From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Sep 11 22:33:25 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2208."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:33:25 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.42) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:26:50 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C758F6A4073 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:28:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28776A406F for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:28:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3836A4072 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:28:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:28:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89265EE92B0; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1347398893; bh=9+sLMrR5abNTQ6HiN8fDFFd8ieba9bGCi5WxAQGW nsI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=GmefPrPzyfhGQJEiZiWQACqNKZOKO 4OXJLACDCTKIZDB0VUgGFALHc86kOdz/KG16ubXv2cRbtO+VF8r6Q7r0lhFM1HHPsnG EomU6Z70VfqlCkJD/1gFz1YIZ0UkFTlez2iAGtQBWbTsxzbKG2KcEVPSINEnfQeQ/wT vTgX92uo= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TlRHzPB5fs+U; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41775EE9077; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1347398892; bh=9+sLMrR5abNTQ6HiN8fDFFd8ieba9bGCi5WxAQGW nsI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=I3Yw7kwb+zNMgjaqav530PqrssUIF I/PpikCKDOokw5KOXn4eM08KiT2jsyb/lG6yuzkriQ7Y2lN+npRMhubfpzCq9XNQKG1 h6ROq/U0xHWaAvUmRbqUQhPYwMz1H5rGLc2YpgwuzsBHT3+3xNbYCUSl+N73NS2Ojdj j9TgbRrg= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C56CEE91E1 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i0wnHFM7SiEc for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta004.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.45]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8546AEE9077 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4320A0C084 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:27:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B848FA0C080 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:27:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:27:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:26:42 +0100 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS updates Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 9 X-archive-position: 1421 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 2 X-MDF-HostID: 2 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, Signs of life in the RISC OS world... There's a new version of SparkFS. This is because I was told the previous version worked on ARM 7 but not on old machines (pre Strong ARM). Find that hard to believe but anyway. It also includes the directory time stamp in zips fix from a few months back. This is the upgrade (for all versions): http://www.davidpilling.com/sfs143.zip There is a corresponding read only version. Change here is that this URL will not change in future, although the versions may. http://www.davidpilling.com/sfsro.zip -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Sep 12 14:28:31 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2231."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:28:31 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.48) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:17:27 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B9144C05E for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:18:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37FB44C066 for ; 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Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:18:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oouspKw3ZSvW for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta009.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.50]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8979CEE677F for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D738407C for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:18:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD15938406F for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:18:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:18:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:17:34 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Pi (was SparkFS updates) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 4 X-archive-position: 1422 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 6 X-MDF-HostID: 6 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, In message , David Pilling writes >Signs of life in the RISC OS world... Whatever do you mean by that. I mean the Raspberry Pi is perhaps the last last chance for RISC OS. Potentially there maybe a lot of new RISC OS users. A 'lot' means really a lot, 100,000's. The idea is that many Pi users will find Linux too large, slow and complex and will use RISC OS instead. I feel that there will be new users, but they may not fit in to the mould of the old users, they won't be interested in desktop tasks, but will want to do things like control robots. The problem is how I connect with these new users, presuming I have some stuff that is of use to them. Or what new software should I write for them. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Sep 13 12:36:06 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2279."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:36:06 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.44) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:22:58 +0100 Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A587E92C069 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F6A92C095 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B07792C069 for ; 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Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:23:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pOt0AJVMYVbl for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta004.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.45]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58379EE98C8 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0CAA0C07F for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:23:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E022FA0C073 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:23:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta004.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:23:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:22:00 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 9 X-archive-position: 1423 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 10 X-MDF-HostID: 10 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, In message , David Pilling writes >Signs of life in the RISC OS world... There's a new version of SparkFS. >This is because I was told the previous version worked on ARM 7 but not >on old machines (pre Strong ARM). Find that hard to believe but anyway. The message I am getting from someone is that the new and recent versions of SparkFS "blow up" on RPCemu, both in Strong ARM and presumably ARM 600 mode. Anyone like to confirm that. I can imagine that if you're using RPCemu you probably stick with the old versions of stuff, the new versions of SparkFS have been for ARM 7 (Beagle, ARMini etc.), but it is interesting if no one using an emulator has tried one of the new versions in the last two years. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Sep 13 15:34:31 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2288."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:34:31 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.47) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:26:40 +0100 Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26913B4070 for ; 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Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:27:30 +0100 Received: from flamsteed.localdomain ([86.16.19.94]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20120913142730.FHFM24459.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@flamsteed.localdomain> for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:27:30 +0100 Received: by flamsteed.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 328DCDFB3D; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:27:28 +0100 (BST) From: Roger Noble To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:27:27 +0100 Message-ID: <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed> Organization: Home User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GaEGOwq9FwezmTggA+b6yC6zDZF2HYaK6RN/tSqdnVA= c=1 sm=0 a=z9WoNamq2B0A:10 a=F_SKZnt1v-sA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=qx0WVkawAAAA:8 a=VnWHfr1MoVZWUIoHVEoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 1424 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rgnoble@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 23 X-MDF-HostID: 23 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Thursday 13 Sep 2012 12:22:00 David Pilling wrote: > The message I am getting from someone is that the new and recent > versions of SparkFS "blow up" on RPCemu, both in Strong ARM and > presumably ARM 600 mode. I can't provoke any failures here with 1.43 - rpcemu 0.8.9 on Linux (SA110 mode). 1.42 also worked fine. Roger -- Roger Noble rgnoble@ntlworld.com roger.g.noble@manchester.ac.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Sep 15 19:34:10 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2296."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:34:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.44) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:07:47 +0100 Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4723F80BA for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEE23F80BE for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469293F80BA for ; 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Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:08:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cTqJc-5oqZff for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6D80EE9436 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B494B4002AA for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:08:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A164001AD for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:08:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:08:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:07:42 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates References: <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed> In-Reply-To: <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 19 X-archive-position: 1425 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 16 X-MDF-HostID: 16 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, In message <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed>, Roger Noble writes >I can't provoke any failures here with 1.43 - rpcemu 0.8.9 on Linux (SA110 >mode). 1.42 also worked fine. Thanks. I'm not up to speed on this, I begin to see that I could do this test myself. Or that there are many versions of RPCemu. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Sep 15 22:34:07 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2395."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:34:07 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.49) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:31:28 +0100 Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8899725C08B for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:33:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645E925C097 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:33:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F78425C08B for ; 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Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:32:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0sc0G7ILEGI0 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52893EE82CF for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17D36F80DA for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54F26F8069 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:32:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <64e7ozCxOPVQFwmO@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:31:29 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates References: <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 3 X-archive-position: 1426 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 5 X-MDF-HostID: 5 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message , David Pilling writes >In message <2593217.DUBekCksba@flamsteed>, Roger Noble > writes >>I can't provoke any failures here with 1.43 - rpcemu 0.8.9 on Linux (SA110 >>mode). 1.42 also worked fine. It seems SparkFS crashes at once when run, *but* this is on RPCemu 0.8.8 and there are known problems with that version. So the above was a great help, the people with the problem have learnt something. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Sep 16 13:00:40 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2408."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:00:40 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:09:39 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC1344C05E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1813F44C066 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E524944C05E for ; 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16 Sep 2012 08:10:53 +0000 GMT From: Steven Pampling To: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:10:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates Message-ID: <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1427 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: steven.pampling@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 6 X-MDF-HostID: 6 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On 13 Sep, David Pilling wrote: > I can imagine that if you're using RPCemu you probably stick with the > old versions of stuff, the new versions of SparkFS have been for ARM 7 > (Beagle, ARMini etc.), but it is interesting if no one using an emulator > has tried one of the new versions in the last two years. Hmmm, maybe. As a long time user of SparkFS and recently the read-only version on the beagle I have had the read only version lock up a few times but since the RPCEmu setup is a new one and not for serious use it has a constantly changing OS install. BUT - the read only version has NEVER locked up/"blown up" on RPCEmu. It has on the beagle, but not since I stopped using a Fat32 formatted boot "disc" (its a memory stick). Various things have problems when the Fat32 naming issues come into play. The ROOL fat32 handling needs work... -- Steve Pampling To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Sep 18 12:35:03 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2508."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:35:03 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.49) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:30:44 +0100 Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB87E9280E3 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:32:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8DD9280DC for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:32:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6382B9280DF for ; 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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V4u67lh2Uy31 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B81AEEC62D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C538C4002AA for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:32:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F59E4002A9 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:32:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:32:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:30:48 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates References: <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 19 X-archive-position: 1428 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 20 X-MDF-HostID: 20 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, In message <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com>, Steven Pampling writes >As a long time user of SparkFS and recently the read-only version on the >beagle Why would you not use the full version on beagle. >BUT - the read only version has NEVER locked up/"blown up" on RPCEmu. >It has on the beagle, but not since I stopped using a Fat32 formatted boot >"disc" (its a memory stick). >Various things have problems when the Fat32 naming issues come into play. >The ROOL fat32 handling needs work... Interesting. That might be taken as saying SparkFS has problems with file names (there no limits on FAT 32?) or that the file system it sits on has problems. I had an email from someone using ARMini last week saying he had added files to an archive, seen nothing going on, assumed things had hung, reset machine, and corrupted the contents of his memory stick. He wanted an hour glass displaying, which has been a common request over the years (quite right), although an hourglass might be mistaken for a hang too. One point that came out of this exchange, as I understand "disc" access on ARMini is slow, it is therefore a good idea to configure programs like SparkFS and DPScan to avoid using their "virtual memory" features, unlike on an old fashioned machine you won't be warned by a lot of noise what is going on, things will just go slowly. What was once a feature is now a hindrance. Anyone want to pay for an upgrade where I remove the virtual memory code... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Sep 18 16:50:10 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <2516."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:50:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:36:13 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39043AC16E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6923AC17D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428953AC17C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:37:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8E03EEB7D2; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1347982675; bh=FITebSSA2/Q87x8akuYEkFzVoXkmz4QEcgNniRUZ 9A0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=P/Hkqi LzHVIibZxzrMAezQrTQvXGN8rsDD0yYeqAn0W03GgFStusb1ufXgyFT67ZdRpukShzR G/vph6rgiCz5tqcbygy0iV1Jqjk0Dk/3GumBy2BlSjLN1HsfNQ/GFmmwJFZ1WI7p3ls oAryoOiwjF7B+bGzchQVgIHZgEdHcgE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fizb7Mkyj3ca; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D623EEAF6A; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1347982675; bh=FITebSSA2/Q87x8akuYEkFzVoXkmz4QEcgNniRUZ 9A0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=P/Hkqi LzHVIibZxzrMAezQrTQvXGN8rsDD0yYeqAn0W03GgFStusb1ufXgyFT67ZdRpukShzR G/vph6rgiCz5tqcbygy0iV1Jqjk0Dk/3GumBy2BlSjLN1HsfNQ/GFmmwJFZ1WI7p3ls oAryoOiwjF7B+bGzchQVgIHZgEdHcgE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3EE4DEEB7C1 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxwVVd3rvzym for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avasout01.plus.net (avasout01.plus.net [84.93.230.227]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6482FEEAF6A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix2. ([80.229.143.2]) by avasout01 with smtp id 0fdf1k00103K0D401fdg50; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:37:40 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IekFqBWa c=1 sm=1 a=arP+Q+LugWBnYfCmE7mF9A==:17 a=lJYL2RXXZ3cA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=vG3p6e-tCTEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=RDLNFsOKLWkWpPjDjDYA:9 a=XO6k2J0pEDGkZNPj:21 a=AVehcP1yM9SSyzcY:21 a=arP+Q+LugWBnYfCmE7mF9A==:117 From: Chris Johnson To: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:37:01 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates Message-ID: <52d133a9a3chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.05a (RISC-OS/5.18) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In article , David Pilling wrote: > One point that came out of this exchange, as I understand "disc" > access on ARMini is slow The problem is seen when a 'filecore' formatted drive is used over USB. It is just as painfully slow on an Iyonix. The problem is, of course, that all disc access on a BB or PandaBoard etc goes over USB, whereas on eg an Iyonix, the main drives are on an IDE i/f. I did see it mentioned somewhere (but I am not sure how authoritative the poster was) that RISC OS SCSIUSB reads/writes single sectors and updates the disc catalogue each time. On my ARMini, I use a Fat32Fs formatted drive as the main drive, which is an order of magnitude faster than the pen drive used as the 'Boot' drive. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 12:30:52 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3384."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:30:52 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:12:05 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A3A3AC0EB for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:13:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9DD3AC0EE for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:13:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3E3AC0EB for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:26:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W01YQoaZGkRB for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92CF5EF306A for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:25:49 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,522,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="661536083" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2012 10:25:39 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F4D103A4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:25:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:25:38 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1430 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? Trying to print an A1 poster to PDF or PS using PDF3. The master frame is 800 x 550 so there should be plenty of margin round an A1 and the paper size is set in the PS3 driver to generic A1, 840 x 594. Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size and will be cropped". Martin -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 14:30:49 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3399."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:30:49 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:26:29 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D66A3AC0F1 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:28:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C0F3AC0FA for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:28:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66EC3AC0F7 for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:42:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLCjLPHIiIHa for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E755BEEEDF4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C65840038C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:41:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26DF400386 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:41:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:41:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:40:04 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 19 X-archive-position: 1431 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU>, Martin Devon writes >Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size >and will be cropped". I wonder what happens if you enable display of 'print margins' from the view menu. Presumably you can carry on and print and see what happens - I think it can happen that this warning is erroneous or irrelevant. Let us know what happens. I also have some sort of idea that odd things happen with PostScript printing, something like Ovation Pro examines the paper name and then resets the paper size - I guess this has been discussed here in the past at length. Other than that, waiting for Martin W to save the day... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 15:30:50 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3402."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:30:50 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.44) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:20:46 +0100 Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D8F3F8122 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:22:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0D63F812A for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:22:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523F93F8122 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:22:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta003.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:22:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0BC9EF1C3A; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:52 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349182192; bh=sbOiCXvRPJqdCsz/YQAPEDiXLEXKDrXLPRUic/e1 S6I=; h=Message-ID:MIME-Version:From:Subject:Date:To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=wSC9IAwZBuXJKpBufLbdBIQevHv0+cXxzRulTZ2SHm53eyT3GQ ghsB17hZO1LrRm7kbKSaBOIAYh3VTELFM4zoNs0p5WQuG3LyvVq41dCrlDdJ0QQa31X FUGYzJR8qGEu4DGXEnqBOQBhYyI18D1yIE5+SZFx1cR/Xpzg+rxMAU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L-4+pG2n4-ZF; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C196EF1906; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349182191; bh=sbOiCXvRPJqdCsz/YQAPEDiXLEXKDrXLPRUic/e1 S6I=; h=Message-ID:MIME-Version:From:Subject:Date:To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Pw+D74CWVRhiunasv6SUn16oWj1QO2z1TOGyDFWMH8WxH4gelO uAQ0+hy/dxlUAVfmgb72pTBE71wThtviCYbG7KbdlO+f5R4f7iHXkE5a3VnrgKv3J8N qhhC+u2UTzFVm1Vexlcj+jAHiBdHCU5WDPD+kbTVvAX40HBNlUX8Sw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22C60EF1AB3 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHriix48Izuv for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (sidious.london.02.net [82.132.130.152]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5F30EF1906 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Inbox (10.139.169.56) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as abacusline@o2.co.uk) id 502546FE09B09BFF for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: <502546FE09B09BFF@> (added by postmaster@mail.o2.co.uk) Content-Class: From: Gerald Chat Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:51:27 +0100 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-archive-position: 1432 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gerald.chat@abacusline.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 16 X-MDF-HostID: 16 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 > From: Martin Devon > Sent: 02 October 2012 10:25 > Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? Portrait or Landscape mix up? 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.clearmail.com.au (smtp.clearmail.com.au [203.168.34.57]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BCC23EF0CF7 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.clearmail.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B78645A1B for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:04:36 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kwanzaabot.day3.com.au Received: from smtp.clearmail.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kwanzaabot.day3.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4p68vyQjnafP for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:04:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from armini.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au (unknown [118.67.52.182]) by smtp.clearmail.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5345A17 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:04:32 +1000 (EST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF To: From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:58:01 +0000 Message-ID: <16c186d852.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.06 (MsgServe/6.04) (RISC-OS/5.18) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 1433 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 23 X-MDF-HostID: 23 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> Martin Devon wrote: > Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? > Trying to print an A1 poster to PDF or PS using PDF3. The master frame is > 800 x 550 so there should be plenty of margin round an A1 and the paper > size is set in the PS3 driver to generic A1, 840 x 594. > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size > and will be cropped". Have you checked the orientation of the 'paper' and the item going to print? When I get this message it is generally because one is portrait while the other is landscape. > Martin -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 16:00:52 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3405."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:00:52 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.42) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:47:57 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890EF8740EB for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:49:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E748740EC for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:13:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xSf1mk0S6+fj for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta004.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.45]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DC604EEF72C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC55AC4188 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:13:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56132AC4187 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:13:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:13:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:12:04 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 17 X-archive-position: 1434 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 14 X-MDF-HostID: 14 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Bounced message from Jeremy Brayshaw... " Just a thought, but does it still do that if you click on the 'print = sideways' button? I've had this before where one thing is expecting a = landscape orientation, and the other is giving portrait layout! Neither = are clever enough to notice it will fit if turned on its side! Jeremy. " -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 16:30:53 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3408."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:30:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.44) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:20:36 +0100 Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAC692C081 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A987C92C079 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8358792C077 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:21:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A97AAEF1FAE; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WwtTw6PS19ou; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8D3C8EF1626; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349185482; bh=SwJIoc987Fxlc7uv6AzrS547wqul7G5ToUDSsp7m Cjw=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=c6/mMXdZYpiaajRokL/aYtA2udR43lafIGsoPgkY5T+Bl5T8h3 XHnMPRt5LSJ9vvvk95zD9xeEG9gnKoCJ5/uxdTdIE6mpGmp9h7RqV4EoTfzySrGTKaK Kt67ArYNsqd4VHUaIbQCeS7DXgT1YDO/pFddDHNXoYO6SXMGNSt8Mk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4E546EF1D8A for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P5OzoZJ3zo50 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aa.net.uk (b.painless.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4D55FEF1626 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by b.painless.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ2le-00085C-94 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:44:10 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF To: From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.18) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 1435 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 10 X-MDF-HostID: 10 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> Martin Devon wrote: Is this using the RISC OS version of OPro? I'm assuming it is. > Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? I have no problem printing to A1 using the PS3 driver. > Trying to print an A1 poster to PDF or PS using PDF3. The master frame is > 800 x 550 so there should be plenty of margin round an A1 and the paper > size is set in the PS3 driver to generic A1, 840 x 594. Is it the master frame or the _page size_ that is set to 800 x 550. If your page size is set bigger than the paper size then you'll get the warning. 800 x 550 : is this width by height? Are you print settings set to the correct orientation? i.e. should you be printing landscape by selecting 'Sideways'? I'd check other print settings (click Print setup to open the full print dialogue box) check that Bleed or Printers marks are not selected. Printers marks will require extra space around the page size to print the crops etc, the paper size in !Printers will need to accommodate them. I'm not sure if bleed will actually trigger the waring, I think it will just print an area larger than the page size. > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size > and will be cropped". A good check before printing is look at the X and Y figures if the Centre option is selected, as it will indicate if the page won't fit on the paper with a negative number. > Martin Hope that helps, Gavin. 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02 Oct 2012 07:41:11 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <284E67FF98A04C428E548BF7DB13CA42@JOHN> From: J LEEMING To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:41:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-archive-position: 1436 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: jleeming231@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 20 X-MDF-HostID: 20 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 The master frame may be small enough, but what about the page size of your document? John L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Devon" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: [softwarelist] Print to A1 PDF > Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? > > Trying to print an A1 poster to PDF or PS using PDF3. The master frame is > 800 x 550 so there should be plenty of margin round an A1 and the paper > size is set in the PS3 driver to generic A1, 840 x 594. > > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size > and will be cropped". > > Martin > -- > Martin R Devon MSc > Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK > RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5303 - Release Date: 10/01/12 > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 18:00:55 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3418."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:00:55 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:16:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:16:53 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1437 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:40:04 +0100 David Pilling wrote: > In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU>, Martin Devon > writes > >Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper size > >and will be cropped". > > I wonder what happens if you enable display of 'print margins' from the > view menu. > > Presumably you can carry on and print and see what happens - I think it > can happen that this warning is erroneous or irrelevant. > > Let us know what happens. > > I also have some sort of idea that odd things happen with PostScript > printing, something like Ovation Pro examines the paper name and then > resets the paper size - I guess this has been discussed here in the past > at length. > > Other than that, waiting for Martin W to save the day... "View > printer margins" shows a central A4 area, normal or sideways according to setting. Proceeding to print produces only that central A4. -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 18:00:55 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3419."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:00:55 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.47) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:54:41 +0100 Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1024D3B4069 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:56:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07983B4070 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:56:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEEF3B4069 for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L2hEySik-385 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93FD7EF2EDD for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:20:00 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,524,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="661743556" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2012 16:19:46 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11695103A4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:19:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:19:45 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121002161945.3d82ad6a@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1438 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 23 X-MDF-HostID: 23 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:12:04 +0100 David Pilling wrote: > > Bounced message from Jeremy Brayshaw... > > " > Just a thought, but does it still do that if you click on the 'print = > sideways' button? I've had this before where one thing is expecting a = > landscape orientation, and the other is giving portrait layout! Neither > = are clever enough to notice it will fit if turned on its side! (also replying to Gerald) There are choices of sideways or not in OPro and Portrait or Landscape in the driver config. All 4 possible arrangements produce the same error message. (and print an A4 or part A4) -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 18:45:51 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3421."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:45:51 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:18:24 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD323AC0F1 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:19:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7693AC0F7 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:19:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B541F3AC0F1 for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:50:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g-lpMszQnV0W for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8521EF2CFE for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:49:45 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,524,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="661761348" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2012 16:49:40 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41772103A4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:49:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:49:40 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121002164940.00b951b1@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1439 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:44:05 +0100 Gavin Crawford wrote: > In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> > Martin Devon wrote: > > Is this using the RISC OS version of OPro? I'm assuming it is. > > > Am I missing something, or is there a problem? Can anyone help, please? > > I have no problem printing to A1 using the PS3 driver. > > > Trying to print an A1 poster to PDF or PS using PDF3. The master frame > > is 800 x 550 so there should be plenty of margin round an A1 and the > > paper size is set in the PS3 driver to generic A1, 840 x 594. > > Is it the master frame or the _page size_ that is set to 800 x 550. If > your page size is set bigger than the paper size then you'll get the > warning. > > 800 x 550 : is this width by height? Are you print settings set to the > correct orientation? i.e. should you be printing landscape by > selecting 'Sideways'? > > I'd check other print settings (click Print setup to open the full > print dialogue box) check that Bleed or Printers marks are not > selected. Printers marks will require extra space around the page size > to print the crops etc, the paper size in !Printers will need to > accommodate them. I'm not sure if bleed will actually trigger the > waring, I think it will just print an area larger than the page size. > > > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper > > size and will be cropped". > > A good check before printing is look at the X and Y figures if the > Centre option is selected, as it will indicate if the page won't fit > on the paper with a negative number. > > > Martin > > Hope that helps, > Gavin. Thanks Gav, printers marks is the answer. 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charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 22 X-archive-position: 1440 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 10 X-MDF-HostID: 10 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, In message <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU>, Martin Devon writes >"View > printer margins" shows a central A4 area, normal or sideways >according to setting. Proceeding to print produces only that central A4. So something is telling Ovation Pro that the printer printable area is A4. OP reads the printable area from RISC OS. Only other possibility is that you have things set to print at above 100%. Have you any other programs that show print margins... I can't recall if Draw does. DPScan does. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Oct 2 23:00:58 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3445."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:00:58 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.42) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:54:17 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9416A4067 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:55:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E3E6A4072 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:55:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824BF6A4067 for ; 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:50:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2sSlcGQc6DFc for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rex.genesysnet.co.uk (rex.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.234]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93227EF1114 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [49.225.56.67] (67.56.225.49.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz [49.225.56.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by rex.genesysnet.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q92KmbAn002678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:48:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:48:36 +1300 From: Alan To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org, Alan User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.50 (Windows-Vista) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 1441 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 2 X-MDF-HostID: 2 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 You wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:40:04 +0100 David Pilling > wrote: > > > In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU>, Martin Devon > > writes > > > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper > > > size and will be cropped". > > > > I wonder what happens if you enable display of 'print margins' from the > > view menu. > > > > Presumably you can carry on and print and see what happens - I think it > > can happen that this warning is erroneous or irrelevant. > > > > Let us know what happens. > > > > I also have some sort of idea that odd things happen with PostScript > > printing, something like Ovation Pro examines the paper name and then > > resets the paper size - I guess this has been discussed here in the past > > at length. > > > > Other than that, waiting for Martin W to save the day... > > "View > printer margins" shows a central A4 area, normal or sideways > according to setting. Proceeding to print produces only that central A4. I have fund problems printing from OPro to a custom paper size whose name did not start with "A4", e.g. "C5_envelope". I suspect this is related to David's earlier comment about OPro examining the paper name to set the margins. Does your paper size name start A1? 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 390C3EEF1E0 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:46:15 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,524,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="665918284" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2012 22:45:24 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0067B103A4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:45:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:45:23 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121002224523.76730930@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1442 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 13 X-MDF-HostID: 13 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:16:27 +0100 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU>, Martin Devon > writes > >"View > printer margins" shows a central A4 area, normal or sideways > >according to setting. Proceeding to print produces only that central A4. > > So something is telling Ovation Pro that the printer printable area is > A4. OP reads the printable area from RISC OS. > > Only other possibility is that you have things set to print at above > 100%. > > Have you any other programs that show print margins... I can't recall if > Draw does. DPScan does. It seems there were two separate parts to this, one of which is solved. Gavin's suggestion of unsetting printer marks removed the error and allowed correct printing to PDF (on a RiscPC). But because this is so slow on the RiscPC, I was initially using RPCEmu on a fast Linux box. Investigating with my PanelEditor suggests that OS_ReadVarVal is not working correctly in RPCEmu, which may explain the incorrect reading of printable area. Anyway, problem solved for now, and thanks for all the advice. Martin > > -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 3 12:28:59 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3457."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:28:59 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.44) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 04:02:50 +0100 Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5A92C079 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 04:04:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBDD92C081 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 04:04:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta003.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B631E92C079 for ; 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i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1443 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 10 X-MDF-HostID: 10 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:48:36 +1300 Alan wrote: > You wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:40:04 +0100 David Pilling > > wrote: > > > > > In message <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU>, Martin Devon > > > writes > > > > Every time, I am getting the message "image is larger than the paper > > > > size and will be cropped". > > > > > > I wonder what happens if you enable display of 'print margins' from > > > the view menu. > > > > > > Presumably you can carry on and print and see what happens - I think > > > it can happen that this warning is erroneous or irrelevant. > > > > > > Let us know what happens. > > > > > > I also have some sort of idea that odd things happen with PostScript > > > printing, something like Ovation Pro examines the paper name and then > > > resets the paper size - I guess this has been discussed here in the > > > past at length. > > > > > > Other than that, waiting for Martin W to save the day... > > > > "View > printer margins" shows a central A4 area, normal or sideways > > according to setting. Proceeding to print produces only that central A4. > > I have fund problems printing from OPro to a custom paper size whose name > did not start with "A4", e.g. "C5_envelope". I suspect this is related to > David's earlier comment about OPro examining the paper name to set the > margins. Does your paper size name start A1? Yes, in fact it does, but please see my previous post about reading OS variables. -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 3 12:29:05 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3463."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:29:05 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.43) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:33:49 +0100 Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15965F4069 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:35:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBE45F406C for ; 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02 Oct 2012 23:47:31 -0700 PDT From: Steven Pampling To: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 07:47:19 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS updates Message-ID: <52d8bcb4a1steven.pampling@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: References: <52d003108bsteven.pampling@btinternet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1444 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: steven.pampling@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 11 X-MDF-HostID: 11 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On 18 Sep, David Pilling wrote: > >Various things have problems when the Fat32 naming issues come into > >play. The ROOL fat32 handling needs work... > Interesting. That might be taken as saying SparkFS has problems with > file names (there no limits on FAT 32?) or that the file system it sits > on has problems. The problem is that Fat32 naming is a bodge. However, I have managed to produce the same error accessing a Zip file on an access share from a Risc PC being accessed from a beagle. So no Fat32 involvement. If I get time I will repeat the situation a few times and try and provoke the error in a reproducible fashion. -- Steve Pampling To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 3 22:13:46 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3559."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:13:46 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.49) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:07:10 +0100 Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85A25C08B for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:08:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994425C092 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:08:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CF025C08B for ; 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Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:19:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8AlsDFMipJjM for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7555EEF45AB for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD616F82A8 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:17:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635E66F82A5 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:17:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:17:29 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:16:30 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> <20121002233611.5f32838a@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121002233611.5f32838a@MDXU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 3 X-archive-position: 1445 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 5 X-MDF-HostID: 5 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, Bounced message from Martin W... ================================================= I cannot really imagine any problems with reading system variables on RPCEmu. What kind of problems did you find? Such a problem would not normally affect printing, but it could actually cause some problems with the PostScript driver, since the !Printers front-end uses system variables to communicate with the driver module. Regards, Martin ================================================= -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 3 22:58:47 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3564."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:58:47 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.42) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:54:57 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADBD6A4071 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:56:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770336A4073 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:56:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518A56A4071 for ; 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Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:38:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dbiVtZvaXmMB for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9AC4EF2222 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:38:19 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,529,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="666374707" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2012 22:38:13 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8275103A4 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:38:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:38:12 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121003223812.35ff1b77@MDXU> In-Reply-To: References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> <20121002233611.5f32838a@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1446 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 2 X-MDF-HostID: 2 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:16:30 +0100 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > Bounced message from Martin W... > > ================================================= > > I cannot really imagine any problems with reading system variables on > RPCEmu. What kind of problems did you find? Such a problem would not > normally affect printing, but it could actually cause some problems with > the PostScript driver, since the !Printers front-end uses system > variables to communicate with the driver module. > > Regards, > Martin > > ================================================= So far as I can make out OS_ReadVarVal is not working at all on RPCEmu. Admittedly my program uses the XOS_ReadVarVal form. All values returned are empty. -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Oct 4 13:02:53 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3569."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:02:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.42) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:01:55 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82841874112 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F89987411E for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A37E8740FF for ; 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Thu, 4 Oct 2012 01:56:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tnMBvRIq3uK5 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 01:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (mercury.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D59DEF45F3 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 01:56:13 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,532,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="910216105" Received: from unknown (HELO via.heleigh.local) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2012 06:56:04 +0100 Received: from MDXU (unknown [192.168.0.30]) by via.heleigh.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59370103A4 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:56:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:56:04 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to A1 PDF Message-ID: <20121004065604.3eb31a6d@MDXU> In-Reply-To: <20121003223812.35ff1b77@MDXU> References: <20121002102538.69a05498@MDXU> <20121002161653.5983027c@MDXU> <20121002233611.5f32838a@MDXU> <20121003223812.35ff1b77@MDXU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1447 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 14 X-MDF-HostID: 14 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:38:12 +0100 Martin Devon wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:16:30 +0100 > David Pilling wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Bounced message from Martin W... > > > > ================================================= > > > > I cannot really imagine any problems with reading system variables on > > RPCEmu. What kind of problems did you find? Such a problem would not > > normally affect printing, but it could actually cause some problems > > with the PostScript driver, since the !Printers front-end uses system > > variables to communicate with the driver module. > > > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > ================================================= > > So far as I can make out OS_ReadVarVal is not working at all on RPCEmu. > Admittedly my program uses the XOS_ReadVarVal form. > All values returned are empty. > Sorry to have to follow up my own post, and now outrageously off-topic, but the above needs correction. OS_ReadVarVal is working on RPCEmu. It appears the empty value arises because Inet$HostName is set but empty - it's not using the name supplied in the network configuration. -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Oct 6 19:19:57 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3674."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:19:57 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.42) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:24:50 +0100 Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4121874100 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:26:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40488740FF for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:26:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DA1874100 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:26:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta001.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:26:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 205D7EFAC9F; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349457984; bh=YZey3KvlMzjpFnBHY6gv2Vcr+/7MusKwq8YHrg2o c50=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=tXyfch8x77ior1255b6+fDXIBKeKo JSPRp9korG9XAudnSZVMkGOkJX68JNRI0YB5XGqs0zkmuOaYEZTn0V0SmeJ+uST8mTU h1wOSXh+MrhDvgcbxvCOGI3rtuqbC9O2LafctjU5UJbdD9gucwmlfYfO7GN8sU8J2y7 GnwNItik= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5+w9fll7Sz3; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5461EFAC70; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349457983; bh=YZey3KvlMzjpFnBHY6gv2Vcr+/7MusKwq8YHrg2o c50=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Sk08AgP4/pVbcO+BONn8FKgHkzhZB wOd2UTFbDAH4+8DSViC937DitO6Bv5IlX6eqYPZQha7FakEFEPMIEN6OD1TbB+0+06A JGg1oIexzXpvus1D0fM9a51GLKE0Lzkm8wLgxCunARJ5BaPPRtvHZprsDkbS/6cHB+w u/E9nskw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 940BBEFAC94 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xt7z1Q8S3SXh for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6442EFAC70 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([81.168.88.220]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q95HQ5l5020305 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:26:06 +0100 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OvPro Fonts Message-ID: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1448 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 14 X-MDF-HostID: 14 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 I need some illumination (Yes I know, stop using CF lightbulbs) ;-) But seriously... I have six fonts associated with OvPro. Bookmark Chaucer Curator DPDings Paladin SwissB Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still giving me trouble with EasyFont Pro. So the questions go like this... Why do the OvFonts directories contain other non font files? What the .... is AFM-Extract? Why is there a Postscript type 1 file in there? And why are the fonts files of the ancient and deprecated form with a "0" Zero suffix? Thanks, probably... 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Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:04:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id siSnziPATxOK for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B788EFC5BD for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.103] (p57B125AF.dip.t-dialin.net [87.177.37.175]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MaoHu-1SzoWt2N8E-00KMPk; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:03:57 +0200 Message-ID: <506F4B3E.30408@mw-software.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:03:58 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:l7rrA9RVbKPpl+jNCl2qni/TjpvzMueYgZ3TJlxC4JF Ckk7OiMZtpsXZ3qjHGrHAkr5zepe/OBqAnIZHzd1/fAyIivRlG qo7v/L0QxOSY/eY31fY7R4i/HbpsvVCmF1NUuRCvvg0Dw+9/TH La4A2m9WvD9HE8/gX+vDDkvnBs74+Xl4oRVZgn1PZMJHmkzPrO AYM833pyYvi5fCRUL8yuErFcwYHMPvnzJ93np3w35Dn8HyKFY5 Xx49oViA25UKOx5K8dvSxdZAUReodMi3V7mKQaGn6SRyZ4voCe yT1+VNEPMbIptxDnq2lmuNFT3WHZEAYkMVQ99zQmQgY6q/2SVp oaU30muLErIDCRnqULXQ= X-archive-position: 1449 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 2 X-MDF-HostID: 2 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Am 05.10.2012 19:25, schrieb Dave Symes: > Why is there a Postscript type 1 file in there? Because that makes it a much higher quality font for PostScript 2 printing. All good fonts should have one. > And why are the fonts files of the ancient and deprecated form with a "0" > Zero suffix? The font format with the "0" suffix is neither ancient nor deprecated. It is the current format for RO4/6 "language" fonts. Language fonts *without* a numeric suffix and without an encoding file are deprecated. If you see a font directory with just "IntMetrics" and "Outlines", then that is a deprecated RISC OS 2 font. 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Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.6]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 863FCEFDB3D for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsps-ews26.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.192]) by cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:21:12 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews26.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:21:12 +0200 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([213.10.58.27]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:21:12 +0200 From: Paul Sprangers To: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:21:10 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts Message-ID: <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.18) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2012 13:21:12.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[74754660:01CDA3C5] X-RcptDomain: freelists.org X-archive-position: 1450 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 14 X-MDF-HostID: 14 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still giving me > trouble with EasyFont Pro. Probably, this is not going to help you very much, but most of my fonts, many of which are EFF products, were giving trouble with EasyFontPro. In fact, the error messages and freezings were so numerous, that I eventually decided to delete EasyFontPro from my harddisc. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- http://www.riscos.sprie.nl To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Oct 6 19:20:35 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3710."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:20:35 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:08:09 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5726844C069 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:09:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330BA44C06B for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:09:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D58C44C069 for ; 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d="scan'208";a="657682397" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 88-110-15-250.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO Iyonix.home) ([88.110.15.250]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Oct 2012 15:09:32 +0100 From: Richard Ashbery To: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:07:32 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts Message-ID: <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1451 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@gotadsl.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 6 X-MDF-HostID: 6 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers wrote: > In article <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > wrote: > > Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still > > giving me trouble with EasyFont Pro. > Probably, this is not going to help you very much, but most of my > fonts, many of which are EFF products, were giving trouble with > EasyFontPro. In fact, the error messages and freezings were so > numerous, that I eventually decided to delete EasyFontPro from my > harddisc. Not good to here - I was thinking of investing in EFP but all my Fonts are EFF - I don't suppose there are any alternatives? 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Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA508EFDB39 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from armini.o2.co.uk (94.195.95.153) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as mytardis@o2.co.uk) id 4EEB66402FC3EA47 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:34:38 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts To: From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.06 (MsgServe/6.04S) (RISC-OS/5.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 1452 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@noonehere.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 15 X-MDF-HostID: 15 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> Richard Ashbery wrote: > In article <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers > wrote: >> In article <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes >> wrote: >>> Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still >>> giving me trouble with EasyFont Pro. >> Probably, this is not going to help you very much, but most of my >> fonts, many of which are EFF products, were giving trouble with >> EasyFontPro. In fact, the error messages and freezings were so >> numerous, that I eventually decided to delete EasyFontPro from my >> harddisc. > Not good to here - I was thinking of investing in EFP but all my Fonts > are EFF - I don't suppose there are any alternatives? Don't assume because one or two prople have had an issue its still an issue, no indication of which version of EFP is in use. I used it on my RiscPC, nut have not got round to getting the update for the Armini compatible version yet. The main trick to remember with EFP is not to use option to display the fonts menu in the various font styles. You have less issues if you just use the list of font names instead. I have also have EFF fonts and don't have issues. and especially if you don't have the full program running on the desktop (little need to do so most of the time). To be honest the alternative is to just use the normal Fonts system. -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Oct 6 19:20:36 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3714."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:20:36 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.48) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:58:05 +0100 Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956E3AC18C for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1CB3AC181 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DF03AC17E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta007.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:59:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B6D8EFDB65; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:45 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349539185; bh=FBtlJl7IKI5tMJ7N3SuTF0cLHc00hp0t669uwZxA fnY=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=eWEKXn StBwGVSq065K0C69jBhp+51i0BvUVoKZNI8szcQibXaLyQ/jgT11s1kjNAnlosOr092 YPcHInSyTrPG6JrB5zhAiK40c1EAtkUFIzIMPukOxN+4mXrlGdP30H1gYPFcpGdrPAx gAJtT2Ce5/xnunp7zHx0qs8rxcv34Mg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UUrgxLdDkOAK; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 130B3EF39A4; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:32 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349539184; bh=FBtlJl7IKI5tMJ7N3SuTF0cLHc00hp0t669uwZxA fnY=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=LN3QDO 6ijcHLO7OOcdDjngiqpaZXYA8gacbMyhnDa0VMMz13hSwDuVXM1/DTJFgn1hpVdnwu8 CdCt09LvS49f80unjDi7djTIlgz3Wm7S1qAY168EFAaCV7npBXVu4auie7tT1ks+MRI FAmd+UbnCzkixU8zrjOkm0G857/3NbY= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6F2DEF5626 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0kc5G2qz0wVW for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63184EF39A4 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMD2. ([109.176.234.110]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q96FxFqk023175 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:59:16 +0100 From: M Harding To: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:00:14 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts Message-ID: <52da7ad5b0riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1453 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 21 X-MDF-HostID: 21 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In article , Chris Hughes wrote: > In message <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> > Richard Ashbery wrote: > > In article <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers > > wrote: > >> In article <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > >> wrote: > >>> Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still > >>> giving me trouble with EasyFont Pro. > >> Probably, this is not going to help you very much, but most of my > >> fonts, many of which are EFF products, were giving trouble with > >> EasyFontPro. In fact, the error messages and freezings were so > >> numerous, that I eventually decided to delete EasyFontPro from my > >> harddisc. > > Not good to here - I was thinking of investing in EFP but all my > > Fonts are EFF - I don't suppose there are any alternatives? > Don't assume because one or two prople have had an issue its still > an issue, no indication of which version of EFP is in use. [ . . . ] > To be honest the alternative is to just use the normal Fonts system. A further option is LOOKsystems' "Font Directory Professional" which I use for all my DTP work, in conjunction with EFF fonts on the SA-VRPC & Kinetic, and using the equivalent EFF fonts for OvProWindows. FontDirPro's a very comprehensive system with a well-written manual. I can't recall many RISC OS problems with it - just the initial learning curve of how to operate it, and then a lot of thought about setting it up - i.e. how I should split up my selection of fonts into categories for ease of use. It does mean that I can keep any quirky-but-useful fonts handy in reserve but separate from my standard EFF ones. I'd be lost without it. I think the author, ?Adrian Look, has long left the RISC-OS scene, because my version is dated 2003. But I see that it's licensed to a certain Chris Evans (CJE, presumably) . . Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Oct 6 19:20:37 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3717."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:20:37 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.43) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:20:14 +0100 Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF3D5F4060 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:21:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2CE5F4069 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:21:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86B95F4060 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:21:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:21:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5A001EFCA44; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349544113; bh=htNS31bI+BMlj87WHBIz8670hgmy7MZlx6lJYicD 9+M=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=dH8LY0 4lK5kvZO/YR/y6IcZPmWxJ+LGFsFYEYv462y+P2IieZKuqshxy78EE5xkCsLUwD7lmy klhPxuhogIUlRGKF2LC7vP8Ef1929dU+1iT1yFNb5VR3EO87EKgNn/RG5+INMGQ875D 4ZUQQOnb07TLqcFagWf2sJdase2kAck= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JkgL7fYI3a9V; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 06DE8EFCA18; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349544112; bh=htNS31bI+BMlj87WHBIz8670hgmy7MZlx6lJYicD 9+M=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Oe1NDn Ez8SqCvtBM25yrkponpg1Dn4cnRDhbLhFl5+YPmUWUg5M2laUX+vaggmeeuESnOPwxT pM3RQ3GkwO/qZb3uPIGlWw77a5RDynp7BNufOia6vF1jHLVZq0L4bEbybiHp3V36i1W uJNZkAnK3YLlMxW3yg/UNtakWW7OmRg= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 06 Oct 2012 13:21:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB241EFCA3F for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RM21Na-RDUoJ for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57F3DEFCA18 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMD2. ([109.176.234.110]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q96HLZcj025342 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:21:36 +0100 From: M Harding To: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:22:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro Fonts Message-ID: <52da825f52riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <52da7ad5b0riscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk> <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl> <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> <52da7ad5b0riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1454 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 11 X-MDF-HostID: 11 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On 06 Oct, riscos@mdharding.org.uk wrote: > In article , > Chris Hughes wrote: > > In message <52da708438riscos@gotadsl.co.uk> > > Richard Ashbery wrote: > > > In article <52da6c45b5Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers > > > wrote: > > >> In article <52d9fed194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > >> wrote: > > >>> Apart from DPDings all the other Ov fonts have and are still > > >>> giving me trouble with EasyFont Pro. > > >> Probably, this is not going to help you very much, but most of > > >> my fonts, many of which are EFF products, were giving trouble > > >> with EasyFontPro. In fact, the error messages and freezings > > >> were so numerous, that I eventually decided to delete > > >> EasyFontPro from my harddisc. > > > Not good to here - I was thinking of investing in EFP but all > > > my Fonts are EFF - I don't suppose there are any alternatives? > > Don't assume because one or two prople have had an issue its > > still an issue, no indication of which version of EFP is in use. > [ . . . ] > > To be honest the alternative is to just use the normal Fonts > > system. > A further option is LOOKsystems' "Font Directory Professional" > which I use for all my DTP work, in conjunction with EFF fonts on > the SA-VRPC & Kinetic, and using the equivalent EFF fonts for > OvProWindows. An afterthought. FontDirPro doesn't work with VRPC's native filing system. But the simple solution is to create an IDEdisc and put the program & fonts in that, where it works happily. The default IDEdisc size is far from adequate: mine is set to 189 MBytes but actually I notice only 50 MBytes are used. It's documented in "VRPC In Use", p.33. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2lPTtWPRxSsmvqRT6GMacqnDixUw== Content-Language: en-gb X-archive-position: 1455 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: david@pandda.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 23 X-MDF-HostID: 23 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi all, Could some kind soul remind me how to set up print to file, please? I rather carelessly deleted it when I changed printers recently! 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Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:33:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ClzSZvyWtQWf for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.10]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6340EFEC4E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsps-ews24.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.190]) by cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:33:31 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews24.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:33:30 +0200 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([213.10.58.27]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:33:30 +0200 From: Paul Sprangers To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:33:28 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to file Message-ID: <52db6496ebPaul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <000101cda53e$35609590$a021c0b0$@co.uk> References: <000101cda53e$35609590$a021c0b0$@co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.18) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2012 10:33:30.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C602FF0:01CDA540] X-RcptDomain: freelists.org X-archive-position: 1456 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 13 X-MDF-HostID: 13 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <000101cda53e$35609590$a021c0b0$@co.uk>, David Crofts wrote: > Could some kind soul remind me how to set up print to file, please? - Load the printer driver. - Click on the active printer with Adjust (right mouse button), whilst holding down Shift. The Connections window pops up. - Find the menu icon at the bottom of the window, after the option File and click on it. - Drag the icon to the desired location. - Click on Set - Click on OK. Do not click on Save Choices in the icon bar menu, unless you want to print to a file by default. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- http://www.riscos.sprie.nl To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Oct 8 12:29:58 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <3814."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:29:58 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.43) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:18:52 +0100 Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227075F406D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:20:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17905F4072 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:20:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta002.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0E65F406D for ; 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Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:20:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TgWeSq18pkAg for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta004.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.45]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 496FBEFDC00 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21635AC41B7 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:20:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F8CAC41B1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:20:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:20:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:19:16 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Print to file References: <000101cda53e$35609590$a021c0b0$@co.uk> <52db6496ebPaul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <52db6496ebPaul@sprie.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 17 X-archive-position: 1457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 11 X-MDF-HostID: 11 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <52db6496ebPaul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers writes >Do not click on Save Choices in the icon bar menu, unless you want to print >to a file by default. I always have a printer driver installed which is permanently configured to print to file (same on Windows and RISC OS). For Windows... "Printing to file There are two obvious ways, select 'Print to file' in the application you're printing from or configure a printer driver with a port of 'FILE'. Both of these will pop up a window asking you where the file should be printed. However it is also possible to create a new port and give it a filename, then configure a driver with this port. Using this approach printing always takes place to the same file." -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 10 15:27:18 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <4146."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:27:18 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.169.49) by HVUT02.thus.corp (192.168.70.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:12:00 +0100 Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D89928182 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:13:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C1A928184 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:13:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEB8928182 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:13:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta008.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:13:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62102F0055D; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349878415; bh=Oy1T/djeZVphebtRpDKz9dRLcGsC07/oI6w1S6Yn xeo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=sdLUfy+vT79YxzG+uLyt3UJFZto/U cjS9MYXFn2wQLMm4jfRtQkVCh0Br3vhFIZZb+6XLIDeVlZ1tUpq2Mkv0hYtFGSedg2q ybV6PbOYDacUAcFBPZduT+RglwDc5BVXzHPO7HmoNUGL5h6HKxAWYv0mMXdzCnqynlp sE2gH1ck= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uOVCvSxlJ1Hx; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 43ED1F0053F; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1349878414; bh=Oy1T/djeZVphebtRpDKz9dRLcGsC07/oI6w1S6Yn xeo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=S88litEU/6rPT6d7fEIXl1KISbie2 P2AwJdgmoGdL0ds0P70DTAPMuhJk7KHQaUZV+qQoJjiwLEBk6QdEeVp6wNB5ZomSpEt w4x7YfRXOlOpctRuN1efZhwm2VMG/sdV2kU+tAzyaSt6J3SMNmx2qmKqfWfQUORBEgC xbrp2rUw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 185DDF00469 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5EipFKE4unXF for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24A88F0053F for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [87.112.23.198] (helo=lab.4QD) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TLx2D-0000ge-M4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:13:18 +0100 From: "Richard Torrens (lists)" To: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:03:52 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Rotsted pamphlet printing Message-ID: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="52dc7f7513G+3yu9wF6MQRp5smdrAZCQ" X-archive-position: 1458 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 20 X-MDF-HostID: 20 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT02.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 --52dc7f7513G+3yu9wF6MQRp5smdrAZCQ Content-Type: text/plain I use pamphlet printing a lot. But I would like to do a rotated pamphlet with the fold horizontal, as the attached draw file and cannot work out how to. Is it possible? -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! --52dc7f7513G+3yu9wF6MQRp5smdrAZCQ Content-Type: application/vnd.riscos.drawfile; name="DrawFile" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 RHJhd8kAAAAAAAAAT3BlblZlY3RvciAglNQAAKWIBQAE8AEAQisHAAAAAAAcAAAAAVRyaW5pdHku TWVkaXVtAAAAAAAGAAAA1AAAAJTUAAAwiQUABPABAEIrBwAgICAgICAgICAgICACAAAAbAAAAJTU AAAwiQUABPABAEIrBwD/////AAAAAAAAAABAACAgAgAAAJTUAABCKwcACAAAAATwAQBCKwcACAAA AATwAQAwiQUACAAAAJTUAAAwiQUACAAAAJTUAABCKwcABQAAAAAAAAACAAAARAAAAJTUAAA5WgYA BPABADlaBgD/////AAAAAAAAAABAACAgAgAAAJTUAAA5WgYACAAAAATwAQA5WgYAAAAAAAEAAAA8 AAAAieoAAE/5BgDgNAEAhhEHAAAAAAAA////AQAAAAAjAAAAIwAA1ukAAKj5BgBsaW5lIDEAdQEA AAA4AAAAN+wAAE+yBgBG8AAAXbYGAAAAAAAA////AQAAAAAjAAAAIwAA1ukAAMyyBgAuAAAAAQAA ADgAAAA37AAA4Y4GAEbwAADvkgYAAAAAAAD///8BAAAAACMAAAAjAADW6QAAXo8GAC4AAAABAAAA OAAAADfsAABzawYARvAAAIFvBgAAAAAAAP///wEAAAAAIwAAACMAANbpAADwawYALgAAAAEAAAA8 AAAAieoAALskBgA8OAEA8jwGAAAAAAAA////AQAAAAAjAAAAIwAA1ukAABQlBgBsaW5lIG4AAAEA AAA4AAAAIeUAABP6BQAw6QAAIf4FAAAAAAAA////AQAAAAAjAAAAIwAAwOIAAJD6BQAuAAYAAQAA ADgAAAAh5QAApdYFADDpAACz2gUAAAAAAAD///8BAAAAACMAAAAjAADA4gAAItcFAC4AAAABAAAA OAAAACHlAAA3swUAMOkAAEW3BQAAAAAAAP///wEAAAAAIwAAACMAAMDiAAC0swUALgAAAAEAAAA4 AAAArbcBADldBgCe1gEAlHwGAAAAAAAA////AQAAAAAjAAAAIwAAVLcBANpkBgBwMQAAAQAAADgA AACttwEApYgFAHzZAQDupwUAAAAAAAD///8BAAAAACMAAAAjAABUtwEARpAFAHAyAAA= --52dc7f7513G+3yu9wF6MQRp5smdrAZCQ-- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Oct 10 17:12:23 2012 Received: from mail.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <4309."administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk> for <"administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk"@mail.demon.co.uk>; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:12:23 +0100 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (91.221.168.47) by HVUT01.thus.corp (192.168.70.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:09:12 +0100 Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B506E3B406A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B083B4069 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD7A3B4060 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (unknown [206.53.239.180]) by mdfmta006.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE327F01061; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:11:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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t=1349885465; bh=I7Tniy4b8caGJxHjEH5bWG6tRBENKI6HtDaKKkWK OUE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=j++kMAqVMsCb0YH3T1kXCUAhaekDFPs9LPLrkoPjbU4G7siofW ufCG1pT1FOXIqptnDQsB5bjHaNilEHpcPUbINQvQHFrbYQq0rMypwZoP5joBegc60hv b09M4mOt0jqWhhKPMhEHuTSgVaN13l2omq2iQ7PlQAUz3kuv0tDKjs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:10:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8115FF0103D for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:10:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7uoPH90j3VRv for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E670AF00F28 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95C4003E7 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1AC4003E2 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk (unknown [62.49.20.172]) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:09:24 +0100 To: From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Rotsted pamphlet printing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-MDF-HostID: 19 X-archive-position: 1459 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-Subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-MDF-HostID: 23 X-MDF-HostID: 23 Return-Path: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HVUT01.thus.corp X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 In message , "Richard Torrens (lists)" writes >I use pamphlet printing a lot. But I would like to do a rotated pamphlet >with the fold horizontal, as the attached draw file and cannot work out >how to. Like you're printing calendars... Ovation Pro lets you write new print formats via its script language, so it definitely can be done, only snag is no one understands how. You're probably looking for an easier approach. If there's not a lot of material you could rotate the page contents and then print as a normal pamphlet. The 'thumbnails' print format is another possibility but it does not have the pagination of pamphlet, it would be equivalent to the 'galley' print format but with sideways pages. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling