From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 15:40:01 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWVC7-3wLVbs-03-9WW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:40:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWVC7-3wLVbs-03-9WW; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWVC7-3wLVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWVC1-0000b7-BF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EC66E64F01; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322840308; bh=9T/UAk2wmbrDXSOdSYTs6jrhy1s9BqqrIX0xvTHa zDw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=moNrGdVFaGvNErX4IrRVh/uFRgiUOXK2sq1cnKptwmTn7X++Q0 jbN+zqIxL8h/GQdkU7mhCbMEFY0nfXa+QQAnd8eFFjPaTZDS7ICUfItUe5rSSoHtLG4 ge1vC4wkFPoNfmss3hVcXjIId2hJGpdPPqktvzm3O3ZkgEtd53GPpw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oqH4EabTvnMq; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5DA1FE6484F; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322840306; bh=9T/UAk2wmbrDXSOdSYTs6jrhy1s9BqqrIX0xvTHa zDw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nhDGOi1zxS/d5TeRL7hBQT+0M3waj42d2ZV0u9mquktR2/+GpC F9tOMB8mWG/aehe2Kmp2yF+RrEoFPk67bw2eYEE0DzkFoCXTEiSGeftbNd8L9CCgeww m4v/75RUuN4Gl+3j96Lf6FHyBAlqlFCzyKfHIx1/nyLHQeFW7TbUVM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:38:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33B9CE649EA for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NPXiXpB7iqtM for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A344E6484F for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RWVBj-0000tf-ml for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:36:50 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <8c05393952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <5Oubl$D1e50OFw0Q@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 929 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes writes >It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word >but will only display the contents of !MainDict, you can select any of >the others and its just displays a empty dictionary window (saying >!MainDict in window bar). Do those dictionaries contain anything? There is also the thing I said earlier, Spell caches dictionaries, so it does not notice if those present on disc change, and "present on disc" means present in the location Spell looks, changing the location by booting other copies of !Words will also give this effect of it knowing about dictionaries which it can't access. Quit and re-run Spell should resolve these problems. I don't recall how the internal dictionaries work, whether it uses them if no !Words has been seen or if you have to edit !Run to tell it to use one location or another. Like many similar resource folders, only having one !Words in the whole computer is a good idea. But one pokes in a floppy, and hours later is being asked to reproduce it - because the !folder on it has been booted. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 18:54:28 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWY5f-0bnknw-05-F9U.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:54:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWY5f-0bnknw-05-F9U; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:44:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWY5f-0bnknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:44:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWY5a-0004mL-9v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:44:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30DDFE659C4; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:44:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322851440; bh=baohrCnIJQgsf4qEqz4Dz3XqOpT+1KVAPwo0jduZ 2vk=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=NUvfOR8CS57WzYNqHU5FLnEwIBvCXwK9oglPw98MWD/RNoSgBF g5Wk1ItHiVuawemDd4/jtUFipllaFU2hHM1EUBmnoxCx5iYe6/aFCmLWbqqvM1dERFa +XTYs0n+NOTHfRD869W5JQDfMGi3pRkWePq+P2wMRmdiTS7iGxTD90= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hp4yqVIdxIDp; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9AB20E6529E; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322851439; bh=baohrCnIJQgsf4qEqz4Dz3XqOpT+1KVAPwo0jduZ 2vk=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=e7iJ4GZTTNk7CLf/ui1h96I3NXBNe0cgfQFEqaowJBVkqi4C70 XyLmkaNEaYEivSXYsTy8H0/fO4x3QlpjnsY4k4beZFsqljcgP8Qvl8JQ5dQTQhBRC0v lhCQyOTS6YuoAreaY6LwvUfv856Y5XQnrmhDHFiuBFV0O3Ncb0e9tA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6EDEDE653EA for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gUXseFbADLmw for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 955ACE6529E for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.o2.co.uk (93.97.148.139) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as mytardis@o2.co.uk) id 4E0B26B31E58E8F7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:38:47 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:27 GMT Message-ID: References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <8c05393952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <5Oubl$D1e50OFw0Q@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 930 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@noonehere.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes > writes >>It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word >>but will only display the contents of !MainDict, you can select any of >>the others and its just displays a empty dictionary window (saying >>!MainDict in window bar). > Do those dictionaries contain anything? Yes - checked by trying to edit them > There is also the thing I said earlier, Spell caches dictionaries, so it > does not notice if those present on disc change, and "present on disc" > means present in the location Spell looks, changing the location by > booting other copies of !Words will also give this effect of it knowing > about dictionaries which it can't access. Only one copy of !Words on computer > Quit and re-run Spell should resolve these problems. Nope -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 19:09:28 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWYQy-1icknw-04-EoB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:09:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWYQy-1icknw-04-EoB; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:06:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWYQy-1icknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:06:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWYQt-0006zc-MT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A2A5E656BA; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:06:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322852762; bh=CTLd+C32c4Ld3e/v/fITAr7ksip37PDpXJmT7uHJ qOk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=H4zpq7TjwnhDe2gvYyvXYcBMyUKRMJRSR32pwlAiWVKLDWxOrm evzaHLtDR8QO2mQYBo+eSTmClZpfzULszVgOGmOqhvgk0KaW4OmCRKyZPcPLMPJrX6n GVLDkcDwO6p+q3EE/vPCa0GPTlErR+B/Dttc3QljCpC1Wot6RM/Q3o= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BPnij0h2vm20; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4760E6568C; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:05:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322852761; bh=CTLd+C32c4Ld3e/v/fITAr7ksip37PDpXJmT7uHJ qOk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=pcm3NfNyHCXR1ol1gJi11m2ETwlROGmvw3Z47litdpg/oAbqWS /api66/DIELQ1IVnS/vnR/c4Df/ntsBwH3HgmBhZzUVSTo477TiZMJ7UEDophOHFxuw 1od/ReSC6at8vh1fLy6xV0CIsLmCBNkPO4OqmSIZudd1oTJQyQWdkQ= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:05:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75586E6568D for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:05:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ms5e1YQ+VQD3 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E335FE6568C for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RWYQb-00002U-pa for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:05:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:04:42 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 931 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message , Chris Hughes writes >> Do those dictionaries contain anything? >Yes - checked by trying to edit them In spell? (which raises the question how else does spell let you look at them), or in another program like OvationPro? It is perhaps fair to say that Spell has not been recompiled for ARMv7 and probably I should do that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 19:24:30 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWYZs-22Mknw-02-EfH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:24:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWYZs-22Mknw-02-EfH; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:15:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWYZs-22Mknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:15:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWYZo-0003nY-2f for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:15:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA58EE657C4; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:15:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322853313; bh=G3sH6Z0ML7vcjs8sOFxZva1TC6/dwKKkiiEAoa99 5lA=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=loORkTQ1IlXJQzfmGx0sVgoNUtmEfu4owPfyT6o6lFDNfMeyNl 0yW9QWKP/zCFmYsP/xGR+8dSTfj/TcPGI5zdp4x7gsP7meue3C4lbrF4M7FmTMXGU45 5KAosF94AU8ZIsLKW2UoHm/0sqF70hljTLDiC9mcg++DQP59z0ODAw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ODikFbnINEys; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A7F1E656DF; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:15:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322853312; bh=G3sH6Z0ML7vcjs8sOFxZva1TC6/dwKKkiiEAoa99 5lA=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=UZDrE5k/4wze/F5rakh/JFcamOU1Kvh44Tc1bZyd75VVj+Qus2 eZdL47K44mFXA64qKpoPO0Mrdcwo2SUzdJvNSUsusrcITmGo2ZcNBvvt7jkxADpsROp LZk1o0gqhnyZrgyHL19mzq94SXk6s6lJpNnL+LU6DUtZzy5ArlawSY= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:14:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6F5AE656E4 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:14:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uReYUKvw7j0u for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45BE8E656DF for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-203-223.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.203.223]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pB2JEqwE009895 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:14:52 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:13:36 GMT Message-ID: References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 932 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 2 Dec 2011 David Pilling wrote: > In message , Chris Hughes > writes >>> Do those dictionaries contain anything? >>Yes - checked by trying to edit them > In spell? (which raises the question how else does spell let you look at > them), or in another program like OvationPro? > It is perhaps fair to say that Spell has not been recompiled for ARMv7 > and probably I should do that. However, it seems to work fine on this ARMini. Just to try things out, I have five dictionaries loaded in Spell at the moment, and Spell as well as MPro are checking this as I type! (It just bleeped at me when I transposed two letters in "type", one of my regular typos). I can also edit these dictionaries. Now, if only MPro could have an add-on like the Abbreviations applet in OPro, which I use to correct a lot of my regular typos ... With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC738E65043 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-203-223.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.203.223]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pB2JXPmC010388 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:33:25 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:32:43 GMT Message-ID: <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <8c05393952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <5Oubl$D1e50OFw0Q@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 933 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 2 Dec 2011 Chris Hughes wrote: > In message > David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, >> In message <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes >> writes >>>It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word >>>but will only display the contents of !MainDict, you can select any of >>>the others and its just displays a empty dictionary window (saying >>>!MainDict in window bar). >> Do those dictionaries contain anything? > Yes - checked by trying to edit them >> There is also the thing I said earlier, Spell caches dictionaries, so it >> does not notice if those present on disc change, and "present on disc" >> means present in the location Spell looks, changing the location by >> booting other copies of !Words will also give this effect of it knowing >> about dictionaries which it can't access. > Only one copy of !Words on computer >> Quit and re-run Spell should resolve these problems. > Nope Just a belated thought. Do you, Chris, have DataPower running at the same time as Speak? Even though I don't use the spell-check options in DataPower (these use !Words) I have learned not to use MPro's EmailEdit when or after I've used DataPower, as I get unpredictable crashes of EmailEdit when I use its spell-checker. OPro seems to be immune to this. Andrew at RComp and Alan Wrigley are aware of this, and are baffled by it, but I just wonder if something similar could be causing Chris's problem. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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(which raises the question how else does spell let you look at > them), or in another program like OvationPro? !Spell was on the icon bar and I could goto the edit option off the menu and see words in each of the dictionaries which were held in !Words. > It is perhaps fair to say that Spell has not been recompiled for ARMv7 > and probably I should do that. -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 22:09:33 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWbH9-3SjVbs-02-By0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:09:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWbH9-3SjVbs-02-By0; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:08:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWbH9-3SjVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:08:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWbH2-00006F-Mo for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9055FE657D3 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.o2.co.uk (93.97.148.139) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as mytardis@o2.co.uk) id 4E0B285E1E66FF1E for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:07:47 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:06:24 GMT Message-ID: References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <8c05393952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <5Oubl$D1e50OFw0Q@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@p nyoung.o X-archive-position: 935 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@noonehere.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling rmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 2 Dec 2011 Chris Hughes wrote: >> In message >> David Pilling wrote: >>> Hi, >>> In message <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes >>> writes >>>>It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word >>>>but will only display the contents of !MainDict, you can select any of >>>>the others and its just displays a empty dictionary window (saying >>>>!MainDict in window bar). >>> Do those dictionaries contain anything? >> Yes - checked by trying to edit them >>> There is also the thing I said earlier, Spell caches dictionaries, so it >>> does not notice if those present on disc change, and "present on disc" >>> means present in the location Spell looks, changing the location by >>> booting other copies of !Words will also give this effect of it knowing >>> about dictionaries which it can't access. >> Only one copy of !Words on computer >>> Quit and re-run Spell should resolve these problems. >> Nope > Just a belated thought. Do you, Chris, have DataPower running at the > same time as Speak? Even though I don't use the spell-check options in > DataPower (these use !Words) I have learned not to use MPro's > EmailEdit when or after I've used DataPower, as I get unpredictable > crashes of EmailEdit when I use its spell-checker. OPro seems to be > immune to this. No I don't have DataPower. Why Speak? or do you mean Spell ? Anyway its not a major issue to honest. It works in Messenger Pro -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 22:24:33 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWbJk-07Bknw-06-BvP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:24:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWbJk-07Bknw-06-BvP; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:10:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWbJk-07Bknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:10:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWbJe-0003OL-QF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:10:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D19AE6592F; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322863845; bh=X5VgF4/QTClJdz4u0FcZdKC461F7lAYzFV2rNqAW Axs=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=n2zYCFiLhN+YmPUmZ1ze8nMdhASgQL9EFdRTrIX8JTcTLVT5z1 eD+YmfHOs7tgIFmNdysvBvNIe6+36Uk+LSMxCtF2fJUeBH9BGoIrxBAeJZQsxw0R2er /7jDWswgY18Sui7KPdG54HnmXfJ6mpBWFPKdI1cEvCIbQwNJtVAGug= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v2Jg3oCw0-31; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58CF1E658D0; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322863843; bh=X5VgF4/QTClJdz4u0FcZdKC461F7lAYzFV2rNqAW Axs=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=NYYJN6KMUNUB6s5wxuNalqffuvBT32+54dAhPPfYFgZLQyUZWP sYXFfC1UVe/PE6Lg0RuXZdlfugsi6YCrJlqv4Fk9BP2xnfG2jB/WQFKcY48mhfyfsWj u9k7gJY0RSgOz5QOE5exqzoG//2gR29dFyKgtr5WH1m3jfqGyXDIDU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F454E65925 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C+daMtiCUt+p for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B689EE658D0 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-203-223.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.203.223]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pB2MAPxS014582 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:10:26 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:10:14 GMT Message-ID: References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <8c05393952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <5Oubl$D1e50OFw0Q@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 936 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 2 Dec 2011 Chris Hughes wrote: > rmail.co.uk> > In-Reply-To: <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> > User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > In message <9dfb6c3b52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> > Dr Peter Young wrote: [snip] >> Just a belated thought. Do you, Chris, have DataPower running at the >> same time as Speak? Even though I don't use the spell-check options in >> DataPower (these use !Words) I have learned not to use MPro's >> EmailEdit when or after I've used DataPower, as I get unpredictable >> crashes of EmailEdit when I use its spell-checker. OPro seems to be >> immune to this. > No I don't have DataPower. Why Speak? or do you mean Spell ? Yes, sorry, I did mean Spell. It's been a long day! > Anyway its not a major issue to honest. It works in Messenger Pro Echoed. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ __ __ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 2 22:24:33 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWbQL-0Rfknw-08-Boo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:24:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWbQL-0Rfknw-08-Boo; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:17:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWbQL-0Rfknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:17:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWbQI-0004se-Oh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:17:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3D53AE65959; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:37 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322864257; bh=rzuDnIGBUB8TgJDssz/1VUoTRrgnRZXj3JCN2IIG 1tw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Vlvlqg7qlKa0jn64M+Zyon6q8N/OzTHpOO6LgOXNTVIFUdR1bD iXT2/HszLm2At6L3hSijDtEzux64tdVVKv0UGmoFEf8PTygG2cPiW2fqPo1D0/Qunm5 dHSC61UTxil2mdCsqLVqIRUFJAiVUsaqQl0LoPZlwkcdNQDvyF+gjU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J8JsMrgza0cD; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A46F1E6592F; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322864256; bh=rzuDnIGBUB8TgJDssz/1VUoTRrgnRZXj3JCN2IIG 1tw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=PCMehTStkcK0FA2/qy9wecPzLLQ/s7/lL5fzRlmiqddopke/PB CJLGTIH00iEFk1ZeXBA60jk94yOQo4jZRHN9+9JBMJJXgp3eyMkwHetS4eUAJkhSvIm h0XmFYoCA6bmLR8qBi+onAn0jnaaNCy0VPqPL8V7hPocamq47k7KRM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7EF07E6565E for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gOu-kPjGHlyZ for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED686E65938 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RWbQ1-0006Yp-Z4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:17:08 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 937 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes >!Spell was on the icon bar and I could goto the edit option off the >menu and see words in each of the dictionaries which were held in >!Words. OK, so when you said "It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word but will only display the contents of !MainDict" - *where* was it displaying the contents of MainDict? (and not the contents of the others). I can only think of the Edit window, and maybe browse when spell checking. Was browse where the problem was? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 3 12:02:40 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWm2q-0W7knw-06-9ip.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:02:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWm2q-0W7knw-06-9ip; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:38:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWm2q-0W7knw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:38:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWm2o-0002hN-8a for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:38:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70555E65C21; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:38:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322905084; bh=20R7xl+qJc/5rOkw5rZ47P9iBCUqA93FDIlqZ/to ud0=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=B/sLnmrKfEx0GIBPPexxDxsQE7ZL2FwSA0P859Gk8Q9MR9w0Zv SvR3J+eVcgTipNYtXeCubonq7EmcA8fj16GbEimnbH08f15PwanY+9Pood+2rYe9kTn /8UGQOaKS+R5dfL0Z1JhtWF61JXFS5hHPvyS6HvVh+4h53fEX/JjOE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38RiGY7Cpv62; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9B68E65953; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:37:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322905083; bh=20R7xl+qJc/5rOkw5rZ47P9iBCUqA93FDIlqZ/to ud0=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Frr1ctH8HWA9La9Qhc6Uh1PerCME0oPmNQvYokQGzSeWNgtFRJ pUegfXWPZkOp4qwLeYgNyWGBnwR7X+Sk0kC8zUPyJqq/8x/ughII8wS+fX0E1blx7sr +BrvGlseaAJ7PknsestEpeCI96mtVE31+IAJ6mJ93o0xCic/4D12kA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:37:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B282E658AA for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:37:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A-XWuFTWbmJK for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63393E65833 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.o2.co.uk (93.97.148.139) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as mytardis@o2.co.uk) id 4E0B285E1E77061A for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 09:37:47 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:36:05 GMT Message-ID: <0d32ba3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 938 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@noonehere.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes >>!Spell was on the icon bar and I could goto the edit option off the >>menu and see words in each of the dictionaries which were held in >>!Words. > OK, so when you said > "It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word > but will only display the contents of !MainDict" - > *where* was it displaying the contents of MainDict? (and not the > contents of the others). I can only think of the Edit window, and maybe > browse when spell checking. Was browse where the problem was? OK here goes for step by step. Launch !Spell v3.15 to icon bar Left click on icon open the Edit !MainDict window, I can see the 77000+ words in dictionary. close that window. Now use icon menu to goto Dictionary > Edit option and select any of the available one and this opens the Edit dictionary window with the words from the chosen dictionary. But now try the Dictionary > Load option and select any dictionary other then !MainDict and then click on the !Spell icon on icon bar and it opens a blank edit window saying its Editting !MainDict, when say Dutch has been chosen to be loaded. I suspect its simply a minor bug, it certainly does not appear to stop it working. -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 3 12:02:46 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWnXo-2RbGPo-01-GkN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:02:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWnXo-2RbGPo-01-GkN; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:14:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWnXo-2RbGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:14:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWnXk-0004tk-6M for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:14:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AFAAE65C4E; 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Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8512AE65C4A for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from armini.o2.co.uk (93.97.148.139) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.119.05) (authenticated as mytardis@o2.co.uk) id 4E0B285E1E7A52B8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:13:50 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:10:05 GMT Message-ID: <28cdc23b52.chris@o2.co.uk> References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <0d32ba3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0d32ba3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.17) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 939 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@noonehere.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message <0d32ba3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> Chris Hughes wrote: > In message > David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, >> In message <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes >>>!Spell was on the icon bar and I could goto the edit option off the >>>menu and see words in each of the dictionaries which were held in >>>!Words. >> OK, so when you said >> "It launches fine to icon bar, and lists all the Dictionaries in !Word >> but will only display the contents of !MainDict" - >> *where* was it displaying the contents of MainDict? (and not the >> contents of the others). I can only think of the Edit window, and maybe >> browse when spell checking. Was browse where the problem was? > OK here goes for step by step. > Launch !Spell v3.15 to icon bar > Left click on icon open the Edit !MainDict window, I can see the > 77000+ words in dictionary. close that window. > Now use icon menu to goto Dictionary > Edit option and select any of > the available one and this opens the Edit dictionary window with the > words from the chosen dictionary. > But now try the Dictionary > Load option and select any dictionary > other then !MainDict and then click on the !Spell icon on icon bar and > it opens a blank edit window saying its Editting !MainDict, when say > Dutch has been chosen to be loaded. > I suspect its simply a minor bug, it certainly does not appear to stop > it working. Just a quick update its the same on v3.16 as well. I think its a bug rather then a compile issue with ARMini -- Chris Hughes To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 3 13:46:51 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RWpoq-0FGGPo-08-ETL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:46:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RWpoq-0FGGPo-08-ETL; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:39:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RWpoq-0FGGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:39:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RWpoo-00027v-Gz for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:39:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD821E65644; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322919592; bh=7uY6e6HFKSu+iQFJtQqoqt08u6PHYPJTSsDEBbgR Pfg=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=JOOXpjAV4kz1CA1RZN5kjbtg4XDLBs9EK5k0NWB3hHNRXzF3X/ ja40vIAk9avxUFDH8lU3zm5xQXSCN+ZL5mz58V6j7wBayHtCF2THwSX2/IKvevHI1CF IatfSEa1XsRmslgultIIQzW+xlOYcornDLPAjE+e+NRSn0wIwAqHL8= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28FVFbU3K0Kj; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6426E63DA6; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1322919591; bh=7uY6e6HFKSu+iQFJtQqoqt08u6PHYPJTSsDEBbgR Pfg=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RhQjm+3KkyTywX9Xipkj4aZgrHWUAvZwmYcYTMCCYwO9pe3kQ7 SQCLFt+3lE7NE/7gdcLOzqqePw4p0IoCYNE7YSLe7W928RQzFfotU13Cedn5FxppF/X qykb0Dz13kH3O09JSW6QQ51lGdwZp5mBY0D4gT3girkZChCMjd+85E= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BEC27E6494F for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sppYT8h8vRkc for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B449E63DA6 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RWpoX-0006yE-Zg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:39:37 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:38:04 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <28c27a3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <0d32ba3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> <28cdc23b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <28cdc23b52.chris@o2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 940 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <28cdc23b52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes writes >Just a quick update its the same on v3.16 as well. I think its a bug >rather then a compile issue with ARMini Thanks for the complete description - I have reproduced the problem on the Iyonix - I think it is a bug that has been there since the start. For the benefit of others I recompiled for ARMv7 and called the result version 3.16 and set Chris a copy. I guess that has made no difference to anything. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From <> Fri Dec 2 19:04:05 2011 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:04:05 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Reply-To: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: CrossStar problem with ARMini resolved References: <6d46323952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9998b13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <7157f13952.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <00e9e43a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <44x7YYFO2+1OFwPm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <56802f3b52.chris@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () In message , Chris Hughes writes >> Do those dictionaries contain anything? >Yes - checked by trying to edit them In spell? (which raises the question how else does spell let you look at them), or in another program like OvationPro? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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([91.85.35.123]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pB9JIrVW009631 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:18:53 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Font management Message-ID: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 941 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling I've at last taken the plunge and have Windows OvPro to complement the SA-VRPC RISC OS version, but I'm struggling with the fonts. Under RISC OS I have the lovely flexible !FontDirPro which allows me to group all the fonts (e.g. serif/sans/basics folders) and to switch on or off either groups or individual sets. With Windows I'm swamped with fonts, where for DTP I really need only certain ones of my choosing (mainly from the EFF Typography CD which has RISC OS & TT versions) while allowing .doc files sent to me to appear as the authors intended. Dave Symes pointed me to The Font Thingy and I've downloaded that to the XP computer - I'm currently trying to tame it. But I also have a laptop running W7 64-bit. The Font Thingy is version 0.8 from about 1999 and the W7 laptop squawks in protest and tells me to get it fixed or else. Any ideas please? Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 9 20:33:00 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZ6jv-3ASknw-05-9wW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:33:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZ6jv-3ASknw-05-9wW; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:08:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZ6jv-3ASknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:08:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZ6js-0001Kt-Ma for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:08:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AA10E68647; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:08:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323461291; bh=pUON0o4pq01+XFzZcRkhM5g1SPI/RUD+qx5/jF07 5+o=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=RfttV9 e1jRsgUBp0OOGchkCm62F2z3U/FKxwMQt9HWt6189U8inR+kajIoYNtJ7QycfZwga/1 l0Y+cy8Hl0n3KQBygzgzuU2X9WWXQl6vPVXGGI9g2C+FHt6xlMUzh6WMNCnWAw3aZqP vP6jmAJOgDPql1KZ/Kos8eR1C13DLCI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s79tLmBRcwTh; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DC8EEE68625; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:07:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323461290; bh=pUON0o4pq01+XFzZcRkhM5g1SPI/RUD+qx5/jF07 5+o=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=D/Wtls ACMjazNP6hNRG6T5MqXYl0NWraplY2BeMyP/lhskr65dPqYsjWWTx4OZ2T3c2KatsPk 8pFUEAOXpoeN6AZh7EA0JWTwLvnyBWm7+KD82OQzrK0+J54XU/wXS1PRo4CvxGh3bx2 0JiInwBUE6gBR28owuCgwH3sfcSMWxk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:07:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1069E68623 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:07:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOZPRYGnoTRy for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B437E68618 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.164.235]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pB9K72Zl010887 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:07:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Message-ID: <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 942 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding wrote: [Snippy] > Dave Symes pointed me to The Font Thingy and I've downloaded that to > the XP computer - I'm currently trying to tame it. But I also have a > laptop running W7 64-bit. The Font Thingy is version 0.8 from about > 1999 and the W7 laptop squawks in protest and tells me to get it > fixed or else. > Any ideas please? Silly Boy... If you are going to travel the Win 64 bit route expect cartloads of dung (polite) where applications are concerned. Granted there are one or two, but generally speaking, very few Win app writers are interested in re-doing their apps for 64bit use. And that does include some big players. A possible solution is at the below noted URL http://imagesbyheatherm.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/the-font-thing-and-windows-7-64-bit/ In case wrap messes it up the end is... 'and-windows-7-64-bit' Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 9 20:33:00 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZ6wA-081000-06-9kH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:33:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZ6wA-081000-06-9kH; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:20:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZ6wA-081000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:20:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZ6w8-0005Iw-QO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:20:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF3CDE68643; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323462050; bh=68nEzQrOAce8zrJFb5El3Bo/RDC0vxVY6MYvy6/g FAs=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=HC8lV6 9aggsp9PluGrkpTmg2eMp3mjW+sDc3mm93kNVCL/hj4u1boRXjB9vTVSHFICjCrMCtu dkVfQ5I4NKl1lKueXphgBbherURj8y0QHQhBj109VHZmv/BcD0ewJh7Ap/11CXv0thK K0FaxWtr2wbwC9cV10kp37V9hqEawUI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EYBnkJk3aB2h; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B8F0E6863D; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323462050; bh=68nEzQrOAce8zrJFb5El3Bo/RDC0vxVY6MYvy6/g FAs=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=HC8lV6 9aggsp9PluGrkpTmg2eMp3mjW+sDc3mm93kNVCL/hj4u1boRXjB9vTVSHFICjCrMCtu dkVfQ5I4NKl1lKueXphgBbherURj8y0QHQhBj109VHZmv/BcD0ewJh7Ap/11CXv0thK K0FaxWtr2wbwC9cV10kp37V9hqEawUI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 238F2E6863E for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xuedvG3Uhb36 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 970DCE6863D for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZ6vr-0003hY-nM for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:20:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:19:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Message-ID: <523f0c17c3charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 943 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, > M Harding wrote: > [Snippy] > > Dave Symes pointed me to The Font Thingy and I've downloaded that to > > the XP computer - I'm currently trying to tame it. But I also have a > > laptop running W7 64-bit. The Font Thingy is version 0.8 from about > > 1999 and the W7 laptop squawks in protest and tells me to get it > > fixed or else. > > Any ideas please? > Silly Boy... > If you are going to travel the Win 64 bit route expect cartloads of dung > (polite) where applications are concerned. > Granted there are one or two, but generally speaking, very few Win app > writers are interested in re-doing their apps for 64bit use. > And that does include some big players. have you tried compatability settings? Right click on the icon, then Properties and then "Compatabilty. -- >From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 9 21:33:01 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZ7xZ-1EPVbs-05-8is.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:33:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZ7xZ-1EPVbs-05-8is; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:26:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZ7xZ-1EPVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:26:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZ7xT-0003go-19 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:26:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52C0CE67C21; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:40 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323464920; bh=viyHkdsMgCkTl3bOuMLcsTvgnEH4KxfhKk8Qtx5F 9vA=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=rY5j5Sqcb0z14hRAl/7lkoK4+33/vl1EFURcYoKweXksenvOF3 Ru87OuZqNDLwgkCnED/83qbA4Xc5U88ns8SqzaXi0TquKr5VWYbWZhFvES6QtGXFktl Zgs7FPMuHFv0tIT9zR3xMRFfm453jmZNWo0dbljXtH9/EUM538EtX4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uiymb4PZsCV7; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 062ECE68448; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323464919; bh=viyHkdsMgCkTl3bOuMLcsTvgnEH4KxfhKk8Qtx5F 9vA=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=wMmTlxrKe/WF9mhk+Hsmk6byJtG5RSQFpb+DF3eNcG3lufaZJd 7EF4Drb1r1Opt8EpV0VcqYXl8GgxDlxsLSzLjZigNKO/m4+iWLuu1CR/zfHTsSdQl7m C4tDl3CWj/dX80y3Bbni34qK9fn9pg3l2swduqBbBnSxhnLIWRSCAI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3909E68616 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IqoLYLwsEvS7 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9FAAE68448 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZ7fn-0005BB-dh for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:08:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:07:09 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 944 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >Granted there are one or two, but generally speaking, very few Win app >writers are interested in re-doing their apps for 64bit use. 32 bit applications (as opposed to drivers) should be OK on 64 bit windows. I suppose font management might be a bit beyond the scope of pure applications. The Misc-> font management thing in OP will let you turn off fonts, but it might be tedious to set up. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 10 17:28:58 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZFt1-2ZTVbs-03-9Jw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:28:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZFt1-2ZTVbs-03-9Jw; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:54:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZFt1-2ZTVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:54:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZFsy-0002VD-VQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:54:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DD65E6857E; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:54:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323496450; bh=I8u34YRFIumTK0PqSRkV8X8NHDD6lBbAUd7w21rR gUA=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Kz6deN +xknsWyYlwIr0f9Om/sg0BIARER5ZoWnBF+GqRAUJvpXn9/PLMYjVQWZWVpXhkgFoAA S38Xl0KQY5Djn7NtHsLvypyC/GeNtgg9Q117PhTGBjwrcl6nvwyqE4F+QsGVgwGpRei p6FKVOtAzvjpRziNWow94SQqGdBj9VI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUstoBSL-Gwv; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DE8EE68522; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:53:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323496449; bh=I8u34YRFIumTK0PqSRkV8X8NHDD6lBbAUd7w21rR gUA=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=MSjcFR r7pnCcPZVXRgQw3wU7RTk7wxxRe0TUtBJjC7Bur3b07teeiqzUqcpI5Nq2jyGBioq5K xJ1W6YnhQxF3yEHJZCb684M/yKG+k8xzDgpctKXPpy0CF+TAgEWlzDNfis2dBsULOSB phbV1VrJphAMKs2mULnT+9gf5YKV/0s= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:53:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E4FFE68529 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:53:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blXbcRhkibzW for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C5E1E68522 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.253.27]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBA5riCY026609 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:53:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:45:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Message-ID: <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 945 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >Granted there are one or two, but generally speaking, very few Win app > >writers are interested in re-doing their apps for 64bit use. > 32 bit applications (as opposed to drivers) should be OK on 64 bit > windows. I suppose font management might be a bit beyond the scope of > pure applications. > The Misc-> font management thing in OP will let you turn off fonts, but > it might be tedious to set up. It appears... If the app can be run from the .exe without first being installed (TFThing can) then it'll function under 64bit okay. If a 32 bit app requires the full kit 'n kaboodle installation, then it'll baulk on 64bit. Well that's what I read... So if Michael downloads a copy of the TFT zip archive (rather than the MSI version) extracts the TFT.exe to somewhere, it can be used just by 2/clicking that. 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NexusFont might be worth a look: http://xiles.net/nexusfont/ -- C.B. 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10 Dec 2011 15:31:42 +0000 From: "Colin Beswick" To: References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <4EE331AD.6020907@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EE331AD.6020907@ed.ac.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:31:42 -0000 Message-ID: <7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acy3JPTC6R+6FH4ETyi7mCs4cR/UHQAK3fIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-archive-position: 947 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: c.beswick@tiscali.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Two possibilities; Typograf, the Windows 7 version has just been released (neuber software) after a long wait and printer apprentice. Both easy to find on Google. I have looked at demo versions and they seem to be OK in 64 bit. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Clive Bonsall Sent: 10 December 2011 10:17 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management On 09/12/2011 21:18, M Harding wrote: > I've at last taken the plunge and have Windows OvPro to complement the > SA-VRPC RISC OS version, but I'm struggling with the fonts. NexusFont might be worth a look: http://xiles.net/nexusfont/ -- C.B. 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([91.85.35.123]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBAGYZMM011160 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:34:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Message-ID: <523f7a9423riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 948 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > Hi, > > In message <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > writes > > >Granted there are one or two, but generally speaking, very few > > >Win app writers are interested in re-doing their apps for 64bit > > >use. > > 32 bit applications (as opposed to drivers) should be OK on 64 > > bit windows. I suppose font management might be a bit beyond the > > scope of pure applications. > > The Misc-> font management thing in OP will let you turn off > > fonts, but it might be tedious to set up. > It appears... If the app can be run from the .exe without first > being installed (TFThing can) then it'll function under 64bit okay. [ . . . ] > So if Michael downloads a copy of the TFT zip archive (rather than > the MSI version) extracts the TFT.exe to somewhere, it can be used > just by 2/clicking that. Dave Symes was correct about 'how daft to use 64-bit W7' - I'd never tried anything beyond XP3 so was appalled at its problems. But this workaround does exactly that, so thank you. I may call upon him for some tutoring since the Help system is not as clear as it might be. 8-) But it certainly looks promising. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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([91.85.35.123]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBAGYZMO011160 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:34:37 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:35:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management Message-ID: <523f7b776driscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC> References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <4EE331AD.6020907@ed.ac.uk> <7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 949 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC>, Colin Beswick wrote: > Two possibilities; Typograf, the Windows 7 version has just been > released (neuber software) after a long wait and printer > apprentice. Both easy to find on Google. I have looked at demo > versions and they seem to be OK in 64 bit. It looks to be extremely good and easy to use. I see that as Shareware it costs 35 dollars after 30 days' appraisal; but the typographical information alone might be worth that, if I can bring myself to use a credit card in dollars! > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management > On 09/12/2011 21:18, M Harding wrote: > > I've at last taken the plunge and have Windows OvPro to > > complement the SA-VRPC RISC OS version, but I'm struggling with > > the fonts. > [mailto:davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Clive > Bonsall > NexusFont might be worth a look: http://xiles.net/nexusfont/ NexusFont looked very promising, perhaps easier to use than TheFontThing, until I read the Forum questions about things going wrong and began to have some doubts. Has anyone tried it? Thanks for the 3 ideas so far. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 6.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 950 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mik.towse@xemik.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523f7b776driscos@mdharding.org.uk> M Harding wrote: > It looks to be extremely good and easy to use. I see that as Shareware > it costs 35 dollars after 30 days' appraisal; but the typographical > information alone might be worth that, if I can bring myself to use a > credit card in dollars! They probably take Paypal, so you could pay in USD, but your card will be charged immediately in GBP. -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net Inside every large problem is a small problem trying to get out. 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Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-ey0-f179.google.com (mail-ey0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6149FE645AE for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by eaaa11 with SMTP id a11so1237264eaa.10 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.4.15 with SMTP id 15mr2466553ebp.142.1323548507135; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.4.15 with SMTP id 15mr2466549ebp.142.1323548506896; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.81.151.194] ([109.166.128.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e56sm1107436eea.0.2011.12.10.12.21.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:21:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE3BF4F.8090007@ed.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:21:35 +0200 From: Clive Bonsall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <4EE331AD.6020907@ed.ac.uk> <7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC> <523f7b776driscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f7b776driscos@mdharding.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 951 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 10/12/2011 18:35, M Harding wrote: > In article<7D19B0597E1C4C1F9AEE88F8768BA4AE@StudyPC>, > Colin Beswick wrote: > NexusFont looked very promising, perhaps easier to use than > TheFontThing, until I read the Forum questions about things going > wrong and began to have some doubts. Has anyone tried it? It's freeware and being actively developed, so why not give it a try? -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 10 21:43:08 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZUb4-1kD000-02-Bev.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:43:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZUb4-1kD000-02-Bev; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:36:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZUb4-1kD000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:36:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZUay-00006a-Ag for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:36:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF9D4E6871A; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323552993; bh=uBmPqYBrsYp9PxTLlmDuZ9t9ZB0SdOg0RNGrUx80 6To=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=MKdfKI8yvBcXPihBLqAuN6pSdkH3o KmSlbTy2iT4zIXcH/pLLWJoEoNkQz5vBIfScmATQOo9XFCpeBqS3D1T7IqfGEdpF2Ox 19YDcw2HyEFVivdDABguH/mByU2x/2HrwYCBYo6dwtRgMqq9MO8WXaxpXK0AacUvs0Z OqjcES8w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UUi1E6KlIya8; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36750E66D21; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323552992; bh=uBmPqYBrsYp9PxTLlmDuZ9t9ZB0SdOg0RNGrUx80 6To=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=kYL+R5MVlUuVRbpIXu2rQ08v99Ko+ gz/QLWufQYO2vd/ndqvjBL/27g7Od4ecWadKS9u7WuMZ2o0IOVh3BKOnqWdgl69gcok vyV2rhAHNs6QQ64gNnIa2fO5IN4M1FxNhqLnTY9V1x69s2bNP+rxrJU3UqsxwVXx3e2 UAKHQjFM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C453E68707 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ScFjRC+kzW7k for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97341E66D21 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.208.110]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBALaCuS019126 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:36:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Fonts again Message-ID: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 952 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling The RO/Truetype or opposite way around... crops up regularly, particularly here where we have in use both RO and Win versions of OvPro. I have effTT so Truetype to RO can in many cases be done, however t'other way around is another ball game... Madams latest font problem involves a RO font "Hayleys.Shadow" and I just cannot seem to find it in Truetype form, or even something close, to satisfy her requirements (Can I [Dave] get a divorce please?) I've posted a sample of the font at: http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/font.zip so if anyone knows of a similar Truetype, could you let me know, please. Alternatively, any font converters for RO to Truetype? FontForge is not an option ATM, I've looked at the site and read, but unfortunately my medication has turned the brain to mush, so there's no way I could make enough sense out of that to install the thing. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 10 22:41:48 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZVaT-2uG000-02-AfW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:41:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZVaT-2uG000-02-AfW; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:40:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZVaT-2uG000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:40:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZVaP-0001e8-O3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:40:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5813E68827; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:40:03 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 906B2E68102 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZVaV-00086u-JC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:40:11 +0000 Message-ID: <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:39:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZVaV-00086u-JC X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 953 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Dave Symes wrote: > The RO/Truetype or opposite way around... crops up regularly, particularly > here where we have in use both RO and Win versions of OvPro. > > I have effTT so Truetype to RO can in many cases be done, however t'other > way around is another ball game... [snip] > Alternatively, any font converters for RO to Truetype? Does it absolutely have to be a TrueType font on the Windows side? RiScript converts fonts to PostScript and thence they can be installed on a PC. (If you don't have RiScript, either I or someone else can do the job for you if you make the full font available; the version in the Zip file wasn't liked by FontEd, which complained that most of the metrics files were too short.) -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 10 22:56:47 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZVgH-2YnVbs-06-AZi.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:56:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZVgH-2YnVbs-06-AZi; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:46:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZVgH-2YnVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:46:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZVgE-0004GW-Nz for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4A97FE68830; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:46:05 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323557165; bh=DVh686CQJ96OBK+szwhmQcarZLMSshoaz5Oo/X0u W6U=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=N0/y68vdzM9ziVN5XqcLwsGG4LeO45Wlps5BzDKjipmbA9OPiZ lpuPwXcv4oBC6D1sCxlhs0eqFNoR9T+nCN1luCESM8tNYg3slzwviM4D7qid5rpy5Y2 +KdCzs7LGOuOg0R75y9CRx0P3BA+qzeT77RjTFCesx+ahs+YS2fHIw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gSqAGx83p7gM; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 258F0E65F2F; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:45:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323557164; bh=DVh686CQJ96OBK+szwhmQcarZLMSshoaz5Oo/X0u W6U=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Q2KN437446d7E1QUWvGsHPGW+yjoJvYpz6AwxV1da3584flNtN RRv68ZdkTlp89qPeyZfckJ/dcKn2vCSCYxm/dDGKnsWtKsEl+Rbj36e6dQs6fE4B4ts TBL58UwH4h29V2AxuyqSOoE62Cob/S/ZG8ODb+mBMOhjawKWqMZhrM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:45:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EBBE0E6882E for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:45:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xdcR+kdszt3n for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 619E9E65F2F for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZVfy-0002C4-a2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:44:38 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font management References: <523f0692a5riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523f0aec39dave@triffid.co.uk> <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 954 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <523f3ff776dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >It appears... If the app can be run from the .exe without first being >installed (TFThing can) then it'll function under 64bit okay. > >If a 32 bit app requires the full kit 'n kaboodle installation, then it'll >baulk on 64bit. I'd beg to differ. As far as I recall my 32 bit apps work on 64 bit win. But system tools, drivers, anything that is dependent on the details of win 32, I can imagine will not work - probably one could class this as software that is not written by the rules. At some point, circa 2006, I had one machine set up with XP 64 and I did quite a lot of software writing on it - so for sure OP works, I did do a 64 bit version of DPScan. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 12:14:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZcwk-1m1Vbs-05-Bpl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:14:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZcwk-1m1Vbs-05-Bpl; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:31:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZcwk-1m1Vbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:31:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZcwg-00079U-40 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:31:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57ADCE687E3; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323585092; bh=AWwLl1uWsQ0Y+0hQIqHCvSql+2UFlWELnLUgpf0d qLo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=t+Bakk4mqHC41goTj55ifbYDUWBL2mph0vVczFPnqIxg6S45Fi hwkGxt1vfkaopj87XFoUV2sjuQ/l2GoMWEKYYHeo5JDCnHgEhwFvcT/P7K4id9KZ7Og FrZkGamqmZO4gW+Ynta0owaQHKdcJpbFr2VRh6mrPcqGoSNLy39/yQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WQu4Hvm1pW9m; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D7AD7E687D0; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323585091; bh=AWwLl1uWsQ0Y+0hQIqHCvSql+2UFlWELnLUgpf0d qLo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RN5HVBBNkqMs01a1dX7SwhoFfuifqEll2ATEAVgGyn2E1AVseF dUO8S4TdCrhNeXv2aCPduMd7RUfxd7nazkvHGAGfHK1pqpoeq4yMm8hInwhG34BpOSP LbxmgN6XMgTmqsCQbD0F6qcweOFr5YFfnfsYjPrasA+6ejMGELrsEo= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:18 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5DD4E687D4 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oj04b-Cd8wbH for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9B5F0E687D0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.32.9]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBB6V6tl022720 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:31:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Fonts again Message-ID: <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> In-Reply-To: <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly wrote: > Dave Symes wrote: > > The RO/Truetype or opposite way around... crops up regularly, > > particularly here where we have in use both RO and Win versions of > > OvPro. > > > > I have effTT so Truetype to RO can in many cases be done, however > > t'other way around is another ball game... > [snip] > > Alternatively, any font converters for RO to Truetype? > Does it absolutely have to be a TrueType font on the Windows side? > RiScript converts fonts to PostScript and thence they can be installed > on a PC. Sorry, I have no idea what RiScript is. > (If you don't have RiScript, either I or someone else can do the job for > you if you make the full font available; the version in the Zip file > wasn't liked by FontEd, which complained that most of the metrics files > were too short.) FontEd (0.32) here complains about almost every font I have. DrFonty loads them okay. It can output PostScript, but unfortunately just falls over when this is attempted, as it always has done. (This Font problem for Fay, with other fonts has arisen in the past). (Might be the version of RO I'm using 6.20). That font in the archive is all there is, I have no idea where it came from, it's been on my machine for ages... Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 12:14:43 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZgYP-1Y3Vbs-06-Gkc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:14:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZgYP-1Y3Vbs-06-Gkc; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZgYP-1Y3Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZgYM-00079P-Up for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94AC5E681D2; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:22:40 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B14CE66BE8 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZgYS-0008T3-HY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:48 +0000 Message-ID: <3BA7E6802D124C1EB7ABC02FEC1624E0@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZgYS-0008T3-HY X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 956 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Dave Symes wrote: > In article <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle>, > Bruce Goatly wrote: >> Does it absolutely have to be a TrueType font on the Windows side? >> RiScript converts fonts to PostScript and thence they can be installed >> on a PC. > > Sorry, I have no idea what RiScript is. It's a PDF reader/creator application. >> (If you don't have RiScript, either I or someone else can do the job for >> you if you make the full font available; the version in the Zip file >> wasn't liked by FontEd, which complained that most of the metrics files >> were too short.) > > FontEd (0.32) here complains about almost every font I have. [snip] > That font in the archive is all there is, I have no idea where it came > from, it's been on my machine for ages... Give me a while, then, and I'll see what I can do - unless someone else has a better offer. -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 13:14:13 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZipD-2NFknw-04-ETo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:14:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZipD-2NFknw-04-ETo; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:48:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZipD-2NFknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:48:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZipB-0004js-52 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:48:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 855DEE6866F; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:48:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323607690; bh=VHPR+blc30tadtbMNRoT+zPcntRecAVGIJh7FVHH Uw4=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=u9ejUI Pe110+6n0xR+lgkoVa/+gNeUymJFdeBvhIYLpPTRL9rbcFo3nJTnAxtTXiRi1ZpX4L3 m/370d3pEinCl+/D6CxJcM2D9zTKsnyLh4ipwQ1Np92AqlL+pPo73XKSmORdb913RyM 4YQL6eD+GVCWX8iUw+LtTwcPeCdImB0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwND-aAzxjHv; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3B6EBE68581; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323607689; bh=VHPR+blc30tadtbMNRoT+zPcntRecAVGIJh7FVHH Uw4=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=LKuijZ esVunavcTkFm8tV5HgkVtvN77g830be95mnSVF6rtm+4/H2wxm/uZLN6UVpskbfaPJ2 ai6Fu6np8AogrMNH1abheUhOsCKwt6paztIsEe1IMIBBJCk9Jy947j8v3FF8mpXjrfe N/FZZg24vnqNA0Ht92hm2GvW0TaAd1Y= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C65DE6701E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VVTgEm5aw3It for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62390E68581 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from AMD2. ([91.85.37.246]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBClgmx032499 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:47:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:48:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 957 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: [ . . . ] > Madams latest font problem involves a RO font "Hayleys.Shadow" and > I just cannot seem to find it in Truetype form, or even something > close, to satisfy her requirements (Can I [Dave] get a divorce > please?) > I've posted a sample of the font at: > http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/font.zip so if anyone knows of a > similar Truetype, could you let me know, please. It's on iSV's Typography CD. Hayley is there and the variant Hayleys. So . . . is that name a clue as to which TT font it resembles? Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37A72E66C77 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZj8L-000118-Ig for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:08:01 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:07:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZj8L-000118-Ig X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 958 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Bruce Goatly wrote: > Give me a while, then, and I'll see what I can do - unless someone else > has a better offer. Of course I had the whole thing back to front - RiScript converts PostScript fonts to RISC OS format as it opens a PDF. Not what was wanted at all. But I do know that I've converted RO to PS in the past because my PC has some fonts on it that I made long ago to match some custom fonts on the RPC. I'll think on... Sorry about giving false hope. -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 13:59:13 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZjlW-46Kknw-02-DXV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:59:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZjlW-46Kknw-02-DXV; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:48:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZjlW-46Kknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:48:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZjlV-0003PX-BE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:48:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3E53E687D4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323611307; bh=XbD6TxWJ4k0cEDM0d0UmtFpX1axU64ejjQX5TsEH vFs=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=epjJP4e7snym3Cvw7G/a3mkVFAOrKtPWj46jCsHD2VTcM60uEv JJa8DEhdgPUIi8NamwCnUVxDDlNfUHffFbMT9qdHLOOxPEykL8uWh4FAcBkXECY6+fL 6HFxmeohF2JIdJTYMrR8jZNSOKfMfsnzyV85s+WFxub3cRucRcyA7U= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hBJQwXNdbiHI; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84C31E66E9E; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323611307; bh=XbD6TxWJ4k0cEDM0d0UmtFpX1axU64ejjQX5TsEH vFs=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=epjJP4e7snym3Cvw7G/a3mkVFAOrKtPWj46jCsHD2VTcM60uEv JJa8DEhdgPUIi8NamwCnUVxDDlNfUHffFbMT9qdHLOOxPEykL8uWh4FAcBkXECY6+fL 6HFxmeohF2JIdJTYMrR8jZNSOKfMfsnzyV85s+WFxub3cRucRcyA7U= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B0DEE68731 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UamZ5kIsdMOL for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5F18E66E9E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZjlD-0006Hy-id for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:48:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:47:10 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 959 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message , Bruce Goatly writes >know that I've converted RO to PS in the past because my PC has some >fonts on it The RISC OS printer driver converts RISC OS fonts to PostScript. Converting fonts to PostScript is not difficult, OP for Windows has to do it. One route must be, print font to PostScript, find tool that extracts fonts from PostScript - this latter tool can be on Windows/Linux/Mac, so a lot of scope. This subject has come up before. ISTR someone having a copy of of Dr. Fonty that does the job, and Dave Symes having a copy that won't. In other words looking at the list archives may help. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 14:29:13 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZkCf-1iy000-08-D6M.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:29:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZkCf-1iy000-08-D6M; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZkCf-1iy000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZkCb-0004y5-18 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 490A7E6875D; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323612987; bh=tZBK3JD8Ji2aP+Eo8ModOupAqxXi/yFx0bc6yjS7 6SI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=R4eqUX bRdOJT75RWuniq9vk78Du7oZecwTOBv+rKr05+Z13SOSNwIqC5QTGKlbWoGclqfFBUd MyLWlb7MJsqfTFVjxTYx4IhBu6NvpGFASDW5FZ7qJumCLY2pVYHiczK1RSUqwqZJean LvX+2alC7+PLLJg/f72JiSbl/kYFGc0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yrxa0h-zqS4A; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E8C56E65DF4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323612986; bh=tZBK3JD8Ji2aP+Eo8ModOupAqxXi/yFx0bc6yjS7 6SI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=cA6FxO l99B8V4ASG7GjS9ISe3BcxAyXTgroVPlx3evR/SoVc4Gh9cL8Do738wfzl3G1P5d5XS 8wSXwJyD9Sl4dqgEavL0Wo+Zryjiq/hlWTwXIGKXmWfrbePa/NWMOvkuS5qWkCzik/m Z550kQ4Vmv5NcocFwhF2F3YZD5pb8C0= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B98C3E68678 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7yoegV6c5Vpd for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 515A6E67EF0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.211.88]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBEFuaI002393 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:15:57 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:09:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <523ff1ed78dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 960 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding wrote: [Snip] > It's on iSV's Typography CD. Hayley is there and the variant Hayleys. > So . . . is that name a clue as to which TT font it resembles? > Michael Harding > Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk [Snip] Good thought.. If only it was that simple Michael. For those steeped in RO territory with our limited sets of fonts, it might come as a bit of an eye opener, but there are zillions of Tt font files on web sites... and after a couple of days trawling, I'm bleary eyed and brain dead, but still no close match. FWIW. Michael, the name searched returns a lot of rubbish, but not what I'm looking for. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 14:29:13 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZkCo-1gNGPo-03-D6D.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:29:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZkCo-1gNGPo-03-D6D; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZkCo-1gNGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZkCo-0004z1-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5348E687BA; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323612990; bh=dTfXHYjW4+nm6esCn76TOQad1XPS3CFvkb1hVdqG cyI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=lP+D2d tk/2M1k+bgM5iJfcl2aX9caHbVzz42mrxKbtEa4Wsb42SxDJ9jH0MkaHglSgvRTJd5H bOYyJcMvZNNCXahgfYBRMY5pIFLt+dg5BUZeyHdzMjsmY0EDhH+Ugn7l4F/oarTWQ9e qKJ9VErcJxp8a7MMc34jQCHBq26y8xo= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ijC7hEgYeQB8; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 00AC7E66BFB; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323612988; bh=dTfXHYjW4+nm6esCn76TOQad1XPS3CFvkb1hVdqG cyI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=cH6dWU 045fIFrO66PuNvpFkD/jfjB2zOhrDDNUz2exMveMLHY2JI7LTRXbERDi0M9L4dds5GK jI0AZONDqhheSGHxz9O9OSfMsKXQX27mUEstpbq9OKdPr2IXm8X3pdMjwlod1uQwh8V jAYBAWe/o0GN9zalNvc/xrDq003BqCI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D050FE67EF0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id re0D1gqdblhE for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77666E66BFB for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.211.88]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBEFuaK002393 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:15:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 961 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message , Bruce Goatly > writes > >know that I've converted RO to PS in the past because my PC has some > >fonts on it > The RISC OS printer driver converts RISC OS fonts to PostScript. > Converting fonts to PostScript is not difficult, OP for Windows has to > do it. > One route must be, print font to PostScript, find tool that extracts > fonts from PostScript - this latter tool can be on Windows/Linux/Mac, so > a lot of scope. I have no idea how to print a Font to Postscript on RO, so some tips on this would be very helpful. This 'latter tool' exists on my Linux Ubuntu box, FontForge, but to be honest I find it a rather trivial tool that again, hardly ever comes up with the goods. > This subject has come up before. ISTR someone having a copy of of Dr. > Fonty that does the job, and Dave Symes having a copy that won't. In > other words looking at the list archives may help. AFAICR. It was me, again on Fay's behalf, but we were attempting to get a Tt converted for RO. I could be wrong, as my brain is mush ATM. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 14:59:14 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZkd5-1F9Vbs-04-Cfw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:59:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZkd5-1F9Vbs-04-Cfw; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:43:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZkd5-1F9Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:43:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZkd2-0007Cg-44 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:43:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B6B2E68101; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323614626; bh=GVARc+HkSkhzzMkMXY8oAnWF/UNF8QUh5paHK/qd W7w=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=YHwXcV kXvdFzM58Lg/s/aS52Lgk9x8U34PgujR4Tkn/EcHfS0kPnh//XpMEeLOEa2nDbiD+Qr stJ7/3Jw20kD8ifW01ayX2OzCOKTf0fI1WpyHViJ3BkxTMXnPkzddZEqM1VUHOO5R7F 1v8OmWE9635MVziJkJ2RfKOFNmQ3DH0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CH9QJ5GuXznV; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F801E66CE9; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323614625; bh=GVARc+HkSkhzzMkMXY8oAnWF/UNF8QUh5paHK/qd W7w=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=g/3cgu d1i2o7EOtjj/KgT/CZHmBJGEF+oWpnK/vRUfXtQxAEYGQ1dHOfgevwctrMwJPCxlmHO M0VbWPPly/BeSWmhWz6GJ8A8yfVhKIyQcogpPqKa+hVvx90BT+g+oZIM9nr7U6MV8kG EDggujMiYqeYFmo2bkO5HzsHTmqu3YQ= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE566E67F39 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YHYjW6tPTxGg for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81F69E66CE9 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.211.88]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBEhGnD003125 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:43:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:43:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <523ff50425dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 962 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Thanks for your input folks, the search can be put to bed. As well as here, I asked the question among friends on a PSP Newsgroup and someone recognised the PC side font. 'Inland Becker Shadow-Medium'. So when I get around to it, I'll map the Win OvPro with Hayleys and Becker. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 14:59:16 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZkfF-1IpVbs-04-Cdm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZkfF-1IpVbs-04-Cdm; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:46:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZkfF-1IpVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:46:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZkfB-0007Ls-RU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6793E68157; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323614759; bh=bvTks1/k4eqavroPsAa1CzAonM9NScpgDiC20TZ9 +i0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=gSmSOb 2zQMB+LYpixe75tW5R4RvuYK4urtzqhaKVod04Zo6v15zmXII6TXo070bGOonNRBUuk MZ7OsuedYGjdIZDVT8FGu4wKpCpS7ztholaE6ui/2lyzEfNCnmWrn/YxULXkZ2IFSn4 wrsRDanC30oNTeAg45i3tvZB8umIqvI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VmHtDuFb6tUj; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73A25E65F16; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323614759; bh=bvTks1/k4eqavroPsAa1CzAonM9NScpgDiC20TZ9 +i0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=gSmSOb 2zQMB+LYpixe75tW5R4RvuYK4urtzqhaKVod04Zo6v15zmXII6TXo070bGOonNRBUuk MZ7OsuedYGjdIZDVT8FGu4wKpCpS7ztholaE6ui/2lyzEfNCnmWrn/YxULXkZ2IFSn4 wrsRDanC30oNTeAg45i3tvZB8umIqvI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DFB4E67FE8 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84+gCu6xm8Io for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C77C6E65F16 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from AMD2. ([91.85.37.246]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBEjV8h003206 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:45:31 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <523ff51537riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <523ff1ed78dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk> <523ff1ed78dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 963 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <523ff1ed78dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <523fea7c3eriscos@mdharding.org.uk>, > M Harding wrote: > [Snip] > > It's on iSV's Typography CD. Hayley is there and the variant > > Hayleys. So . . . is that name a clue as to which TT font it > > resembles? > [Snip] > FWIW. Michael, the name searched returns a lot of rubbish, but not > what I'm looking for. I did a quick look too and failed. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7AE29E68181 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZkkM-0006aV-Q1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:51:22 +0000 Message-ID: <8665697AED3349B983AA169C599BD890@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff50425dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:50:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZkkM-0006aV-Q1 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 964 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Dave Symes wrote: > Thanks for your input folks, the search can be put to bed. > > As well as here, I asked the question among friends on a PSP Newsgroup and > someone recognised the PC side font. 'Inland Becker Shadow-Medium'. > > So when I get around to it, I'll map the Win OvPro with Hayleys and > Becker. I'm glad you found it, because I was just about to give up, having prepared a PostScript files and a PDF containing all the characters in all six fonts but having failed to extract the fonts themselves. There are a wealth of converters out there (as David said) but I got a bit lost... -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 15:29:15 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZlG2-0DFVbs-07-C2z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:29:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZlG2-0DFVbs-07-C2z; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:24:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZlG2-0DFVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:24:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZlG0-0005xq-Q8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:24:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3C4AE688D5; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323617043; bh=sVC9pXZfyInQMcpiDSuWTJOspbtHyUH1Y/2DEilP fnM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=YJNDxzjI52cTixurKtvsiJ+3S3g6J9ccGY3ZzzJRXi5AA+SEFx mOYCXnBZolpguDpcMVxsFDNxi5O8jNaJEAlMOhtvdMdHGpg/8L2Vh3gWX28zfMYGvaA e7Ewduf88GDSZjQlUXmKeLDc+cpj+zJF5aTjiTkUagZKsccQxNzrbc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PY7a-zsh7sLX; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73969E688AE; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:23:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323617043; bh=sVC9pXZfyInQMcpiDSuWTJOspbtHyUH1Y/2DEilP fnM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=YJNDxzjI52cTixurKtvsiJ+3S3g6J9ccGY3ZzzJRXi5AA+SEFx mOYCXnBZolpguDpcMVxsFDNxi5O8jNaJEAlMOhtvdMdHGpg/8L2Vh3gWX28zfMYGvaA e7Ewduf88GDSZjQlUXmKeLDc+cpj+zJF5aTjiTkUagZKsccQxNzrbc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:23:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4BF92E688B5 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:23:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EsRD2OOIGTei for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5172E688AE for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZlFk-0006pL-dL for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:23:48 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:23:06 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 965 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >I have no idea how to print a Font to Postscript on RO, so some tips on >this would be very helpful. Create a document that contains all the characters, or the ones you're interested in: 123...ABCDEF...abc.. select a PostScript printer driver, and print to file. Result PS file with font in. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 17:59:20 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZndK-2csGPo-05-9fh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:59:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZndK-2csGPo-05-9fh; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZndK-2csGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZndJ-0001Jh-9N for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6E005E68696; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323626175; bh=hdgCuYRPJisIJbOVlWzJLmQqEwpsJmpi5rpSoZVE EFk=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Nzkcg/ fy5dIWUrXtWm3zg3lHRnGatHeayMexstN/1cGYInZtVdKTgnbHknSItEyis++cD9Zt0 uldjVclWQ51HZedcs3z86XD+XBSm/PC5g9HjPGwcFA2QrLc4ov10G2BvoIM3ZDCsX+x 2nJkAdjxuuJpNThs1eJvvDj0XojtbJs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mk9OwaffFWvl; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0CEAAE6844C; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323626174; bh=hdgCuYRPJisIJbOVlWzJLmQqEwpsJmpi5rpSoZVE EFk=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=JUnC2f ZWHvjS5k0m5Z4cgGQk5VJt8z1h4IEx8XbOnHoPBPteXLxGZkbQkPZEa1+47EJ0WxRcK 2rUaS7cyqmsbQaEsFEAvtE0W/pKFRcWjEODWjkFHldr6l/dCEWtjv7DLPgizrvdF+1m X2icZKlPN51zmzYMOEI6NafXdvt4JJU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BF6FBE68679 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IecVLtyWdIZs for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28F46E68657 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.177.97]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBHttHQ008364 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:55:59 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:55:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <5240069115dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8665697AED3349B983AA169C599BD890@Shuttle> References: <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff50425dave@triffid.co.uk> <8665697AED3349B983AA169C599BD890@Shuttle> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 966 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <8665697AED3349B983AA169C599BD890@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly wrote: > Dave Symes wrote: > > Thanks for your input folks, the search can be put to bed. > > As well as here, I asked the question among friends on a PSP Newsgroup > > and someone recognised the PC side font. 'Inland Becker Shadow-Medium'. > > > > So when I get around to it, I'll map the Win OvPro with Hayleys and > > Becker. > I'm glad you found it, because I was just about to give up, having > prepared a PostScript files and a PDF containing all the characters in > all six fonts but having failed to extract the fonts themselves. There > are a wealth of converters out there (as David said) but I got a bit > lost... Well, I appreciate your efforts Bruce, thanks. Someone on one of the many PSP NGs I'm in, posted me a useful URL, which I think other multi-OS Ovation Pro users might find useful. http://new.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 17:59:20 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZndP-1msGPo-01-9fc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:59:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZndP-1msGPo-01-9fc; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZndP-1msGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZndL-0001WX-I5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:56:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 687F9E686B4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323626176; bh=q1OkJaVcb8tRtCr3ygO9VIfMu5NP80toO45Rejnl KrQ=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=miOqbN 3zM+gDFhG2CVNdEiaJEORMltkIA3GUDTQpjkZfOGbYQMZthiFok//LGpzXWRvE1kajL kbRtlr3HWeHV5BMSSHlLCCqzYHQ6YyXvkCSx4PsQa8e+NnUpldM0RlP2vCvQOvrdibl 4GxDhDVQiThxdqcR0WzHK93cdA3/NfI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bzEMUailRgFt; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D2EEE6846F; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323626174; bh=q1OkJaVcb8tRtCr3ygO9VIfMu5NP80toO45Rejnl KrQ=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=AIEnjU rN4Ulwi1Ttbj01kjvLKt7HLFeLWtrPnMiZp7YiTDjvfKp7aL+ju80ESMjzAhTC1gQHI 77CS3n8cc23bITJG6qCQfzmWeMY6Mie2W1M0MAsZn4U1CYvyA/Gj7VLgrDglfnsRYWw Qrse6JacLT3CTDSo1tbzLrukHNMEEsI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BF329E6865B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sTxN7Ao8kOx0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1E725E68647 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.177.97]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBHttHO008364 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:55:56 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:50:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <5240062a7fdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >I have no idea how to print a Font to Postscript on RO, so some tips on > >this would be very helpful. > Create a document that contains all the characters, or the ones you're > interested in: > 123...ABCDEF...abc.. > select a PostScript printer driver, and print to file. Result PS file > with font in. Thanks, I must have a play sometime. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 18:14:20 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZnjP-2s1GPo-04-9Zc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:14:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZnjP-2s1GPo-04-9Zc; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZnjP-2s1GPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZnjK-0000k8-Gx for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 69136E66E3E; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:02:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F3FBE66DAB for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZnjP-0008KG-QC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:35 +0000 Message-ID: <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZnjP-0008KG-QC X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 967 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling David Pilling wrote: > select a PostScript printer driver, and print to file. Result PS file > with font in. Indeed - but getting the font out in usable form was what stumped me... -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 21:13:48 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZqdS-2C5000-07-FC5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:13:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZqdS-2C5000-07-FC5; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:08:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZqdS-2C5000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:08:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZqdR-0000am-56 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:08:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81A0AE68831; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323637715; bh=FIF+pmpOtaeVclk2WJ0CDYMFPF/2nRw0XAzVSo+A 2b0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=HKiQNOH9EulL+QzKHCzoiRWb3/s4ps1zxeLulnuCEk4fN2POAK 1perNuT8ccvjnaTo/hceSCS9uj2oz194HCFMf1aO1ccCpCt7Vz/N8vZfc2iwZv6XRLx ER6zrfkLPDgWFjk7kQmsrJqliWcxPRkD5wqPLmsUvZyIX5IPeO65og= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e1KLSVpdKI71; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BCBB4E68238; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323637714; bh=FIF+pmpOtaeVclk2WJ0CDYMFPF/2nRw0XAzVSo+A 2b0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Qss+C6/fVb+arTdud+iKAi5zKe6za/E/HteU9ZVRDX7tKBOXIS Wcal4fUVDohJd+I20Raawu/uBcPYMMo9L9Joh27Wnp5BpmUeN17OEBbScqrWL9BswsX SgDivgh1zBAh/URk6np4zbIdDhgDUh7ig5UpVHThZX4jUNPKZ32eo4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8CA4DE68809 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id agAb9pcNpdYE for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 69FCBE68238 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.177.97]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBL8FRb013536 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:08:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:07:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Fonts again Message-ID: <5240183174dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> In-Reply-To: <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 968 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly wrote: > David Pilling wrote: > > select a PostScript printer driver, and print to file. Result PS file > > with font in. > Indeed - but getting the font out in usable form was what stumped me... Yes, I did that myself recently, but nothing I've used will extract the font, not even FontForge (Ubuntu). Dave As an aside to all this, does anyone in the Universe have a copy of Dr Fonty that'll actually do something useful with regard to PS output? The version I have here (1.44) will not on RO 4.39 nor on 6.20 BTW. It's a legit copy with a serial number. D. -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 21:43:48 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZr8P-1wPVbs-03-Eh8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:43:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZr8P-1wPVbs-03-Eh8; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:40:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZr8P-1wPVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:40:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZr8D-0004Do-9C for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:40:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C62CBE6885C; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:40:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323639602; bh=81xD3qHC2r+shaQU4cdgJV3BXT/WauE/zQeMnnuy 9+0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=FcJ+03oAhsSo3n5OhWbKFyWvaRcnPcRmEM910Rr1Y/E9hV1b6I vpFr9gOn/Nh+F19fuRPGi0t85UO8W7Bqnp5UjKcYJ9l7bIE8tOooC7al1vLBFnlVi2n 719EdhF22p4MS02pgZyD4pKF9F/9TN4G5z4BqI0RxNfjZ6AcNa2F4w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1N-RwV-dEjVV; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82254E66CCD; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:39:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323639602; bh=81xD3qHC2r+shaQU4cdgJV3BXT/WauE/zQeMnnuy 9+0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=FcJ+03oAhsSo3n5OhWbKFyWvaRcnPcRmEM910Rr1Y/E9hV1b6I vpFr9gOn/Nh+F19fuRPGi0t85UO8W7Bqnp5UjKcYJ9l7bIE8tOooC7al1vLBFnlVi2n 719EdhF22p4MS02pgZyD4pKF9F/9TN4G5z4BqI0RxNfjZ6AcNa2F4w= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:39:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C009E66CC9 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:39:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d2XwpH8f+E-y for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94315E6829A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RZr6z-00018W-fC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:37:56 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> In-Reply-To: <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 969 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly writes >David Pilling wrote: > >> select a PostScript printer driver, and print to file. Result PS file >> with font in. > >Indeed - but getting the font out in usable form was what stumped me... I observe that there is a module called MakePSFont inside the PS printer driver and the PS printer driver uses this to produce its fonts. Now there does not seem to be a *command, but you'd think someone would have stuck an interface on this to just produce fonts. As to the PostScript, one can see the fonts - something like %%Begin Font, the actual font is the RO_ one. The RK will be to do with kerned version. I suspect someone reading this knows if this is pointless speculation... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Dec 11 22:43:50 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RZrwQ-1VJGPo-08-Dt7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:43:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RZrwQ-1VJGPo-08-Dt7; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:32:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RZrwQ-1VJGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:32:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RZrwK-0004ts-BO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:32:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4CC5CE66D9A; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323642731; bh=xjhtMVRckiPxoIPMc9VnfvyAcQ+a6wZmJ2APod+1 yds=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Uq5F+Ogzcq4qZHnjK78nsl973xdlM OB8RiWWh+1la/zA7LEqXqgVbHnhp2C1HtVnaJTb77daUbl5u13B355AIu4pOIw7oHeQ 7tD6J7Iggncf8Iy34u266WRdVKHJNmW+FtATjJ+YEJ/v0JZgIGUWTVulCJLmcNkD9cW 2lZpPu3A= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0a7028gbtgKf; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DED56E66CB8; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:31:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1323642730; bh=xjhtMVRckiPxoIPMc9VnfvyAcQ+a6wZmJ2APod+1 yds=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=oCrpUiGq1ESPjZewfdrUoJfburDFZ SIoNlUcFeLpPqtdx6qu6RAAzSsRJ1dbmYS2u5yZV6QIn9PECPV843yEuNYLomYRV5Mk A6BgHETwQHcqA7IIqnDFjacnFELpJrhkXdl35cBvz5rJPEj1RX2v2FelFL4xjgfQEXR nEKFrAvU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:31:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4A3DE66D16 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:31:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9kjy9MJxV7-9 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1DF5EE66CB8 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.177.97]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBMVmqh015756 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:31:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:31:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Fonts again Message-ID: <52401fdb1cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 970 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Just a thanks to everyone who contributed to the conversation. Appreciated your input. Dave An interesting PS to this saga... Aside from the actual matching Tt font, I found five others that were vaguely similar, and so using effTTT I converted them for RO use. They all converted okay and unstalled in ...Resources.!Fonts, but three of the conversions were useless as half the characters were missing (They are all there on the PC Tt version). Far worse, two of the dodgy three were so bad they corrupted the Font cache, and it wasn't until I did a cold boot that I got rid of the corruption. What fun we all have here! 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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from server6.spellings.net (server6.spellings.net [178.239.166.75]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 10A67E66F8D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust32.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([82.44.44.33] helo=Shuttle) by server6.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZugl-0007Cd-QN for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:28:19 +0000 Message-ID: <90D64010AA8C48E0ACDF77AE8A6CE994@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> <5240183174dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:27:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1RZugl-0007Cd-QN X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server6.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 971 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Dave Symes wrote: > As an aside to all this, does anyone in the Universe have a copy of Dr > Fonty that'll actually do something useful with regard to PS output? > > The version I have here (1.44) will not on RO 4.39 nor on 6.20 > > BTW. It's a legit copy with a serial number. I have FontFiend (also from iSV), which seems to save simple RO fonts to PostScript, but the bowls of letters such as b and o fill in. I think I need to check a winding rule option somewhere. My copy of Dr Fonty (version 1.12, from 1998!) doesn't save PostScript at all. -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 17 17:45:03 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RbyHO-18Iknw-02-BPt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:45:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RbyHO-18Iknw-02-BPt; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RbyHO-18Iknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RbyHN-0006xV-D1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25022E695E8; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324143755; bh=h+qV4gXQUcFA46r1xZUd4ssMQFlwEDs+lFP3Pxjh RBk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=mGXlgj7I/qckSLWl5vdTBagRuHXYW 2XB8nJ6zqq4cFUIUbtQzyt2NU8/fhF/wB/dBVdK/YQC43v9PqBEAhItVWFZOoldXqFL r9mXbEI4VSEP4vsDbhZaC6owdk1qlY+sEdxMEZfxDx+oPBqyxXn/5w13g/ZQr2wKyyJ U9vX1RWE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QvjKB8KbI4S8; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9BA93E69550; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324143754; bh=h+qV4gXQUcFA46r1xZUd4ssMQFlwEDs+lFP3Pxjh RBk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=lYsKSGaNmuOl3hTywAtc2DN8RL5l+ /y/jyfTxcUfO1BsH/C1BBzzP7TR3N4HvhSYqK1+DwIbFnEaorp0ZarSdXxPjLpgnIBX T4wYucMkEDZToP+9adoGV5vN52OebYoMyujZO7c6N1oWjAO/+zJX1mxz1JsAzaS490Q OGhcBYiA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7191CE6955F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SO5nMd4gpupb for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E04FBE69550 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RbyH5-0006hN-kU for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:12 +0000 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Windows 7 junction points MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 972 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, Windows 7 has been an irritation to me, today I found this web page: http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm which explains what "junction points" are. This is partly to do with folders having moved on W7 and partly why there are folder like objects which W7 won't let you access. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 19 12:31:10 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RcavZ-3p7000-03-FOI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:31:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RcavZ-3p7000-03-FOI; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:58:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RcavZ-3p7000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:58:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RcavY-0003yb-Df for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:58:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EED44E6A25F; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324292319; bh=nPg46bnfhZr8HG2nXxLp187e04TKbUUOFWvHS+La q7g=; h=In-Reply-To:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID: From:Date:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=kpvBEp 6NDYLExCo/xhg43V8lZFjMUoxoeaTD81RGqvaN+rYy2hQhWRUS3BgXIGyt5Ic5Tvy0u yD0ymYyUFMjUbA7ChSvPTPxg5Zq75EVUF+NVgtuEUfPwprF2avnGptu2ptqLz+4E83H ZRiRV9YVM0Ud/flofbQ/2y+f9PuTQMI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r82oHjmb7U8W; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85D40E683FA; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324292318; bh=nPg46bnfhZr8HG2nXxLp187e04TKbUUOFWvHS+La q7g=; h=In-Reply-To:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID: From:Date:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=pcVvaa uGWquzovxdvlhNmUYyT464ADT24PrpiLKpkjqYGsMq8/GZW84CPDdPMszSyKAhH+mg5 i1r/y4jt9KMlPZitjqXwtlWTjRfMR9HAQf4VF3lvoj8e9kuHJUr+2kdyfQSUmaAybY2 YIVw/VM0aM3AtxLBwbYgBbXctsGMJQk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 587DFE687B0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zikSex5DsGij for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from websrv.quantel.com (websrv.quantel.com [195.12.20.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94FE1E683FA for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:58:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Windows 7 junction points MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:58:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-archive-position: 973 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: andy.ling@quantel.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org wrote on 17/12/2011 17:42:12: > Windows 7 has been an irritation to me, today I found this web page: > > http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm > And what was wrong with hard and soft links in Unix? :^) Another annoyance I found.... A program had saved some data somewhere. When opening the file viewer in the program is showed it to be in "Program Files\something.." But looking in the Program Files folder showed no sign of the data I wanted. It turns out that to stop rogue programs messing with Program Files there is a virtual file system that sits on top of it. If you look in C:\Users\\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86) You will find stuff that would normally have been in Program Files. Andy Ling -- This e-mail is intended for the named addressees only. Its contents may be privileged or confidential and should be treated as such. If you are not an intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete it; do not copy, distribute, or take any action based on this e-mail. In the pursuit of its legitimate business activities and its conformance with relevant legislation, Quantel may access any e-mail (including attachments) it originates or receives, for potential scrutiny. 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Registered address: Turnpike Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2NX, United Kingdom To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 19 12:45:52 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RccSM-1AbGPo-03-DrV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:45:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RccSM-1AbGPo-03-DrV; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:36:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RccSM-1AbGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:36:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RccSJ-0003We-0w for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:36:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49E76E6A52C; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324298192; bh=MOcLrI1MlaOseyzkO0K55/FSY3Zf0Ks1Gd8ouO+3 iQE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=tYju+rwU9UbkuwXWxO+WKxoOv4sBIZtku/Iux18FJVDHAPYq7S Iy+BjMSUZQtjae8Hhf0/v04yT/e1dvbkvMK5coK9gyR0B2S0mCYfKmoT43qur2HdJM3 HGQS8Y+CMVPOdM4xw1ExHRs6aCyzgb+BbH1EYF8SvZLea72dSp0vDE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Crg9wXP1uXlL; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D7A9E6A337; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324298191; bh=MOcLrI1MlaOseyzkO0K55/FSY3Zf0Ks1Gd8ouO+3 iQE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=SUbWYQHqKcsfDDPgfhkAvXgt2X17qwC7+Ngy1J/eH6vC8ZgZh7 u8Uwso2FBrTs4p/umxqfZOFYEUfqCR4iJtKCoZqLDs3Giw9ljim6GeZPFZZz4+tENg+ OFGU4S6qEsTbZTBZ01LcAc4ZnMEBard7wze+k0oCCUC1K9kHJ+4LwM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:18 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1CDACE6A357 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9R+N6gTT9d7n for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 809A3E6A337 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RccS0-0000FV-hy for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:36:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:35:08 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Windows 7 junction points References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 974 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message , andy.ling@quantel.com writes >And what was wrong with hard and soft links in Unix? :^) I assumed these junction points were Windows shortcuts (or whatever the links/aliases are called). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 19 13:00:52 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RccgA-2uIVbs-01-Ddh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:00:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RccgA-2uIVbs-01-Ddh; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:50:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RccgA-2uIVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:50:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Rccg4-0003Y1-L6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:50:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E3D5E64546; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324299046; bh=5NQ2TcF8MJtBmdNDX9BXJPMmuNF5XbAJVc0v3/DU iKw=; h=In-Reply-To:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID: From:Date:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=flNNZ2 FICj52gHF35YS05jYfaUYA9Brp9hYepq0IyBeIJzVf2J5810TOVViPhRQg014lnmFbf +ngEMGyUsbqrszvdAkYQXP+vaUHLryCqLZOV7RDZ5w91nKHkSgk0/7dpiKHGP7Zomyo a9IlguPtF8iovdVoy2JKz4Y+gOGq1mg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y9229F+iKuWW; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 39F6EE67BB5; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324299045; bh=5NQ2TcF8MJtBmdNDX9BXJPMmuNF5XbAJVc0v3/DU iKw=; h=In-Reply-To:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID: From:Date:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=w3aIqN Uj2Jbmn/YUptORhwpTI6q7IrscBpZRls7QCubDba9qCo3Prxx51WcdUv52Dam8sCKfa WHpzx37KD0ivuNR9DMBK8XcWb94NPQlE6wCV2eRv8/KONXNGCFK3pvL+q54a1XU2qxC 2RUsR39rrOD60Nz+7qWtHl+Jv1QMai4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 160C7E6A3B0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DtvNJVgN0wfM for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from websrv.quantel.com (websrv.quantel.com [195.12.20.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55E62E67BB5 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:50:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Windows 7 junction points MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:44:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-archive-position: 975 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: andy.ling@quantel.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org wrote on 19/12/2011 12:35:08: > In message > , > andy.ling@quantel.com writes > >And what was wrong with hard and soft links in Unix? :^) > > I assumed these junction points were Windows shortcuts (or whatever the > links/aliases are called). > I think they are, sort of. But they seem to have some special properties. And shortcuts never seem to work quite right. There seem to be times when they give you what they point at and times when they don't. And now they've introduced Libraries, which is yet another layer to get in the way. I just wish they had implemented the predictable behaviour of Unix links. Andy Ling -- This e-mail is intended for the named addressees only. Its contents may be privileged or confidential and should be treated as such. If you are not an intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete it; do not copy, distribute, or take any action based on this e-mail. In the pursuit of its legitimate business activities and its conformance with relevant legislation, Quantel may access any e-mail (including attachments) it originates or receives, for potential scrutiny. Quantel is the trade name used by Quantel Holdings Limited and its subsidiaries. Quantel Holdings Limited is registered in England & Wales. 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Registered address: Turnpike Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2NX, United Kingdom To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Dec 22 12:05:30 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RdgQA-2JLGPo-08-G5p.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:05:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RdgQA-2JLGPo-08-G5p; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RdgQA-2JLGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RdgQ9-00063c-QE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0CCA4E70DC6; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324551764; bh=lW5jhgpeIoqSc0Rno8unmI8B7as8CxROByWUhRVe JLY=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=fa+XiXMYKR/j4AYOcQioxQffXR+Y2 uIsvISZklBharfmCwBmDIMYXVv9+Y8VjI8M6g82vUghSoLVhjsGCWq68ccUOBh8wkVB udzonlsba1EjDnMP1rRNaK3lzi1hnXjYj5cVkilINvmoTxE2tYT/o8pyZMyuEO8tfqw q0r8O5NY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NwwfKp6+yqAU; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79A68E709FC; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324551763; bh=lW5jhgpeIoqSc0Rno8unmI8B7as8CxROByWUhRVe JLY=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Z7AQ7JzmjGLjJqxXDTRQNXQOWuMgT e7hdxnpcZl8xHlTpWiV54CzLMXsN/JcC4XQO+vbKjfjWcQkK9qO8RAZ5PPF1D3JcJez Nz/Vo4plNhHMmz9mTvLhrzKTPfXRnFKoC6OiNCLyZSoG8HQqiH/1JYvtPd4yRsp2tw1 /dDXvI98= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:30 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 472FFE70D63 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jwp2QmbBGhj7 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E804AE709FC for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdgPr-0008RC-Ae for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:27 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro script language functions (RISC OS ) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:18 GMT Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 976 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, and a happy Christmas to all, I'm currently writing an applet that stores data within the document using the the Document Tagged Data Manager functions. Is there function or a reliable way to flag that the document has been modified from an applet? I want to make it clear that the document has not been saved since the tags were stored in the document. I thought of inserting some text using type() then deleting it but there's no way to guarantee that the caret is in a text frame. Any other thoughts how to do this? Gavin. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Dec 22 14:50:06 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RdjvI-4HI000-06-Cah.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:50:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RdjvI-4HI000-06-Cah; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:47:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RdjvI-4HI000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:47:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Rdjv9-0002W0-Hv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:47:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C7D5E71197; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324565215; bh=tsaQBBbCLLMiFdp3HF+lmZA2PCqhYsuqUshbQePb QQM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=sS4G+smYRFMtUrZQzbePJ6JR42B2rB8Nh2avl3f0HPqASHqouU 5fSr29q6FRXxqGEwHA4bJGsIHBan/azeJ8L/r2Uhg4I3jgsIttlNOjE7S9xiJiFtIl8 IAWJXMnyk7mN8vvqBZTJMmhdB3yA0tQ0955WtnmVHlpmq6cIT47IUA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zx0SPE9hNwVa; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E089E70EA2; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:41 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324565213; bh=tsaQBBbCLLMiFdp3HF+lmZA2PCqhYsuqUshbQePb QQM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nj0cXDhztl5BZBqoZWd7+VDVhGVG5I9An1I+/qreirTO/RqQEU yqJichFvbNJte81JShyXrBYPcxEH5cpF+8/7EehScASDD25w9DRL6e43KBMVQfmPaSq 94sGxPQBY/51/GbMALrdt7mhcOHkKdM5Cy9x7nFkl+f06rdq2TMDVs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F18B5E71134 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:40 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RwD-vc97RVKO for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 68623E70EA2 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Rdjuo-0005lj-aD for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:46:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:45:52 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro script language functions (RISC OS ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 977 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message , Gavin Crawford writes >Is there function or a reliable way to flag that the document has been >modified from an applet? I want to make it clear that the document has >not been saved since the tags were stored in the document. Ideally a trivial change or a change that can be reversed or a change that actually is not a change. I will have worked to remove a lot of these. You're almost looking for a bug or an error to exploit. Easier for applets written in code where there is a modified() function to call. I've looked at my script function manual and nothing springs to mind. I will think and look further, more later... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Dec 22 16:35:08 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RdlQ4-1q2000-07-B5v.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:35:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RdlQ4-1q2000-07-B5v; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:23:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RdlQ4-1q2000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:23:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RdlQ3-00010g-3e for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:23:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 994A7E7120D; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324570977; bh=rUlfFcYmyzUNoZN8e1cXpLgIVf6HpcI7JGvyVGc3 xjo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=h7KL+GA8mR/wySZQKjNNdcH7FbBnKri/v7kuvjr0Y2gnl/yynZ 0TLXb4y0TRiC7dfk67YLBzX7SLZ73C/CnzYbo/JFaXGeoP7wur5+548+g9vI7jB7fAJ btR4z8MtIf9CTzPNu0IMP7xNGnRBh/D8w3R7Zs7rr9OSJ7aS3wRhTs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OQoJQRtDfM4E; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E4D6BE710F5; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324570976; bh=rUlfFcYmyzUNoZN8e1cXpLgIVf6HpcI7JGvyVGc3 xjo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=oEL6H3YX1X5ngrvyF0TX1ImuyIa4/WehzfynKszvoH0wvtDwQB XeDsoPgEK8KdfN1jjxcuESjHxjyfl3MKPyoU866wEAQMWxs/pnMnvR5xOnreXbzToVD XYOWj8dx8I4TCl2Ev5Z38zXxZ8CCSRcRPTRjHEaTU/hiSW1yeDflT0= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6EC1E71110 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R+oIRTK7IP9C for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E5CBE710F5 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1RdlPh-00028w-bY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:22:42 +0000 Message-ID: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:21:29 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro script language functions (RISC OS ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 978 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, >I will think and look further, more later... I am thinking of giving up and adding a function. Maybe executing some DDL - some DDL that does nothing much. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bach (95-89-129-134-dynip.superkabel.de [95.89.129.134]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LwmVg-1Qc2UM2Emm-016zJ1; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:05:15 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again To: From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <5B1FF9B1BBEB4D7F92E14C19968B5E59@Shuttle> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <573DE293D7A94F66A9D4F34FE8CD6E38@Shuttle> <5240183174dave@triffid.co.uk> <90D64010AA8C48E0ACDF77AE8A6CE994@Shuttle> In-Reply-To: <90D64010AA8C48E0ACDF77AE8A6CE994@Shuttle> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.03 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:E48delMXjWnZ3YR5TNpwZEESzVrk9iFY4uIBRbwo5cO HoX0yd9OGlkzxjzWvJZvmo5zWcPjA0QXAGgUDQVMBNfO20IFQQ v+a4X25LN81sEowwkv1p+blB8nDdzsTCCQYt+gByzMJa+wd3+9 TGFINWJEnXN0ohJLUMGyB1x5ivEooFvJ53nVjOL4vqGf0d/uCw 1dUT0wkHxFXxotrvakQRzfvt9MrPV2Srxp3xV5APekU0J4okKG r0RldZRjxmUSQBmUWO7JpOF/trFB6HQfVhalfDkGrvsVuv/5HB CQvFFZb8MRTPBcejL3lq12NCGF66ptA6GFEk4e+uXyu1L797c5 U4nI7vUqZqn9dwkWSK9M= X-archive-position: 979 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message <90D64010AA8C48E0ACDF77AE8A6CE994@Shuttle> "Bruce Goatly" wrote: > Dave Symes wrote: >> As an aside to all this, does anyone in the Universe have a copy of Dr >> Fonty that'll actually do something useful with regard to PS output? >> >> The version I have here (1.44) will not on RO 4.39 nor on 6.20 >> >> BTW. It's a legit copy with a serial number. > I have FontFiend (also from iSV), which seems to save simple RO fonts to > PostScript, but the bowls of letters such as b and o fill in. I think > I need to check a winding rule option somewhere. I doubt it is as simple as checking a winding rule option. RISC OS fonts can use an even-odd or a non-zero winding rule. Non-zero is simple because that is what PostScript Type1 expects, but if the RISC OS font uses an even-odd winding rule, then it needs to be converted from even-odd to non-zero, and that is a difficult problem because the non-zero winding rule is sensitive to subpath direction. Your description above suggests that FontFiend does not know how to do this conversion correctly. The PostScript 3 driver gets this right, but it was a major effort to write that code. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hel.is.scarlet.be (hel.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1630E70A22 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:21:26 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1324574484; bh=JxOp6bjS6W0gKBbeJVCaRJWTHM0TW98FeJQEYiMopgY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TF7gjT7m6UKrWin1Yssskv3z8uDE6hsbzzYmnkUL1DnZBY+I7sAAJutJziUPv3IPP AZBFf7ddBy2qg4tvmTWJhUGCTpZpO4NmYXJ8pl9mBVJpcoU4mpcKSNOO5tbMsXbAv3 obtvE3AUM6aHE0X4K3cILiIwX9iq/BBj6Xl6uVJY= Received: from hobbes (ip-83-134-175-40.dsl.scarlet.be [83.134.175.40]) by hel.is.scarlet.be (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBMHLNSp016735 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:21:24 +0100 X-Scarlet: d=1324574484 c=83.134.175.40 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:39:26 GMT From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <5240183174dave@triffid.co.uk> <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com> X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.21) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20002; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1-exp at hel X-Virus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 980 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com> you wrote: > I doubt it is as simple as checking a winding rule option. RISC OS > fonts can use an even-odd or a non-zero winding rule. Non-zero is > simple because that is what PostScript Type1 expects, but if the RISC > OS font uses an even-odd winding rule, then it needs to be converted > from even-odd to non-zero, and that is a difficult problem because the > non-zero winding rule is sensitive to subpath direction. > > Your description above suggests that FontFiend does not know how to do > this conversion correctly. The PostScript 3 driver gets this right, > but it was a major effort to write that code. A small correction: the only path/winding rules a Type 1 font needs to follow are: 1. An outer subpath needs to be clockwise winded, an inner subpath counterclockwise. 2. Paths may not intersect nor self intersect. A consequence of this that a Type 1 font can be rendered winding rule agnostic wise (as non-zero or even-odd winding result in the same rendering). And yes, RISC OS fonts are not following the same rules so converting a RISC OS font to a valid Type 1 font is non-trival. John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Dec 22 17:35:10 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RdmNs-0gTVbs-05-A87.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:35:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RdmNs-0gTVbs-05-A87; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RdmNs-0gTVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RdmNo-00047w-He for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4EC61E712BA; 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Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 42B5DE712A7 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D622244; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.gradwell.com (HELO [10.0.0.190]) (212.11.70.4) (smtp-auth username postmaster%pop3.dentrassis.com, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:21 +0000 References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Gav Crawford Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro script language functions (RISC OS ) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:24:13 +0000 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4ef367c6.52-66fe-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: postmaster@pop3.dentrassis.com X-archive-position: 981 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 22 Dec 2011, at 04:21 PM, David Pilling wrote= : > Hi, >=20 >> I will think and look further, more later... >=20 > I am thinking of giving up and adding a function. >=20 > Maybe executing some DDL - some DDL that does nothing much. If you are adding a function, thus creating a new version of OPro can I also= suggest a function to remove tags from a document, as there only seems to b= e functions for adding, reading and checking they exist. Regarding the modify function, you could just alter the tag writing function= s to set the document as modified. Although a separate modify() function co= uld be useful. Also, one last request. Would it be possible for the openprintbox() function= to return the window handle of the print dialogue box? - that way an applet= can change settings such as page range etc. At the moment the function retu= rns void, so I'm not sure if changing the openprintbox() definition would br= eak anything? 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The PostScript 3 driver gets this right, >but it was a major effort to write that code. Can we use the PS level 3 driver to extract fonts? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from eir.is.scarlet.be (eir.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.27]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9BF4E711E0 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:53:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1324576428; bh=UP68Y/EQs4dHAVaTFjHda9roIRqg7DTuU5pCpz0w9bA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oplZChOkmunqWCN2Rrnzw33Tm0W4zsngABudNi/9WrFdiMxzg9PDn+GTyLXVjPSoQ pxA4ot1LWK6xVYlUNRumSL2KoBjMkaSiDeVkucYkWOM2Xjiez6M/K5FeTyRcbo1/7G 7inLCb9OFoVJN6jwG0ZfWgor4MSmf7vHNPw23y+8= Received: from hobbes (ip-83-134-175-40.dsl.scarlet.be [83.134.175.40]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBMHrlnG028223 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:53:48 +0100 X-Scarlet: d=1324576428 c=83.134.175.40 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:12:06 GMT From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Fonts again Message-ID: <2352b24552.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: <523f96f66adave@triffid.co.uk> <523fc6bed1dave@triffid.co.uk> <523ff28200dave@triffid.co.uk> <5240183174dave@triffid.co.uk> <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.21) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1-exp at eir X-Virus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 983 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In message you wrote: > In message <7530ac4552.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner > writes > >Your description above suggests that FontFiend does not know how to do > >this conversion correctly. The PostScript 3 driver gets this right, > >but it was a major effort to write that code. > > Can we use the PS level 3 driver to extract fonts? You can pretty easily extract the Type 1 font from the PS3 output code, yes (part between "%%BeginResource: font ..." and "%%EndResource"). That Type 1 font happens to be the full font and not just the glyphs used in the documented you've printed. However, that's an implementation detail, this could change in future versions. But note that when you print from applications (like NetSurf) which are using the FontManager via its Unicode API, you won't end up with a Type 1 font but with a CID one. Same technology but packaged differently as it much better suited to deal with large character set fonts. Also note this doesn't give you an AFM file either. John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 15:06:20 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Re6Vw-245000-08-FZb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:06:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Re6Vw-245000-08-FZb; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Re6Vw-245000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Re6Vp-0001bp-B1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E43C2E7153F; 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Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:53:55 GMT From: Clive Bonsall Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A3F05930-C593-4DFA-9691-42C5F7B8975A" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPW - insert options greyed out for Master Pages Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:53:50 +0000 In-Reply-To: <40A668A6-8234-4AD3-9DE5-7C7A3F2444BB@ed.ac.uk> To: David Pilling References: <3E1580EA-DE04-446F-9B47-133F1A804B4C@ed.ac.uk> <7+KbpWEBmI9OFwu$@pilling.demon.co.uk> <40A668A6-8234-4AD3-9DE5-7C7A3F2444BB@ed.ac.uk> Message-Id: <3ABBED60-C210-47CD-949A-82A1A6EC1826@ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at lmtp1.ucs.ed.ac.uk with MIMEDefang 2.52, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 129.215.149.64 --Apple-Mail=_A3F05930-C593-4DFA-9691-42C5F7B8975A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Hi again >> In message <3E1580EA-DE04-446F-9B47-133F1A804B4C@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsal= l writes >>> I'm trying to edit a Master Page in an old document, but I'm finding th= at the >>> options under Misc>Insert are greyed out. What could I have done to dis= able >>> this function? >>=20 >> By design you can't insert things in a master frame that autolinks. >>=20 >> Non-autolink chain master page frames can have text in, but then text ca= n't be added to the frames in the normal document that are based on them. >>=20 >> That seems the most likely explanation, let me know if it isn't the righ= t one. >=20 >=20 > The Master Page has two columns with an autolink between them, which I pr= esume was created automatically when I specified 2 columns in Page Guidelin= es, so that text can flow from one page to the next. >=20 > However, there are two other frames that I added to the Master Page for t= he header and footer - and these do not appear to be autolinked. I can edit= (e.g. insert page number) the footer frame, but not the header frame. The = only difference between the two additional frames is that the header frame = has a border.=20 Aha =85 I've just worked it out. The header frame already had some text in = it, which I added in the normal document. Removing that text allows text in= put in the Master Page view. Sorry. -- Clive Bonsall c.bonsall@ed.ac.uk --Apple-Mail=_A3F05930-C593-4DFA-9691-42C5F7B8975A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline
Hi again
In message <3E1580EA-DE04-446F-9B47-133F1A804B4C@ed.ac.uk>= ;, Clive Bonsall <c.bonsall@ed.ac.= uk> writes
I'm trying to edit a Master = Page in an old document, but I'm finding that the
options under Misc>Insert are greyed out. What could I = have done to disable
this functio= n?

By design you can't insert things in a master frame = that autolinks.

Non-autolink chain master page frames can have text = in, but then text can't be added to the frames in the normal document that = are based on them.

That seems the most likely explanation, let me kn= ow if it isn't the right one.


The Master Page has two columns with an autolink between them, which I p= resume was created automatically when I specified 2 columns in Page Guideli= nes, so that text can flow from one page to the next.

<= div>However, there are two other frames that I added to the Master Page for= the header and footer - and these do not appear to be autolinked. I can ed= it (e.g. insert page number) the footer frame, but not the header frame. Th= e only difference between the two additional frames is that the header fram= e has a border. 
Aha =85 I've j= ust worked it out. The header frame already had some text in it, which I ad= ded in the normal document. Removing that text allows text input in the Mas= ter Page view. Sorry.

--
Clive Bonsall
c.bonsall@ed.= ac.uk

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J. Willington" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 985 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: djw@argonet.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Just a quickie:- I have a RPC and a Win7 laptop. Most of my writing is still done using Ovation Pro on my RPC and saved on my laptop using VirtualRPC. I do it this way because my RPC is so much easier and faster than my laptop and the laptop is simply used as a backup for most documents I write. One day when my RPC finally dies I will hope to compose my Ovation Pro documents on my laptop (using Virtual PRC). However I notice I have an Ovation Pro file on my Windows machine too but it has never been registered (for =C2=A360 I think). Is it a current pro= duct of yours? Would it be worthwhile my registering it? Would I then be able to transfer my OvnPro documents from my RPC to my Windows version of OvnPro? Sorry this turned out to be more long-winded than I hoped. Yours, Dave Willington To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 17:51:23 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Re9Ao-4MTknw-04-Cuj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:51:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Re9Ao-4MTknw-04-Cuj; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:44:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Re9Ao-4MTknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:44:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Re9Ak-0002uD-71 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:44:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB769E7170D; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324662277; bh=GCoXlOC90O5KLcTdOgqf+cUMZVY1nird3kiz1hGN RNg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=kyLWbx8kh0yRwD3pKGVMNv+tO/m2P9B+LXrtMwin ziCfpcQFVskCHd4EeFLpefoWIAjdx+9voB00jbg8WhrTuemEqnlcW81RkYWKS075jWF 4gMDpXcKotxYbupwYgt2SuTZ3vJg7IIgldMwjoimiFQwWqC2ZoVc1gDkolsviqPA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ErcV+re4Cu4C; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2639E715F8; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324662276; bh=GCoXlOC90O5KLcTdOgqf+cUMZVY1nird3kiz1hGN RNg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=j0HYCF+rHkR+TkmK+wuGBNO6ZFLEO2AHtrR8cWaK vqbHkYPD3mCZAT6n5/iF+eZaBtkBSkQ4Y2tneAo0T7wWjjS7Pc8nHgHNRIrSrGiRrjL E9KAcYiDn1K3kqfYmXEcHv9XzMoLIAg/wVjnLufPDJWypHHpUqnHx/OUFSXbmPbA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A2F5CE71604 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id evUGkGhS0QJM for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CAFF8E715F8 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([82.153.139.193]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBNHiLOw000498 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:44:21 GMT Message-ID: <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:44:24 +0000 From: Tony Todd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-archive-position: 986 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tonytodd@appleshack.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/12/2011 17:09, D. J. Willington wrote: > David, > Just a quickie:- > I have a RPC and a Win7 laptop. Most of my writing is still done using > Ovation Pro on my RPC and saved on my laptop using VirtualRPC. I do it > this way because my RPC is so much easier and faster than my laptop and > the laptop is simply used as a backup for most documents I write. One d= ay > when my RPC finally dies I will hope to compose my Ovation Pro document= s > on my laptop (using Virtual PRC). > However I notice I have an Ovation Pro file on my Windows machine too b= ut > it has never been registered (for =C2=A360 I think). Is it a current p= roduct > of yours? Would it be worthwhile my registering it? Would I then be abl= e > to transfer my OvnPro documents from my RPC to my Windows version of > OvnPro? > Sorry this turned out to be more long-winded than I hoped. > Yours, > Dave Willington I have OPro on Iyonix and on my Windows 7 PC as OPro Win and under VRPC. The files swap back and forth easily between them. Just remember to set the type under RISCOS to OvnPro (I think - check an=20 existing document_ and in OPro Win make sure it ends in .dpf For what it's worth the documents look better on screen under RISCOS=20 than under Windows. Regards Tony Todd > > > > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpi= lling > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 18:51:21 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReA9L-01NVbs-03-BwC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:51:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReA9L-01NVbs-03-BwC; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:47:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReA9L-01NVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:47:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReA9J-00003Y-OT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:47:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C377E716C7; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324666040; bh=JlU6nE5WU40CdRkrlublNwI9FLERkPp0qTook6RA HIE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=g9KuWd2gDDp7+7tYQ6DTsQFlr40Fd 0J1juLyBKBz5I1TdrKVwrmOF32FKVjycVGGRlcO8TEAJEXKdZ0siL0sdpCRVnbe4AP1 nmhbwYKL8CeX/lN7p0B3FIIVqac0kkTLBH+TR56/N/4btsUcNISMSgSQfFU5b2+tG2w zYl9M3/k= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id buNZ6IlIhkqv; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8D17FE716B7; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:06 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324666039; bh=JlU6nE5WU40CdRkrlublNwI9FLERkPp0qTook6RA HIE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=xp8wGhSl9DexQC4A3Kp0/PvUu34xL o6VKQcyBRC7LA45Rt+q5AeDjQsUvndhmdDn6mv9XzNSorGH64VucuWoNyXyYqwpnf5U x/F0pxBgvOf0N17Jo5gANYzX7Gn5WMbeJGDvqB8y1P81bkBXFC5f4mS5MyviXQGRkyw Ag2Qed3U= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62128E71634 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Opt-RoSitZmf for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3726E6E53B for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ReA92-00040o-Ye for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:47:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:45:57 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 987 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message=20 <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk>, D. J.=20 Willington writes >However I notice I have an Ovation Pro file on my Windows machine too but >it has never been registered (for =A360 I think). Is it a current product >of yours? Would it be worthwhile my registering it? Would I then be able >to transfer my OvnPro documents from my RPC to my Windows version of >OvnPro? Yes to all. Ovation Pro for Windows is available as try before you buy, so you can=20 get the latest version from my web site and try it out and see if it is=20 useful. It will load Ovation Pro for RISC OS documents - see the relevant page=20 in the documentation. As Tony Todd should have said OPro RISC OS=20 documents have extension .dpd on Windows. This is the address of the Windows OPro CD on my website: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/index.html --=20 David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR.= UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 19:06:21 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReAJg-1Tnknw-05-Blr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:06:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReAJg-1Tnknw-05-Blr; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:58:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReAJg-1Tnknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:58:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReAJd-0000ZF-KB for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:58:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D64DBE71765; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:58:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324666680; bh=esE3cRSNQuHUwqVHn1YdaK6h7FjEJ3fUnFmeFvIb GeQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=IzbSomBXMASBJXh6HntoVih1G8ATF+jVDp6AQs5rn9TUVq9KdQ ZE+0rSULwFEUqSt5rb2PbdnJmuXoWu0dg1fZTPfauMtrWeNxvfkbfZ0bomyBUOIEBhq 1OlXpBB5ykQ3FzKb9oG3Gec9UVZFakvkc3BzbT7YHekL17+EXXL04k= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D-rYUZT3GFUH; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 88157E6ECA2; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:57:47 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324666680; bh=esE3cRSNQuHUwqVHn1YdaK6h7FjEJ3fUnFmeFvIb GeQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=IzbSomBXMASBJXh6HntoVih1G8ATF+jVDp6AQs5rn9TUVq9KdQ ZE+0rSULwFEUqSt5rb2PbdnJmuXoWu0dg1fZTPfauMtrWeNxvfkbfZ0bomyBUOIEBhq 1OlXpBB5ykQ3FzKb9oG3Gec9UVZFakvkc3BzbT7YHekL17+EXXL04k= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:57:47 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 64101E716E5 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:57:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULFw7zWbYW6F for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5E54E6ECA2 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ReAIp-0000mh-eo for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:57:44 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:56:11 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 988 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com>, Tony Todd writes >For what it's worth the documents look better on screen under RISCOS >than under Windows. A lot of truth in that - usual thing of how come RISC OS lost out to Windows. Win users will tell you that the RISC OS display is fuzzy. Years later, and at a lot more cost, Windows + a digital LCD monitor + Cleartype and results are nearly as good. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 19:51:22 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReB4D-0nmknw-07-B1K.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:51:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReB4D-0nmknw-07-B1K; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:46:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReB4D-0nmknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:46:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReB4C-0002wV-4k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8130BE71768; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:46:06 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324669566; bh=adxBjm4wb3ioTg59hoXqqmSj5jkwKxrfFaefrpRq RCM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=a/OA4YS5uY2N/SL3N4v8mZPpM15ODon16A8SnMfv Q3dNHDEr/neEKCiDyWNamClow8yDbMPSCtjS0JboqJ1oG1k0GExUj3wLrwqxhnDFmFW 0ynANdgsS2LKouNDjq8unbmtmwbuEpU905Ax/9jmgRNB6LFlfls5zChqflKRPwO4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZzafSfvKx5WL; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7771E7173F; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:45:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324669565; bh=adxBjm4wb3ioTg59hoXqqmSj5jkwKxrfFaefrpRq RCM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=Z06tvPZNh5qjWQIQSnNO8a1gKlZwc6PriaIu+HIn CXTDiqst3xmOlZFMYPi3IWWNL4GoptBEHU4rz9U0IYrgpoWrhIOMspC2m2rDyjzlPUB CCS8LabeDfYzBASyPZLe4ecY6bCu5Y9C5UuvZC+H0OPt1uxqZLBGSxdRSKfUCT0I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:45:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A149CE71741 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:45:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R1ZWp+TzVfiw for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2DAAE7173F for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([82.153.139.193]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBNJjn3T003752 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:45:49 GMT Message-ID: <4EF4DA72.2040204@appleshack.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:45:54 +0000 From: Tony Todd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tonytodd@appleshack.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 23/12/2011 18:56, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com>, Tony Todd > writes >> For what it's worth the documents look better on screen under RISCOS >> than under Windows. > > A lot of truth in that - usual thing of how come RISC OS lost out to > Windows. Win users will tell you that the RISC OS display is fuzzy. > > Years later, and at a lot more cost, Windows + a digital LCD monitor + > Cleartype and results are nearly as good. Years later and with a photo quality LCD monitor, VRPC & Iyonix are still clear winners. If I couldn't use OPro (RISCOS), Artworks and Impact along with a few others I'd be devastated. Tony Todd > > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 19:51:22 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReB5q-2NPknw-01-Azh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:51:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReB5q-2NPknw-01-Azh; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:47:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReB5q-2NPknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:47:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReB5o-00030c-29 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:47:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A81DDE71796; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324669666; bh=UZXas/yiA6UAQuQUWnCo9qwhb8KA/AYn9V5oxMj+ OMg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=chAQG6FiQ0WcTaY3kznTv3n+fnA2P4xYVbU7TT/Z 7U/WICuU5D+ftymmSRwE6DrOKObfOSUIrnIN7xJnXeXgGa6rxCbrVC1gpS+08WNYrfV IM/kv6NsOEGx3YKzuaICUeP31eRnUpOVKlDJ6CY2fuqoLG0rqTID1szBHlaGrjzc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2IrKUBhcGQCq; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 10A13E6D9A7; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324669665; bh=UZXas/yiA6UAQuQUWnCo9qwhb8KA/AYn9V5oxMj+ OMg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=FiaTihGOsq2UtVjHupTqvDb+P2GdUNCZHVQXEIKO JXgwx4iTTlLn91ley+K/n1rGkBJJhwib67CFON2n5oRcJOftqt/Fir6VLjvrOcvErj7 40hLTkQ5hpFhx3qOPwSRcI+WrfIcgW0AbdN5HUd+jWPlr9LsRX3Va/Pcm0UUjvYU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFB23E6DB26 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vEFgM8TqhvOK for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84776E6D9A7 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([82.153.139.193]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBNJlUpO003772 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:47:30 GMT Message-ID: <4EF4DAD7.4000909@appleshack.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:47:35 +0000 From: Tony Todd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF4BDF8.9010800@appleshack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 990 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tonytodd@appleshack.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 23/12/2011 17:44, Tony Todd wrote: > On 23/12/2011 17:09, D. J. Willington wrote: >> David, >> Just a quickie:- >> I have a RPC and a Win7 laptop. Most of my writing is still done using >> Ovation Pro on my RPC and saved on my laptop using VirtualRPC. I do it >> this way because my RPC is so much easier and faster than my laptop and >> the laptop is simply used as a backup for most documents I write. One day >> when my RPC finally dies I will hope to compose my Ovation Pro documents >> on my laptop (using Virtual PRC). > SNIP >> Dave Willington > > I have OPro on Iyonix and on my Windows 7 PC as OPro Win and under VRPC. > > The files swap back and forth easily between them. > > Just remember to set the type under RISCOS to OvnPro (I think - check an > existing document_ and in OPro Win make sure it ends in .dpf CORRECTION : that should be .dpd > Tony Todd (Merry Christmas everyone) To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Dec 23 21:06:25 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReC7A-1fQ000-08-9yN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:06:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReC7A-1fQ000-08-9yN; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:53:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReC7A-1fQ000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:53:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReC78-0006IW-SD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:53:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA1DAE717A5; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:53:12 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324673592; bh=n1JyC794/HqRSWXAbKomFQ6YTlLeBO2cdMesL7r9 jxo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=YGZKL42/uXAJXAHdSMiWl6Tg6rbDm6Tlods6DtoV 4ap3iYvBuQZ2Q03I+i3KydJocg5lKsErlvtms7f/QSimxKBdZMZFbg6xBywsOV9iIb8 9KD5hHn/6351x6s9H+9sxmyD+wG+KGTNqaAWEzSfYiU1ZKNQ884J8xnLLR/lV1Vw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pqgceVIVTf0u; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3ED8BE7039C; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324673592; bh=n1JyC794/HqRSWXAbKomFQ6YTlLeBO2cdMesL7r9 jxo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=YGZKL42/uXAJXAHdSMiWl6Tg6rbDm6Tlods6DtoV 4ap3iYvBuQZ2Q03I+i3KydJocg5lKsErlvtms7f/QSimxKBdZMZFbg6xBywsOV9iIb8 9KD5hHn/6351x6s9H+9sxmyD+wG+KGTNqaAWEzSfYiU1ZKNQ884J8xnLLR/lV1Vw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B96FE7178C for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ohk2LFrCxgN2 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 90AE3E7039C for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([109.176.240.151]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBNKqqS4005463 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:52:53 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows Message-ID: <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 991 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message > <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk>, D. J. > Willington writes > >However I notice I have an Ovation Pro file on my Windows machine too > >but it has never been registered (for =A360 I think). Is it a current > >product of yours? Would it be worthwhile my registering it? Would I > >then be able to transfer my OvnPro documents from my RPC to my Windows > >version of OvnPro? > Yes to all. > Ovation Pro for Windows is available as try before you buy, so you can > get the latest version from my web site and try it out and see if it is > useful. > It will load Ovation Pro for RISC OS documents - see the relevant page > in the documentation. As Tony Todd should have said OPro RISC OS > documents have extension .dpd on Windows. > This is the address of the Windows OPro CD on my website: > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/index.html FWIW. Here we use both OvPro for RISC OS and OvPro for Windows (With a suitable .dpd [Document] or .dps [Style sheet] suffix and this works very well. The only fly in the ointment (As could be noted from my past postings) are Fonts. The basic sets of fonts, assuming you have David's font set installed on the win side work okay, but SWMBO particularly, has a penchant for using some font or other that doesn't normally exist on the win side, and the default substitutions can often make a mess of a complex document. In which case I have to find something close and Map the RO and Win fonts, or as I managed to do recently (With some help) find a win font that was as near as dammit a match, and map that to the RO font. That aside, it really is a boon being able to move documents between the OSs. Dave --=20 Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 24 12:03:05 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReHKT-271knw-04-DHa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:03:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReHKT-271knw-04-DHa; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:27:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReHKT-271knw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:27:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReHKP-0002D1-T4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:27:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 033CAE71991; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324693636; bh=5S8oVFT2R/71mwymc89vB5rCB7+hZ0BbdPOoFZit 3Zs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=KbNqNbtTSG/bIf2MTjM6q+XRrwQjgrRMhcAZ8I6U bgy8F6lnEykZIpfID5oCHVe04bEOAa8nr29rHJD4jvEloXeJSQyVzaBb7XFg+9n6X5v hLdAjabrWIbT6JGVON0rV6nmGHhuf1EqV6g6nU8/vTzktFRZTLQ6ybQdPvF/7Cx8= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZuJ+ycj5H9mH; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7D38E709C0; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:01 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324693634; bh=5S8oVFT2R/71mwymc89vB5rCB7+hZ0BbdPOoFZit 3Zs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=LVOa4KPxZA1MXfAF7y6op/QU+OK7eZf5+BI7iTjR IynNRQuuxy+BHTuWMJSbN9sH02EegFIxGGoFe7nBiYqyWN+T0hN758quLAT9k7GrVMG BE5t69r11Ma60JMjTQFz1KE11Nlgz3TXNvREEW/PM/HqDMStcBnXT5skKHPVrnzs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7013BE71988 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15sf2BGYT7sB for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 91B51E709C0 for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([82.153.139.193]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBO2QsLs013859 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:26:55 GMT Message-ID: <4EF53876.3070003@appleshack.com> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:27:02 +0000 From: Tony Todd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 992 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tonytodd@appleshack.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling On 23/12/2011 20:52, Dave Symes wrote: SNIP > > FWIW. Here we use both OvPro for RISC OS and OvPro for Windows (With a > suitable .dpd [Document] or .dps [Style sheet] suffix and this works very > well. > > The only fly in the ointment (As could be noted from my past postings) are > Fonts. > > The basic sets of fonts, assuming you have David's font set installed on > the win side work okay, but SWMBO particularly, has a penchant for using > some font or other that doesn't normally exist on the win side, and the > default substitutions can often make a mess of a complex document. > > In which case I have to find something close and Map the RO and Win fonts, > or as I managed to do recently (With some help) find a win font that was > as near as dammit a match, and map that to the RO font. > > That aside, it really is a boon being able to move documents between the > OSs. > > Dave > I was very pleased with the eff Fonts CD which has a lot of fonts in both PC and RISCOS versions so you can install what you want into each OS. No renaming problems. I also bought a convertor from them, !effTTT I think which allowed me to convert some favourite Windows fonts for RISCOS. Hope that helps. Tony To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Dec 24 12:03:13 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ReKic-04gGPo-06-9tR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:03:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ReKic-04gGPo-06-9tR; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:04:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ReKic-04gGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:04:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ReKia-0002FT-OV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:04:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B9F8E6E1B5; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324706667; bh=UycDF6aEVy6sYW9cNQbZA/PAyO7DuiEgKomTMOkE CLo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=p1Q6lg s2r7zQuwtH1SwHWoksWFT0hYIJ7f2sdBxdiUggkuFLiWYcOfIkWf95xIrmXmcwHbRX3 dJiXRNT28jml7P5S/oHnSWiyNCMAmz+XvbQTHPXEm0p3IFb0kavX6UiTl0cgiOjqNlG dNEuIXyMqoI+VfFUd+7VCPRUwXm+eFI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w6P7RF0AdqkZ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C4D4E6E0BE; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1324706666; bh=UycDF6aEVy6sYW9cNQbZA/PAyO7DuiEgKomTMOkE CLo=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=huwqKY db7ao6Y8O7eYiULLbMkE0JbHEjHOErtX+OLYL7RQKJf3q5HjxwX7tPerXJI0pwFKaxQ QdSefzkunqTiltc8tz0VIkrkHXYOzzhxAdrko/H8YeI57dILywhdAs0KOGGh4r0hAnb qa9d3nRDTJ83Bzi5xhwF03x94h+taJE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 215B8E6E0DF for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G9o7MEhBkfol for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B460E6E0BE for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.139.194]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBO641FA019764 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:04:02 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:03:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows Message-ID: <5246773f7edave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EF53876.3070003@appleshack.com> References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> <4EF53876.3070003@appleshack.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 993 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <4EF53876.3070003@appleshack.com>, Tony Todd wrote: [Snippy] > I also bought a convertor from them, !effTTT I think which allowed me to > convert some favourite Windows fonts for RISCOS. Indeedy... One of the major problems I've encountered attempting to match fonts for Fay, is to do with badly created fonts on the Win side. One I found recently was as close as possible a match, but unfortunately after conversion using !effTTT so many of the glyphs/characters were missing. Looking at it in detail on the Win side showed the Font file didn't contain those characters at all, it just comprised alpha Caps, lower case and the numerics 0 to 9 and that was it. Bummer! Another font had many of the glyphs in the wrong places, but don't let this font burp put anyone off using OvPro on the two OSs... Because of the massive number of TT fonts out there... I think in every case, except one I've managed to eventually find a good enough match for her. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 28 12:20:45 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Rfr52-40Rknw-08-9Ih.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:20:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Rfr52-40Rknw-08-9Ih; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Rfr52-40Rknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Rfr50-0000Vs-MX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9CBE7E7B682; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325069392; bh=VpWi8DTLCj4rZfSdTNEgtFOaiqga0F7h9dllzcPW W+M=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=AYhCuPt+tyLxfAT7VZSjYAqSYBIo9 fNSv0LsWDc+/XTuhVJd9Jueg+llrql4udjIxr0H+JkuEd3FV8B0EiFnyfLBH1Qptbfp GGTtFMVBu78cqcYlu2Py5WPapj4PPSAXXpXEw4GalgBhJ73GUrDs2ZuQeRQ0wg2qKdv xVqUIllk= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwiQjvCAkw7k; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD93BE78186; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325069391; bh=VpWi8DTLCj4rZfSdTNEgtFOaiqga0F7h9dllzcPW W+M=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=QyqBKTKewdZ1kWaxjxQimZTkWZ6a3 XulnNY52/jLmZZ5LgyAiJvzfR1klXIn9sr+ma9JQ4lGes59Ka53F3BZdfDOvDtLv82i QKJr/1kcqwEWHgkIkAFrMWYbogdWPqP2qaaW/H8G2QOORDWJMF5UNwc5I98JBWK1Rm5 Ye1D5tIs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84661E78282 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PRiaGPEUeUoJ for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5065E78186 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from email.orpheusnet.co.uk (blake.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.204]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBSAnSOw002402 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:28 GMT Received: from 94.194.199.184 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bb45) by email.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:48:26 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <49447.94.194.199.184.1325069306.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:48:26 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows From: "D. J. Willington" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 994 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: djw@argonet.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Thanks for your reply. Actually, on further investigation I find that the copy I have shows the Register box indication v2.92 dated 12/1/11 with a Status "Registered". The user name is Mr D J Willington (me) BUT I can find no record of the Registration Key... Can you help please? Dave > Hi, > > In message > <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk>, D. J= . > Willington writes >>However I notice I have an Ovation Pro file on my Windows machine too b= ut >>it has never been registered (for =C2=A360 I think). Is it a current p= roduct >>of yours? Would it be worthwhile my registering it? Would I then be abl= e >>to transfer my OvnPro documents from my RPC to my Windows version of >>OvnPro? > > Yes to all. > > Ovation Pro for Windows is available as try before you buy, so you can > get the latest version from my web site and try it out and see if it is > useful. > > It will load Ovation Pro for RISC OS documents - see the relevant page > in the documentation. As Tony Todd should have said OPro RISC OS > documents have extension .dpd on Windows. > > This is the address of the Windows OPro CD on my website: > > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/index.html > > > > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 > 1LR. 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([109.176.231.194]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBSBQjKa003434 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:26:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows Message-ID: <5248a444bdriscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 995 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: [ severe snip ] > FWIW. Here we use both OvPro for RISC OS and OvPro for Windows > (With a suitable .dpd [Document] or .dps [Style sheet] suffix and > this works very well. > The only fly in the ointment (As could be noted from my past > postings) are Fonts. I'm at last coming to grips with OvPro for Windows after using the RISC OS version for producing the A5 parish magazine. My purpose for using the Windows version is that I'm trying to make myself redundant: I need to convert the material to Windows use for any other DTP editor to be able to take over. Like Dave I've found the Fonts issue difficult but I don't have his expertise and am somewhat diffident about asking some questions where the answer is "RTFM more carefully". On the other hand, I've found that those who ask the naive questions enormously help other newcomers in clarifying basic issues, so here goes! > The basic sets of fonts, assuming you have David's font set > installed on the win side work okay, but SWMBO particularly, has a > penchant for using some font or other that doesn't normally exist > on the win side, and the default substitutions can often make a > mess of a complex document. Like SWMBO I can't manage with just the basic set. I started making lists of fonts needing re-mapping. Then I read it again and (rightly or wrongly?) this re-mapping applies to PostScript fonts; but I'd be printing using an ordinary laser printer. Am I right then in thinking that what I need is the identical font with the same name in both RISC OS & Windows versions? Fortunately I have the EFF Professional Typography 2 fonts CD which has both versions. I also have a few useful RISC OS iSV fonts with no Windows TT version: do I have to abandon those? I tried to create a template on the RISC OS side and stripped out from it all the fonts that didn't have a TT equivalent, then loaded it into OPro/W. Yet a warning still came up that there was a missing font. I've combed the RISC OS document but can't find it anywhere. In Publisher there was a method for revealing all the fonts and deleting the legacy list no longer used - is there anything similar in OvPro? > In which case I have to find something close and Map the RO and Win > fonts, or as I managed to do recently (With some help) find a win > font that was as near as dammit a match, and map that to the RO > font. Are we talking PostScript here? I must agree with what's been observed elsewhere: the quality of the fonts visually in Windows is atrocious compared with the RISC OS anti-aliased version! Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 28 13:19:57 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1RftDN-1Icknw-07-Fgs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:19:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1RftDN-1Icknw-07-Fgs; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:06:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1RftDN-1Icknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:06:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1RftDH-0001Za-AA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:06:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19886E7E0A0; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325077593; bh=8tIz3NiV6PQAuNJBh6qo6EKTvO54dHtu55HHPYcR sBg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=CHP/OL 37WQ8W/RfWOzeLCluRjptP6mUVGrAH3a6acdVOqwSJi1XeAC+OBhRmGHfxWpOHiR28M Q4sGpKU860Qgaaqzx8vk2jsezmSv9xoaUh+icZZ/mfv5HQWVyDO+KHkXcFqhwxIeae7 xTGpoQbpMpiyJeGLQbJpmTZabp1rztI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lX-sQZ1hGWL7; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D680E715A2; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:19 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325077592; bh=8tIz3NiV6PQAuNJBh6qo6EKTvO54dHtu55HHPYcR sBg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ef/sHT XgKKxX+qs2Qa6KkZeGbJHit6Aanhs3I9aXndNrkwQ/IdELiw8LGMIssWW4g37UAnKta TJbIxDCfijxIAd1+Bvwvpze5ifVvN5ybGGdb/jJamSQeMbMrYkXtezng78ArTjG9z/k trVS8OSCBMsM8eShV254pV87nSdKx6U= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38A6CE7E028 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nNxL75QpQRTk for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (slinky.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.235]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5399E715A2 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.160.242]) by slinky.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBSD648R006106 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:06:05 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows Message-ID: <5248ad522bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5248a444bdriscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk> <5248a444bdriscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 996 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling In article <5248a444bdriscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding wrote: > In article <524644dd5adave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > [ severe snip ] > > FWIW. Here we use both OvPro for RISC OS and OvPro for Windows > > (With a suitable .dpd [Document] or .dps [Style sheet] suffix and > > this works very well. > > The only fly in the ointment (As could be noted from my past > > postings) are Fonts. > I'm at last coming to grips with OvPro for Windows after using the > RISC OS version for producing the A5 parish magazine. My purpose for > using the Windows version is that I'm trying to make myself > redundant: I need to convert the material to Windows use for any > other DTP editor to be able to take over. > Like Dave I've found the Fonts issue difficult but I don't have his > expertise and am somewhat diffident about asking some questions where > the answer is "RTFM more carefully". On the other hand, I've found > that those who ask the naive questions enormously help other newcomers > in clarifying basic issues, so here goes! You should never be afeared to ask question Michael, particularly on RO oriented groups, as most of the folks here are quite understanding and helpful. I've learned a lot over the years asking questions, and I hope I've also helped a few with my answers to their questions. (Some Windows and a *lot* of Linux Ngs are the nasty places, where the advocates spend too much time with heads up rectum to be civilised and offer help to others). > > The basic sets of fonts, assuming you have David's font set > > installed on the win side work okay, but SWMBO particularly, has a > > penchant for using some font or other that doesn't normally exist > > on the win side, and the default substitutions can often make a > > mess of a complex document. > Like SWMBO I can't manage with just the basic set. I started making > lists of fonts needing re-mapping. Then I read it again and (rightly > or wrongly?) this re-mapping applies to PostScript fonts; but I'd be > printing using an ordinary laser printer. Am I right then in thinking > that what I need is the identical font with the same name in both RISC > OS & Windows versions? Michael, the fonts names don't have to be the same, though obviously the point of the exercise is to use a font as similar as possible in structure. To use my recent example with Fay's problem. The RISCOS font is called "Hayleys.Shadow" but as such it doesn't exist in Truetype form, however, a very, very close match on the PC/TT side does exist but with a different name "Becker Shadow" and it is a Truetype font not a postscript font as such. So in the OvPro Win Menu bar-Misc-Font manager (Map button)I have... Typeface: Hayleys.Shadow Weight: Hayleys.Shadow (It only has one default weight, no bold or italic) Windows name: Becker Shadow If you click through the default mappings, you'll find things like Homerton mapped to Arial and so on... > Fortunately I have the EFF Professional Typography 2 fonts CD which > has both versions. I also have a few useful RISC OS iSV fonts with no > Windows TT version: do I have to abandon those? > I tried to create a template on the RISC OS side and stripped out > from it all the fonts that didn't have a TT equivalent, then loaded > it into OPro/W. Yet a warning still came up that there was a missing > font. I've combed the RISC OS document but can't find it anywhere. In > Publisher there was a method for revealing all the fonts and deleting > the legacy list no longer used - is there anything similar in OvPro? There is an Applet in Ov pro "Fontlist" that will produce a list of the fonts used in a currently loaded document, I also have it in my Win OvPro. With regard to your particular template problem... What you must also do on the RO side, is make sure any Styles that might contain font references are deleted. For example, in my default OvPro document, I have a heading Style that contains a different font to the Bodytext (default style of 12pt Trinity). The Header style is Homerton and Bold. As a last resort, I guess you could save the document as a DDLFile, stick it in Zap (or whatever) and manually remove any references to the additional fonts... Not sure if Mr P., would approve of that method though? > > In which case I have to find something close and Map the RO and Win > > fonts, or as I managed to do recently (With some help) find a win > > font that was as near as dammit a match, and map that to the RO > > font. > Are we talking PostScript here? No, it was a Truetype font. My Windows Font manager does contain a few Postscript fonts, but when I'm searching I usually stick to Truetypes. Hope that's of use. Best wishes for the New year Dave [Snip] > Michael Harding > Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 28 14:04:57 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Rfu4M-45Gknw-07-Ept.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:04:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Rfu4M-45Gknw-07-Ept; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:01:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Rfu4M-45Gknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:01:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Rfu4I-0007gI-NY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:01:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E73D8E7E0D5; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:19 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325080879; bh=AmTkX8q3mKiDRSCWAw5watbAU8abbAycvD9W/H9u zOc=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nTsnlPJzq9clEGx2y6FScVHrfcBiqxtPxbXIspEBINgsw+NsFM Ihb08uH3H5dmHYH2ZmT33ksfHS/5vka03WomX0Mz6IolT5/SqetAOk+V9ES8MAQxHCK GLuclNdmwfRVFpDmXtgRHSbRAW2i8+yv9Jrs3948RmfGI5aKiTFtQM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zxtIGraj+UUh; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 660CBE755F0; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:06 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1325080879; bh=AmTkX8q3mKiDRSCWAw5watbAU8abbAycvD9W/H9u zOc=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nTsnlPJzq9clEGx2y6FScVHrfcBiqxtPxbXIspEBINgsw+NsFM Ihb08uH3H5dmHYH2ZmT33ksfHS/5vka03WomX0Mz6IolT5/SqetAOk+V9ES8MAQxHCK GLuclNdmwfRVFpDmXtgRHSbRAW2i8+yv9Jrs3948RmfGI5aKiTFtQM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DFC5E7E07A for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t2NK5Uk-3+1K for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7F9CE755F0 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Rfu3z-0001SB-l2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:01:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:59:52 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro for Windows References: <0A54WiIJk18OFw1Z@pilling.demon.co.uk> <49831.94.194.199.184.1324660199.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> <49447.94.194.199.184.1325069306.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49447.94.194.199.184.1325069306.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 997 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Hi, In message <49447.94.194.199.184.1325069306.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.co.uk>, D. J. Willington writes >David, >Thanks for your reply. Actually, on further investigation I find that the >copy I have shows the Register box indication v2.92 dated 12/1/11 with a >Status "Registered". The user name is Mr D J Willington (me) BUT I can >find no record of the Registration Key... Can you help please? I've tried to send an email with registration details to everyone when they have bought OP for Windows - you throw away your emails?! Every physical copy has the registration key with it - it will either be in the front of the CD case printed on the insert, or in the pocket at the back of the printed manual. The point I am making is that you can help yourself. Obviously I will now go and send Dave a key copy. Cue stories about what MS do when you lose a product key. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Am I right then in thinking >that what I need is the identical font with the same name in both RISC >OS & Windows versions? Well yes and no. Windows can render PostScript fonts, that's why they work on screen, so I presume it can render them to a non-PostScript printer. To that extent the fonts don't need to be the same type. The font name does not have to be the same, the font manager built in to OP will let you map names in complicated ways - if you can work out how to use it. The font outline does not need to be the same, for example Arial is often used to replace Homerton or SwissB, but the characters are a different shape. What does need to be the same is the font metric, the widths of the characters. If these differ then the layout of your document will go wrong - text may spill out of boxes. If your font metrics are not the same then all you have to do is force a reflow of the document - make a trivial change to a style. The OP font manager also offers "replace" as an option for fonts, this actually changes the fonts used in the document - when you get the "missing font message". We touch on font copyright here, outlines are copyright and not to be copied, metrics are not copyright. This has to be or no one could ever have produced something that could make use of the fonts built in to PostScript printers, short of licensing the fonts. >it into OPro/W. Yet a warning still came up that there was a missing >font. There were bugs in the past that made OP lose count of the number of times a font was used in a document. Result it thinks you're using a font when you're not. I believe that if you tell OP to replace missing fonts when prompted, these phantom font references will be thrown away. So that is simple. A save and load of the DDL version should force a recount - slightly more messy. Then as Dave Symes said you can start editing DDL fine with me but a lot more complex than the above solutions. >I must agree with what's been observed elsewhere: the quality of the >fonts visually in Windows is atrocious compared with the RISC OS >anti-aliased version! A pity for us all that the people who bought Windows don't agree with you. These people are the problem, the ones who bought Windows, the ones who go and stand outside banks in times of financial crisis, the panic buyers. Talk about the "wisdom of crowds". -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling