From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 21 14:11:47 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNlvX-4gMknw-08-DDo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:11:47 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNlvX-4gMknw-08-DDo; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:09:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNlvX-4gMknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:09:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNlvQ-00079Y-GI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:09:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A169E1B74A; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:57 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1305983337; bh=EhLjDPW9Kr02Fw/yjSHsnMKeqOymrylawHv9/JF5 Ay8=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Y0dPTfj8PscLEhX2B2GOwmwyiq2y9 iqH6Xu8WrKXoDAvRK+q6Gfzl4Ep13NMtk0VdCZJoMPuUAjkUPIas+skgMLzRL4s756s 5cuMLCzeFf4wOldR3rDkyqUpkWpaIA/wI8ZqluFGci3C3N5yAN4/re9RIl786EF2G18 49RJQp8o= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQdN9U8YUW5n; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EC275E1B3CF; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1305983336; bh=EhLjDPW9Kr02Fw/yjSHsnMKeqOymrylawHv9/JF5 Ay8=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=vAI3XPJaU3Qra8cgBS7BC8/gxBNPF GGEXNmkoczkSz7KH5cbnpZWf+nNyhA0YmIw31sPoMcVoQlPNYY5wDRPvoZkmz1N2tu7 GXlL6MRPa2YwPIYbWmCfTS6ahVlznHMfmQn5UlID3i1n1UrYmNRupjnHQPObx3RQ2kV 0DYp+ScE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2295E1B3D7 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZCQIQhiXDkwT for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 739A5E1B3CF for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QNlv1-0006xL-pR for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:08:36 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:07:18 +0100 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 677 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ubz75NSMRNkA:10 a=dbT_QDAj8mIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gClkcs5sG1gL506a7HoA:9 a=gh7zZkUAV9291KuuWXwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zrNH130M3ZaQSbpc:21 a=FMoT5hxE-iIkhjY9:21 Hi, I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. It is apparent that this is a result of the changes I made to OP a few weeks back. There was a discussion here with Martin Wuerthner and John Tytgat, and we decided on the "correct" way to handle JPEGs - see if the flag saying transformed plotting is set, and if so carry on and use transformed plotting. Anyway, I'd like to hear if anyone using 4.04 or later can print a rotated JPEG. Note that this is a rotated JPEG with no image processing in an upright rectangular frame. I guess one way around the problem is to apply some image processing. I've tried using SPrinter and that prints OK, which surprises me, when I was involved Uniprint was a based on the standard RISC OS drivers. It looks like the choice is to ask for Uniprint to be fixed or revert to the old behaviour of OP. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 21 May 2011 09:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eir.is.scarlet.be (eir.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.27]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07A17E1B79E for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hobbes (ip-213-49-111-44.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.111.44]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p4LDHfDN032244 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:17:42 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1305983862; bh=Er2ATTpRjG+V2GO1koT0I9qmaQk2Fq1ndWtdKymaP88=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t8VySBCsGr2PEY0GLBiREPboY/Q2nSxR0PjuBA7CkhzXO/o09Q+T++M9jXAjomLdv DmOemHl2LMMl7dfAQXSyAwkUla2vJTgJbDfiyHlDpMBQ8U+K5M6+U9EM5Sc06Ig6dO 8tZb6ojvHh8/ocL4uf+HQB1+OJNf+ewbXut1L3AY= Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:30:25 GMT From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Message-ID: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.21) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-archive-position: 678 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=flurDIDPeEAA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=NhRG-6S5930A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=nMjLqBIenXoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NFLB-3fGLuMA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7mELct32FYNU2S0oFHsA:9 a=OobaFKnbzqE0EdhAhHwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 In message you wrote: > I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from > Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint > 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. Which was the exact error message ? > [...] > I've tried using SPrinter and that prints OK, which surprises me, when I > was involved Uniprint was a based on the standard RISC OS drivers. Yes, this confuses me as well. > It looks like the choice is to ask for Uniprint to be fixed or revert to > the old behaviour of OP. Let's first try to understand what's really going on. :-) John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 21 14:26:48 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNm4j-07Y000-02-D4c.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:26:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNm4j-07Y000-02-D4c; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:18:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNm4j-07Y000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:18:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNm4W-0002Uo-5h for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:18:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E83CE1B8A5; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1305983900; bh=VIPv/uJmw871aCW+QNAvSZkw6jC1Z+t4nFh7C0Pu DU0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=fbW/7OZmBbluzQlJVA+k/TM9mYEuFXruEqI8PqMS6a5Zsy8dbf wbC1jqoSsTvtkQbYyR12btM6YsYaHJ3s4HQGrLEvD8TvbJnbT83pLOQ/lwdmLUV8TYF l2f6tzmR+5rHKFNtlm98vtzjsAVnct52X3VWvR5UZB8JsJ3+dBmA0s= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WySIOM-ELyNy; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC05EE1B433; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1305983899; bh=VIPv/uJmw871aCW+QNAvSZkw6jC1Z+t4nFh7C0Pu DU0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=DaEaDWjm+gZiL012+7BHkd+Ko8fPx5QJCfXVZlfrpZ3EGHGAJl VfWZ1hj8qd02wdh4crQLRIFmu1WNTZ0MYBD8tyCt5sQc8zaIe6bsyZSXfnA/RuTYliL tEXHMiuuTkBfRcOr0K+k3geihQ7VC9qy+JEgQ68xJxiov++gSTH828= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94D24E1B421 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HumPvWvAHPeH for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EAA71E1B7BF for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QNm47-00013r-bj for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:17:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:16:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 679 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tewIUDeXIgIA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=AH9y_bFuQQFqJY36YNcA:9 a=d8nrDZXkkLvLlNsWWZQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=h68KOyvqQMTqlgff:21 a=jKq_XU5Z_v4iASJb:21 In message , David Pilling writes >Anyway, I'd like to hear if anyone using 4.04 or later can print a >rotated JPEG. Has to be Ovation Pro 2.77 *r* -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From bernard@bapfish.org.uk Sat May 21 14:42:23 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNmHc-0c3Vbs-08-Crj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:42:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNmHc-0c3Vbs-08-Crj; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:31:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNmHc-0c3Vbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:31:56 +0000 Received: from [212.159.7.35] (helo=relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNmHc-0005i7-KO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:31:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPy9101UXebr/2dsb2JhbACmHniIcLowhhkElECKRw Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 May 2011 14:31:56 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QNmHb-0006Xb-Ue for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:31:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: David Pilling From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:31:26 +0100 Message-ID: <33e6dfd651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=XikSl2Okz-kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=Sw7kRm1dgDw5DHroLJwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Z9d6_OmjRYzfi7gP:21 a=9KY9YEcE2GbJDofo:21 On 21 May 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from > Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint > 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. > It is apparent that this is a result of the changes I made to OP a few > weeks back. There was a discussion here with Martin Wuerthner and John > Tytgat, and we decided on the "correct" way to handle JPEGs - see if the > flag saying transformed plotting is set, and if so carry on and use > transformed plotting. > Anyway, I'd like to hear if anyone using 4.04 or later can print a > rotated JPEG. > Note that this is a rotated JPEG with no image processing in an upright > rectangular frame. I guess one way around the problem is to apply some > image processing. > I've tried using SPrinter and that prints OK, which surprises me, when I > was involved Uniprint was a based on the standard RISC OS drivers. > It looks like the choice is to ask for Uniprint to be fixed or revert to > the old behaviour of OP. I get the same JPEG error message when trying to print to SPrinter 1.03 as well - I have just tried. I am using !Printers 1.72 if that makes any difference. I can confirm that if I add some image processing, it will then print OK. -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 21 14:42:54 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNmN8-04P000-03-CmD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:42:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNmN8-04P000-03-CmD; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:37:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNmN8-04P000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:37:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNmMy-0006vx-Bx for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:37:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9815EE1BA1B; 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Sat, 21 May 2011 09:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E93A5E1B7AC for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwHACi/101UXebr/2dsb2JhbACYI417eIhwujWGGQSUQIpH Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 May 2011 14:36:52 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QNmMN-0007Hb-HW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:36:51 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:36:37 +0100 Message-ID: <8a5fe0d651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 680 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=lLNWrMSkZogUVsu0ecMA:9 a=_2_drh5IOWWjHR3QeREA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=ZVu3w7wfM3B81AsQ:21 a=pjVuoNlNdwRvrLra:21 In message <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> John Tytgat wrote: > In message you wrote: >> I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from >> Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint >> 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. > Which was the exact error message ? Error message from OvPro is: 'Transformed JPEG plotting is not supported by this version of the SpriteExtend module.' >> [...] >> I've tried using SPrinter and that prints OK, which surprises me, when I >> was involved Uniprint was a based on the standard RISC OS drivers. > Yes, this confuses me as well. I get the same error message when trying to print to SPrinter 1.03 as well. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 21 14:56:58 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNmYK-13iVbs-08-Cb1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:56:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNmYK-13iVbs-08-Cb1; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:49:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNmYK-13iVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:49:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNmYC-0002go-8P for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 13:49:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21D70E1BAAA; 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Sat, 21 May 2011 09:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F49CE1BABB for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 09:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk (blake.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.204]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4LDmL0o002143 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:48:21 +0100 Received: from 194.106.46.76 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bd39) by webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:48:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <18445.194.106.46.76.1305985701.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8a5fe0d651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <8a5fe0d651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 14:48:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint From: "Andrew Conroy" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 681 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: andrew@owlart.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e-oTvW9ZY5YA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=oVq2zNtD9JEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=k6H5KLJeK2WQOY6J2w8A:9 a=Qoehly03ZO24S3LnLnQA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 On Sat, May 21, 2011 2:36 pm, Bernard Veasey wrote: > In message <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> > John Tytgat wrote: > >> In message you wrote: > >>> I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from >>> Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPri= nt >>> 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. > >> Which was the exact error message ? > > Error message from OvPro is: > 'Transformed JPEG plotting is not supported by this version > of the SpriteExtend module.' The obvious question to follow this is what version of the SpriteExtend module do you have running at this point? 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Bernard has: SpriteExtension 1.21 (19 Jan 2010) and I using Iyonix that has not been updated for many years don't. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 21 May 2011 10:03:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwHAPvE101UXebr/2dsb2JhbACYI417eIhwuiCDIoJ3BJRAhBmGLg Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 May 2011 15:03:03 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QNmli-0002kN-Q1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:03:03 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:02:50 +0100 Message-ID: <2fc6e2d651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <8a5fe0d651.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <18445.194.106.46.76.1305985701.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <18445.194.106.46.76.1305985701.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 683 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=J4bYTdbIAAAA:8 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XVqvwfnr4XZNbFZ9uxsA:9 a=-ePHWYWx5kHJBfnmj4YA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zw6h1A24o64A:10 a=aN_dsQuji08A:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=7hnukpFFYHpmWIXY:21 a=RCth7VWSbDxqv-J8:21 In message <18445.194.106.46.76.1305985701.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet .co.uk> "Andrew Conroy" wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 2:36 pm, Bernard Veasey wrote: >> In message <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> >> John Tytgat wrote: >> >>> In message you wrote: >> >>>> I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from >>>> Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint >>>> 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. >> >>> Which was the exact error message ? >> >> Error message from OvPro is: >> 'Transformed JPEG plotting is not supported by this version >> of the SpriteExtend module.' > The obvious question to follow this is what version of the SpriteExtend > module do you have running at this point? > Andrew I can confirm I have SpriteExtension 1.21 (19 Jan 2010) I also have an example OvPro file at: http://www.bapfish.org.uk/jplot.zip Bernard -- Email - bernard@bapfish.org.uk Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 21 19:57:05 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QNrGs-0Zx000-07-GOz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:57:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QNrGs-0Zx000-07-GOz; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QNrGs-0Zx000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QNrGo-00053b-HE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2011 18:51:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0880E1B786; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306003884; bh=SQqptJm+jhwsG6fcQPW672C6hV2pdDR2lbuR1g+P He8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=GgBB3yRqW7amX7K4Le7Oibhjb6Lj5RkatEFcGCqOY1XI1QG/8L L4l75ROvxutO8lcxLNhDdnE/uh45VFhQk2zpT/bWG4ndavSiaFyBFfg/jtlJpygQ371 CLhE+UcF6etwMCD/6e5QWGm7DcNRKjxpoAmXgnzuJdyvk529FaexE0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7+LLRJSGvYyd; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46C32E1B5FF; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306003883; bh=SQqptJm+jhwsG6fcQPW672C6hV2pdDR2lbuR1g+P He8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=eAB1yfRdqHgOIJtkfwpukXp9+oDX2kEfYvKksKhebVxxBXB7iP dK9hSID8vnPqZNmehSkU6sRXeCFUvm4fsGyyVE0ncqi7IvTvDh6FZJ3uTi3co8mL3DX UYgVw69c4CVCum7fdZXPl7T2d62xLTTuK+kno5f2iyXovO9xysbQdc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F33A4E1B6B5 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ziz9C5J9juPh for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8200FE1B5FF for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 14:51:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AogHADAJ2E3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbACYJI18eMM+hhkEkBGEL4pH Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 May 2011 19:51:07 +0100 Received: from [46.208.20.88] (helo=standalone.xemik.com) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1QNrGU-00075t-GX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 21 May 2011 19:51:06 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:39:28 +0100 From: Mik Towse To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Message-ID: <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 6.01 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 684 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mik.towse@xemik.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fAyMccbpTJoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=Vvy1_FAz6tQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=aWJfat-lAAAA:8 a=R2OTYkJWAAAA:8 a=YLs-sxLQAAAA:8 a=bKMCzSZhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PC598p6m8YUDfgoJ8X0A:9 a=JAa4WHhcIieug2DRdgQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EcQXcao8HCYA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=FeDn5ByjUKUA:10 a=TASuNyZ9KaCGY8ul:21 a=Cwa9t5PIe3FbSexi:21 In article David Pilling wrote: > In message <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com>, John Tytgat > writes > >In message you wrote: > >Let's first try to understand what's really going on. :-) > > A voice of sanity in a mad world. > > Bernard has: > > SpriteExtension 1.21 (19 Jan 2010) > > and I using Iyonix that has not been updated for many years don't. Taht's interesting. Is this ROS5 specific? I have: SpriteExtension 1.57 (04 May 2004) ROS4.39 -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net Don't walk behind me; I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me; I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend. 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Is this ROS5 specific? I have: > SpriteExtension 1.57 (04 May 2004) >ROS4.39 But do you have the problem when printing. In the light of Bernard's comments above, Uniprint seems to have nothing to do with the problem. It may be SpriteExtension 1.21 (19 Jan 2010) that is the problem, or it may be some oddity of Bernard's machine. Anyone got SpriteExtension 1.21 and the problem or not? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 686 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: doug.j.webb@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=EqrLs1jmFqkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ZMM54wpJeswA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0JnS22kIvKgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=aWJfat-lAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=dZ0ckDpjBBqoyx00tPYA:9 a=-bC1va2Lk0CZNi01-psA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=FeDn5ByjUKUA:10 a=M_tq5TuzrifAiA97:21 a=zPB33xnli5ka5WQy:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com>, Mik Towse > writes >>Taht's interesting. Is this ROS5 specific? I have: >> SpriteExtension 1.57 (04 May 2004) >>ROS4.39 > But do you have the problem when printing. > In the light of Bernard's comments above, Uniprint seems to have nothing > to do with the problem. It may be SpriteExtension 1.21 (19 Jan 2010) > that is the problem, or it may be some oddity of Bernard's machine. > Anyone got SpriteExtension 1.21 and the problem or not? I can confirm the same issue using Bernard's test file with my Iyonix running either 5.16 or 5.17 with Sprite Extend 1.21 and OvationPro 2.77r prining to !Sprinter 1.04. Doug -- Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.16, the thinking person's alternative operating system to Microsoft Windows. 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Sun, 22 May 2011 04:57:03 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4HAA/P2E1UXeb6/2dsb2JhbACYIo17eIhwunaGGQSUQIpH Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2011 09:57:02 +0100 Received: from [212.159.46.232] (helo=IYONIX) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QO4T7-0001hr-QO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 09:57:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Evan Clark To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 09:55:28 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Message-ID: <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 687 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: evan@ejclark.force9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DAn0p_fG-HQA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=aWJfat-lAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_PRmc8XNN_uD_hfKh20A:9 a=T2vczxm2VADqNhnqDmMA:7 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=FeDn5ByjUKUA:10 a=_hrVMMLLc5IsvIWs:21 a=iZZoltCNr-u98qDG:21 In article <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb wrote: > In message David Pilling > wrote: > > In message <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com>, Mik Towse > > writes > >>Taht's interesting. Is this ROS5 specific? I have: > >> SpriteExtension 1.57 (04 May 2004) ROS4.39 > > But do you have the problem when printing. > > In the light of Bernard's comments above, Uniprint seems to have > > nothing to do with the problem. It may be SpriteExtension 1.21 > > (19 Jan 2010) that is the problem, or it may be some oddity of > > Bernard's machine. > > Anyone got SpriteExtension 1.21 and the problem or not? > I can confirm the same issue using Bernard's test file with my > Iyonix running either 5.16 or 5.17 with Sprite Extend 1.21 and > OvationPro 2.77r prining to !Sprinter 1.04. Yet the test file prints with no problem from this Iyonix with: RISC OS 5.16 (18-Jan-10) Sprite Extend 1.21 (19-Jan-2010) Ovation Pro 2.77r (10-Mar-2011) Sprinter 1.04 (17-Nov-2007) Printers 1.75 (25-Sep-08) I wonder if the version of Printers is relevant. 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Sun, 22 May 2011 05:22:49 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4HAATV2E3Unw4U/2dsb2JhbACYJI17eIhwunKGGQSUQIpH Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2011 10:22:49 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QO4s4-00021g-CU for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:22:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:22:18 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Message-ID: <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 688 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=7vtFykjVAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=nj-dL4Ggd4qEWYBdp_8A:9 a=131tw6ddyagEuZUe66EA:7 a=z3zKAsAoscgPMRAt:21 a=-MvbxeTzSnQpKlA7:21 In article <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk>, Evan Clark wrote: > Yet the test file prints with no problem from this Iyonix with: > RISC OS 5.16 (18-Jan-10) > Sprite Extend 1.21 (19-Jan-2010) > Ovation Pro 2.77r (10-Mar-2011) > Sprinter 1.04 (17-Nov-2007) > Printers 1.75 (25-Sep-08) > I wonder if the version of Printers is relevant. Ditto for me, the only difference being SPrinter 1.03 on this machine. It prints fine to SPrinter, to PrintPDF, to a real PS2 printer, and a real Epson R800 via GutenPrint. The only thing I cannot do is use UniPrint. I could even try it on a BeagleBoard but I doubt that would shed any extra light 8o) Chris... -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 22 11:54:28 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QO6AV-184000-08-A1s.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 11:54:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QO6AV-184000-08-A1s; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QO6AV-184000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QO6AS-0001j3-F6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C149E1AFEB; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306061150; bh=MMetyXtB3Ps9Zfz+vK8FF88U7p9xnZXwczZm/6aD aeU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=mw3pqcIO4d0VlcWLnMRaUfELUXTuwFR87CvRcMHXZGhy16RqNa ssC9T17DzrRFKvMdw/ceiYvFd7acyC3V4YmiVLWyDX1TQ5aEeVDzOinWHeORLBCFQbl hZgZICxnZZbbHnOj/0CXsqhCO2N+SQp6utOtw430iJNwKCUPM5i5CQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t5ohqJ4Efq60; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6BC29E1636D; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:36 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306061149; bh=MMetyXtB3Ps9Zfz+vK8FF88U7p9xnZXwczZm/6aD aeU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=AxluOmlv0hidBGSpk0xKWkhkrlhjp/sKvLaCCtABiJdJA0lRqY NqF2DTAS3sVmjqVgjqRmEsiJ/WgaPfoFQO9MRJSt7rEDlFG9ntzRn6s7p+CZjdVmfTL HU9FNWveF+OXnPvDtxe4UEIqFVseg03b64+VDWt52B8w6twc+4UZvU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 375A8E1AFB9 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMNWdeAJ9yYf for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1164E1636D for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 06:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QO6AA-0004ix-X8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45:34 +0000 Message-ID: <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:44:18 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 689 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GJefkEWAkOEA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=amKr2IgGjaf11_LEKLgA:9 a=-fHmVfbQ-KUhzo3RwOoA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Os0G2n6AnzVZlq51:21 a=jGT-eG4Q7GdWwIXY:21 Hi, Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Gav Crawford Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:54:17 +0100 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4dd8eb5e.137e1-1e27-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: postmaster@pop3.dentrassis.com X-archive-position: 690 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=eh7fDCqbAdkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=q8M-BbbfmYtYhhT1IpEA:9 a=CIoljjxQuUoKSjBmdLUA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nj0CLbZWdrzlW7qQ:21 a=WzMFp27CMphmlEPl:21 On 22 May 2011, at 11:44 AM, David Pilling wrote= : > Hi, >=20 > Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. Bern= ard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. U= K > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilli= ng I can confirm that Geminus has something to do with the problem. Turn off 'A= ccelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' in Geminus settings and the error does= n't appear and the print completes. 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Sun, 22 May 2011 07:11:30 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4HALru2E3Unw4U/2dsb2JhbACYI417eIhwum2GGQSUQIpH Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2011 12:11:28 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QO6ZE-0000sD-3W for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 12:11:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:10:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Message-ID: <51d756d483chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 691 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6RXxtA_Ja5MuPs8kcgkA:9 a=wPv-x5R_roZALQqiH8QA:7 a=xyqxeziICCVd-Bwj:21 a=lLWwEh5NbKIyxD5M:21 In article <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not > guilty. Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that > installed? Not Doug but... I do *not* use Geminus. I tried it two or three times a while back but found there were lots of problems, so gave up. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 22 12:24:30 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QO6dx-32vknw-05-9YQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 12:24:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QO6dx-32vknw-05-9YQ; Sun, 22 May 2011 11:16:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QO6dx-32vknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 11:16:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QO6dr-0003aI-Mu for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 11:16:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6399E1B90A; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:16:12 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306062972; bh=kyo56JYr6S+29cPSsI/7gtqHTbOYb5nl7WLXd/9c 17o=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=sSJeu4AvoxWpr+3EibeijnPhqkVCBFUfqKMytgzuB1g/OWFzr5 OtLQpxzbK96xs/Bcdj4NKj8fJcndRIrLqQFG5rKO/QcJvGD/Wv7vfmjfLI8ngitDJoR bX0Fy8DjcsHS9OuAk+C5J1bAPLkt7FKOmXitJNDwZEo6BHNlwXCt3g= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eaycgcXuZvWm; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2BC7BE1B902; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:15:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306062971; bh=kyo56JYr6S+29cPSsI/7gtqHTbOYb5nl7WLXd/9c 17o=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=CKwRo9fCadihUrQZcNaMcAY/J+cxb3OFKh7BkJtRAp8UX+xtkc whCdv8HmaQFtCo0fBDPXprXb8iCt1x0Hg+TUGgOdrgP4xGSb8lTEHtopEpTA9Z/NKEI CqFZ2ZAuyzzVW932fi8nz96Xm+qozIlVQtlkBsx+Ws9cnGNkLA0pJw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 22 May 2011 07:15:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7B12E1B903 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:15:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JyiQBl6+2FHD for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71C30E1B902 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 07:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QO6dW-0001Fl-Zw for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 11:15:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:14:22 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 692 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hPezquxJG1YA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=P08BfDg-gRcsMIzmbNIA:9 a=krhgIqHaCAcJS3wkNEkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=yaofe53r3Gkpu_BF:21 a=g8uda39DW_ntpfWj:21 In message , Gav Crawford writes >I can confirm that Geminus has something to do with the problem. Turn >off 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' in Geminus settings and the >error doesn't appear and the print completes. Thanks. There is a flag set if RISC OS is capable of rendering rotated JPEGs. I guess Geminus sets that flag - and presumably if you have Germinus you enjoy a big speed up in rendering rotated JPEGs with the latest version of OP. However the flag remains set when printing, despite Geminus not being involved with printing. Result when printing OP attempts to use rotated JPEG plotting and you get the error. On the face of it, a problem with Geminus. Is it likely anyone will fix this? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 22 May 2011 13:33:31 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEACT/2E1UXebr/2dsb2JhbACmH3iIcLpghhkElECKRw Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2011 13:22:06 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QO7fZ-0004mU-NO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 13:22:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:21:52 +0100 Message-ID: <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 693 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wKx7Fer3R20QZ0I3B74A:9 a=y-fImCjWqLtsG0yd8csA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=ZUvfPASi3rCdlI1N:21 a=naS35HZxEN8Zm63R:21 In message Gav Crawford wrote: > On 22 May 2011, at 11:44 AM, David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. >> Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? > I can confirm that Geminus has something to do with the problem. Turn > off 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' in Geminus settings and > the error doesn't appear and the print completes. I have just tested it again and when I print the test file with all three of Geminus' settings for Ovation Pro turned OFF I still get the same error. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 22 19:09:41 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QOD1S-0yP000-05-BhR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 19:09:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QOD1S-0yP000-05-BhR; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:05:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QOD1S-0yP000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:05:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QOD1M-0004oK-Te for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:05:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6565E1C151; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306087494; bh=MG9ulWZGNfzIUo9gsUzSeeSck8onyk/BmG1g779l YBI=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=P+tyr5nrQBRAvcTl/StOkjRPxfy7o7X+8SLyG9N32Vgrrne7Fn NzHq4n+ch69w1HfJRH0+H7foaUf/yEyTsYRj+z4lhWohR/dKpY+zFtp6+Jd60kUSiQi G+/KwrCy7VOAs5IKRWAyNtlpd44k3ZAnicFuQo1ZN9DzVDw0oWQD+Y= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oG7R06v51Ilr; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D8EFE1C139; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:40 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306087493; bh=MG9ulWZGNfzIUo9gsUzSeeSck8onyk/BmG1g779l YBI=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=dA+rwn5XTejOReltYD55cwaeyof+zfuxOje++rIrYsgHLV3VMd IwcC52WOtTG3/PVxN9E3fVnaOp/rHKH4XMm7zMbP8NCCVCCaUbF6mbW+eozoIL3eVPh G1nh4XcijsHcbL5FWKs4DFiseUrJ1niDGYua1ffHJWCGhSVaFYd3No= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B879E1C13A for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jaGd8bRzM47B for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2D24E1C139 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:39 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAAFP2U3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbACmH3iIcLpIhhkElECKRw Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2011 19:04:38 +0100 Received: from [87.113.45.101] (helo=IyonixPC) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1QOD13-0003iV-PI for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 19:04:38 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" From: Brian Howlett X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:04:18 +0100 Message-ID: <8cb77cd751.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> X-Organization: Who, me? 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User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 694 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yxp8-dhF5VAA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=34nHkHPV2O0dG4R8sRMA:9 a=xluCmDqzGHm168D9KiYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 On 22 May, Bernard Veasey wrote: > I have just tested it again and when I print the test file with all > three of Geminus' settings for Ovation Pro turned OFF I still get the > same error. Instead of just switching them off, try removing OPro from Geminus altogether. -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I put instant coffee in the microwave, and almost went back in time... 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charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Gav Crawford Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:07:47 +0100 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4dd95f09.8233-f96-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: postmaster@pop3.dentrassis.com X-archive-position: 695 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=eh7fDCqbAdkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uCfFYUswtuue1BO0BykA:9 a=hegpo5F6JZB9P_UXLdwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=TnuB04c_eXrQtVni:21 a=sdD7bQC-9kkjEB5-:21 On 22 May 2011, at 01:21 PM, Bernard Veasey wrote: > In message > Gav Crawford wrote: >=20 >> On 22 May 2011, at 11:44 AM, David Pilling wr= ote: >=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. >>> Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? >=20 >> I can confirm that Geminus has something to do with the problem. Turn >> off 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' in Geminus settings and >> the error doesn't appear and the print completes. >=20 > I have just tested it again and when I print the test file with all=20 > three of Geminus' settings for Ovation Pro turned OFF I still get the > same error. I found that the three settings on the OPro line didn't make any difference o= n the test, in other words I still got error what however they were set. But= it's the main setting above those 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' t= hat makes the difference. Hope that helps. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 23 11:30:51 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QORBf-3GdVbs-02-EaG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 11:30:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QORBf-3GdVbs-02-EaG; Mon, 23 May 2011 09:12:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QORBf-3GdVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 09:12:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QORBd-0007kP-5K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 09:12:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9BF4EE1C9B3; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:18 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306141938; bh=hpvIbbjvFXbGqQ618EzGSqpWm+3UjNn0lwmiF+O9 MB0=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RrXTam7O0+IWNPHDUEB3YzzhIrDj1xc19DEayg+KaTy8e5JwAB /ZAQDCBgEVMoIpjBQGsZLS9k5M+tltFIC07r59KEOtmc5gyWzkrSOTWGswYr3KdwNpF SEpk3vvH06nQtDRFtJFN/z9UwLlnaKn/eXefwT+4HhPy+uEM7iSLRM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F3E0CdttkwVs; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B867AE1C994; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306141937; bh=hpvIbbjvFXbGqQ618EzGSqpWm+3UjNn0lwmiF+O9 MB0=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=QX1d/GvMeh/I1m4F7Kgrg6Ke08qhzO93jBbX6Xvu2jIXx7Gvhm 5RA1ZRdcBPvfnhrpw2ZL5YYC7SOFxxfOvW1cflY4FyKV73u9VQG7nDB2JTwyoRTnQXJ 6AXBHth+bvk6F0Q7Q7ED4Rap0aGzKN3MUflT9rFDREKZSCych7pLek= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 88775E1C997 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9i57n3qMrzvV for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26D9AE1C994 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 05:12:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-80-105-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.80.105]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LqJdN-1PlGoS2m7l-00e0e0; Mon, 23 May 2011 11:12:02 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: David Pilling From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:11:49 +0200 Message-ID: <63cdcfd751.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:s1OX8OkrrjSQHor58GRaw+N1jYHfszilXeflDqqFBsQ cn/9onhFvxT0buLBAlktYImepGghCBAUFckbq2PILCJix4tsrD CzkKXU8tIAlBkxoEb7NQ8O7Pp8tarzIsWnOaNRqVrvVLKr8l2+ VTUFHPEpbBOzmHHi/1zF8SBDV3i1G1mtLXOVBz2EeZDE+ZEyew uoBIhFOi5FfSFlWpvTSpA== X-archive-position: 696 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=U-zf5_POoJANfFPG7DUA:9 a=qiZtDmoqDiPmAnR1vDAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=waipkd1xczinTWf8:21 a=vsE10ncqwIhgYaQy:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > I'd like to have a discussion about a bug report I got this week from > Bernard Veasey. He says that if he prints a rotated JPEG using UniPrint > 4.04, printing fails with an error about transformed JPEGs. > It is apparent that this is a result of the changes I made to OP a few > weeks back. There was a discussion here with Martin Wuerthner and John > Tytgat, and we decided on the "correct" way to handle JPEGs - see if the > flag saying transformed plotting is set, and if so carry on and use > transformed plotting. Ermm. Really? That was not at all my understanding of the change you made. I thought the change was to always use transformed JPEG plotting when printing to a *PostScript* printer (level 2 or 3). That is safe, and that is all you can do while printing. Most notably, you can never use transformed JPEG plotting when printing to a raster printer because there is no way to find out whether the driver supports that. John and I are still discussing whether we can extend the printing API to include such a flag. Rendering to screen is a different issue: When not printing, you can first try to render transformed, and if that returns an error, fall back on your previous workaround (render to sprite, plot sprite transformed). As far as I recall, that was the conclusion we arrived at back then, and it was my understanding that that is what you implemented. The above implementation will never cause a "Transformed JPEG plotting not supported" error during printing. 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charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 697 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: doug.j.webb@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=EqrLs1jmFqkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ZMM54wpJeswA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0JnS22kIvKgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4jr7-Pa7cAhfvzPdKWoA:9 a=iHb3UvRSRyhuIJcMakcA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XTPgk3l8Crzz1LRU:21 a=aK7TZ2h6oTvJ0X9v:21 In message <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. > Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? Yes I have Geminus installed Doug -- Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.16, the thinking person's alternative operating system to Microsoft Windows. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 23 12:00:40 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QOShM-1Lbknw-01-D4Z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 12:00:40 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QOShM-1Lbknw-01-D4Z; Mon, 23 May 2011 10:49:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QOShM-1Lbknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 10:49:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QOShF-0003P4-5K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 10:49:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1901BE1CA50; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:49:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306147750; bh=cJkeieiyhIbhd83J1AS1I8je1rd9oxM16UzqUTSZ XLk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Vrnw0oLGldtoYP7X++DrIhJ2VSF+cLKoUwof1f7ghUiz8dP+SP a3vdns9JsqwX3JxKWjL4DV7Xw6f9mv9QZUb4SPz9ExHFO/l79Q0juDPu6C97KuikkA2 /8dA9mASi3uXNZtFguE5tg9jmuqDkZpPAlfHvOCTYChD/lYkTNzyRw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZODRAjs1cDS7; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 34C55E1C9B4; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:48:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306147749; bh=cJkeieiyhIbhd83J1AS1I8je1rd9oxM16UzqUTSZ XLk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=kIN2rvLKB1TaoYvjRNiXtVNqAS3dDf2R9E3Frq6wcqzRxhHB6R UE5om1k0p7yk3FJwy60H0uNgqdFxzl6F5CAxpvU/dhc+EW4ol1RLUakO9N2U9M2IAVz DV33fBi48mLd9eQRit3QmvTBCYin2zWuD3s9XcrZaDTRMcwN0Ez+Bs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 23 May 2011 06:48:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 00AF7E1CA34 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:48:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7moVTuOQ2zVy for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79DB0E1C9B4 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 06:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QOSgw-0003XK-md for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 10:48:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:47:31 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: <63cdcfd751.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <63cdcfd751.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 698 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RB4jAFyGhhcA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=SoeOcIZ63TzL0uvHS5MA:9 a=pz5oD8MIswMVAvsbtQkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=2ACUPr9U12OTxEmx:21 a=L7DQja8SGyzXDfIZ:21 Hi, In message <63cdcfd751.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner writes >that is all you can do while printing. Most notably, you can never use >transformed JPEG plotting when printing to a raster printer because >there is no way to find out whether the driver supports that. Clear thinking. I remember now. It is a mess though. I'll probably go off and 'fix' OP. Another bug will then be written in to the code preserved for the future, the incentive to improve printer drivers diminished. This is printer driver authors wagging the dog. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Mon, 23 May 2011 07:32:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEANxE2k1UXebr/2dsb2JhbACmIniIcLlRhhkElECKRw Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 May 2011 12:32:01 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QOTMe-0003Wy-OS for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:27:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <8cb77cd751.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <8cb77cd751.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 699 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=SWMmumL4AAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ZkG04Py2s2dqdVS_OjoA:9 a=b29hKNJj_2Hhk4YLVxAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aFb-dEh0_QBAIWd0:21 a=7WWvqiHdFpigysZ4:21 In message <8cb77cd751.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> Brian Howlett wrote: > On 22 May, Bernard Veasey wrote: >> I have just tested it again and when I print the test file with all >> three of Geminus' settings for Ovation Pro turned OFF I still get the >> same error. > Instead of just switching them off, try removing OPro from Geminus > altogether. Just tried removing Ovation Pro from the Geminus list - the problem remains. The Geminus acceleration options list then says: ArtWorks - All ticked Filer - All ticked SwiftJPEG - All ticked Ovation Pro (Temporarily Removed) Other Apps - All unticked Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 23 12:45:41 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QOTNi-0SUVbs-02-COD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 12:45:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QOTNi-0SUVbs-02-COD; Mon, 23 May 2011 11:33:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QOTNi-0SUVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 11:33:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QOTNV-00079F-TZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Mon, 23 May 2011 07:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C16BE1CA25 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 07:32:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEANxE2k1UXebr/2dsb2JhbACmIniIcLlRhhkElECKRw Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 May 2011 12:32:01 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QOTMf-0003Wy-9E for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:01 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:31:28 +0100 Message-ID: <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> In-Reply-To: <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 700 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=m7NmDi8BjghcmsDXykMA:9 a=LwbOpLA9TB47zP33jWwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=df6uSrXpJTKCdYxv:21 a=rv5gn1ZzfsmX4IuT:21 In message <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> Gav Crawford wrote: > On 22 May 2011, at 01:21 PM, Bernard Veasey wrote: >> In message >> Gav Crawford wrote: >> >>> On 22 May 2011, at 11:44 AM, David Pilling >>> wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Thank you for doing the tests. Apparently SpriteExtend is not guilty. >>>> Bernard mentioned 'geminus' to me, Doug have you got that installed? >> >>> I can confirm that Geminus has something to do with the problem. Turn >>> off 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' in Geminus settings and >>> the error doesn't appear and the print completes. >> >> I have just tested it again and when I print the test file with all >> three of Geminus' settings for Ovation Pro turned OFF I still get the >> same error. > I found that the three settings on the OPro line didn't make any > difference on the test, in other words I still got error what however > they were set. But it's the main setting above those 'Accelerate JPEG > decoding and plotting' that makes the difference. > Hope that helps. If I untick the main Geminus option 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' the problem goes away - But I want this option ON to speed things up! -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 23 14:30:44 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QOV7y-1Gu000-03-Adx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 14:30:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QOV7y-1Gu000-03-Adx; Mon, 23 May 2011 13:24:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QOV7y-1Gu000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 23 May 2011 13:24:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QOV7r-0001b7-KO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Mon, 23 May 2011 09:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECFF5E1C9B2 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 09:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QOV77-0001Ba-YK for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 13:24:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 14:22:48 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 701 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=W7u2wDmI89gA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=dQ4CPf9-SRuzBXHQ7q8A:9 a=VDJ5i_VzPUIlU3kDNYkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MuyGvGN79MzpBL36:21 a=W_phywj2ryPVakR4:21 Hi, In message <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey writes >If I untick the main Geminus option 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and >plotting' the problem goes away - But I want this option ON to >speed things up! Tell us, does it speed things up, can you rotate a JPEG in OP quickly? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Organised? User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 702 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yxp8-dhF5VAA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=SWMmumL4AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qQQB9aFKCy3oKNd2p6sA:9 a=98POBL3LRyaZ_l5aCXAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 On 23 May, Bernard Veasey wrote: > In message <8cb77cd751.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> Brian Howlett > wrote: [snip] >> Instead of just switching them off, try removing OPro from Geminus >> altogether. > Just tried removing Ovation Pro from the Geminus list - the problem > remains. I only suggested this because I don't have OPro listed under Geminus, and don't have the problem. > The Geminus acceleration options list then says: > ArtWorks - All ticked > Filer - All ticked > SwiftJPEG - All ticked > Ovation Pro (Temporarily Removed) > Other Apps - All unticked I'm not printing to a RISC OS printer, I use PDF3 and PrintPDF and then print the resultant .pdf file on my Ubuntu PC as neither of my printers work with RISC OS. I understand from other posts that this will not trigger the error. -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you the Prime Minister?" "No, but I've often been mistaken." "What, for the Prime Minister?" "No. I've just often been mistaken..." 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Mon, 23 May 2011 14:08:04 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjIHAPKh2k1UXebr/2dsb2JhbACYJY4Cd4hwvBKGGQSUQIpH Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 May 2011 19:08:03 +0100 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QOZXv-0006GC-CK for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 19:08:03 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:07:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 703 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TIhhpr7X__HwXXE1eeQA:9 a=zD8t2fwfsvbQqiIlo-oA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=1Kdsvo1WMfLj833i:21 a=SezHnQojGS6irGAQ:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey > writes >>If I untick the main Geminus option 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and >>plotting' the problem goes away - But I want this option ON to >>speed things up! > Tell us, does it speed things up, can you rotate a JPEG in OP quickly? With a 3264x2448 JPEG from my camera in an A4 portrait page it takes: 270 degrees to 90 degrees 4 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' OFF 3 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' ON 25% faster with Geminus 90 degrees to 270 degrees 4 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' OFF 3 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' ON 25% faster with Geminus With the same 3264x2448 JPEG image in an A4 landscape page it takes: 180 degrees to 0 degrees 2.4 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' OFF 1.2 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' ON 50% faster with Geminus 0 degrees to 180 degrees 3.8 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' OFF 2.8 secs with 'Accelerate JPEG decoding and plotting' ON 26% faster with Geminus Timing done with a stopwatch. OvPro frame same size as A4 page. Using a 1920x1200 screen mode in 16 million colours. RISC OS 5.16 on Iyonix PC with 2x original 2002 type graphics cards. With Geminus' 'Cache window contents in off-screen video memory' switched on for Ovation Pro you can drag a menu over the same image in real time at high speed without any holdup. With it switched off it is like dragging it through treacle. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 24 12:45:41 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QOpuL-1PPknw-06-FR8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 12:45:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QOpuL-1PPknw-06-FR8; Tue, 24 May 2011 11:36:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QOpuL-1PPknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2011 11:36:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QOpuI-00056v-IP for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2011 11:36:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2016AE1D684; 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Tue, 24 May 2011 07:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8AA95E1CB26 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 07:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QOpu1-00078U-gt for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 11:35:57 +0000 Message-ID: <1ujY9IDLf52NFwLi@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:34:35 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, JPEGs, Uniprint References: <44cedfd651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> <51D6FC1997%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1ddb3cd751.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> <51d74a785aevan@ejclark.force9.co.uk> <51d74ced04chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2JRoUoACkO2NFwY1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <9f5d5dd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <94A8609A-AE32-4AC5-9B87-A243E908D367@dentrassis.com> <6496dcd751.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 704 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=czS9lqcqQEUA:10 a=v9DFFn36MYcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=i3AtoaRJPS5VsCMs2ngA:9 a=u8_MJtYXK7a1TyCXOG8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=I5SDlKAs3T5VcSW8:21 a=LYB6xmEe5UsQvVfU:21 Hi, In message , Bernard Veasey writes >25% faster with Geminus >Timing done with a stopwatch. Thanks for that. I suppose you could have done us a You Tube video. >With Geminus' 'Cache window contents in off-screen video memory' >switched on for Ovation Pro you can drag a menu over the same image >in real time at high speed without any holdup. With it switched off >it is like dragging it through treacle. I always say that a speed up of x 5 is needed to impress. I regret it when I see how slow some JPEGs are. I usually feel this on Windows. Caching and better code could help. As to the main issue. I think I will tweek OP so that the user can configure the way they want JPEG rendering, and I'll make the stupid, broken, useful way the default. So a new version in a short while, if I remember. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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I think I will tweek OP so that the user can >configure the way they want JPEG rendering, and I'll make the stupid, >broken, useful way the default. So a new version in a short while, if I >remember. I've done a new version that solves the problem of printing rotated JPEG files to non-PostScript printers when Geminus is installed. You can get it here: http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip 2.77s, 27th.May 2011. I couldn't find the spare bits for bitmap handling etc. so there is no configuration. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 29 15:14:55 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QQgbI-2kmVbs-08-BYt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 29 May 2011 15:14:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QQgbI-2kmVbs-08-BYt; Sun, 29 May 2011 14:04:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QQgbI-2kmVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 29 May 2011 14:04:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QQgbH-0000kg-Q7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 29 May 2011 14:04:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6685E222B2; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306677853; bh=gsR9yr/irUA5cseAc0/8QDU4w10cEVQhNYVvB9Ai U6M=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=LkvuDfl+BNum49Cz2wunY94L3FaeF vuqBxOznVIZjWyFh0hA9WAHB4C5qgMeus2J1FraDY7MJEr8xx/iZwSxhu1XmzY1i9og SGJzISGoCFN4H6z0u4ZVVs9gG3dcEMg4ly/GCJon4+mokk8hsq1oLzZUIIazavRUz3w 1Bop10Xk= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FQZIrDyWn+3g; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EE077E222A7; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306677852; bh=gsR9yr/irUA5cseAc0/8QDU4w10cEVQhNYVvB9Ai U6M=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=EEMlHGOv4AkipT3llP2fw8+hBDCrF CQCWa52zILosiUolsQfD8rops4F9JQ6OvF8kUulM0JtWONqII6WFgv6bmOzOKYypvrD XGzlpaZJxb8nZ2QvaVuHsPtw3lhvt2Uo71pHVRL7UapD9MTKhxL6LrKkb9yPDCbzqlP G5tVGxRk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D496E222AA for ; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UE2GehIb5M9b for ; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.14]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7D2BCE222A7 for ; Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpbrm-ews20.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.151]) by cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 29 May 2011 16:03:56 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT106.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.22]) by cpbrm-ews20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 29 May 2011 16:03:56 +0200 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([213.10.58.27]) by CPSMTPM-CMT106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sun, 29 May 2011 16:03:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 16:03:52 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Macro for Next Page Message-ID: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2011 14:03:55.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F87DFF0:01CC1E09] X-RcptDomain: freelists.org X-archive-position: 706 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-M75jXDnvJcA:10 a=TsV3zeejsnoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Y2Kqrm_AL7Xw2BQFkecA:9 a=ZZOxWt2OL_3NsmQghcsA:7 Dear all, How difficult would it be writing a macro that makes the Page up and Page down keys display the previous and the next page - rather than scrolling up and down? The latter could perhaps be assigned to Shift-Page up and Shift-page down. I do have the articles of John Pettigrew on writing scripts and macros, but the complexity discourages me. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 31 10:01:17 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QRAt4-2NEGPo-08-FNB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 10:01:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QRAt4-2NEGPo-08-FNB; Mon, 30 May 2011 22:24:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QRAt4-2NEGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 May 2011 22:24:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QRAt3-0001Wv-Af for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 May 2011 22:24:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 476E4E226E4; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:36 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306794276; bh=1rINgGBk7LDs74UKjmaX0ws8KTr5ys7+O2scuNOb hSM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=elvMKbTIP+Gx0XNxx2UhgUHeHbSBbaSc0ZwWRO16buRzVRSF60 cWsy8bpDWiSdWDw7YXrh7vtXcKEiPhtH6QYpuK2zCFGCv6U3Jq57/yjgURorWB4AQos ZxACWDkCa4VA9zLZcp8TifkH+uD9/9IG7Xxp3w1ooh6XPJXu9yS9Bw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GQYJLKr64DnW; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 607D9E1F2AF; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306794275; bh=1rINgGBk7LDs74UKjmaX0ws8KTr5ys7+O2scuNOb hSM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=rvZLoasUwQNhHGrClXqlMbOY0AaWtpmIll1RVWiYdFYmOX1qmL FkB6CwEytUmg7tnM9E3OWQ1Nx6WCT7qIRKUQ1L51U/NQHr+b5Q41v1a1aM5Rtwkkenz I4JxHVqpkH7OWNCpMcCjMYTn1yANNN1+AZTgrbMj2OB5mH+s/Au820= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 35A84E1F8AE for ; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u2SCrC-6xVaD for ; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8B22E1F2AF for ; Mon, 30 May 2011 18:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QRAsm-0003mF-YJ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 30 May 2011 22:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 23:23:01 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 707 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tewIUDeXIgIA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=I2CukswyT7w4DEieXfIA:9 a=ZFSuk9S-uguS6fywAToA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KiCcCTppgjJLQsFX:21 a=TqEkpdUN7xxlgoBX:21 Hi, In message <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers writes >How difficult would it be writing a macro that makes the Page up and Page >down keys display the previous and the next page - rather than scrolling up >and down? The latter could perhaps be assigned to Shift-Page up and >Shift-page down. Extremely. Shift + Page Up and Shift + Page Down do what you want. So you define a macro for PageUp with a body of 'S_PageUp You need to check if I've got the key names and the code for Shift right. The single quote means "original definition of". I'm sorry I should have answered this earlier today. More tomorrow if the above is not enough. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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More tomorrow if > the above is not enough. No need to apologise - it took me approximately 8 years before I asked the question in the first place. And the above is more than enough. I never knew about Shift Page Up etc. It makes me suspect that there might me more in the world that I don't know about. 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Tue, 31 May 2011 04:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57400E229FD for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-211-79.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.211.79]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4V875ZA001929 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 09:07:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:07:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3595e8db51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 709 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=f9eIa0VQZQ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_RngsqqEc_Wxo-Jq15sA:9 a=B4YT5k8AprHuysy79UsA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=7thdL7XxEVAVzmuF:21 a=2wQJmgGSyvuS5AVl:21 On 30 May 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers > writes >>How difficult would it be writing a macro that makes the Page up and Pa= ge >>down keys display the previous and the next page - rather than scrollin= g up >>and down? The latter could perhaps be assigned to Shift-Page up and >>Shift-page down. > Extremely. Shift + Page Up and Shift + Page Down do what you want. > So you define a macro for PageUp with a body of 'S_PageUp > You need to check if I've got the key names and the code for Shift > right. The single quote means "original definition of". > I'm sorry I should have answered this earlier today. More tomorrow if > the above is not enough. Odd! Here (RISC OS 5.16 and OPro 2.77s) Page up=A0and Page down do the=20 next and previous page respectively, and shift with these moves my one=20 line up or down. I haven't knowingly changed the macros for these. With best wishes, Peter. --=20 Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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The ability to redefine key presses does mean they may not always be the same on your copy of OP. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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The ability to redefine key presses does mean they may not > always be the same on your copy of OP. Is there a way of finding what *has* grabbed a keystroke/combination othe= r than trawling through every single applet or macro - I've lost the use of CTRL-x as 'Cut' in OvPro (RISC OS) and since it (ctrl-x) doesn't *seem* t= o do anything else, I can't figure out why. I know I've installed lots of applets, and even put a couple of my own macros on the button bar, but ca= n't specifically remember usurping ctrl-x for anything else. Best wishes, Colin > > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. 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(VPS 110531-0, 05/31/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 712 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TCEEC2QPgUEA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wbG_U_Ht8N79qYTA2ywA:9 a=co00i26JlRUPS_YUlRYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ETZmUpgBHChkljKM:21 a=1YD0iDzqXNoCP9lT:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > Somewhere there is documentation on what all key presses and clicks do - > interesting. The ability to redefine key presses does mean they may not > always be the same on your copy of OP. Page 268 (Annexe E) of the manual do mention the keypresses for Page movement. But the keypresses to go to start of previous/next Page seem to have gotten lost through the various updates of Ovation to OvPro. These keypresses were already lost in OvPro version 2.59 (oldest version I still have access to). -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 31 22:04:25 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QRRVW-3TYknw-08-Fnl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 22:04:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QRRVW-3TYknw-08-Fnl; Tue, 31 May 2011 16:09:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QRRVW-3TYknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 31 May 2011 16:09:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QRRVP-0001U8-1W for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 31 May 2011 16:09:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D2D6FE1F089; 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Tue, 31 May 2011 12:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.245]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C37ABE1E247 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 12:08:59 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsIAN4R5U1cHuZt/2dsb2JhbABTmAuOEnfGIIYeBJUqikA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,298,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="479390048" Received: from unknown (HELO iMac.local) ([92.30.230.109]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 31 May 2011 17:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4DE51298.7080309@red-squirrel.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:08:56 +0100 From: Roger Foden Organization: The Hot Desk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> <3595e8db51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <1cdd11dc51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <1cdd11dc51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 713 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: roger@red-squirrel.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Lu1KE1za1RoA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=dj-AKYqMp_MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BnjMQvumGenw2O9xsjUA:9 a=yHXJvJW37JP2_n-mPKEA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4puoMHYQ1eeIfqbx:21 a=nHJIrqqmTN0FZ-ZW:21 On 31/05/2011 04:38, Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > In message > David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Somewhere there is documentation on what all key presses and clicks do - >> interesting. The ability to redefine key presses does mean they may not >> always be the same on your copy of OP. > > Page 268 (Annexe E) of the manual do mention the keypresses for Page > movement. But the keypresses to go to start of previous/next Page seem > to have gotten lost through the various updates of Ovation to OvPro. > These keypresses were already lost in OvPro version 2.59 (oldest > version I still have access to). Shift-PageUp Shift-PageDown, as documented in Annex E of the Reference Manual, works here with OvPro 2.77s under VirtualRPC (RISC OS 4.39 kernel 6.80) on the Mac, so not lost entirely. Regards Roger -- Roger Foden To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 31 22:19:11 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QRWEu-1lcVbs-06-B4N.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 22:19:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QRWEu-1lcVbs-06-B4N; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:12:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QRWEu-1lcVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:12:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QRWEs-0002XU-3a for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:12:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 53115E231CF; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306876353; bh=IP3XGkdcAQvxVyH4eanpUlWW3fdktc+R53voUcMT FJE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=YEkBhmFbimdMz43XOr0etQA/Dg9uWTC+ExK5awJSxWaOH1aKol ZS7EMqyM2vg/f1Xt22NQBj1d8lA/P0OIrbB2FPRNSQTE3SvLS+iYFpR5S4oAk9D/tw3 bELcSK7JmEDQWo63WlGjpg1QZtyV/E49uOHAtuWupd2lI8aiyfXt1c= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D+ymcKTDFV05; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5E20E20C9E; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1306876352; bh=IP3XGkdcAQvxVyH4eanpUlWW3fdktc+R53voUcMT FJE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=OnzRL+eoZuUW03iyHS2k7e6GQs2BMqjfVF7etaQhUZbZCAGAn7 xLUrvcAz9/QB4EtpMtnTe47QfG3edVtvjOwFVDMJ+7KZTLd55bP+OH0Jo8YQzlN2VKz 3Z8pI8qoIaAClwxRmxgVaN2EgNtqfyuIjTglMA5iLberh7c46Y4Gh0= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8ED7FE22A0B for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MmX5+K8LYyfq for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 17BDBE20C9E for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QRWEb-0007cu-Zj for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:12:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:10:41 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> <3595e8db51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <49366.82.4.34.205.1306841192.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49366.82.4.34.205.1306841192.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 715 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1l2XFB2OpOoA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CUzElw1UAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_x9JZTVHz-EBBWYK-V8A:9 a=GkO1UZexVs9rLLq9sYQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=UXVmiyVkT6AA:10 a=ucLEBn9iWmv27dmp:21 a=sxG687SrTdXqod8z:21 Hi, In message <49366.82.4.34.205.1306841192.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Colin Carnegie writes >Is there a way of finding what *has* grabbed a keystroke/combination other >than trawling through every single applet or macro No there isn't. I think there should have been. It is also possible for two things, styles, menus, macros to lay claim to the same key press with results which are unpredictable. Perhaps we need some functions that return the keypresses for various things and then someone can write an applet to display them. I don't know maybe you'd just like a big window that shows everything and lets you change it (unlikely). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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(VPS 110531-1, 05/31/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 716 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TCEEC2QPgUEA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wgaHT7FhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=AYeZiAf4K7QYSFil3DoA:9 a=_oohMo4ROBMVUAk_G-EA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HURXEEAAiz4A:10 a=UXVmiyVkT6AA:10 a=BDlnwwZzIG2_A9G_:21 a=aUwv575uK_M0mp-f:21 In message <4DE51298.7080309@red-squirrel.com> Roger Foden wrote: > On 31/05/2011 04:38, Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: >> In message >> David Pilling wrote: >> >>> Hi, >> >>> Somewhere there is documentation on what all key presses and clicks do - >>> interesting. The ability to redefine key presses does mean they may not >>> always be the same on your copy of OP. >> >> Page 268 (Annexe E) of the manual do mention the keypresses for Page >> movement. But the keypresses to go to start of previous/next Page seem >> to have gotten lost through the various updates of Ovation to OvPro. >> These keypresses were already lost in OvPro version 2.59 (oldest >> version I still have access to). > Shift-PageUp Shift-PageDown, as documented in Annex E of the Reference > Manual, works here with OvPro 2.77s under VirtualRPC (RISC OS 4.39 > kernel 6.80) on the Mac, so not lost entirely. Thank you, very interesting, because I seem to remember it did work when working on the manual, but now it does not. (That is why I did some digging to find old versions of OvPro). This means more testing is needed, especially weeding through all the applets to see if one of them is the problem. And there is a problem somewhere: further testing showed Shift + Page Up/Down does work once only after a simple Page Up/Down, after that it only moves the cursor up or down one line. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 1 13:58:05 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QRfYi-3pv000-07-AH5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:58:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QRfYi-3pv000-07-AH5; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QRfYi-3pv000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QRfYV-0006Nr-AJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DCB2E24EAC; 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Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F5E1E24E9C for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.175.220]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p516XQlc032003 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:33:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:14:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page Message-ID: <51dc622251dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> <3595e8db51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <49366.82.4.34.205.1306841192.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 717 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KR5MIgd2fWAA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=Vt-lPvQP9RgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=CUzElw1UAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=B-03aHXDweh2OjEmj0kA:9 a=K7Jf9XCuVyGckB0yRxMA:7 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=--TeOcLSV-ZkCtj-:21 a=vGfhkM8f_J_OJ9n_:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message > <49366.82.4.34.205.1306841192.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Colin > Carnegie writes > >Is there a way of finding what *has* grabbed a keystroke/combination > >other than trawling through every single applet or macro > No there isn't. I think there should have been. > It is also possible for two things, styles, menus, macros to lay claim > to the same key press with results which are unpredictable. > Perhaps we need some functions that return the keypresses for various > things and then someone can write an applet to display them. I don't > know maybe you'd just like a big window that shows everything and lets > you change it (unlikely). Personally... Just a display of what key has what would be enough for the user to see the problem. 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Wed, 1 Jun 2011 03:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-203-32.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.203.32]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p5177Qaw032547 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:07:28 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro for Next Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:32:10 +0100 Message-ID: <884532dc51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <51db018e53Paul@sprie.nl> <3595e8db51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <1cdd11dc51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> <4DE51298.7080309@red-squirrel.com> <42832fdc51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <42832fdc51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 718 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BDvafNzVszoA:10 a=3hHvUshNEEgA:10 a=f9eIa0VQZQ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=-MHPPrKEAKUwe5Z_ul8A:9 a=MkN65xffdtZefB2UA60A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=if2J2WSbahkiNCfG:21 a=uKeG7lPT_VUrxA7k:21 On 31 May 2011 Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: [snip] > Thank you, very interesting, because I seem to remember it did work > when working on the manual, but now it does not. (That is why I did > some digging to find old versions of OvPro). > This means more testing is needed, especially weeding through all the > applets to see if one of them is the problem. And there is a problem > somewhere: further testing showed Shift + Page Up/Down does work once > only after a simple Page Up/Down, after that it only moves the cursor > up or down one line. Yes, that's exactly what I find here. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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I have a 33Mb document that consists of a large number of hi-res images, all referenced, but all set with a low-res/quality proxy image. When loading the document it takes just under 5 minutes to open the document window after d/clicking on the file. During this time there is repeated flashes of the HD LED in bursts, as if each referenced image is being loaded and a new proxy image being created. If it _IS_ the case that a new proxy image is created, and I can see that in some situations that may be useful in case the referenced image has changed on disk, then why is it necessary for the proxy images to be saved in the file at all? If the proxy is _NOT_ being re-created then is this amount of loading time to be expected? ... it's the pulsing of the HD LED that seems strange to me, as if the loading process is dealing with a number of files. Unlike when a document with a large file size is loaded and there is one flash of the HD LED as the entire file is loaded into memory. David, the document in question is the knitting book "A Stitch In Time" which I sent you a copy of back in 2009. As you may remember the amount of images and separate text frames in this 360 page A4 book is quite extensive, so I can appreciate there may be a long processing time when the document loads before the window is opened. So David, any thoughts on the matter? Or has anyone else on the list had similar experiences. I've now started working on volume 2 which is around 400 pages and with the long load times between sessions, or after a crash and reboot does feel like a lot of time out of the day is being wasted. Gavin. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 3 13:44:44 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QSTfu-2bwGPo-08-BIz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:44:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QSTfu-2bwGPo-08-BIz; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:40:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QSTfu-2bwGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:40:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QSTfr-00012d-If for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:40:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1F51E2579D; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307104821; bh=rL9sMSgiSBdGA5ymG4w/8WEvn5YGQXYocBqeyKGe VOY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Jv2ECp8JPHyp1hJI/oKUCOOY196nA7+sQ5NFyQOmyexwt6kJ+b 6//UIdS6BcP6wFkGkwtrlJ9fB8Rh0gBZEhe6U9dbHF05NbIq0S65sAEb3W1hwayPpfb SyaVSxHyTyFiaLF2vxO8oPrvuwvaYXPQq2IQCLNWDYzkio4GTC3yuM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eO9rpd5rPKRb; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 08BF5E25633; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:07 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307104820; bh=rL9sMSgiSBdGA5ymG4w/8WEvn5YGQXYocBqeyKGe VOY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=uJDtK+EaJ7UtFP5L3RRm7ZrFhwalr3do35IBv3wH+5wA2BWMgO fc97NebCVIibaaD4VsImQtMqUDx/y+b1VZfDDyIdFqIKZ9WWtTK7ilZyefb3eTPuI/Y hwD/4Kpdvii1PFChZXWfkFzVnlfUM/ndLt7a7LjeeijswGwig9Ebyk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:40:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4AA0E2560F for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id unTIRzrOCUhb for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 279A0E25633 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QSTfX-0006q4-YR for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:40:03 +0000 Message-ID: <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:38:45 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Referenced and Proxy pictures References: <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail> In-Reply-To: <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 720 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tewIUDeXIgIA:10 a=qWQjMz0CH3IA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=01-AzztrL-9NFQl6A7YA:9 a=yTWo_RJJ4wuXc3Qe49AA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=SvRbHgBYlQ_GU1JY:21 a=tucuwlrx5uJzrUAf:21 Hi, In message <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail>, Gavin Crawford writes >I have a 33Mb document that consists of a large number of hi-res >images, all referenced, but all set with a low-res/quality proxy >image. When loading the document it takes just under 5 minutes to open >the document window after d/clicking on the file. During this time >there is repeated flashes of the HD LED in bursts, as if each >referenced image is being loaded and a new proxy image being created. I would not think the proxies should be recreated, it would obviously take a lot of time and be undesirable. The thing which does spring to mind is that OP may think the images have changed - different timestamps maybe and that is making it refresh the proxies. >David, the document in question is the knitting book "A Stitch In >Time" which I sent you a copy of back in 2009. It is a great book. I am happy to hear it was done with OP. I may have forgotten but I don't think I took that in at the time (doh). >I've now started working on volume 2 which is around 400 pages and >with the long load times between sessions, or after a crash and reboot >does feel like a lot of time out of the day is being wasted. So it's still doing this on new/resaved copies of the file. I thought it might just be an old document meeting up with a new file system. I will investigate... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 3 13:59:44 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QSTuG-4CT000-02-B4d.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:59:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QSTuG-4CT000-02-B4d; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:55:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QSTuG-4CT000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:55:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QSTuC-0002SC-5G for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:55:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7792E26653; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:55:09 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307105709; bh=ysTmoMlX9Ezn+fTNhMUyGUHjIN0nbjEFBD9oR7Hn hQI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=YfsRtnoiyI/oulI8wY4DypI98SrMBu+4pl+ckqGUykJrK5Po4f Oc7R/QM38HcFf0vcJdDDCpvgBY0rG6A0CXV7EW2AgMkkuJhe/jsRKF0ttPPqeiLcjRG AevQnQoNbbyutIiojLaFWfgs//8C0rH58LG6WLKAL3hXg5hw1fCCGU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l6QuEIdw9w13; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65568E265C4; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:54:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307105709; bh=ysTmoMlX9Ezn+fTNhMUyGUHjIN0nbjEFBD9oR7Hn hQI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=YfsRtnoiyI/oulI8wY4DypI98SrMBu+4pl+ckqGUykJrK5Po4f Oc7R/QM38HcFf0vcJdDDCpvgBY0rG6A0CXV7EW2AgMkkuJhe/jsRKF0ttPPqeiLcjRG AevQnQoNbbyutIiojLaFWfgs//8C0rH58LG6WLKAL3hXg5hw1fCCGU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:54:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F3FAE265DB for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:54:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DpD1tdRXAatz for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE527E265C4 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QSTtu-0003xY-iE for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:54:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4byLgQE$kN6NFwJR@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:53:19 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Referenced and Proxy pictures References: <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail> <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 721 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tewIUDeXIgIA:10 a=qWQjMz0CH3IA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=AMiE3j95g-qp38hMXLIA:9 a=fK7MQY0-fgNZr6-TYHgA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MDqAOM1m7sGwUaa3:21 a=M0SY9JWTG0prBWyD:21 Hi, Oh hang on. There is an option to check for fonts in graphics on load, kinda like missing fonts in documents. I wonder if that is the problem - graphics all Draw files? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 3 16:29:49 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QSW7j-18tVbs-06-8rA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:29:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QSW7j-18tVbs-06-8rA; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QSW7j-18tVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QSW7e-00044R-F3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D2875E264D8; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:17:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307114231; bh=anrgF9B7ZIerzEqs6sBES5ObyFiDq1oFWL6hZDJ9 Ilw=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=qyc3W9Oo7cB2ydkkQQNkjeUz3CK8i+ufSUCLtfUpKQCPXjGpUA 3fBvZGVrdJEYKAwdk1RloB9DyTS2GokhTV6TxmGzw/dcPHrqg81yqq96TMIJBq7rJDY H6QKqKUWYXbVywnMX7YxfzW64ALDFjMBRnZPA+nMD1bfIxLPOQ5bF4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wro1VJ1kxvzx; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C186E24648; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307114230; bh=anrgF9B7ZIerzEqs6sBES5ObyFiDq1oFWL6hZDJ9 Ilw=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=kCFKpMlDuW0+aQoGmgF6aQfrWjFggnaEhqg1wpvxgA4ZPKc0/5 F0zmVKBFcoVlQAnEuXlmuj9fhp3y2r/ltJbiTp8dI2927IaC4lE+Ud/NShwaov1t+Ng FGb4Bh8sEq4h0GKMrJQF03L6CSla63pUvPdUO24JqlfDyYcGOfunZE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF954E2465C for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:16:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3lpMUL+sgGV for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73670E24648 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QSW7I-0001yj-1p for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:16:52 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Referenced and Proxy pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:16:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail> <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 722 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WCJUt_ePnnwA:10 a=qWQjMz0CH3IA:10 a=eh7fDCqbAdkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rAS6lFFiGpCuEoFIF6UA:9 a=cHiJzs1OuU-p84KVqZ8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=kAYU7QV4lx0gIjWI:21 a=keowJ0vKgdTOKVcV:21 I've combined your two replies into one message: In message <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > In message <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail>, Gavin Crawford > writes >>I have a 33Mb document that consists of a large number of hi-res >>images, all referenced, but all set with a low-res/quality proxy >>image. When loading the document it takes just under 5 minutes to open >>the document window after d/clicking on the file. During this time >>there is repeated flashes of the HD LED in bursts, as if each >>referenced image is being loaded and a new proxy image being created. > I would not think the proxies should be recreated, it would obviously > take a lot of time and be undesirable. The thing which does spring to > mind is that OP may think the images have changed - different timestamps > maybe and that is making it refresh the proxies. No nothing has changed with the timestamps, and saving then re-loading still makes no change. >>David, the document in question is the knitting book "A Stitch In >>Time" which I sent you a copy of back in 2009. > It is a great book. I am happy to hear it was done with OP. I may have > forgotten but I don't think I took that in at the time (doh). Yes, that's the main reason I sent it to you to. It was produced using Ovation Pro on RISC OS, and also using a bunch of other RISC OS software such as ArtWorks, Photodesk, DPlngScan, plus a few custom ones of my own. I've done some other books since that one, also in OPro but nothing as big only 80 to 100 pages. In message <4byLgQE$kN6NFwJR@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > Oh hang on. There is an option to check for fonts in graphics on load, > kinda like missing fonts in documents. I wonder if that is the problem - > graphics all Draw files? Yes, that's it - Fantastic! With 'Check for missing fonts' unselected it now loads in a staggeringly fast time of 5.47 seconds. Which is a massive improvement compared to waiting almost 5 minutes. Thank you so much for that suggestion, it makes the prospect of doing the volume 2 much more appealing. There's about 125 ArtWorks files in the book, all containing large JPEG images, which now I think of the loading process and each one having to be scanned for fonts, it's no wonder it was taking so long to open the document. Gavin To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 3 21:45:00 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QSbB9-2dnGPo-02-CKG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:45:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QSbB9-2dnGPo-02-CKG; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:41:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QSbB9-2dnGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:41:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QSbB5-00045t-L0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:41:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7770E2670F; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307133659; bh=kfMzw6ano1LhH3fdNY2idH6lfkSpxXUxNH+d/oCi Ok4=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=QLiY18DqkBI9gc/euxWvf3lcCdPbwShZ4ZDODgvP9uFpwJMLec R36tf43PjPiZVtrbVHOpYrGfdI87R5xBRU3XC2SXDcybzjaRjOMFjDQl6aN7EwH8OBb JK/keeHzGa8bJS/UoLjzLN8b29g49TC0HjIEw4NpZ9kZTx5q05QgCs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id URlIoLPTjsYk; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E47F2E22AE1; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307133658; bh=kfMzw6ano1LhH3fdNY2idH6lfkSpxXUxNH+d/oCi Ok4=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=iZGkUonthYCb5A0NAlm/qKNywE6f2cBboy+EXRrH95ndTJuurj 8JqxBPuYjIgdlbyzdIzn8leOfmsNKUPRzdqW+rfeU3pcc11cVaUTJ86205bazYIdOYC b5RZUzR00la4neveG29NfZIHAyloOvW7oGVYmhJKb9eYbAlTWpZi/8= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:40:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6ADDE23BB8 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5kiexhx+nlWQ for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DCD92E22AE1 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QSbAe-0006Ez-mW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:40:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:39:19 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Referenced and Proxy pictures References: <95928bdd51.Dentrassis@mail> <96oaIKDVXN6NFwrU@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 723 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5Qtx5TdRoDUA:10 a=qWQjMz0CH3IA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=u5P2-pW2gDEg9tVQ9hsA:9 a=sj9YyiJ_VmtYXs8v7e8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=jPjUJxXP1BVHU5T9:21 a=5sPwR3t-dfOoiFjm:21 Hi, In message , Gavin Crawford writes >Yes, that's the main reason I sent it to you to. It was produced using >Ovation Pro on RISC OS, and also using a bunch of other RISC OS I've been sent a few books produced with OP, always made me feel happy. I was going to set up a web page of them. >With 'Check for missing fonts' unselected it now loads in a >staggeringly fast time of 5.47 seconds. It would be cleverer to cache the font names or if there are any fonts. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling