From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 13 20:51:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHMxA-19Oknw-07-919.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:51:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHMxA-19Oknw-07-919; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHMxA-19Oknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHMx5-0000m8-I3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3A5FD50FCF; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289681037; bh=5H5/OPt2vuiJzP3jKrgFd9D41tQba2+Nc5+Bje1B MC4=; h=Message-ID:Content-Type:From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=qH1uri 6ny+tUW7buNsPJOdO6DFuVp1hPU7BnkhoXtbGreAJv1pXZbzvo377kUnbSbR7xkRswS TouAZeOL15JER/IEZj5iyaAe6dbmJIxPWSMjN+LFnA6O1J5LUan9D7LgXR0RO6kR0bA uA4VKu70mYYdRv21sEwRaUuHw+15L9A= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZmLRSMqaHVGj; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF2E6D50D6E; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289681036; bh=5H5/OPt2vuiJzP3jKrgFd9D41tQba2+Nc5+Bje1B MC4=; h=Message-ID:Content-Type:From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=irEFbK he2/zBwHPl+cfYyiaWkbpTIrtsxg0eF7/1E31bhG8HLcKwlqRKTP0lc4fFUh4wWMeWS vgXL7V/1+Py1SQD0Cep2abQe1UDPAoIiJqZZ62tj/2qy5IMES0w0XGaYOn5RS4dmZsj n7zIHgDf23jXmoB5/1Tfn8tKJsDpObU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E905D50F52 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PtFizBuyqrcJ for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from snt0-omc2-s31.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s31.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.106]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3B502D50D6E for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from SNT108-W62 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s31.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:43:42 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2cc30767-39dc-485c-b07e-21ab0a58a24d_" X-Originating-IP: [81.131.238.106] From: Angela Craggs To: Subject: [softwarelist] Error message when using a font (OvProW) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:43:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2010 20:43:42.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[757E24B0:01CB8373] X-archive-position: 255 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: angelacraggs@hotmail.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lTtJMrVTzsYA:10 a=J_jk8Rr2z4sA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=T4zXT7qOIe4A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=DWK0UJhz5rYA:10 a=LyFer_bRrNtDERZxYHkA:9 a=ZXfR_6FnRUQYcaHYiAMdquqD9i4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Npg1CZLy7ih5GY0-kJIA:7 a=UOyj9LwENl6hb7kNiiMIkdFYdIIA:4 --_2cc30767-39dc-485c-b07e-21ab0a58a24d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi =20 I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have just tried= to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this first time since upg= rading and I get this message. =20 =20 Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode =20 Makes no sense to me. Can someone shed some light on this. The font worked = perfectly in OVProW when I used XP. =20 Any help appreciated. =20 Thanks Angela = --_2cc30767-39dc-485c-b07e-21ab0a58a24d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi
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I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have just tried= to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this first time since upg= rading and I get this message.
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Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode
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Makes no sense to me. Can someone shed some light on this. The font worked = perfectly in OVProW when I used XP.
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Any help appreciated.
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= --_2cc30767-39dc-485c-b07e-21ab0a58a24d_-- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 13 21:21:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHNTp-1IYGPo-05-H10.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:21:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHNTp-1IYGPo-05-H10; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:17:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHNTp-1IYGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:17:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHNTk-0002O6-JY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:17:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D7F33D50EA9; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289683062; bh=kjDqKhSxJJCeK7HGRt34TQZEhm2OUCAIP5YQUz5d 5ZI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=l8NRK6mEGo4bm5b+w2hiZYDNpH7ziPduFjVXs1fpLtnX1I2Sid j70jP7k/O3DPAW0JCm4MTmg6DlD16F5h/6Tzf/RJdW8fZgIRj8egbhIQ9K6EgjzTTc0 jYRN+k5nS06gKJabHDzBIcviACUybXpOiEFZos5T6BfvEYm+/3+IvI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OkEhfuQRT4E1; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21959D509DC; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289683062; bh=kjDqKhSxJJCeK7HGRt34TQZEhm2OUCAIP5YQUz5d 5ZI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=l8NRK6mEGo4bm5b+w2hiZYDNpH7ziPduFjVXs1fpLtnX1I2Sid j70jP7k/O3DPAW0JCm4MTmg6DlD16F5h/6Tzf/RJdW8fZgIRj8egbhIQ9K6EgjzTTc0 jYRN+k5nS06gKJabHDzBIcviACUybXpOiEFZos5T6BfvEYm+/3+IvI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF991D509DD for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9MsfJHcvtoCw for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EED4AD509DC for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PHNTQ-00047f-al for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:17:24 +0000 Message-ID: <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:16:00 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=H-wmSr7Gysi4fc0HD3gA:9 a=kZRZYLcPoI-BLjsYq48A:7 a=jrh3W1hbNvQWPpSibQWxkAIoDuUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=gu3e8U63uDsjse_d:21 a=hW8n0BZT1xXQAcvy:21 Hi, In message , Angela Craggs writes >I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have just tried >to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this first time since >upgrading and I get this message. >Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode If you want to use Unicode in documents they have to have feature level 5 (or higher) you can set the feature level from Misc->Preferences->General. Presumably you're doing something that is trying to insert a character outside the usual range. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from SNT108-W33 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s23.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 02:57:16 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e349c9aa-86fd-4f99-bcd9-5fad6dca67a9_" X-Originating-IP: [81.131.238.24] From: Angela Craggs To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:57:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: ,,<515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> ,,<0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2010 10:57:16.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[B348F500:01CB83EA] X-archive-position: 257 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: angelacraggs@hotmail.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g-IHe4H_pacA:10 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=on1wGgx5RpwA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Cg_yM_DUAyAA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=NK--Y80suIjcTvRaFQYA:9 a=N_CfkFtzH8Q4UA37zJ0A:7 a=MZLqNk2O7QpC98LFuZyiECpL_J0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=7d6xSk-dKxKYgLCx:21 a=nVssDB4wdcw_6mYb:21 a=YUij4q_GhfXcYiFOcXIA:9 a=1nbbSrMOAqa3fK6rXGQA:7 a=nHPnJUgWIisc-_SytDrRSv2ZGkwA:4 --_e349c9aa-86fd-4f99-bcd9-5fad6dca67a9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brilliant! Thank you very much. I occasionally write in Greek script. Angela =20 > Date: Sat=2C 13 Nov 2010 21:16:00 +0000 > To: davidpilling@freelists.org > From: > Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > In message =2C Angela Craggs= =20 > writes > >I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have just tr= ied > >to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this first time since > >upgrading and I get this message. > >Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode >=20 > If you want to use Unicode in documents they have to have feature level=20 > 5 (or higher) you can set the feature level from=20 > Misc->Preferences->General. >=20 > Presumably you're doing something that is trying to insert a character=20 > outside the usual range. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling=2C P.O. Box 22=2C Thornton-Cleveleys=2C Blackpool. FY= 5 1LR. UK > fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing = --_e349c9aa-86fd-4f99-bcd9-5fad6dca67a9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brilliant! Thank you very much. I occasionally write in Greek script.
Angela
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>=3B Date: Sat=2C 13 Nov 2010 21:16:00 +0000
>=3B To: davidpilling@f= reelists.org
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>=3B <=3Bangelacraggs@hotm= ail.com>=3B writes
>=3B >=3BI have recently upgraded to a new comp= uter with Windows7. I have just tried
>=3B >=3Bto use my EFF Swiss G= reek font in a document for this first time since
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>=3B David Pilling
>=3B email: david@pilling.demon.co.= uk
>=3B web: http://www.davidpilling.net
>=3B post: David Pilling= =2C P.O. Box 22=2C Thornton-Cleveleys=2C Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK
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On 14/11/2010, "Angela Craggs" wrote: > >Brilliant! Thank you very much. I occasionally write in Greek script. >Angela > >> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:16:00 +0000 >> To: davidpilling@freelists.org >> From: >> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) >> >> Hi, >> >> In message , Angela Craggs >> writes >> >I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have just tried >> >to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this first time since >> >upgrading and I get this message. >> >Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode >> >> If you want to use Unicode in documents they have to have feature level >> 5 (or higher) you can set the feature level from >> Misc->Preferences->General. >> >> Presumably you're doing something that is trying to insert a character >> outside the usual range. >> >> >> -- >> David Pilling >> email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk >> web: http://www.davidpilling.net >> post: David Pilling, P.O. 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83572D4D83A for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:39:58 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,195,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="230181543" Received: from unknown (HELO qpc) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2010 12:39:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:39:56 +0000 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) Message-ID: <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> In-Reply-To: <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 259 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xEJdhdrxZ6OeDMgSyUAA:9 a=OkFkPq8RKZ_HqD5WtacA:7 a=r2ej2-TJ0tfwLhevtlE1ofLJt2EA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=u4qmBG_m6dQDC3B7:21 a=hmBujeRVKyzdhyMu:21 On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:16:00 +0000 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message , Angela > Craggs writes > >I have recently upgraded to a new computer with Windows7. I have > >just tried to use my EFF Swiss Greek font in a document for this > >first time since upgrading and I get this message. > >Document feature level not high enough to use Unicode > > If you want to use Unicode in documents they have to have feature > level 5 (or higher) you can set the feature level from > Misc->Preferences->General. Same problem but, running under wine, trying Misc -> Preferences give an "access denied". Where are the preferences, please, so they can be chmodded - or is there another method? Martin -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 14 14:00:39 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHd6r-1N5knw-08-9uU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:00:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHd6r-1N5knw-08-9uU; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:59:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHd6r-1N5knw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:59:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHd6m-0000FI-Cz for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:59:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F38BD50F32; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:59:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289743142; bh=Da5HYJnQeG+X+shXjURh3KmkcXbxC2ksqHqTgDyu kK8=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Fw+Dg3v9uD+aa6DvKsQa9Xp907MnqS1pZDX2F7R2U5cZjZ1p+7 FM3FfgxZxaIqjtBw6ptC7yQuZKVJy3dKw/85YcPCGli8yG+lYC0Z1w6b37McVcBo1L2 93BSReJqQoK+g1xup3m56WjehRGbJuQArNM04rGQiTIhTKvlapMSxs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RLis5Z2hEDcq; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65F10D50EA9; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:58:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289743141; bh=Da5HYJnQeG+X+shXjURh3KmkcXbxC2ksqHqTgDyu kK8=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=SYjJmwtYWUMgtaEtSG4bSHtn6irQJAELC8o4IJ/yxskuN8sM+r QiRCmkR7zdCCCUXySCfJHlWss5BKvCMzH73TDmwxI2uR46eLvkqwP6j/7Ij3k8KQoZi I3ZvaI6PNvOdoT30H78tCG9KJE1q38H1Tl4WkhsMl8WCeW/qwCRWeM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:58:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3C478D50F06 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:58:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JU33YfI-1JfA for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6288D50EA9 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PHd6T-00073n-Xg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:58:45 +0000 Message-ID: <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:57:09 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> In-Reply-To: <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 260 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ItmsO5_0EFnwxyuyNFwA:9 a=ogU2Tg497_YHbDfjRb0A:7 a=ThS9hS100uDBXnGBtAm8S9zVhekA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5bBrSMlxp8mJGgs6:21 a=3kIzREGKd0MSml36:21 In message <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc>, Martin Devon writes >Same problem but, running under wine, trying Misc -> Preferences give >an "access denied". Where are the preferences, please, so they can be >chmodded - or is there another method? I wouldn't have thought opening the Preferences window would give you a file access error - if that's what you're getting at. Preferences are stored in documents, and then there is a copy on disc which is used as a default for new documents. I could understand you getting an error when trying to save preferences. Preferences on disc are OP script language files, so everything that can be saved is set via a script language function. So you can always execute a script language function, say via a macro to change a setting for your document. As to the preferences file, with things that a user might change, there are often two copies, one in the main program folder (i.e. where you install OP), and another one where Windows saves user choices. The user choice copy takes precedence. User files are saved somewhere akin to: C:\Documents and Settings\David Pilling\Application Data\DavidPilling\OvationPro where the first "David Pilling" is replaced with your user name. Preferences would be in the AutoRun sub folder. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BF08CD4F6F8 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:29:22 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,195,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="238313957" Received: from unknown (HELO qpc) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2010 15:29:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:29:21 +0000 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) Message-ID: <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> In-Reply-To: <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 261 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EShUHNC7li10rVN4Uf0A:9 a=FXZdsTzC2jV0jDfjX4IA:7 a=ikGguRK8qChZmBm4tJCRA3-wNLQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=B2LuNbCp09O41sa5:21 a=UPQvwKLBVgRApvfx:21 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:57:09 +0000 David Pilling wrote: > In message <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc>, Martin Devon > writes > >Same problem but, running under wine, trying Misc -> Preferences give > >an "access denied". Where are the preferences, please, so they can be > >chmodded - or is there another method? > > I wouldn't have thought opening the Preferences window would give you > a file access error - if that's what you're getting at. Preferences > are stored in documents, and then there is a copy on disc which is > used as a default for new documents. I could understand you getting > an error when trying to save preferences. > > Preferences on disc are OP script language files, so everything that > can be saved is set via a script language function. So you can always > execute a script language function, say via a macro to change a > setting for your document. > > As to the preferences file, with things that a user might change, > there are often two copies, one in the main program folder (i.e. > where you install OP), and another one where Windows saves user > choices. The user choice copy takes precedence. > > User files are saved somewhere akin to: > > C:\Documents and Settings\David Pilling\Application > Data\DavidPilling\OvationPro > > where the first "David Pilling" is replaced with your user name. > Preferences would be in the AutoRun sub folder. Thanks for this. Under wine, the locations are ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/DavidPilling/OvationPro/AutoRun and user files are at ~/.wine/drive_c/users/(name)/ApplicationData/DavidPilling/OvationPro/AutoRun No user data has been saved and the latter location contains only !Tags.csc. Clicking on Misc -> Preferences gives an error Access Denied (GetScrollInfo) (5). However, all the files seem to have sufficient access by chmod. Could the problem be that under linux it is not possible to create a file named !xxx unless in the form \!xxx ? Fortunately, the RISC OS version runs happily under RPCEmu, (so long as the latter stands up) except you can't print from it :-( Martin > > > -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 14 16:15:43 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHf6H-42cknw-03-GRa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:15:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHf6H-42cknw-03-GRa; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:06:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHf6H-42cknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:06:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHf6B-00055y-Sp for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9E24FD4EFF0 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PHf5s-00025d-aW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:06:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:05:01 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> In-Reply-To: <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 262 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xwBPifvMb1EL9THb5k0A:9 a=HTnT0iQN3X2QhEcozXoA:7 a=8bWLmeIW1CJtNKTLV2DB86vhrkgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pvyjP8wXDkLGglrc:21 a=8fjLdZMgOdSb72bn:21 In message <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc>, Martin Devon writes >Clicking on Misc -> Preferences gives an error Access Denied >(GetScrollInfo) (5). Yeah, it's nothing to do with files on disc, it is something like a memory access or access to window data. ISTR this has come up before as the show stopper on Wine, not necessarily this particular window. I seem to be using Linux more and more. So you never know. It'd not be too bad to do a full Linux version, but I fear for how long it would take. Windows took longer than writing the whole program for RISC OS. If I could put in say three months and finish it, then I would, but three years is not on. Andy Ling had a problem with a Windows add on a few months back, I think the solution to that might be the solution to the Wine problems. Of course I didn't fix Andy's problem but I came to the conclusion it could be fixed easily. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:50:13 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,196,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="238327560" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2010 18:50:12 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9035025A002 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:50:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:50:09 +0000 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Error message when using a font (OvProW) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.0.3327 (Qt/4.6.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 263 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tWFVmx9XnoTo_xUfpbwA:9 a=fKjqniw5YrlKS1r0ZgQA:7 a=CmxyudSR2r0A8x7kHSwfu7bbadYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=oijkgw3tiXo2IeUX:21 a=qxHcOSphG31qmoxJ:21 On 14 Nov, David Pilling wrote in message : > Andy Ling had a problem with a Windows add on a few months back, I think > the solution to that might be the solution to the Wine problems. Of course > I didn't fix Andy's problem but I came to the conclusion it could be fixed > easily. If it were, and you had time to do the work, that would certainly be appreciated here. Even with limited functionality, OPW is already very useful under Wine; having it all working would be even better, though. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 14 19:00:49 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHhgI-2MVGPo-08-DrZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:00:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHhgI-2MVGPo-08-DrZ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHhgI-2MVGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHhgE-0002A1-NY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 264 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UqwypJuuZRcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VVsU-3Mg7KJ-1dLlxQcA:9 a=NTV6QlTWk2piSAdzdUIA:7 a=DY4b2MS6mwF5vJs9z-VOGvM_ZiwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=u87qSJN6e8ZcK32z:21 a=OYUYaqHECW-IQXi3:21 On 14 Nov, Martin Devon wrote in message <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc>: > Fortunately, the RISC OS version runs happily under RPCEmu, (so long as > the latter stands up) except you can't print from it :-( Printing works fine here. Use Printers from ROOL, along with PrintPDF or similar, and feed PDF files to the Linux side. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 14 22:15:53 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHkgZ-1Fuknw-08-ArI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:15:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHkgZ-1Fuknw-08-ArI; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:04:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHkgZ-1Fuknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:04:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHkgV-0001r1-Ld for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfilter10.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter10.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.10]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 91D0DD4DE5A for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:04:07 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkFAJ/r30zLbfjh/2dsb2JhbACDQJEYhiyIRa0oj0CBIoM1cwSKVw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,197,1288522800"; d="scan'208";a="82671386" Received: from 225.248.109.203.static.cust.vf.net.nz (HELO fricka.khnet.nz) ([203.109.248.225]) by cust.filter7.content.vf.net.nz with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2010 11:04:05 +1300 Message-ID: <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:03:45 +1300 From: Keith & Elizabeth Hopper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 265 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: qnh@asgard.org.nz Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=V6NvXSO0SbK9h4H_r8UA:9 a=FsMsVpWp-6-yg9QH4w8A:7 a=DJoCVdRTD18unTy_GajLufdVMtoA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 On 15/11/10 05:05, David Pilling wrote: > I seem to be using Linux more and more. So you never know. It'd not be > too bad to do a full Linux version, but I fear for how long it would > take. Windows took longer than writing the whole program for RISC OS. If > I could put in say three months and finish it, then I would, but three > years is not on. That -would- be interesting, particularly if the UI was written using X11 APIs - it could probably also then run native on a Mac - which comes with an X windows library/application base. It does, of course, run happily using VRPC on a Mac! Keith Hopper To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Nov 15 11:48:59 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHmN9-47D000-06-9Ai.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:48:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHmN9-47D000-06-9Ai; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:52:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHmN9-47D000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:52:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHmN4-0002Pm-Qq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:52:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04BACD50D5C; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289778749; bh=3rJB68B4l1Z0JZjqGoafLCJvGggPTeXb15mf2wwj qTs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=jgg1cbNhzZSWbmCc2VlUzapoCJJBS4B0jk9XkwmphslpuQEBiN MZwm2a5z04rw4p/uoKxCaeeNaoV4P4Jn5RXYmFwYFIlXejZpowzyfNln1qEvmWLpWb6 BuLWCF41BtiEq8cE03fT9bFRIcXBKMhphWDlCh+0UdfeXTrwjdFZ2Y= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qdUr7FKkcGxo; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D3F2D5094B; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289778748; bh=3rJB68B4l1Z0JZjqGoafLCJvGggPTeXb15mf2wwj qTs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=dd/6p6YuYhQiI3EIMs3BeCRw2jo8DaH1mCIjQefmn2TpRqIT+U E8PhZocKT3cRNbSGiPBNTkNMNaIzBHdLo19qpHXOtjGoEfixEbcMtUYn4PLkEdlazLS zgVaA1Bn4yIH7OGOShzN/5kvtG9db7rzH9W3wHQLoE1Br8/b/EXMZw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3BFCED50D1F for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1bYFpwpUcLbZ for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hel.is.scarlet.be (hel.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F87ED5094B for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hobbes (ip-83-134-169-231.dsl.scarlet.be [83.134.169.231]) by hel.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oAENqApx019371 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:52:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:59:42 +0100 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux Message-ID: <0a43487651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.21) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-archive-position: 266 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=nMjLqBIenXoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=civAzdLvAAAA:8 a=9qxNCY_qAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=n05va4osHCKFnp0Gs5YA:9 a=yhZZn4F1QYybmt_ZhU0A:7 a=-AqGapGsfzQUjsjaV-C5uwikYRMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 In message <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> you wrote: > On 15/11/10 05:05, David Pilling wrote: > > > I seem to be using Linux more and more. So you never know. It'd not be > > too bad to do a full Linux version, but I fear for how long it would > > take. Windows took longer than writing the whole program for RISC OS. If > > I could put in say three months and finish it, then I would, but three > > years is not on. > > That -would- be interesting, particularly if the UI was written > using X11 APIs - it could probably also then run native on a Mac - which > comes with an X windows library/application base. It does, of course, > run happily using VRPC on a Mac! I'm not convinced this is the best plan. You will never end up with a Mac application which a typical Mac user wants and expects it to be. Using QT (http://qt.nokia.com/) is IMHO better approach (and also could cover the Windows port over time as well). John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Nov 15 11:49:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PHvPc-4Wfknw-03-8el.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:49:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PHvPc-4Wfknw-03-8el; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:31:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PHvPc-4Wfknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:31:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PHvPR-00019w-80 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1BE9ED50F38; 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Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66DB8D50CAA for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oAF9VA6T012473 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:10 -0500 Received: from tord@mindless.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id 3.c11.4f528363 (37107) for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-db08.mx.aol.com (v129.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB085-5c804ce0fdd6d6; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:05 -0500 Received: from web-mmc-d04 (web-mmc-d04.sim.aol.com [205.188.103.94]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v129.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB038-5c804ce0fdd6d6; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:02 -0500 References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114123956.2fcfe3c5@qpc> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <20101114152921.19369c09@qpc> <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:31:02 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 85.228.100.8 In-Reply-To: <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tord X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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charset="us-ascii" I'd agree with Keith - love how GIMP behaves under Mac OS X! Tord =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Keith & Elizabeth Hopper To: davidpilling@freelists.org Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 11:03 pm Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux On 15/11/10 05:05, David Pilling wrote:=20 =20 > I seem to be using Linux more and more. So you never know. It'd not be= =20 > too bad to do a full Linux version, but I fear for how long it would=20 > take. Windows took longer than writing the whole program for RISC OS. If= =20 > I could put in say three months and finish it, then I would, but three= =20 > years is not on.=20 =20 That -would- be interesting, particularly if the UI was written using= X11 APIs - it could probably also then run native on a Mac - which comes= with an X windows library/application base. It does, of course, run happi= ly using VRPC on a Mac!=20 =20 Keith Hopper=20 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilli= ng=20 =20 ----------MB_8CD52BEF44551ED_1044_14E8_web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I'd agree with Keith - love how GIMP behaves under= Mac OS X!

Tord




On 15/11/10 05:05, David Pilling wrote: 
 
> I seem to be using Linux more and more. So you never know. It'd not= be 
> too bad to do a full Linux version, but I fear for how long it would&= nbsp;
> take. Windows took longer than writing the whole program for RISC OS.= If 
> I could put in say three months and finish it, then I would, but thre= e 
> years is not on. 
 
  That -would- be interesting, particularly if the UI was written= =20 using X11 APIs - it could probably also then run native on a Mac - which= =20 comes with an X windows library/application base. It does, of course,=20 run happily using VRPC on a Mac! 
 
  Keith Hopper 
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Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C81ED4F16B for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PIKGP-0002FZ-c2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:03:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:02:14 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux References: <515fec4833riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <0f+aCtEQAw3MFw0W@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4A3pV3C1q+3MFwUp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4CE05CC1.8000509@asgard.org.nz> <0a43487651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: <0a43487651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S (<$wrE8dZ+I+NFOTS90QF1TeUvl8>) X-archive-position: 268 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=9qxNCY_qAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=vawzUkMH26_6c0EZurUA:9 a=SAVekASRirXeSsMWZE8A:7 a=KTyb-leEciuqqfZaQVt-Cr2_XQMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=VVXx7EhyTJ0K5VGf:21 a=BK0vjLXiwrui8t9D:21 In message <0a43487651.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com>, John Tytgat writes >Using QT (http://qt.nokia.com/) is IMHO better approach (and also could >cover the Windows port over time as well). Good idea - before rushing to tie things to another platform. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Registered address: Turnpike Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2NX, United Kingdom To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Nov 16 18:33:14 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PIQHS-3Jf000-08-Bsz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:33:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PIQHS-3Jf000-08-Bsz; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:29:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PIQHS-3Jf000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:29:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PIQHP-0002q2-Ms for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:29:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84FE8D5005A; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289932158; bh=watMDNCmoVcYc0CoT+Nv0baoAAPil+T/+mio1tzL TLE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=FGCjf8YmODQuhaeot00DGLbnRV407IYMaTGMdbXhE+Gh+xqA8J +NJyrt83YobuvD07i0TZjsxIbpFfYc8//2Grd07wBO6wcMCqOX4OeRyxM6B5jQ5n60a nSOqkxxhbiNGN9tgJtoSZ48n/usqefSsm4mS8u09gSBslj8p+O4a8E= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id COXqibTbDlDw; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D80F4D50085; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1289932157; bh=watMDNCmoVcYc0CoT+Nv0baoAAPil+T/+mio1tzL TLE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=hHqGBnik61h3biQI20lpuaTIoWw85HRotoVb/H9PTOcY9eLGUx gAHgFVxskcTII8GLsa2ks0A6RKQml/gNsnBinPrsnHMnXLmZOesesrdVusq7GhX4GfW QEQyKHv7l9BhqGJPMJB3QFJNyw8xb9hr9fgcA18Kg628BOckiLU/C8= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3BC8D4FE2E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2EYcc9DqiOuA for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD876D500CB for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PIQH7-0002gt-my for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:29:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:27:30 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and linux References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S (<+imE8Vt7I+dWWTS9FBH1Taca+Z>) X-archive-position: 270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dYEVMWyeAAAA:8 a=pBOR-ozoAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FywZ-IqgleKcSpuzANAA:9 a=o5uRPgt86qxLT-i5F6UA:7 a=RxhW2XUKsc8JUkXsA6rDrwFoFgcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Skpf-qo106oA:10 a=X8AI3XbnaroGrNo4:21 a=UGA4TFnRw_XxstzB:21 In message , andy.ling@quantel.com writes >Just re-write it as a Java app, then it'll run on anything :^) >Andy Ling Yeah, when we had this discussion before, someone pointed out that TextEase (I think) had been done in Java, and I went off and tried it, and it was very good. I've always said that I think some of the serious typography and printing features in OP would not be possible via a generic interface. I saw this book reviewed recently, might be of interest: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1846683017/ref=sr_1_1 ?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289931908&sr=1-1 -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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It's now on my wish-list. 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Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0750D507A6 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20101118111854.BIJR26766.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:18:54 +0000 Received: from PC01 ([86.4.6.22]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20101118111854.NYHQ25656.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: "David Pilling \(softwarelist\)" Subject: [softwarelist] Pictures referenced to ADFS:: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:20:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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It's a bit late for me now but a useful idea is to set up (say) HD4$Path to point to ADFS::HardDisc4.$. then make all references to files via HD4: When the time comes for change, it's then a simple matter to change HD4$Path to HostFS::HardDisc4.$. (or whatever). This is obviously useful for all referenced files - not just referenced pictures in OvationPro. Wish I'd thought of that a few years ago! Grateful for any help with the existing references, however - or is it another late night with a bottle of scotch? Regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Nov 18 12:44:58 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJ3lx-2bAknw-05-F14.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:44:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJ3lx-2bAknw-05-F14; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:39:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJ3lx-2bAknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:39:29 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJ3lr-0006lr-GB for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:39:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89FF7D509FD; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290083961; bh=8990+Xny9meVP9qVjTIEd8e0c3QbKup14ILjr+wJ H2A=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=PQGbJoBYvmoFjlPlr7oGiYPZcAZ1u+1Uuej6tTjl2MW1aRtH4l U74/R4G/5Zfip8y5ya08JyPer35m8WrRIO/5JkMg/R/dnv9cK/ChAMAm/fWIQSiFiXp Wc9eX07cPYViX3m9j2FJVHX7Q11t4ME9QzGyT1L4YdTej+QTw6vE8s= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SXJgZj5YfyUv; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B679AD508F3; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290083960; bh=8990+Xny9meVP9qVjTIEd8e0c3QbKup14ILjr+wJ H2A=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=CfW8xUvEpa+XqnBFefarFuMHQsmdieBAsSfB8soVWoYC7y4zlN EojRPp/6kHMjL5KGQ3/crYJjjMaSiFwYYMGVsbcdv+S45mKCmLde1/OG3xOrvgiFcmE SK3WTPh0JzPWZBlSmI8vIB0f4hGAaH22CcPgsfOeqVNEFWauGUQwLk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77A79D509A9 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kfcMpwOakAQ for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EB9C2D508F3 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJ3lZ-0001S0-Xk for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:39:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:37:27 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Pictures referenced to ADFS:: References: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> In-Reply-To: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 273 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AjtBkPCyA-8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=r-fFOaIC8CQD-eAVpXYA:9 a=IqHSgXyemHpSs2GqvegA:7 a=qEGFzx2VH2rreSXvUhEPWy94ErAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=3hnP-ZxwH_M_eBUM:21 a=HtlfwFsXktw6IAoA:21 Hi, In message <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01>, John Grogan writes >Having decided to move from my ageing Iyonix to VRPC, I realise that I >now have hundreds of documents with pictures referenced to ADFS:: Is >there any way of changing these to point to HostFS:: other than the >obvious? There are lots of things you could have done... using system variables, using macros in OP. I think I recently hit on the idea of using a macro that called a script function - gives great versatility. I think the manual recommends using document relative paths. Actually that gives me a useful thing to say, there's an option "collect pictures" which will put all your pictures in one place and change the paths to point there. Of course you may want to use the same picture in lots of documents and keep it away from the documents. There is nothing to stop you using the collect feature with lots of documents in the same folder - so all the pictures end up in one folder. What you'd really like to do is alias ADFS:: to HostFS:: it sort of sounds plausible, but I can't think of a simple way. I'd not be surprised if someone has hit this problem before with other software and worked out a solution. The solution I can think of is to write a filing system - a very simple one that maps all ADFS paths to HostFS ones. Then you come to things like using a search and replace program on the documents and cleverly changing ADFS::$ to i.e. a string the same length. Perhaps someone can tell me if there is a program that changes binary files and can be launched from the command line. ISTR once writing something called "fileofix" [1]. There's that program Paul Beverly had written to do clever changes to files (can't recall the name or if is text files). This latter suggestion seems reasonable if you can find a search/replace program. This crystallises my thoughts, I should add an OP event "referenced image path", which would let people stick in code to map paths as they wanted. [1] you can tell how long ago that was from the name being a play on "file o fax", I think it came on the Hearsay 1.XX discs. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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You could always use the hexedit mode of emacs. Write a little bit of lisp to do the search and replace and give that and a list of files to emacs as a command line call. I'm sure there must be an easier way though. Andy Ling -- This e-mail is intended for the named addressees only. Its contents may be privileged or confidential and should be treated as such. If you are not an intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete it; do not copy, distribute, or take any action based on this e-mail. In the pursuit of its legitimate business activities and its conformance with relevant legislation, Quantel may access any e-mail (including attachments) it originates or receives, for potential scrutiny. Quantel is the trade name used by Quantel Holdings Limited and its subsidiaries. Quantel Holdings Limited is registered in England & Wales. 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Registered address: Turnpike Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2NX, United Kingdom To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Nov 18 14:00:00 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJ4sR-0XXVbs-06-Dua.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:00:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJ4sR-0XXVbs-06-Dua; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:50:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJ4sR-0XXVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:50:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJ4sO-0003BL-Ud for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:50:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 886D8D513FA; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:50:09 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290088209; bh=sbhJoOI678+Rg1aVfBL+DPbeSjzVeck8CZ/NHPIb jTw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=gSGBek0gBpxi3dggrr5M1ekqKQMijeaU+S9XCyem+KtjTA+rd8 1o1HU1uJi3vVk4EQPj4WaDRyvnWdrPcavew6ksb5I4zJ6MrBxLEKlpKFBzNNeG8OGxW NR+IN5kkhGgdbJFUXfQw8KSzsJ9L8J3c4ICGYUF7sAP0DdRjJJv8aU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XpTsMuQggXLb; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D63CCD50A00; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:49:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290088208; bh=sbhJoOI678+Rg1aVfBL+DPbeSjzVeck8CZ/NHPIb jTw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RXGb9e18mA7ozLl7Pave7Xgy1eJ+hOGZ0AfHys+mroTkZELHsA N00xVL2lXYqm1mEC08KbCfKsLZY/wkqLQF1d7/66B7IOQf/Qf+EVt2YAjATbf5Ch75p xgA2ZyYugeYCvG9Zxb/16TjysXoahGx75CETOTR7HITxHaRR6tgB4I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:49:55 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5112D50A44 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:49:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3fUCAlCHKFrr for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18EB8D50A00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJ4s5-0002IJ-cH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:48:22 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Pictures referenced to ADFS:: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 275 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AjtBkPCyA-8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dYEVMWyeAAAA:8 a=rbgw_CJUAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EEUHbqHcbpo7kiUA8lEA:9 a=dhX20dKokkVvuF-Uj4EA:7 a=sjK5b4dQAZw0axk3iRQJ07XvI30A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Skpf-qo106oA:10 a=p4rbCSaAofAzRkl2:21 a=tKa-xJCH4cPA8HF4:21 Hi, In message , andy.ling@quantel.com writes >You could always use the hexedit mode of emacs. Write a little bit >of lisp to do the search and replace and give that and a list >of files to emacs as a command line call. Way back I thought EMACS was great, but I ran it on Linux last week and it looked a bit old fashioned. A quick Google for "search replace files RISC OS" gave this, which looks likely: http://www.melhuish.info/simon/projects/download/misc/replace.zip -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Write a little bit > >of lisp to do the search and replace and give that and a list > >of files to emacs as a command line call. > > Way back I thought EMACS was great, but I ran it on Linux last week and > it looked a bit old fashioned. > Wandering a bit off topic now, but.. I guess it depends what you want/need. It is still a very competent programmable text editor. It's GUI is definitely a bit dated, although it has been updated fairly recently. It even handles embedded images now. But if you're looking for a full blown programming IDE with all the fancy code awareness that comes with things like Eclipse (or dare I say Visual Studio) then don't bother. Andy Ling -- This e-mail is intended for the named addressees only. Its contents may be privileged or confidential and should be treated as such. If you are not an intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete it; do not copy, distribute, or take any action based on this e-mail. 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Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C53C3D50CDD for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:14:33 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAOLt5ExUXebj/2dsb2JhbACiU3G/CIVLBA Received: from outmx01.plus.net ([84.93.230.227]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2010 17:14:31 +0000 Received: from bapfish.plus.com ([84.92.151.71] helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJ847-0004C0-F4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:14:31 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Pictures referenced to ADFS:: To: "David Pilling \(softwarelist\)" From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:14:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> In-Reply-To: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 277 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AjtBkPCyA-8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=za4w0eyWZ8C47oioNWAA:9 a=JA_fCmze3UvuX6gyK60A:7 a=02Xo6Qj3XbMKBURl-8gludfOcXoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=G2yMQkHciYzL55gj:21 a=HaoPwPTjyBt99-ik:21 In message <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> "John Grogan" wrote: > Having decided to move from my ageing Iyonix to VRPC, I realise that I > now have hundreds of documents with pictures referenced to > ADFS:: Is there any way of changing these to point to HostFS:: other > than the obvious? > It's a bit late for me now but a useful idea is to set up (say) > HD4$Path to point to ADFS::HardDisc4.$. then make all references to > files via HD4: When the time comes for change, it's then a simple > matter to change HD4$Path to HostFS::HardDisc4.$. (or whatever). > This is obviously useful for all referenced files - not just > referenced pictures in OvationPro. Wish I'd thought of that a few > years ago! I realise it's too late now but I use as an Ovation Pro reference such as: {filepath}.^.Pictures.picture/jpg For this to work, you need the folder 'Pictures' in the same folder where the Ovation Pro file resides. All the pictures obviously reside in the 'Pictures' folder. The resulting Ovation Pro file and folder of pictures can then be moved around between other folders, RISC OS computers and Windows PCs with the same reference working on all of them. 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Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4CF0BD51874 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([82.152.164.83]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAIHW67K031409 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:32:07 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Pictures referenced to ADFS:: To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:32:06 GMT Message-ID: References: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 278 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AjtBkPCyA-8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VlEi0UIAyrvq6DC_BzUA:9 a=NOvWesCXO4pGZNPoCYIA:7 a=SlwPjZ0Ap4EU2pi9z43QsJem3UYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=yckXIlfYKNZmEiht:21 a=7H0F5NAMI097xpCr:21 In message Bernard Veasey wrote: > In message <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> > "John Grogan" wrote: >> Having decided to move from my ageing Iyonix to VRPC, I realise that I >> now have hundreds of documents with pictures referenced to >> ADFS:: Is there any way of changing these to point to HostFS:: other >> than the obvious? >> It's a bit late for me now but a useful idea is to set up (say) >> HD4$Path to point to ADFS::HardDisc4.$. then make all references to >> files via HD4: When the time comes for change, it's then a simple >> matter to change HD4$Path to HostFS::HardDisc4.$. (or whatever). >> This is obviously useful for all referenced files - not just >> referenced pictures in OvationPro. Wish I'd thought of that a few >> years ago! > I realise it's too late now but I use as an Ovation Pro reference > such as: {filepath}.^.Pictures.picture/jpg > For this to work, you need the folder 'Pictures' in the same folder > where the Ovation Pro file resides. All the pictures obviously > reside in the 'Pictures' folder. > The resulting Ovation Pro file and folder of pictures can then be > moved around between other folders, RISC OS computers and Windows PCs > with the same reference working on all of them. > Bernard Unless something like a fake filing system can solve your problem, I suspect you will end up having to use the DDL route. Basically, for each file, save as DDL, edit the ddl, and do a global search and replace. I haven't used it, but it sounds as though Keystrokes might be of help here. Finally load the DDL back into OPro, and save normally. You will lose some settings relating to views, e.g. scale, facing pages (I think, not sure about that one), but it basically works. Laborious though. Check default print settings too. One thing you might hit - if a missing picture is on the page that opens first, the viewing window will become extremely small. There is about a 1mm strip of it over which menu button presses work. Usually it will be enough to call up save and choose DDL. If you want to do more, use view, options, and untick pictures. You can then return the document to normal size. Rather than using the DDL route, for simple documents you can simply replace the pictures, providing you know what they should have been. Having done the above step, to turn off picture viewing, you can now see the references, and find the originals. Another trick - triple-click on the picture to open the properties window, which shows the scaling and offset. WHILE THIS WINDOW IS OPEN, drop the replacement picture into the frame. Then close properties and the original settings will be applied to the "new" picture. After learning all this, I changed the settings to embed all pictures. The problem shows up if you move a document between Iyonix and VRPC, or anything else that changes the filing system name. Housekeeping on the pictures directories gets messy too. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Nov 18 18:15:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJ8xM-1EQknw-03-9pf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:15:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJ8xM-1EQknw-03-9pf; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:11:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJ8xM-1EQknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:11:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJ8xD-0003KB-8l for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:11:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B98E8D51773; 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Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E0BD2D5170E for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20101118181049.XNKW23441.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:10:49 +0000 Received: from PC01 ([86.4.6.22]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20101118181049.TZUY25656.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:10:49 +0000 Message-ID: <26767BAE43A6496F897560FFFC294CD8@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: References: <7AB34BA62EED45D8BFBFA768BAEEDDF5@PC01> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Pictures referenced to ADFS:: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:17:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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After a bit of experimenting with StrongED, it looks like the simplest way forward is to "superzap" the binary OvnPro documents - i.e. replace the "ADFS::HardDisc4.$." with an equal length string " HD4:". OvationPro is perfectly happy with the leading spaces (hurrah for OvationPro!). I should add that the documents are scattered over a multitude of folders and the pictures concerned are of the global type (e.g. logos that appear all over the documents) so cannot simply be referenced locally/relatively. I don't generally bother referencing pictures that only appear in one place in one document. I think that a quick C program to search for Ovation documents and do the necessary editing is likely to be my approach. Thanks & regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:47 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJUVR-1Oiknw-08-Dr8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJUVR-1Oiknw-08-Dr8; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:12:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJUVR-1Oiknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:12:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJUVQ-0001UQ-KN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:12:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AAD1CD5195A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290186730; bh=zTpYfwu3LekEFJoaQ316sFlLchXaLy6XqSYkbr38 HYI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=CKB8GrTn68DsWCNvP9og8BxXdoNrK 2udXzk9Uc+XV+z+ESXot07wiy+bnbzLzj6Ra+pP8EfqNTeeOKdx5YwY+WZUz8zO09FB 6PS8wwVhGTUwlKgdeHJvxAS8V985PfUBvJr7XqqNnWb5pmqW287iniLwzFRkavE6FhB UPZgnEz0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3GjeBN0KSp9m; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D166FD518AF; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:11:56 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290186729; bh=zTpYfwu3LekEFJoaQ316sFlLchXaLy6XqSYkbr38 HYI=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=KaduNMcnjd/4KqKqxjNxmnwfYDExS y+j8R5nO4Wb2JpiCP/GBpWsse0bxAfOnnmO9eZagg70iMmfnzEm5grXWHjyFomfclGW ep8jD8C+BVX6i8qw4ku327IREObdCEQQZPiEsujNpwls3N/2QzidXxKVIQ0VTnhOgsq NIW14gAI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:11:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1CE6D5180C for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:11:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z-b9dYMC3fwo for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 03AA9D5190D for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.138.122]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAJHBiSG021810 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:11:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:08:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 280 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WAkM80HsBlzkyeD5PmwA:9 a=lgkeMdU0gmWMvZvOia8A:7 a=jHpaEm2S9Qp0rFwfmtbQxSmN1x8A:4 a=UJIs4WUsDGCHN7pP:21 a=hlPq75TdMxsbiUN6:21 Hi folks, and David. I have this problem I can't get around and it's driving me up the wall. Small test OvPro document inside archive at the below noted address. http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/Testpik.zip In Ovation Pro, click the graphic so that it becomes an active picture. Do-menu-Picture and select 'Process'. Now increase or decrease the Brightness, or Contrast by a single number in any direction + or - Here the graphic jumps in size so I can only see the lower part of the D and the bottom of the left leg on the A. If I Ok it in this state, then expand the frame, the other parts of the graphic have vanished, leaving just the above noted parts. Cancel brings the graphic back to size. 1) Why is the graphic getting larger? 2) Why are the other bits missing? All I wanted to do was tweak the graphic a bit in the document before printing it (The document) and here I am two days later still fiddling around trying to fathom out what's going on. Dave Auto Scale is Off BTW. Even if the frame is made much larger than the graphic, the process still chops the graphic. It doesn't only happen to this graphic, same with others. Btw. I have printed the document, I did a Ctrl double click to shove the graphic back in to paint for the tweak. But for future reference I want to know why. D. -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:48 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJUjW-2M8000-06-Dd3.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJUjW-2M8000-06-Dd3; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJUjW-2M8000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJUjK-00041B-9k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E3DDCD51A24; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290187592; bh=MXLHSaQj43CyeAuOR1BJWN7N5yGMWSg+MnQP/cUK JSE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=uA509x 5kmFKewQzQb1YobnvPSWRs1LmBbnPz7wiWXiH+pN1MV8uM/A8Iw2ERXDcy9XcbP6WpG lwbQOi3TbUsvSPMyEVIALZFBI5Vzy+pKFKXzeu0qwmCY1aBEZwYswpAXhht3xiCDlQk WhUawDIajAW5Rfi/Vd0n8J3I5nNNThU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NdLrrkodK+cj; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 43A33D5181E; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290187590; bh=MXLHSaQj43CyeAuOR1BJWN7N5yGMWSg+MnQP/cUK JSE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=q+2mDK keozCBdHATPjTIrqFMI3I6n/l81OMW1HvWNw1/EecItLWyt4Hz3v9QJu9d697tPkYGp NXZqN9iC6bvyuMnRMaSdALtFVXq4zNUzpJjIecbVGBgc+1Ngbdzt+BndOwcUnQzkqr8 K5JdJOxQlU+CtRsIJl5pKMz75LD/LdQ= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D075D51826 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YUuJ4NxjqXSG for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82167D5181E for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:26:15 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4FALpB5kxUXebr/2dsb2JhbACUX44Ccb1qhUsEkFU Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2010 17:26:14 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJUj0-0007Al-3X for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:26:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 281 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=dmnqcYzko42ZNGiRsFYA:9 a=lnDKngbJ8xG8jbHuDY4A:7 a=1I5aoRBti6uLMp0wmkqSFQUaopcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_lWGx-WaspSOdnoT:21 a=HvuVhvhKYZuo_PRa:21 In article <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I have this problem I can't get around and it's driving me up the > wall. Small test OvPro document inside archive at the below noted > address. > http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/Testpik.zip > In Ovation Pro, click the graphic so that it becomes an active > picture. Do-menu-Picture and select 'Process'. > Now increase or decrease the Brightness, or Contrast by a single > number in any direction + or - > Here the graphic jumps in size so I can only see the lower part of > the D and the bottom of the left leg on the A. I assume you are using OProWin. Here under RISC OS 5.16 on an Iyonix, everything appears to be doing what it should be doing without any problem. 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(brian.jordan9@81.132.104.60 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2010 17:46:11 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4ksiPhKswBD.ObC6KqQydMwTxNfQPzekNynQkioUBx_0S.V1snKSDe8- X-YMail-OSG: p9gZUuUVM1lNz_smf80ULfXxNQmDpIbPl1ZyUqiHN1NBknN zrTYD0oAsC6INdzIdCWlmxrLcRiOmeinJg_IPw2jISlBLFH6lVpRViBsxzDi aDwky2vnt8dSaiRrz9PRarYt10lGXRFNmWCLer1P6mMnb4yGuC5goFeiaMEe QlQVLtq3TFqvL4spD38Hvn74NB3ZwqjYPuS9Fl4Xodakbbo_pHLi5AjXxI1. MS8fYhQgB0Ln6Pvp31xxCvQC3pnWwVjhZo2UwsE3E4PSiqT8YPJfjBrQr.Hi UD_GeKF.zzvL7C0FbUYcpRcUxyAXOjqyB1bj0NRrI1oVG X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Jordan To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101119-0, 19/11/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 282 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.jordan9@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=0JnS22kIvKgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Y_Gm3iYLM0hMGtXwo_0A:9 a=UK_6IBbXEYlt8QalwoIA:7 a=1SXl7mQ9mDhB9C65uM_tRX2oF1oA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=w_B75WzU9FrM4MuR:21 a=SL05KPxPuhttc1QZ:21 On 19 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > wrote: > > I have this problem I can't get around... [Snippo] > I assume you are using OProWin. Here under RISC OS 5.16 on an Iyonix, > everything appears to be doing what it should be doing without any > problem. Not much help to you, unfortunately. As Dave's message was posted from Pluto using RISC OS 6.20, I wonder if he might be using Ovation Pro on the same machine. I use 6.20 as well on Virtual Acorn and out of interest I can replicate Dave's problem repeatedly. Sorry I can't offer any answers so far but I can see why Dave is up there on the picture rail. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Brian Jordan >From somewhere in North Hampshire. England. 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Ecartis needs it. // apppost 4CE6B882:33A8.1:qnivqcvyyvat >From cstage@ntlworld.com Fri Nov 19 12:48:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EEE7D50886 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:48:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dZsq+ai5SkBu for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 456B4D518A7 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so4761184wyg.10 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.142.84 with SMTP id p20mr2561977wbu.182.1290188926890; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from MrsFezziwig (know-mailgateway-3.server.virginmedia.net [62.254.26.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a17sm1257548wbe.18.2010.11.19.09.48.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([82.4.34.205]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:48:45 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 82.4.34.205 Message-ID: Reply-To: "Colin Carnegie" From: Colin Carnegie To: References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Graphic problem Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:48:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Hi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Symes" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Graphic problem > Hi folks, and David. > I have this problem I can't get around and it's driving me up the wall. > Small test OvPro document inside archive at the below noted address. > > http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/Testpik.zip > > In Ovation Pro, click the graphic so that it becomes an active picture. > Do-menu-Picture and select 'Process'. > > Now increase or decrease the Brightness, or Contrast by a single number in > any direction + or - > > Here the graphic jumps in size so I can only see the lower part of the D > and the bottom of the left leg on the A. Here, in both OvPro RO (RiscPC RISC OS 4.02) and OPW (Vista HP) all three processes - Brightness, Contrast and Gamma - behave exactly as they should... Sorry not to be more help. Best wishes, Colin Carnegie. 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Please can someone enlighten me? Many thanks, Chris Bell. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:50 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJWR3-3u5Vbs-03-BvW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJWR3-3u5Vbs-03-BvW; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJWR3-3u5Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJWQx-0005Ix-8n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6FB77D51824; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:15:37 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:15:21 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4FAI1b5kzUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACUX44Ccb1khUsE Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2010 19:15:20 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJWQZ-0005mY-MH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 285 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=C5ykURMjIMqHBl6-qH0A:9 a=jd958RMQiSZN_hqXt3EA:7 a=2fCiXTyGYW_v-3g3B9_8Bwf5ldcA:4 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=zBfoZGJkawfyHQcT:21 a=j5WagmbSv_La06ns:21 In article <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > On 19 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > > In article <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > wrote: > > > I have this problem I can't get around... > [Snippo] > > I assume you are using OProWin. Here under RISC OS 5.16 on an > > Iyonix, everything appears to be doing what it should be doing > > without any problem. Not much help to you, unfortunately. > As Dave's message was posted from Pluto using RISC OS 6.20, I > wonder if he might be using Ovation Pro on the same machine. I use > 6.20 as well on Virtual Acorn and out of interest I can replicate > Dave's problem repeatedly. Sorry I can't offer any answers so far > but I can see why Dave is up there on the picture rail. One thing with RISC OS 6.20 that has caused some apps to throw wobblies is the 64k colour screen mode - is there any possiibility this is involved? -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:50 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJWTG-1aQknw-02-BtJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJWTG-1aQknw-02-BtJ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:18:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJWTG-1aQknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:18:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJWTB-0000FV-Nf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:18:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B180D51757; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:18:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290194280; bh=m2O1Oklo7932Yc5sm5QIwDEWLwS8iFacJ7CoOz0h bc0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=mWAfS7 h0oijLpSPhj9mKKgnWO0Hh6JTxNL62JhtNpLvLCz4+MkvKsrl78I/TG6fQZkIZ8lSye q/qK02pJztFd60sZPeuy/7v8qFaPSOXlKrZJb1YJw/Sz6+2MjVUPrbxUx7GjHoARm9d d49jiYE3QndA7+ic95lBaVcMknCYe3w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3u-rild8ifvL; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B16FBD50A4A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:17:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290194279; bh=m2O1Oklo7932Yc5sm5QIwDEWLwS8iFacJ7CoOz0h bc0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=j5tfIb Dpm0298Xk+QMQOiEWLT9hmG2FTCJ5o2fwsdlXxCAfXeSXB/7xSlnnuG5amLji2hPpAP 0LyMDa9i0PPUW+EC0q1s1YJ+Y6hZF6dLD8+TX6WJpR4arMIZwxc+Olw2kTfYhrVtm5a Qpjqz8IOyeRWWw/CzpSllG8Vr5hDEZI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:17:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B3B0D50A97 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:17:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4WlGsqaijQh5 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 056CFD50A4A for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.210.132]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAJJHeY4023881 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:17:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:08:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178c0cc47dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5178bc69a2chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178bc69a2chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 286 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=oMLsDqxl7D8bdb3daPcA:9 a=aI68MFX19tnhgeutYZsA:7 a=DrQPtr4J1wk8C4MLEGJP2jP75wwA:4 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 In article <5178bc69a2chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, > > > I assume you are using OProWin. > I based that assumption on the filename in the archive, which was > 'testgraphic/dpd'. Nope! I'm using it on the RO OvPro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) As I use OvPro on both RO and Windows and transfer documents between them, I tend to .dpd them out of habit. The problem does *not* happen on the Win version of OvPro Recently cold booted this SARPC, problem is still there. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:50 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJWal-4RBVbs-03-Blo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJWal-4RBVbs-03-Blo; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:25:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJWal-4RBVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:25:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJWaf-00010v-5N for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:25:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 17C97D519C1; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290194742; bh=SoxrSnElGSITqDCctXJ40pj8UI3dfoxvKw6q0azT SuY=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=OA8O7u bD6U3hAn9baTHtu5NCUq30kQw09btA63MRPrRpTuTbsTPfF1AeHDpOsYa/RiuHcMyig KcWRgy/Tbgo5V+WepFjaO1V42mO/XMVexhayTt0S3/P+3Zsiy1EmYyYAl6dlb5GQ/4U cmld6usTyJa1+XRKKscMJs4noOR3on4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hXdlR8nILDZq; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32293D51142; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290194741; bh=SoxrSnElGSITqDCctXJ40pj8UI3dfoxvKw6q0azT SuY=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=wo9mRC T3TczQB2h13gSe640IWNEtYguK/wxDP2DnY/pJnjZDXPFsmvM+e0NVNc1ohqoZzHWkJ YzI4f75+s2dTv2sFPGO7dR+NJKk8ZVSivWm+nik4xUarY8x8N4nj820VVjrK/IeJua7 dyQOYxjpXVMrLTZDR6OeQrI2fOADSws= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A71D8D51899 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qCumYGuA-9hF for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DACAD51142 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.210.132]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAJJPLdB024001 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:25:22 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:25:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 287 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yiRCyIbmVQV3fzLCGe0A:9 a=qk6dm_lAMgoIa8xbsiEA:7 a=bGP7THGIt7Sq9TBG0tBfOVZ_b4oA:4 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=0mrmtN12vbGmaCjz:21 a=9cedp3I0KBJHmOxH:21 In article <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, > Brian Jordan wrote: > > On 19 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > > > In article <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > > wrote: > > > > I have this problem I can't get around... > > [Snippo] > > > I assume you are using OProWin. Here under RISC OS 5.16 on an > > > Iyonix, everything appears to be doing what it should be doing > > > without any problem. Not much help to you, unfortunately. > > As Dave's message was posted from Pluto using RISC OS 6.20, I > > wonder if he might be using Ovation Pro on the same machine. I use > > 6.20 as well on Virtual Acorn and out of interest I can replicate > > Dave's problem repeatedly. Sorry I can't offer any answers so far > > but I can see why Dave is up there on the picture rail. > One thing with RISC OS 6.20 that has caused some apps to throw > wobblies is the 64k colour screen mode - is there any possiibility > this is involved? Guess I should have been a bit more explicit. (Undoes trouser Zip) ;-) Machine: RISC OS 6.20 Ovation Pro: 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) Same thing happens with any bitmap graphic I use. I've just tested it on a RO 4.39 machine and the same thing happens. BUG...BUG... As previously posted doesn't happen on the Win OvPro. 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Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:39:21 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4FAI+L5kxUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACUYI4Dcb1IhUsE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2010 22:39:20 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJZc0-0004Fb-88 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:39:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:38:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 288 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3xxWQfm-0IQ6tyogvEsA:9 a=uIh-OuFWZH2eHZDZsUQA:7 a=LAWoSy-rXk1Kg4AgFPeS65r_38EA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=hbRX_oGMNXYhRQoG:21 a=jjH0JZoygsL1unb4:21 In article <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Machine: RISC OS 6.20 > Ovation Pro: 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) > Same thing happens with any bitmap graphic I use. > I've just tested it on a RO 4.39 machine and the same thing happens. > BUG...BUG... > As previously posted doesn't happen on the Win OvPro. Well, I have gone through your instructions again, and everything is fine. I cannot get any oddities to occur. The obvious differences are RISC OS 5.16 (Iyonix) and my version of OPro is 2.77 (5 NOv 2009). I am not sure what the difference between the two versions of OPro is, but obviously not sufficient to make me do the upgrade. Chris... -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJaI4-2ANVbs-01-Gb1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJaI4-2ANVbs-01-Gb1; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:22:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJaI4-2ANVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:22:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJaHy-0007er-90 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:22:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 235C3D51989; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:22:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:22:23 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4FALOU5kxUXebr/2dsb2JhbACUYI4Dcb0yhUsE Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2010 23:22:22 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJaHe-00008A-73 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:22:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:22:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 289 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=nmg14MjFfRcJuH0KR6QA:9 a=pZSY1MHA5LMceFL4xXgA:7 a=OhWzrxqTTO82Z5-RsJG7IiHbwwIA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Uym9-04dVONOY8g9:21 a=j5TzUJsq3ytGMyZv:21 In article <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > Machine: RISC OS 6.20 > > Ovation Pro: 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) > > Same thing happens with any bitmap graphic I use. > > I've just tested it on a RO 4.39 machine and the same thing happens. > > BUG...BUG... > > As previously posted doesn't happen on the Win OvPro. > Well, I have gone through your instructions again, and everything is > fine. I cannot get any oddities to occur. > The obvious differences are RISC OS 5.16 (Iyonix) and my version of > OPro is 2.77 (5 NOv 2009). I am not sure what the difference between > the two versions of OPro is, but obviously not sufficient to make me > do the upgrade. And now installed the 5 Jan version, which also works fine on your example document. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJat5-3tGknw-08-G00.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJat5-3tGknw-08-G00; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:01:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJat5-3tGknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:01:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJasz-0002Vx-P2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:01:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71C84D51896; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 290 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4iEoacXGgtBlTIS0lfQA:9 a=rsnh7lOhZYAqaxIYDSAA:7 a=cz3hnxT2kju-QV13vnhh2K79Uq0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 I have tried to import a PDF on Windows 7 the original work was done on OpenOffice but it fails what steps are needed. Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:54 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJh9q-2vlVbs-06-9jF.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJh9q-2vlVbs-06-9jF; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:42:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJh9q-2vlVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:42:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJh9l-0004w6-1T for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:42:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BC74D52164; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290235358; bh=7rb/7V5QYOh8utSk2PvbMnDRjexaNWxiX+Phsqd2 TMs=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=kVODLvckQQrGp8ZcBlQKRcHWomFPnrk3MKdfVwvEmFJRhdzQ7k dRuQwctC4G94j2VYA5hg0dDDYGgwFZNdKX3U9m+xyafnIDSaeRzBfkMnLygqcxdxlEo E0CNzXBaC924MsO3oy9/IZA1IadvXk76iHxgeQrLM6Bjkk4WrogtlU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zuTcEsHVgaat; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5616D51928; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290235357; bh=7rb/7V5QYOh8utSk2PvbMnDRjexaNWxiX+Phsqd2 TMs=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=E8TxuRz2bu9CciyU+4C+w5XAM4A8nfAR2jxM3Ks0b+7RqZP5kS 2ps0NtT3kB5KwdDmilLo8cZGf8wSV5qSNnhMBC+20tNrB6jQNNyRly882Nabno2/nZm ajXlwUQqBzFNyW1v1J1mrcx2N+gZEZT0H5Jfa/UZEX5O3Qkt+j9LRE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 67A85D520D6 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4vYbH7gkU5xR for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28564D51928 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.162.176]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAK6gFiP001633 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:42:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:42:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Graphic problem Message-ID: <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 291 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OTTuMxHDjRqjGApzdyMA:9 a=QL7Ujimyd6BIY5EYAYIA:7 a=F1jOk6_2GsOqBtqQWSX4XsBgUYMA:4 In article <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: [Bit 'O snippy] > > Well, I have gone through your instructions again, and everything is > > fine. I cannot get any oddities to occur. > > The obvious differences are RISC OS 5.16 (Iyonix) and my version of > > OPro is 2.77 (5 NOv 2009). I am not sure what the difference between > > the two versions of OPro is, but obviously not sufficient to make me > > do the upgrade. > And now installed the 5 Jan version, which also works fine on your > example document. Thanks for giving it a go on your system Chris. I've been ferreting around a bit more... If I create a new document, using the same graphic images on an old OvPro 2.77 28th Jan 2009 version, then the process works okay, I can then take that document into OvPro 2.77 05th Jan 2010 and it will still work correctly OTOH. if I take the 05 Jan 2010 document to the 28th Jan 2009 version and attempt the same process, the problem presents there. Perhaps a herring... I dunno, I need to think about this... Okay, I'm going at this in a different way. The graphic itself is quite old and had been part of my paperwork heading for many years, but it had been through Paint again earlier this year, and IIRC the newer version of advanced RO Select Paint have some strange components in them. I'm going to process the graphic through DPlngScan which, being a bit old in the tooth, generally ignores newer Paint features. Drop the resulting graphic back into the OvPro document and see. Well, upon returning. The Plngscanned graphic now back in the document, do Menu-Picture-Process and it all works correctly. Now for some fun. Open new document, create two boxes, put the old graphic in one, and the Plngscanned in the second. Do, Menu-Picture-Process on each one... The old graphic obviously bad, the Plngscanned graphic works correctly. Nuff said! Well that's not actually what I said, my version was more along the lines of... Naughty words to do with human waste. ;-) Anyway, bottom line is, if anyone else has this problem, just re-process the graphic through DPlingScan then stick it back in the document. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:54 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJjUm-3ogVbs-02-Fup.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJjUm-3ogVbs-02-Fup; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:12:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJjUm-3ogVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:12:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJjUZ-0004zp-Hh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:12:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9AF57D5017F; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290244336; bh=KsAXNQg9sXqRROOP4AsMZiL7RxtgTxTGvnyjx3ls v0c=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=lYu5Qieb4T+ATcui5p+ILF3fuzkKEOnpzYu7NoBnTdJdIEc4PF +Jz9aD4yn5gzzTwu4YrbrdJdoCRqpd/mLp31WUh6idc2zihjgA/7kvtSQumxRQxMVaJ R6hIRi8heY5L6aDfx1LbnpQ0xYXvLDwN+goW+PnDhPvmN9iWnbI5UE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7LYQCEbJPev2; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9C71D4F44B; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290244335; bh=KsAXNQg9sXqRROOP4AsMZiL7RxtgTxTGvnyjx3ls v0c=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=bloRW3C4v9PJJDS4sdGxRANGVvseW+C0CZ/UxW4nF95XknePE+ HoHZQsOAw8EA8qv1YF3m1VTq4c6us338Bc8wJIac+jn2EMXMhH6YEKwST18sC+bHb9y ySWeSEtbUpUF9oLiHIqb+maPdkEPSChj8/YCAiO61yQfS5YqKlFYOI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EAF8D4FB62 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5LLf5tHCMuD for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18943D4F44B for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.86.209]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAK9BsXg003790 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:11:55 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Graphic problem Message-ID: <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 292 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=R09svE50INQhkWgebU4A:9 a=B87Opluau9BdvHYs3MgA:7 a=Fzor4RcJgx63fJUTgSB4I2pEERUA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=UCuANkeHPrbcwNRn:21 a=PYB5nR5KRHsef6up:21 In article <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: [Snippy] > Okay, I'm going at this in a different way. The graphic itself is quite > old and had been part of my paperwork heading for many years, but it had > been through Paint again earlier this year, and IIRC the newer version > of advanced RO Select Paint have some strange components in them. > I'm going to process the graphic through DPlngScan which, being a bit old > in the tooth, generally ignores newer Paint features. > Drop the resulting graphic back into the OvPro document and see. > Well, upon returning. > The Plngscanned graphic now back in the document, do Menu-Picture-Process > and it all works correctly. > Now for some fun. > Open new document, create two boxes, put the old graphic in one, and the > Plngscanned in the second. Do, Menu-Picture-Process on each one... The > old graphic obviously bad, the Plngscanned graphic works correctly. > Nuff said! Well that's not actually what I said, my version was more > along the lines of... Naughty words to do with human waste. ;-) > Anyway, bottom line is, if anyone else has this problem, just re-process > the graphic through DPlingScan then stick it back in the document. > Dave Continuing with the ferrets... Though I didn't mention it before, when I DPlngscanned in the previous posting, I reduced the resolution from 180 to 90. So... The original graphic is 180 x 180 dpi, if I drop it on Paint (2.70) and reduce the resolution to 90 x 90 then stick it back in the document, that also works okay in Menu-Picture-Process. However, if I take the 90 x 90 graphic and increase the resolution again to 180 x 180, stick that in an OvPro document, the problem returns. So with the graphic at 180 x 180 doing Menu-Picture-Process make it jump large and get cut up. Guess what happens if I make the graphic 45 x 45 dpi and do Menu-Picture-Process on it... It suddenly jumps to being very small, occupying just a quarter of the original frame... Click Cancel and it's back to normal size. I have no idea of the minutia of what's happening in OvPro... (Obviously 45 is a quarter of 180) So all things considered there must be some niggle/breakage in OvPro. This menu option is only supposed to be adjusting the Brightness, Contrast and Gamma, not resizing images, that's in another menu option "Modify picture". Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJkqo-3qJ000-06-EYn.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJkqo-3qJ000-06-EYn; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:39:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJkqo-3qJ000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:39:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJkqm-00033M-MK for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:39:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC4FCD50DB1; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290249558; bh=uRC26qy6gpjz5qhUooB1I0zCpoT2/gSq9IJObx+K PxM=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=P4M6xLR46j2ruY1MLGJS77pDoHZnJ +3NRkq+y4IjTscqGmwqVqJZSKJNwnYCvSXd4bcjr1Nb0jhGP/aGlATyiwFPDWts6jr3 uhfYZJqcoZF4aeWMYAt+12O8czfOnZOraHsDGGq2u9mlnpkJBVG5XRofY+FiPitlsfz d7L/zSHI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CkISszqqO4ig; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 572EED50CE2; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290249557; bh=uRC26qy6gpjz5qhUooB1I0zCpoT2/gSq9IJObx+K PxM=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=KTqq23LouAaxUSvjt+dSogCmtuidQ 0RpW8InFz+I06DAhfxxxTnI1q5IgNV88K2tNb0cdpEpw6CHdtUdJ6Ah71lkVTW4WnZV NxCxkHziiVNZMSoWT/bbnH67I8tbnK4IbnsB70fLsOwJ8hKKQGSxRXhRhUdfyCrZOpq VkFds91I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 227E2D50D0B for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iuGYb4d0ok1 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A33C8D50CE2 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from maypolecottage.demon.co.uk ([80.177.208.118] helo=standalone.Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJkqT-0007IV-gi for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:39:01 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Piicture menu items To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: JV X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:39:02 GMT Message-ID: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 293 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: groups@wellowvillage.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kwwwyVaPnUoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=H5oW12MfL6Ah2WuI9jEA:9 a=EubcXoxPym7XC_lO83YA:7 a=QuzDaSGvvu6k-c3MLvUbU6WBjbsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 Hi Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. If I do-menu-Picture I get: Modify picture...F6 Info... Reference... Proxy... Where do I find 'Process' please. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:57:21 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="240287301" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 10:57:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A1D25A002 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:57:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:57:17 +0000 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro definition Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5178bd9d1elists@highpath.net> References: <5178bd9d1elists@highpath.net> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.0.3327 (Qt/4.6.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 294 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=X3dXStoUr8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lQkeLoolAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VVsU-3Mg7KJ-1dLlxQcA:9 a=DNBsKQJb3AxftftgRTYA:7 a=Q7oAXYlwXImQirEGGA2kmA3RuAEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IEUhiB9JQM8A:10 a=TAFXVHkAeaq9Jk1F:21 a=wqvS8hkthcxSDAAf:21 On 19 Nov, Chris Bell wrote in message <5178bd9d1elists@highpath.net>: > I'm sure it's possible to define a macro button to open the "Picture > Process" dialog box (Document menu > Picture > Process...) but I can't > work it out. Please can someone enlighten me? openprocessbox() ? The Process... and Screen... menu entries are added by the Colour Supplement applet, and aren't in the OPro core. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJlCF-3Dtknw-03-EDM.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJlCF-3Dtknw-03-EDM; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:01:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJlCF-3Dtknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:01:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJlCB-0005nb-KL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bordernet.com.au (mail.bordernet.com.au [203.221.25.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78187D50FE0 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20372 invoked by uid 89); 20 Nov 2010 11:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (farmstay@203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with ESMTPA; 20 Nov 2010 11:01:01 -0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Piicture menu items To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:55:00 +0800 Message-ID: References: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 295 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q8oYtpJdHNAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l7zfdoVOAAAA:8 a=CrC5jg2TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=069R-MrrqaK3cU6gwAQA:9 a=jyt4Actwfb8V0tz7R1kA:7 a=7jDg8TkGit3xerj_MHMR1dPW2ukA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mbfbyJfBYQAA:10 a=uzess3muRvaYt7vf:21 a=B-CRG1gFD9ihLpDp:21 In message <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> JV wrote: > Hi > Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. > If I do-menu-Picture I get: > Modify picture...F6 > Info... > Reference... > Proxy... > Where do I find 'Process' please. Seems you are like me - it isn't available. If I go to my Iyonix and run OPro then it is there. Hasn't been available on my various copies of OPro running on VA > JV > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJlSq-1TG000-02-Dwl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJlSq-1TG000-02-Dwl; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJlSq-1TG000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJlSo-0004dh-2v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0789D5145E for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:18:21 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="232036993" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 11:18:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A19B25A002 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:19 +0000 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Piicture menu items Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.0.3327 (Qt/4.6.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 296 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q8oYtpJdHNAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=l7zfdoVOAAAA:8 a=CrC5jg2TAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=g4D23vUdnXJntWLrIVgA:9 a=U2_N1HS6Fqjl-441C14A:7 a=GvaWExLgWAPlHjJUNiE6y8Hp1CoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mbfbyJfBYQAA:10 a=WaCwdnAEAFq4ajvl:21 a=OjvMLl_-Iyu7OQ40:21 On 20 Nov, Ross McGuinness wrote in message : > In message <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> > JV wrote: > > > Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. > > > If I do-menu-Picture I get: > > > Modify picture...F6 Info... Reference... Proxy... > > > Where do I find 'Process' please. > > Seems you are like me - it isn't available. If I go to my Iyonix and run > OPro then it is there. Hasn't been available on my various copies of OPro > running on VA As I wrote in my other post: you need the Colour Supplement applet installed to get Process... and Screen... at the end of the menu. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJlT2-13G000-07-DwZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJlT2-13G000-07-DwZ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJlT2-13G000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJlSz-0001ZJ-Eu for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9D1CD51474 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:18:31 -0500 (EST) X-Trace: 417122148/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/opal-ip-space/89.243.250.85/None/richtm@uwclub.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 89.243.250.85 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: richtm@uwclub.net X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsUFAOo950xZ8/pV/2dsb2JhbACUYY4DcbsRDYU+BIpegwIm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="417122148" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from unknown (HELO riscube) ([89.243.250.85]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 11:18:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Travers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:18:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Piicture menu items Message-ID: <51791995a3richtm@uwclub.net> In-Reply-To: References: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 X-No-Archive:yes Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 297 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: richtm@uwclub.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q8oYtpJdHNAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=l7zfdoVOAAAA:8 a=CrC5jg2TAAAA:8 a=sG_fqCoiAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Qcp6SdijshnOonjaxHAA:9 a=SLR-KXqNChMCT2T1e-YA:7 a=5GAzxdNEFK7droMjeUGTQXXgRQ0A:4 a=mbfbyJfBYQAA:10 a=A7VkY_w2LbQA:10 a=VejkDBORKm9510eD:21 a=OZuEO4BCANBtARZ2:21 In article , Ross McGuinness wrote: > In message <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> > JV wrote: > > Hi > > Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. > > If I do-menu-Picture I get: > > Modify picture...F6 > > Info... > > Reference... > > Proxy... > > Where do I find 'Process' please. > Seems you are like me - it isn't available. If I go to my Iyonix and > run OPro then it is there. Hasn't been available on my various copies > of OPro running on VA Available here on OvPro 2.77 (05 Nov 2009) on VA running Risc Os 4.02, though, and working properly to boot (i.e. Dave's picture did not jump in size when processed). 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:19:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18A49D5169B for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:19:01 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="232037477" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 11:19:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D95725A002 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:19:00 +0000 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PDF import Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.0.3327 (Qt/4.6.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 298 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VVsU-3Mg7KJ-1dLlxQcA:9 a=S5SOeZ1oQplwiX-DqJwA:7 a=wYMwKhWMTW9tN8CXpsQmfqpUrKoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SJHXfkWgYoMJNBlE:21 a=gplA7xFt2_H9xI_5:21 On 20 Nov, Peter Prewett wrote in message <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net>: > I have tried to import a PDF on Windows 7 the original work was done on > OpenOffice but it fails what steps are needed. Import the PDF into what software? -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJlhz-0u2Vbs-05-Dhc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJlhz-0u2Vbs-05-Dhc; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:34:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJlhz-0u2Vbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:34:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJlhw-00006j-6s for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:34:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FD4CD3C869; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:34:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290252854; bh=63bbNhkHtNyvvPIs9R2RoLr9b+iFOGQYIvBAwG8E 6XU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=uzOP7s 9Zpy+Ng+nXEktRT96EAZcbgWWbof9MJMv0rKOzY/2Zn9KLI4XxcZMZUOy5Ew0jaFWDm /kvDwE4+/0Gwr0yynijYu3TLFEvDVFkzpg6Z0r9mPE6o+r33ZlPMWuywWh6ycSChqR9 5fqEI2GSMnzquOCmPe+yYS6x9nUekZ4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1l6tr0JyS4YO; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4166FD3C830; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:34:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290252853; bh=63bbNhkHtNyvvPIs9R2RoLr9b+iFOGQYIvBAwG8E 6XU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=LdOTYK 7WCjEfkkDYmANmrv7AP8ePskcmRkGGc+4p9abh4DuIgfduz1oJaduWSfwKZ96CaeSoB sYDlmVWeH1neY0iAYpcPfUxNdQtAm+/SLXypgv2QYBu1lZMH7AixDC9VR7uhG07rSMd f8gezIiX+tw+WryCOstAssKFqsvThPs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:34:00 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0D1FD3C833 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:33:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04jqHfIVdcd5 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97AECD3C830 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [88.97.42.81] (helo=chris.Cornant) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PJlhd-0002eo-Oh for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:33:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Bell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:33:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Macro definition Message-ID: <51791af787lists@highpath.net> In-Reply-To: References: <5178bd9d1elists@highpath.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [88.97.42.81] X-archive-position: 299 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@highpath.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=X3dXStoUr8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GKbSv5GHEU2mJ2ABo4kA:9 a=bFGrIdKEn1B1u3bChYAA:7 a=M-LddW_CH5cktIitFUOyAx-b1RcA:4 Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 19 Nov, Chris Bell wrote in message > > I'm sure it's possible to define a macro button to open the > > "Picture Process" dialog box (Document menu > Picture > Process...) > > but I can't work it out. Please can someone enlighten me? > openprocessbox() ? > The Process... and Screen... menu entries are added by the Colour > Supplement applet, and aren't in the OPro core. Thanks Steve. That works. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from maypolecottage.demon.co.uk ([80.177.208.118] helo=standalone.Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJli7-0002AN-iV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:34:27 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Piicture menu items To: davidpilling@freelists.org Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: JV X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:34:25 GMT Message-ID: <850b1b7951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> References: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 300 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: groups@wellowvillage.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q8oYtpJdHNAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=l7zfdoVOAAAA:8 a=CrC5jg2TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UUbeYbMmRDj_EfytHPYA:9 a=L7qjTH2QerJLqbi9EEsA:7 a=zNEDwtDhwIjoe-jp3ClNDFEpVC0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mbfbyJfBYQAA:10 a=0lk391rYKdMjaYfa:21 a=hXSfKvMRr1N3lRyn:21 In message Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 20 Nov, Ross McGuinness wrote in message > : >> In message <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> >> JV wrote: >> >>> Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. >> >>> If I do-menu-Picture I get: >> >>> Modify picture...F6 Info... Reference... Proxy... >> >>> Where do I find 'Process' please. >> >> Seems you are like me - it isn't available. If I go to my Iyonix and run >> OPro then it is there. Hasn't been available on my various copies of OPro >> running on VA > As I wrote in my other post: you need the Colour Supplement applet installed > to get Process... and Screen... at the end of the menu. Thanks for the info. !ColSupp now installed. JV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJmaA-49U000-02-CpR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJmaA-49U000-02-CpR; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJmaA-49U000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJma9-0006B5-Dh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AD2BD4F914; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290256216; bh=5DCAcTJCAOa3sS+KiupW2PAbMf+N68gWU1KBnLHr +dA=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=xhDGEKx9IM2r3emh9xikBqvyEMXE3g/C9VRCFWjcDYh/0G3QV9 m9XpE3vUo+vFaW6bgnBpaSbbFkIO7qLP9XF/A+/6fRm2PR2/awLEjyHnGAQLhty1U5L 0izR0mHL9CFY9RRRACBEDafaLJ5rzLM9hXJ+dOnhEKfirUmQOmgvHg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mr53j6uV+5P9; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2DCD1D4F8D9; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290256215; bh=5DCAcTJCAOa3sS+KiupW2PAbMf+N68gWU1KBnLHr +dA=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=s+iOHDkY3XF8H5jf5DlkE9MZ6mNjIVORxq3kECaBwv3GRvimy+ M1hsFfRLeB1/op+NjSI4N2Co7JSr+CAim4ltNvlK2xh94jWAhSeJbdhJAtrNajc2hTv FT/C7aii1pgZDrjxWUL67qNUc4BT72LCUKTHt3kONn6cClVWeEzxuU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2574D4F8D3 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VDy+A415vBTd for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail11.bluewin.ch (mail11.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57231D4F8BD for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:00 -0500 (EST) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.77.181.74] Epoch[1290256199] Received: from [83.77.181.74] ([83.77.181.74:7465] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail11.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 40/3A-13638-74FB7EC4; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:29:59 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Piicture menu items To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: <70891c7951.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> References: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101119-1, 11/19/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 301 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q8oYtpJdHNAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l7zfdoVOAAAA:8 a=CrC5jg2TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=069R-MrrqaK3cU6gwAQA:9 a=hpukZhKOps07VR-3kq4A:7 a=BsKSFXiswhg7bZJSzis5yKINMzEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mbfbyJfBYQAA:10 a=_rMP6nJLeGs5YAN4:21 a=-VKcNHEFdUC4xQbT:21 In message <81f9157951.JV@Maypolecottage.demon.co.uk> JV wrote: > Hi > Ovation Pro v2.77 06-Apr-2010 running on VA Risc OS Adjust 4.39. > If I do-menu-Picture I get: > Modify picture...F6 > Info... > Reference... > Proxy... > Where do I find 'Process' please. Process comes after Proxy, which is the followed by Screen. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:57 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJmaN-1vuVbs-03-CpE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJmaN-1vuVbs-03-CpE; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJmaN-1vuVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJmaJ-0003JM-Cy for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 54DEED5112D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290256218; bh=X2Grr6CjyxHLV7Cxu6SXAMrf6vwA0cjV2Mk/Nlmp CEk=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=JPcEYFGomYCdRwBbQbg88goKXrsM7OewsnylC+ycqwDhSnuHZt jobNNNYKag8HnEHSCKjMr0MZmJh+7kHpS5577FbD7g5voIXI2QL0L/2BvnJbbf0z901 o1cUY5XqQNJX8mKNrhgZOPDnNZjsfZURWuFEqI1AExl8aZm1xk2oJE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q7lvvQzrLvFo; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3054D4F8BD; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290256215; bh=X2Grr6CjyxHLV7Cxu6SXAMrf6vwA0cjV2Mk/Nlmp CEk=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=e/G0ZJALsDRR7SRmn+OBj8eRjvF4OVrSQMVfo+jn2Qv5THS8Yc jg9W2Ri9q/pvFS3ismiXI91Z8Rre+oSOQm9EQLT5e1Lfm4sZjoh4GVnd4i4t3TG5P7X M+s4rfL9v1Qt+/I/YJhtuI9uqmi7TTaF3zNu0LQd5TyfYUK4pYeBHc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6FCFCD4F8F0 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iO9YApJKT+cD for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail11.bluewin.ch (mail11.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 126CDD4F8BD for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:30:01 -0500 (EST) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.77.181.74] Epoch[1290256200] Received: from [83.77.181.74] ([83.77.181.74:7465] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail11.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 80/3A-13638-74FB7EC4; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:30:00 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:11:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk> <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101119-1, 11/19/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 302 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eg2DxSmURtl4FnRucvAA:9 a=PQbnPtAvLjhvK_tDfN0A:7 a=wZUijUVD6kRCNkzSvX2b6T-YaUYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=WbYNuzqm4-prFDEm:21 a=yXK1MblWjr_xdKK0:21 In message <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: [snip] I suggest you re-install OvationPro and update to the latest versions (RiscOS and windoze). I can in no way reproduce the effects you see. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 17:55:57 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJnE6-3Y7Vbs-03-CBV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:55:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJnE6-3Y7Vbs-03-CBV; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:11:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJnE6-3Y7Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:11:34 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJnE3-00074b-6D for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:11:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A9BDD4F9AC; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290258689; bh=QvgC2aCvpFeyFBllSat43UKz8ID8QwCW8xCbIuMU ZVg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=lQzc12 pFBFQvvNnideRrDTDJ2O6x4dAou/Fz4+vCa/FsRQqpNTGktBK7oI/hU5ooC4gHxTDHi O3XnCDoYE7bCITH9C6sNdHeDCWe4U3Wm1bcS5NOI25AVNIyfHsX0cNpJblCG1WDvKNy AYqqg9NjD3i9uuYhsc0ZjiTeymMjpY4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1l4t9avo4qwF; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5274FD4E24E; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290258688; bh=QvgC2aCvpFeyFBllSat43UKz8ID8QwCW8xCbIuMU ZVg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=jRP6yb Eg2yjLgjYbNKHwcZeE1l1Zmu3mg8+zGAb+jakLSyLWTqzl0Jt24rucidwe5M39l4wYc zKf/OiGVtAg4qSCYH9s6jAxpsmEEtJYKdiOztN7Blj/9X1tIipM82PpY8rEwVY/v1LQ 3rZyRz7Lz6mqgZwxZZXNq+f10Xk23wM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F66FD4F970 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1dVu7y6+bYGE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 919D4D4E24E for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:11:13 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsUFAO9X50xUXebr/2dsb2JhbACUYo4DcbpYhUsE Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 13:11:12 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJnDj-00009s-Ll for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:11:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:10:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 303 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OeWPicE4dQY2vC141asA:9 a=ixyB3FPkAfZOBsCFrhkA:7 a=8824fwSuIS2GEoQuA4OfLQ46AeMA:4 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 One thought, Dave. What version of the !ColSupp applet do you have installed? 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(brian.jordan9@81.132.104.60 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2010 13:39:02 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4ksiPhKswBD.ObC6KqQydMwTxNfQPzekNynQkioUBx_0S.V1snKSDe8- X-YMail-OSG: xJ7_k.UVM1m2QJeDV0bvKqWP8qCdJHJf1EvDxHTLzOhaNRG w7XKVII9nsSXEwPaKdqL.GwTAmIPFih4lSbkpm3sd286OKx3WtnFi0XiEprj uzosnpMQHEks2_s2m34EcEBrubh7WgMjuCYAbYPHMhvPsL9XCBMexRbmD6wz 5mHlmDO_fYM1RlDiHRkmEu_iQnklg5kQVC95fdaZklFLGRpGFf7EBhGUnbn2 paz4O6cJ_e.zHEXfImrTR3tEeRNGZQo0bupNMmGWRfAGzob0zbLE232CD.9H AOAkjkoIBcdGBqRJ4945Utjuz4Xyp5plRcwpRJP.KeJJA X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Jordan To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101119-1, 19/11/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 304 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.jordan9@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=0JnS22kIvKgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=KaGaUW8u5yiQP81E6F8A:9 a=eGgoqSxokjB7LeMy_NgA:7 a=eTYIZVbvrDtJOQSdBIh1G-H6JWcA:4 On 20 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > One thought, Dave. What version of the !ColSupp applet do you have > installed? Mine is 1.15. When Dave originally posted I was able to replicate his problem; that was with !ColSupp 1.14. I have just upgraded to 1.16 and the problem has disappeared. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Brian Jordan >From somewhere in North Hampshire. England. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3148BD50F7A for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:20:29 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsUFAN9n50zUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACUY44DcbsOhUsE Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 14:20:29 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJoIm-0008Nj-JH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:20:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:20:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 305 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jv-jtv9erdpL2MSFw_AA:9 a=BAzVilSeyrB3FPIqo9MA:7 a=V20ET55IWIU3GWjEx83C77HkSJMA:4 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 In article <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > On 20 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > > One thought, Dave. What version of the !ColSupp applet do you have > > installed? Mine is 1.15. > When Dave originally posted I was able to replicate his problem; > that was with !ColSupp 1.14. I have just upgraded to 1.16 and the > problem has disappeared. Yes, it took a while for the penny to drop - the Picture->process capability is provided by the ColSupp applet, and not by the main program. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 18:40:40 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJsDl-23iVbs-04-FiM.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:40:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJsDl-23iVbs-04-FiM; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJsDl-23iVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJsDh-0002He-Vc for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE3C3D5106C; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F27AAD50F2B for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKIV4kZ012155 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:06 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:27:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517940e6cbdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51790046a1dave@triffid.co.uk> <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 306 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FtTJA0a2J2VXbl1A9gsA:9 a=6LUPvBohKFeBF8gObyAA:7 a=o9W_NW3mRxJ9qooppL3Ro15VvuEA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=H6wMvwu68D4x21DD:21 a=r1arNvezSvmQQG6o:21 In article , Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > In message <51790dfd71dave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > [snip] > I suggest you re-install OvationPro and update to the latest versions > (RiscOS and windoze). I can in no way reproduce the effects you see. I was under the impression I was using the latest versions, and why would I want to reinstall the Win version anyway, there's no problem with that? Thanks for the thought though. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 18:40:40 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJsDv-2KcGPo-02-FiC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:40:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJsDv-2KcGPo-02-FiC; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJsDv-2KcGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJsDo-0002Ho-L9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 321C4D51098; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290277890; bh=lQC82L4/z67mCLIzbZN9UeLVojcsmaGtwJZQA14o 11o=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=c3QE7E UKAdZVVZgW2aj6ei3GQCRpRBC0QTZINQHNGC0+2PE6JDLPus82a3sVJcDYvP8EZcaDH IKDDE5GpT/dtzd7D41UbAMvr40IqwUCnR21OjC811+2vyvJ1l/VJrmBl+WsJCVfkl5d R14TmSdiOt2WWKY/+GD4aRn9mNd7yds= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CvDHPIQI1-Ks; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F040D50899; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290277888; bh=lQC82L4/z67mCLIzbZN9UeLVojcsmaGtwJZQA14o 11o=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=JnX+5r jLM/WJ9m4B3x6OLKQg4QMh5FJDmBXX/hCb+gwZzMmj/rZ+A5dw0Kbl2gf9e5PtRvDWh qQKLg0aRB+ztJzpzOttH/CWg6YE+/mop/V5oyLe8OL5elvNYCsfUblIZH4O9GF1MUOl 2q9StfEJeGHoXpoZkDUdVvexEhj1DEM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DBB38D5104A for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HhOB-hcGukuV for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D22DAD50899 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKIV4kX012155 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:05 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:25:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517940b6bddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 306 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=url8yllFiKytrA9391kA:9 a=_MZd6kMQO0XxM_7VFFIA:7 a=1ObrCIPhs4bHkp4f0NQgtf3QFmQA:4 In article <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > One thought, Dave. What version of the !ColSupp applet do you have > installed? Mine is 1.15. That appears to be the answer Chris. It was version 1.14 and replacing with 1.15 has now sorted the problem. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 18:40:40 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJsE3-3Zxknw-08-Fi4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:40:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJsE3-3Zxknw-08-Fi4; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJsE3-3Zxknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJsDy-0001tg-8i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41BE4D510CD; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290277891; bh=n5T6m/Yp8mBCscch7m9IfhYO9La+NcZ0/0WDF55q KYU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Kjrj56 O9v6YXEhaZdpFzpiP/7KuQmEEWVmacl5R5PEpvNvM7s7v9YmP9YUCsplFDJTDDvhgf6 qjhBaRLPznUFi7m294Jza2cGRySVL0/nnEyDM0k/YARdztpHzMOFDwZAn5q/hDWJ/dx 6yoGIoqEkt55fXhOBP02OsshDiaabbs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id infyayGmgvcJ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 23DA6D50F81; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290277888; bh=n5T6m/Yp8mBCscch7m9IfhYO9La+NcZ0/0WDF55q KYU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Xfc/Nk V3P/GCQweEBW1t4K7Ju/oD3YS6/8BOVKldj1EUtBSfLBIiP5W4hieQIP6+jhZPHa1ZA Tiog6f/ZgPRDJGNoml5R3ilDMbvz6LCIVE1ojN4dzwGw6jK7uyhXyhJSJ6BvzZ/vJ/i gVDN92bTj/apLo9VqZME4SDbknkJPbE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F3752D50FB2 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id upnC1fmqxqNW for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A2856D50F81 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKIV4kb012155 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:31:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 307 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=5cqtan2shr52RMw0zrYA:9 a=Vaq4Z6Q0ucWFvrIo7aMA:7 a=H0jw99cwZiCveUqE_BlxWFGQFNoA:4 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 In article <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, > Brian Jordan wrote: > > On 20 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > > > One thought, Dave. What version of the !ColSupp applet do you have > > > installed? Mine is 1.15. > > When Dave originally posted I was able to replicate his problem; > > that was with !ColSupp 1.14. I have just upgraded to 1.16 and the > > problem has disappeared. > Yes, it took a while for the penny to drop - the Picture->process > capability is provided by the ColSupp applet, and not by the main > program. Yes indeedy as I have discovered by sticking in 1.15 to replace the old 1.14 Whereabouts URL wise is 1.16 residing. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 18:40:40 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJsKI-3kKknw-08-Fbp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:40:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJsKI-3kKknw-08-Fbp; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:38:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJsKI-3kKknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:38:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJsKE-00059z-PU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:38:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 34D56D50EDE; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:38:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290278291; bh=Y0k7Wzw9rM8jWZNVLUliXPEB6md5TGgGgXOWITLs nmA=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Ye88eJ JqbjkCm6ysdwJSasoliwSlsv+3rgUH2d8xbTyn20vY0ajDbeOJdm+Z44dZG7xyIDlbt arb4BLrC7kk79gewFymcW4P/pCCzaH/C1dp1yHtUm8LX/17N0ZiZ+RO4jk2a+wNudUG USTlD0XTIfR5bNYQKg5JhU/bl7phQWc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kIWqnshpzjcx; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 264B4D50D86; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:37:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290278290; bh=Y0k7Wzw9rM8jWZNVLUliXPEB6md5TGgGgXOWITLs nmA=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=dFMu+B 3suUDzeeHdoD83/kFW2u2VPyyVF17qDJqBQt4eOs7Vzy/z3xQOj0DxHW6dBH1Oac6sk WbAOGZiAxkPK1oodvoUvJYiVzwnZTAh0p5qP2uMwTchgj1LjUMs9OkxpZV0Lp///smA Sa3wuVcOOlPO2OXiS8/gltxaIho68yA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:37:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F20D3D50EA5 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:37:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24b97YxsvS-M for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 87141D50D86 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKIbonf012271 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:37:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 308 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sI1oQcwesdZJnH9vGicA:9 a=fT65NLjMtbQt5pgT1tcA:7 a=vwrxX1x68EJ_hO1m3JtPFVN30yYA:4 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=r_JoY2I7LV7tZv2d:21 a=Euby80nG_Xg8-X3M:21 On 20 Nov, dave@triffid.co.uk wrote: > Whereabouts URL wise is 1.16 residing. > Thanks > Dave Sorry, no answer required, I know the URL, just a bad day, meds and brain wise. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 18:55:40 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJsYS-2cpVbs-04-FNf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:55:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJsYS-2cpVbs-04-FNf; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:52:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJsYS-2cpVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:52:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJsYM-0001GY-Sa for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:52:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22FEBD510A5; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:52:39 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:52:23 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoAgACan50zUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACUYoYHh3xxum2FSwQ Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 18:52:23 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJsXv-0003a4-25 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:52:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:52:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <5179431c95chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 309 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mhH4KjzManXhrBb-_fkA:9 a=kiE0Hn1tJqF3yxyOnkcA:7 a=aDh0mcEV4bAH5t2miCMznRdmBYMA:4 a=xV6t2JEwgpAA:10 a=bCVeZffJNqUA:10 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=k4TbydhVSGyAHOts:21 a=osnZmvlWu0kCal2N:21 In article <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Whereabouts URL wise is 1.16 residing. http://www.davidpilling.net/ovationpro/applet.html -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 19:25:41 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJspi-4dvknw-08-F6P.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:10:26 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44C18D50318 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:10:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JTaYvQwFPmm8 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E3F61D502FA for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKJAK5e012740 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:10:21 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 310 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mYvXuXTrsG7MptVt3bgA:9 a=44jXL0l2HEoX34tcL7MA:7 a=ktqRZ-ggjIomkJ_h1WVE0TEy6vYA:4 Couldn't fathom out why OvPro didn't have the ColSupp 1.15 applet installed, it was inside the RO !Applets manager. Then I remembered, the Applets manager doesn't work anymore, since the RO 6 versions. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 19:25:42 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJt3I-4MfVbs-01-Esp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:25:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJt3I-4MfVbs-01-Esp; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:24:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJt3I-4MfVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:24:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJt3H-00061l-0A for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:24:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDF65D50EC1; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:24:39 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:24:24 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQFAFqv50xUXebj/2dsb2JhbACUYo4DcbpFhUsE Received: from outmx01.plus.net ([84.93.230.227]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2010 19:24:24 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJt2t-0001RS-K3 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:24:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 311 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=KwcLmHI5SA4EgCJun7YA:9 a=TgTu_7gVtRJhdbEy27QA:7 a=1ahJVQeCrnAyMbbjmoEXkWfJMcgA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Cn5GmQmTJEzR90-0:21 a=inaGSk2Fh--Dhi80:21 In article <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Couldn't fathom out why OvPro didn't have the ColSupp 1.15 applet > installed, it was inside the RO !Applets manager. Then I > remembered, the Applets manager doesn't work anymore, since the RO > 6 versions. That's the !Applets application you are referring to is it? I always meant to have a look at that since it is not 32-bit safe and will not run on the Iyonix or later hardware. Unfortunately I don't have the source code, so it might be easier to reinvent the wheel and write it from scratch. What is the problem with RO6? -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 19:40:42 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJt9y-4YYVbs-01-Em9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:40:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJt9y-4YYVbs-01-Em9; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:31:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJt9y-4YYVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:31:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJt9w-0006Sw-0S for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:31:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B83AFD50FFF; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:31:37 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1BEF2D50C79 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:31:14 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgBAPSt50x5LDxB/2dsb2JhbAAHlFvJSYVLBA Received: from ppp121-44-60-65.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.60.65]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2010 06:01:10 +1030 Message-ID: <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 06:32:19 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PDF import References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 312 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=robeADZi0B7MsaNhP5QA:9 a=LGaAg-brKTd2e4f8oaUA:7 a=69EZRSwumaWhzGRRTEL0Os0F3zgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 On 20/11/2010 10:19 PM, Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 20 Nov, Peter Prewett wrote in message > <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net>: > >> I have tried to import a PDF on Windows 7 the original work was done on >> OpenOffice but it fails what steps are needed. > Import the PDF into what software? > Into Ovation Pro. -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 20:40:45 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJu4Y-1ruknw-06-DrZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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21 Nov 2010 06:59:45 +1030 Message-ID: <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:30:55 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Insert page References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 313 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JiSQd_lsvS7Qqg3Dn6EA:9 a=rWbbuZAD-Hs_8zqR54sA:7 a=xatRcKVDQW9RT9e4ZsjZULGFtD4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Windows 7, Ovation Pro 2.94 Insert new page does not seem to work the way I would expect. I have a one page document and inserting a page before or after nothing happens. I have a 2 page document and inserting a page:- After page 1 it puts it after page 2 Before page 1 it puts after page 2 Before page 2 it puts it after. -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 21:10:45 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJuTm-2CiGPo-01-DSL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:10:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJuTm-2CiGPo-01-DSL; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:56:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJuTm-2CiGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:56:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJuTj-0007OM-9c for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:56:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4BAA6D50E85; 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD7BFD50928 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.169.235]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAKKtiRM014282 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:55:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:54:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem Message-ID: <51794e5aacdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 314 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cLBiNcXuARcSpmJtfLYA:9 a=oaUltV5WLRjZ6t7NEpoA:7 a=lqgXz0toGRST7PljhoftSYABcjEA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=fwmv57K0Br7kA8Ao:21 a=eIWITTE3MivzLHAD:21 In article <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > Couldn't fathom out why OvPro didn't have the ColSupp 1.15 applet > > installed, it was inside the RO !Applets manager. Then I > > remembered, the Applets manager doesn't work anymore, since the RO > > 6 versions. > That's the !Applets application you are referring to is it? I always > meant to have a look at that since it is not 32-bit safe and will not > run on the Iyonix or later hardware. Unfortunately I don't have the > source code, so it might be easier to reinvent the wheel and write it > from scratch. > What is the problem with RO6? While the !Applet app still runs under 6.nn It didn't appear to update Applets into OvPro anymore. However, I've just had a play with it, specifically with the 1.16 ColSupp applet and it now seems to be working okay. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BCFB4D50BA2 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:57:03 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgBAArD50x5LDxB/2dsb2JhbAAHlFvJBIVLBA Received: from ppp121-44-60-65.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.60.65]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2010 07:27:01 +1030 Message-ID: <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:58:12 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 315 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=a7cxOihYQwuUufbsGygA:9 a=Spd5uCTaHhay_2AoFJgA:7 a=GCzcX3oLK4k6-jHnpcQ-1U9kulIA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Have carried out another insert page test. Have a 2 page document, for a book, the face page with a picture and a contents page which was Ctrl>Enter to start a new page. Also with margins set up for binding. If I insert a page after page 1, so that I can have a blank second page (or publishers information), and contents on the right hand side, it moves the picture down into the middle of contents page and some (contents) text onto a new 3rd page. Inserting a page before 2 nothing happens. -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Nov 20 21:55:46 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PJvC7-2ZKGPo-04-Ck0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:55:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PJvC7-2ZKGPo-04-Ck0; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:42:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PJvC7-2ZKGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:42:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PJvC2-0005JE-JG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:42:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C8B0D50F26; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:56 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290289316; bh=SzXXxuhJgfgolilktYncTpnBJluJMDwkUddAR+ni 5iw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=qw8qRjuzdXQf3JrxA9FO9sNDAfBWliFwMRk6EP08tuXUyoXBPt X6jPngiiuQv5qS9RomamUtWCP8sVASw+vs3pDLjSSlVb8ovSo9c14NjRLcgne7vDQAC ob7Vcro2/jdKZ9f/BVokuMh4s2kuutngmP1/DfBckyfsPPt+hWnwa4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OurxAhPzBv9l; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E322D4B586; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290289315; bh=SzXXxuhJgfgolilktYncTpnBJluJMDwkUddAR+ni 5iw=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=p798kUs7s7rTTuWKLORxPvICvQRQ8mztGwIIomuMdphBGUFcQ9 BzLJAH5lgbmLT5IqmnZT9bZ6v1+W1nCDzc79Q2Ifn04s0JvnfHpUPL4aKlDBAOLJ7Dn YkPU7d5MtJHbSQFLcTGi4Rve8nbdgFfJQfYJRnkLBxuVXagWyh/06E= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AFFFD4B64B for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UC0ZN1J2K-hL for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E97DFD4B586 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJvBC-0000jk-ek for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:41:06 +0000 Message-ID: <4LzZXeESAE6MFwcs@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:39:30 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 316 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LsyLp4XRFLdBFMhmlY8A:9 a=j31Uunp2jcVcgn_02P0A:7 a=ltyxVxChCV8NWy0mivQ2ZRwhxBsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=q-YCbDl4RlFeoTjY:21 a=pX3qJSIOE9sxWKG_:21 Hi, I seem to have missed all the excitement. 180 dpi sprites always looked a bit dodgy to me. Anyway as far as I can see everything has been resolved - let me know if not. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJvES-0001qE-nb for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:44:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:43:18 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PDF import References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zQPCWkpAlRivfbrQKNAA:9 a=usUgGNAOXiPOOseG6dUA:7 a=crFShd9RzRW_RHPjyYPg2LskwxAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Gdoc-Lo_vksA:10 a=rcOgP9spAGKA7xx9:21 a=CYiQm5mmTgshSP8j:21 Hi, In message <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >I have tried to import a PDF on Windows 7 the original work was done on >OpenOffice but it fails what steps are needed. There is a PDF import filter. It relies on you having GhostScript installed, it then converts your PDF into an EPS file. That implies you can only see a poor quality bitmap image in the document, and if you want to print you will need to be using the direct PostScript option and be printing to a PostScript printer. Although I have found PDF import useful, the last time I tried it, it seemed to get the bounding box wrong. The filter is at: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/DavidPilling/Filters/transpdf.html that page is linked from the OP CD filters page. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PJvJj-0003XS-ei for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:49:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:48:28 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 318 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=s3uH10EQuOoYhxG9mnAA:9 a=3-SOQALaFIstexpuj1kA:7 a=tiuWuuDlPFT29h3IgaqpS1Dpwt0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UVojyWSwFnWEg1j2:21 a=V3y9PWfL1vCglJUd:21 Hi, In message <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >Have carried out another insert page test. The thing with page insert, or delete for that matter, is the non-intuitive behaviour. Mostly this is caused by "auto page insert" and "auto page delete", which are usually set on from the document general preferences. For example you have a two page document, you insert a page after page 1. You might expect to have page 1, a blank page, and then the old page 2. That's not what you get, the contents of the old page 2 flow backwards into the newly inserted page. If there are no local frames or lines on the old page 2, everything will have flowed back to the new page, the blank old page 2 will then be automatically deleted. End result the document looks just like it did before you inserted the page. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA155D4FADF for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:19:44 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0BAO8b6Ex5LDxB/2dsb2JhbAAHlFrKCYVLBA Received: from ppp121-44-60-65.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.60.65]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2010 13:49:42 +1030 Message-ID: <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:20:52 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 319 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OSjMiV-dRyRPM8SyxtcA:9 a=TWV2ZlRkOqT5-K91xHkA:7 a=qFQGPuLlLQbBLwkXOoOSueZL57oA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 On 21/11/2010 8:48 AM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett > writes >> Have carried out another insert page test. > > The thing with page insert, or delete for that matter, is the > non-intuitive behaviour. Mostly this is caused by "auto page > insert" and "auto page delete", which are usually set on from > the document general preferences. > > For example you have a two page document, you insert a page > after page 1. You might expect to have page 1, a blank page, > and then the old page 2. That's not what you get, the contents > of the old page 2 flow backwards into the newly inserted page. > > If there are no local frames or lines on the old page 2, > everything will have flowed back to the new page, the blank old > page 2 will then be automatically deleted. > > End result the document looks just like it did before you > inserted the page. > > Thanks but why does the picture in page 1 move to the middle of page 2. I have unset the auto page etc. and it still does not work It appears that it is not possible to insert a page to work on that to me is a bug. As you say the work around is to put everything on page 2 into a frame and then it works but proberly gets even more complicate on a longer document, have not tried yet. There does not seem much point having insert new page if it does not work as intended:-)). Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 21 12:08:27 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PK4ZL-36GVbs-04-BtI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:08:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PK4ZL-36GVbs-04-BtI; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:42:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PK4ZL-36GVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:42:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PK4ZH-0006mQ-Kg for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:42:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EC264D50E75; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290325353; bh=fovxKVOooWZ6tMMGu26+Oc8l28a4QNVd33s850dD vAE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RgN8ipQ7N8ZFu+XI5OjUA5dFuOC5HzrESC3MBfHudNOYurZcah w3rqPmzqp2GmFspl1VHrJv8PZvGPlHfUHNObZspIEaiGAENv7zRaCLBW48ywJQ72rNK UuR9eVMz6Lgki3OC148RZlBNmOXJEN0bKmoOcmL3f2A6HMLjEhcDYM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tu8d+OBEqOVU; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6164D50AC3; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1290325351; bh=fovxKVOooWZ6tMMGu26+Oc8l28a4QNVd33s850dD vAE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=fWAYOFQhS6ZJooueqMEvFOjfrSdyc5DwZ3qtKIDrxLUDMWPAUW qAboyw0oC5vuv8K8uFuxuRjP254CTs/vhpy6J6oj8FuGufgkGFHPSTAv2WqXAJbqJ1j 8+N7v0AKdGJssYUryfCoQv/2Ks6tg+zY4g6T8qRRvvDiOnfoESUABE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:18 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4683D50AD7 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cJd4aHnkvBCg for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89112D50AC3 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.176.237]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAL7g6rx026632 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:42:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Graphic problem Message-ID: <5179899b49dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4LzZXeESAE6MFwcs@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4LzZXeESAE6MFwcs@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 320 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=MqyUD_7uiIZ9z_2_RdYA:9 a=ckY0MrZrvifbyU6kaAMA:7 a=tixBeJaliATSysCYhspOmlD8Oi4A:4 a=NBPTL-oFFTdXzeD_:21 a=m5JIaGlDF0K1UYvS:21 In article <4LzZXeESAE6MFwcs@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > I seem to have missed all the excitement. 180 dpi sprites always looked > a bit dodgy to me. > Anyway as far as I can see everything has been resolved - let me know if > not. Indeedy it has... Out of interest Mr P. why do 180 sprites look dodgy? The original graphic DAS was created in draw some years ago, then dropped onto the !Paint Icon bar icon, whereupon it became a bitmap image. I've just dug the original Draw image out of storage and done the same process, and it presents out of Paint as 180 x 180. 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Sun, 21 Nov 2010 05:53:16 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoAFAFKJ6ExUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACUY44EcbsqhUsE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2010 10:53:15 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PK7Xn-00023i-DU for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:53:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:52:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page Message-ID: <51799b0861chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 321 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cI0l3Jf1cdafCkQjGxsA:9 a=E7Ini-vMhkt0RqpGeI4A:7 a=AAoJBuiB57kIdCkO9iol9gTnvBAA:4 In article <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett wrote: > Thanks but why does the picture in page 1 move to the middle of > page 2. > I have unset the auto page etc. and it still does not work The behaviour depends on whether the master frame is autolinked to itself or not. If it is, then anything in the master frame will auoflow back into the new page 1, but things that are not part of the master frame contents, e.g. a local frame, will be moved forward a page in the document. Thus some contents can move relative to other contents. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 21 12:22:47 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PK8s4-0tV000-05-G75.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:22:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PK8s4-0tV000-05-G75; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:18:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PK8s4-0tV000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:18:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PK8s1-0003PL-78 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7772CD51105; 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Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86EB8D4F9CF for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PK8ri-0001gO-gZ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:17:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:16:49 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 322 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=G25sY7oD2VLYLNghxcIA:9 a=VVpluo-wnQlUJkKmMeQA:7 a=rg5rN73NESdNZFFoThqNiHTLN5QA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=YQbZpZpX-Ws1ThB6:21 a=jj7qot2YgoVAwOKy:21 In message <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >It appears that it is not possible to insert a page to work on that to >me is a bug. There was a long discussion here a few weeks back about this area. http://www.freelists.org/post/davidpilling/Insert-Page,31 One thing that came out of that discussion, is that if you want to insert a blank page, sticking the caret in the text at the appropriate point and inserting a new page character often does what is required i.e. provides a blank page to work on. You might possibly combine that with the insert page feature, if you want to push local frames back. Beyond that, send me your small example document and let me see what the problem is. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page Message-Id: <2455522.1220278-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 323 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mGABLbFCpVxm4P8H6WwA:9 a=mYi8a8NxGwWzw8JdHLkA:7 a=tyN-EB4cptZCpQXbSHzkCDRm5lMA:4 On Sun 21 Nov 2010 (14:20:52 +1100), pprewett@internode.on.net wrote: >> For example you have a two page document, you insert a page >> after page 1. You might expect to have page 1, a blank page, >> and then the old page 2. That's not what you get, the contents >> of the old page 2 flow backwards into the newly inserted page. >> I would have thought that this was the expected behaviour when auto-flow is switched on. If you wish to leave autoflow on just create a new frame on top of the page which has flowed backwards. This will force the page back to where it was and give you a frame to work on. This frame can be subdivided by superimposing new frames. Sometimes a better way is to create separate chapters for the text before and after the inserted page - but it is easy to be wise after the event! NB Auto page delete can be very confusing when you are adding pages - I normally switch it off. -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 21 14:37:51 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PKB2p-145Vbs-01-DwK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:37:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PKB2p-145Vbs-01-DwK; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:37:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PKB2p-145Vbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:37:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PKB2k-0007eo-8R for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:37:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A387D522AB; 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Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5470D52285 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.192.102]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oALEaw05032683 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:37:02 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:35:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page Message-ID: <5179af7d0bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 324 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=DbSP0IMWYU4SkIMJe94A:9 a=ELjNMJ61to91qYyihvYA:7 a=V0_CUBiqEcta3q0sv_G3_qsCKl0A:4 a=H0kCtppgRawoUO2P:21 a=6ZqcMJXub6FgQgjF:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett > writes > >It appears that it is not possible to insert a page to work on that to > >me is a bug. > There was a long discussion here a few weeks back about this area. > http://www.freelists.org/post/davidpilling/Insert-Page,31 > One thing that came out of that discussion, is that if you want to > insert a blank page, sticking the caret in the text at the appropriate > point and inserting a new page character often does what is required > i.e. provides a blank page to work on. > You might possibly combine that with the insert page feature, if you > want to push local frames back. > Beyond that, send me your small example document and let me see what the > problem is. Oh yes, I remember that discussion, my brain still hurts when I think about that subject. 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Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:59:46 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAN7e6ExUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACUVY4Ecbt0hUsE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2010 16:59:45 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PKDGT-00042U-DO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:59:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:59:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page Message-ID: <5179bca43echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5179af7d0bdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> <5179af7d0bdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 325 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Wh3CnkHRvQijdLpY_3QA:9 a=ztYLCxZItYnx3ZSNTFsA:7 a=pU3CIWp2Xg7W64E9ArQSHr2H-n8A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=c-mCVvTpC7MdpTmM:21 a=1T-9GHJ3asSwJdfi:21 In article <5179af7d0bdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Oh yes, I remember that discussion, my brain still hurts when I > think about that subject. I have just looked through that thread again which I saved here with a view to putting a 'tutorial' on this topic on my Ovation Pro Resources web pages. Your pain illuminates the exchanges 8o) I guess I ought to get on with the tutorial as this topic keeps coming back. Some images might help! -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Nov 21 18:37:58 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PKEmR-17R000-04-ACi.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:37:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PKEmR-17R000-04-ACi; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:36:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PKEmR-17R000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:36:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PKEmQ-0001qH-43 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:36:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A81CD52089; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:36:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PKEm8-0005Gy-ly for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:36:33 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:35:20 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Graphic problem References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <517923dd54chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <517926718fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <51792a35a4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51794114e7dave@triffid.co.uk> <517941ce3bdave@triffid.co.uk> <517944c523dave@triffid.co.uk> <517946013echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4LzZXeESAE6MFwcs@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5179899b49dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5179899b49dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 326 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jdXHuVn9oXEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LK0sb9CvY3O3oAOL8wYA:9 a=Ynw7NbzKqgOoP3K8rEUA:7 a=PIWXOj7IU8M2dOw9-LXsptIdVyIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=LdqRhUQ2JE653l4v:21 a=4UCKJ0IhK0XGfSRY:21 In message <5179899b49dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >Out of interest Mr P. why do 180 sprites look dodgy? It was something like at the time I was writing the code 180 dpi sprites were not properly supported on all the hardware/versions of RISC OS I was familiar with. Probably time has moved on and they now work (and by the sound of it, my code still didn't). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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> It was something like at the time I was writing the code 180 dpi sprites > were not properly supported on all the hardware/versions of RISC OS I > was familiar with. > Probably time has moved on and they now work (and by the sound of it, my > code still didn't). But it does now David... After installing ColSupp 1.15 and now 1.16 it works correctly on the 180 x 180 original sprite. It also now works correctly on the 45 x 45 sprite. 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Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4ECBFD52674 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:46:12 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuUBAL7e6kx5LLi//2dsb2JhbAAHlFzLIIVLBA Received: from ppp121-44-184-191.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.184.191]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Nov 2010 16:04:10 +1030 Message-ID: <4CEB529B.9010508@internode.on.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:35:23 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] paste chapter References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 328 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=64nvbWQDbvOqH7GHW0MA:9 a=g-2f6VuJc_m5KMffQHkA:7 a=QGnz8K6khTQkpGZQ2o37P3HeodEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Because Ovation Pro for windows 7 does not insert pages the way I thought it should I tried a different way. Split the document into chapters that is delete 40 odd pages and keep the first few save as chapter1. Repeat with another few pages so now have 3 chapters so now tried to copy and paste. Closed OP and started again and looked at all the chapters and everyone as expected 2 pages each. Closed and reloaded OP The first copy and paste worked now have 2 chapters saved, the first few pages are not numbered so did not need to modify chapters. Now tried to paste the third (2 pages) and OK saved now have a 6 page document. Saved and closed OP, reopened and there are the 6 pages as expected Now the page numbers in the last chapter need revising starting from right instead of left as soon as I did that it added all the other 40 odd pages that I had deleted. Have tried different way of adding to new document and saving the chapter and it does the same. So some where in the system it is saving the deleted pages these are not seen until I ask to change from right to left or change start number in modify chapter then they get inserted. Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Nov 23 20:56:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PKzi0-2U3GPo-02-EQF.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:56:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PKzi0-2U3GPo-02-EQF; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:43:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PKzi0-2U3GPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:43:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PKzhv-0002zv-8Y for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:43:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65813D52F80; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:43:17 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26303D52E96 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:42:51 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4BAPa060x5LPhb/2dsb2JhbAAHlFzNeIVLBA Received: from ppp121-44-248-91.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.248.91]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 24 Nov 2010 07:12:48 +1030 Message-ID: <4CEC2792.3040006@internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:44:02 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: paste chapter References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> <4CEB529B.9010508@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CEB529B.9010508@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 329 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ashryADMLfMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uKMvt1UZOip-pAKRvkMA:9 a=h458DIRy6bJzBl1_X2gA:7 a=3SDsCuqRDbARcecrOlllf2lu1O0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 I am still not understanding the paste chapter facility - I have started again. I have split my 46 page document into chapters by deleting pages and saving. The chapters were saved with undo buffer set off and each chapter when shown individually in OP has the correct number of pages. I am now reassembling my book and when I get to chapter 3 everything is correct. Then modifying the 3rd chapter (page numbers and start left) it inserts the deleted pages (40 odd text only) - there is nothing in the clipboard. Why should modifying a chapter insert pages? And where are these pages stored to be inserted? When testing I reload OP every time and close without saving. Now I find with one chapter only loaded I can paste a chapter, though not having been copied (other than in previous testing) and there is nothing in the clipboard to paste. I have checked that there is nothing in the Windows 7 clipboard. Yet I can still paste a chapter. Perhaps I should do a clean install of OP. 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Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PL0VZ-0004eD-lc for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:34:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:33:34 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: paste chapter References: <5178b5c372dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178b7570bchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178b93c51brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> <5178c16420chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178c25095dave@triffid.co.uk> <5178d406c5chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5178d800cdchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4CE70FE6.20004@internode.on.net> <4CE82243.3070505@internode.on.net> <4CE82FFF.1060508@internode.on.net> <4CE83664.3070906@internode.on.net> <4CE89014.9030500@internode.on.net> <4CEB529B.9010508@internode.on.net> <4CEC2792.3040006@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CEC2792.3040006@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 330 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ashryADMLfMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cYjr0dv2hj4O7TfP2xQA:9 a=WpyduLKGV23jAH7nLL8A:7 a=dIcZoOQLZZFHqt80yt3nXY0P5VUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Muwsr7nwjhqTo8EO:21 a=rUUZCG6o6jh28lxA:21 Hi, In message <4CEC2792.3040006@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >Perhaps I should do a clean install of OP. I think not. The above saga is a repetition of the problems with insert/delete page. Usually a document has an "auto linked chain of master frames" with "automatic page insertion and deletion". Sounds complicated. It means that the document behaves as you expect, you type and when you come to the end of a page, magically another page appears and you carry on typing. Dump 40 pages of text into a frame, and magically 40 pages appear. What I think you've done is turn off automatic page insertion. You can then delete all the pages using the "delete page" function, and you get your two pages. The problem is that they still contain 40 pages worth of text. As soon as that text hits a document with automatic page insertion turned on it will produce 40 pages of text. The solution, is to forget the "insert page" and "delete page" functions. If you want a document with just two pages worth of text, mark the text before the desired text, delete it, then mark the text after the desired text and delete that. As to the preferences for "auto page insert" and "auto page delete", maybe better if they're left with their default settings of "on". I understand what you want - delete page to delete both the page/frames and the text they contain, insert page to insert both pages/frames and also new page codes in the text. Good idea, but alas 20 years ago we didn't think of it. The functions OP provides will let you achieve what you want, but you have to do it by hand - in two parts pages/frames and text contents. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.laposte.net (out2.laposte.net [193.251.214.119]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2EED9D52EF3 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from meplus.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf8213.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D428670000A0 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:06:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from wwinf8201 (unknown [10.98.49.222]) by mwinf8213.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B8FB17000093 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:06:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20101129060612757.B8FB17000093@mwinf8213.laposte.net From: Trevor Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Message-ID: <13175511.443067.1291010772730.JavaMail.www@wwinf8201> In-Reply-To: <20101119060547.2B505D51078@turing.freelists.org> References: <20101119060547.2B505D51078@turing.freelists.org> Subject: [softwarelist] Self extracting SparkPlug 2.29 Bad Header (ARMv7, Beagle board etc.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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I get: "Bad Header in:archive" "Bark has abended because: Can't unpack 0" Thanks very much. --=20 Trevor JOHNSON trevor.johnson@laposte.net Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, =C3= =A7a vous tente ? 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Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.laposte.net (out6.laposte.net [193.251.214.123]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0346D52D9D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from meplus.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf8411.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 94D69E00008E for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:36:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from wwinf8402 (unknown [10.98.51.221]) by mwinf8411.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 830B7E000091 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:36:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20101129133623536.830B7E000091@mwinf8411.laposte.net From: Trevor Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Message-ID: <3681765.3034.1291037783509.JavaMail.www@wwinf8402> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Self extracting SparkPlug 2.29 Bad Header (ARMv7, Beagle board etc.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [195.188.207.15] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:36:23 +0100 (CET) X-me-spamlevel: not-spam X-me-spamrating: 39.799999 X-me-spamcause: OK, (-5)(0000)gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfedtkedrtdehucetggdotefuucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuoehnohhnvgeqnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecujhgvucdlqdehmd X-archive-position: 332 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: trevor.johnson@laposte.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WGHbuLpbhKkA:10 a=4oMZjnUbuVkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=9k_OVNCwRPAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=AVbMHacnAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gxKwBDAqPSpZhn7j17EA:9 a=4ikYbka7GOkWK_DvC4EA:7 a=McKhHJwpzR5H-z4SYH6CrY2viK8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yvZ1BPFDISIA:10 Now sorted, very promptly. Thanks :-) Thread can be ignored.=20 --=20 Trevor JOHNSON trevor.johnson@laposte.net=20 Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, =C3= =A7a vous tente ? 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These are 26/32 bit versions i.e. they'll work on 32 bits, but you don't have to have the later C library - for some people upgrading the C library was an issue and for that reason 2.26 has remained on the web site. They should also allow zip files to be unpacked on ARMv7, Beagle, OMAP etc. There's also a self extract version of SparkPlug 2.29. I put all this up yesterday and made a hash of it, a couple of bad links and my ftp software - WinSCP defaulted to text mode for the *.bas self extract version and chopped a few bytes off its tail. You can access the new versions from: http://www.davidpilling.com/free.html and: http://www.davidpilling.com/riscos.html Feel free to redistribute SparkPlug. However I imagine most people have SparkFS. I see there's another link on the SparkFS page I have to update to the new version of Spark... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Where can I find information on how to to do it?? There is an applet but not for Windows?? Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 16:57:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNpzM-0omknw-07-8dD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:57:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNpzM-0omknw-07-8dD; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:57:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNpzM-0omknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:57:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNpzI-000513-Hx for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:57:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5160ED55115; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:58 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291222618; bh=5+iAWl+xFR4mQKCwzfCDhydL6zKtfp23lPGY4yGA G7g=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=c1wcszZ8eEKJnkwKhNDtzGUlb6dA3 ZkdPCB70Zy6XzPUalbrF2qFwfQ61fkPG+ReykncVlsQuNzE/EclZIyIih8mT6isC0GH /fE7HfGsMiiA63fS7wS5kOLl3Dqa87CmtU34fB999AI5rSiD9QUwsewzCWpfktzZ4EF Hrgnlr1E= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QI4nuxJvEHCx; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6609ED547B5; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291222617; bh=5+iAWl+xFR4mQKCwzfCDhydL6zKtfp23lPGY4yGA G7g=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Mne9xvy9UQ7cFdJmJoCe/P4S+hnGM Ob/pgOB0od5FbQ7wOaD1hWLze5f0h1VZJBrQNdtzNSVKLo0SmkFZjBXT+URUt78cvRe XTn4kUNockkhZCywqMdrfv4R/psjKk38w7o6SvNJF8o1V6vrSpcUbxCp3FbKhvT7b5J 9M13/8/Q= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 366C7D54F4D for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pECV3Md1KvBs for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D5D6D547B5 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:56:43 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQGAGcN9kzUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACVBo4QccQ6hUcE Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2010 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PNpyz-0004a7-HG for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:56:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:56:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Insert page hints Message-ID: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 335 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pPLF0imLtTAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TGqZSTDNN2mVxWi-27oA:9 a=17QwRdQ76NjXbbhSR2oA:7 a=qZCYEM42l2eCsbeQs7oZUHzo1Q4A:4 a=F3kRzqyUeSUA:10 Having spent most of the last five days shovelling snow to try to keep some sort of access to the end of our quiet cul-de-sac here in Balerno (W Edinburgh), I thought I would have a break, so have made a first draft of some hints to help with the 'How do I insert a new page' problem which regularly gets an airing on this group. The page can be found at http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/ovationpro/h_inspg.html (it is not yet linked from the main pages). I should be grateful to receive any corrections, additions, or any other suggestions (probably by private email unless some general discussion on the list might be useful). Many thanks. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 17:12:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNq5f-2q6Vbs-05-8Wu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:12:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNq5f-2q6Vbs-05-8Wu; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:03:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNq5f-2q6Vbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:03:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNq5b-0005o1-IK for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:03:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32AC3D54431; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291223010; bh=I332xprg7AgkutOzJ6Cvk+NuhHyug90VUpHLXc3P OkI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=JYzbbUsT+I9OXe6JjE0nZsiDX5y0M/unlRQl1DmlzoljCh6t2r 7/ZZi0tzugOPEIZXqQyvWZxp84vYxEv1mdvKOS26YYKu09ZGW+2PQuhnCtsHJ4yj59A 4sbHJxei8XJTvJkkBJJl+nsIGVGkeFDzhGALplFuDvexAHuaiKMFRE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7SlYeMNQRfV5; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A912D543AB; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291223009; bh=I332xprg7AgkutOzJ6Cvk+NuhHyug90VUpHLXc3P OkI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=JLYhFdU8aql1Gh5hvNJiKQR7RDxFJNjZDeuH4USg+i0hqN3b+U Q9+C7DV39cBAHrmB/a+TMSjxfBmB8vnbtVgM3LT1LlvEmLx8vqpC3VCY2Fl2jtE+dgA H5AS5c86ZX1bHJR0psTXFoBl4ZIkAW0SE3v+puZQipQBB88/ylCK6I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:03:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0FDE2D543E8 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nNRV1JFxty6N for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78A70D543AB for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PNq5J-0002Bt-pL for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:03:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:01:37 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Contents References: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 336 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Z4hqyIogCBWkLrv7qs8A:9 a=k-zyJ8EG-kPz7hBhLZ8A:7 a=D-nsIf6-E5v7IaOzZQmxINuRu74A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=eK_5aIp9Dy4A:10 a=djq8KxxFo-3VtKk0:21 a=m5leESpdTmsQAOfi:21 Hi, In message <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >I need help on creating a Contents page in Ovation Pro for Windows 7. >Where can I find information on how to to do it?? >There is an applet but not for Windows?? There *is* an applet for Windows see: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/Noble/Applets/Contents.oap there is a list of all the Windows applets at: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/applets.html -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-195-240.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.195.240]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oB1HF89A005823 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:15:08 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page hints To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:05:25 GMT Message-ID: <838be37e51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 337 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=an4JGLRgiXQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=bGWshhpHn6hLmPP76LkA:9 a=JJFRfRQ_Qat7SBMqCCcA:7 a=fBQuoLj4jGw-zmjcvnDRQBvYyIkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=F3kRzqyUeSUA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=JnZhLWFhmUcwRN-q:21 a=ZLVOcdtEy5HXv7U1:21 On 1 Dec 2010 Chris Johnson wrote: > Having spent most of the last five days shovelling snow to try to > keep some sort of access to the end of our quiet cul-de-sac here in > Balerno (W Edinburgh), I thought I would have a break, so have made a > first draft of some hints to help with the 'How do I insert a new > page' problem which regularly gets an airing on this group. > The page can be found at > http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/ovationpro/h_inspg.html > (it is not yet linked from the main pages). > I should be grateful to receive any corrections, additions, or any > other suggestions (probably by private email unless some general > discussion on the list might be useful). Looks excellent, and duly saved (NetSurf full save) in my OPro directory. Many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DDA4D54E39 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:45:44 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQGAKYY9kxUXebj/2dsb2JhbACVCI4RccQdhUcE Received: from outmx01.plus.net ([84.93.230.227]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2010 17:45:43 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PNqkR-0006SE-CX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:45:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:45:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page hints Message-ID: <517ee72d01chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <838be37e51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <838be37e51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 338 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=an4JGLRgiXQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ezz16T5QJAjQq_A8f7gA:9 a=9hU6tGQo1Bx2j0oXPRwA:7 a=rHxGp37gc6pDtiDSwiVLrH5gajYA:4 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=zqubyeuOmhw5fJld:21 a=kIokaIOThFHpgmyy:21 In article <838be37e51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young wrote: > Looks excellent, and duly saved (NetSurf full save) in my OPro > directory. Many thanks. That will not be the final version - just the first attempt 8o) -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 18:12:36 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNqwU-1d2Vbs-07-GCb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:12:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNqwU-1d2Vbs-07-GCb; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:58:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNqwU-1d2Vbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:58:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNqwR-0007aq-SI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:58:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5589D54F2C; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:58:06 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291226286; bh=RQpqf085z3hpcnHREfKrbG4e17rvQdU/TUM4O4rF Ozk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=WuWyXW3tNpdfUiFlYL8TwECEC9AsDNCvEw162cxGBlM+E0l8ci GycMv5fddey4waR15ra8sHcw6lpmFFV08FqI7LwBNE4rD2LBjtVercPMXNlJf9VLPso w6pCwJhI7P3yGBqWGNdJyFude5vs9CgXdmnPa58fGO1kELcMG5SyWU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96TQjL2k+fVY; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 071B7D54E52; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291226285; bh=RQpqf085z3hpcnHREfKrbG4e17rvQdU/TUM4O4rF Ozk=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RUKegWLO76IehRYdM5aA62W9KSphSEHvMvQqQB5KSISPuVvI+H U/u4UWaQK9eMNadJTeqhV7HDTUjvm/i/Pu4Li/7buX+UasKKEfcBMyzSsM/BP30djpB zif8NJRTLzwxqhTmd0HdOMlCzfGEp7I7AA3tbdIxVUg+Jox5uxQFQ8= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D71B7D54E75 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i2eIX6ujc7VN for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5F21AD54E52 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PNqwB-0004f8-dY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:57:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:56:32 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert page hints References: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 339 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=an4JGLRgiXQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7r1ZNFMVizb6Te4vYB4A:9 a=KauD5nleVp4CqW4M_toA:7 a=_NWzYKNQwdTGuQTJkFrlklRvY1cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=F3kRzqyUeSUA:10 a=pSBCvCybk5L4TNX1:21 a=WhSbDKZoet6SQdR6:21 Hi, In message <517ee2bbb1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes > http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/ovationpro/h_inspg.html That is a very nicely designed web page. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. 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Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80741D553CF for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:54:40 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABAAJE9kx5LOfI/2dsb2JhbAAHlQjSaIVHBA Received: from ppp121-44-231-200.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.231.200]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2010 07:24:33 +1030 Message-ID: <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:56:00 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Contents References: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 340 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=SecIbC2Ri7nLBz7oHRoA:9 a=Rk22dwM0VfrLAWbHFwUA:7 a=s5IMee9KecYHtloMF1Z-gIhXPCwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=eK_5aIp9Dy4A:10 On 2/12/2010 4:01 AM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett > writes >> I need help on creating a Contents page in Ovation Pro for >> Windows 7. >> Where can I find information on how to to do it?? >> There is an applet but not for Windows?? > > There *is* an applet for Windows see: > > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/Noble/Applets/Contents.oap > > there is a list of all the Windows applets at: > > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/applets.html > > Thanks. Tried it and it crashes OP - so must be using my wrong finger. Can anyone give me a clue on how to use it? Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 21:42:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNuEv-2LXVbs-05-CuA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:42:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNuEv-2LXVbs-05-CuA; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:29:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNuEv-2LXVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:29:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNuEn-00054R-Cg for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:29:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B148D5532F; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:18:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291238307; bh=85Z1FtwCuH6tCTMKoTqmgA6wPM5SfkJux5e7lyXw zko=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Ebtp8RZ0U15/x9Pbuj8d5SJNyyomijdZYByHUKsk3HOCThRxDc WfIkABnQ3Een5KdL7P2FjLHG/U4TYZG0TUWAFVU/YxAYflafM6OMF49Aqj9fnS2tW1M 2L88N+ldOsFvfjULOTd+5ng2WASQ6xJuazDaFpZquAABvDViVEZ/lM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LtOfzg0tf8ov; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5113ED552A0; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291238306; bh=85Z1FtwCuH6tCTMKoTqmgA6wPM5SfkJux5e7lyXw zko=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=AIpPz/pku4lMl5iEG6XY1yCSKDJZrqh/hA8lqTfXpdxrgdnHDh Oy0Zm0WsLwmvGBKvviUMn55knf/KANFVIrHw54RiNJu1tRqRVmUHEYrDUpKKk29UldY pRUWZI3D1arSTPH1DBe6oVPZyu2o3iGh8pXO3a6sJpQGOYQzLNdmwI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BEBFBD5532F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38aI+Y6bg2IH for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99AA1D552DA for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PNtve-00063l-Zq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:07:51 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Contents References: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 341 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0GsgKpGsLhMDIRhAzf8A:9 a=j5x-hAELSVSmgPP1xagA:7 a=BAxFgWKhIfPS1YNVI_Est11aIyMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XYrE5qPJBwXY4qYU:21 a=yuvZtAhuZed_zz1p:21 Hi, In message <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >Tried it and it crashes OP - so must be using my wrong finger. Crashes - when? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 21:57:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNuVN-1nFknw-07-Cdi.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:57:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNuVN-1nFknw-07-Cdi; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:46:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNuVN-1nFknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:46:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNuVG-0005dA-It for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:46:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7AADD55312; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291239952; bh=DjPOCtZuWNHOEM8Akq+SbG1FLovRMaugXo67na+h wJA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=jGJfLoaetconiOcwc58ANbPMFIyEXm9SIwdHYqdh bZ7eSIoAnDfHrtyN0FkUA1Y2WLOeQ+WRmjuHB2MQHNTdOiF+SM/krx2JlrWq5tDZWdL u7jzKczJ+tpSRqG7Q7jvOCfiCGkfvk/V1Fl1syqRui5kxyrmVmgajNYSlclGDz9g= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OTh0lmjLVJUk; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B815D55295; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:39 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291239951; bh=DjPOCtZuWNHOEM8Akq+SbG1FLovRMaugXo67na+h wJA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To: List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner: List-post:List-archive; b=Y7bfPZFAIo2XkharVb+e7czc9BZwFK56aEPkKIkR eM7GMw1GeIlhrJv4htbQ3fMzFWluCODXeHELP4GmI9Wu7F9k1rYQ5K0Qxl77hosyyH3 9nYaJXQeyQH01vu6N695iI0JG8SwV80MSLH2ZhoIbSJ5G7JI0C+3+JxRbHi7HOzY= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D731BD552E3 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sN59rY0-s7F2 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57FF8D55295 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:45:30 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABAI9O9kx5LOfI/2dsb2JhbAAHlQnSYIVHBA Received: from ppp121-44-231-200.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.1]) ([121.44.231.200]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2010 08:15:23 +1030 Message-ID: <4CF6C24A.40602@internode.on.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 08:46:50 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Contents References: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 342 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PedZqjRacjOm2AySGUAA:9 a=wjpVs-uXrU77ln9vc0AA:7 a=jefbKb1KGfXOthMP3nt10LNV8TIA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 On 2/12/2010 8:07 AM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett > writes >> Tried it and it crashes OP - so must be using my wrong finger. > > Crashes - when? > > I set up the contents applet and it runs then reports Ovation Pro stopped working. I have not set contents up correctly - not knowing how is a problem, is their a help file somewhere? Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Dec 1 22:27:35 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PNv3t-0T8knw-02-C5C.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:27:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PNv3t-0T8knw-02-C5C; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:22:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PNv3t-0T8knw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:22:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PNv3p-0004OQ-MG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:22:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48123D55348; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291242119; bh=oL/pqksiGjbTa+bEiw0QgmjxATyiaZkioObHs0V2 61k=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=lOdipvkJkF2qJVB8LW0g0ynzAhxyAkHzlJU/HUH+4y8c4BZ5cl GpoFqMa3KIx2bkhlS4saLcuqXUMaI0vUQwk3gMikJYW5Ig49BSLjUSfl01Ub0D1utVR W43ie7OOtWzdMM+UaI7jIDudBzkK37NsckxLrofNCRQVwAzjVdNAKo= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1fRb7onaD1r; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8D59D5326C; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291242118; bh=oL/pqksiGjbTa+bEiw0QgmjxATyiaZkioObHs0V2 61k=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Kh8JMpvMat7oiDC5JDX+WGEM99folSKN12CsRdSQxoDhj16Zed cUJKdsyO/vETU7t0KZ5SEK092lx/7VHU6NmM1w4QX8unk2ev/cV1rKaivTej3rswsWj OqHLhH1jnsZrZ3+mahAIwCLZmD6+HZqmbYyO5XHQbFOirpemurKr6c= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 951C2D552EE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oVvxAJCeMxQW for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C62CDD5326C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PNv3V-0005fL-kQ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:21:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:20:25 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Contents References: <4CF5AFE5.90306@internode.on.net> <4CF6B660.8010504@internode.on.net> <4CF6C24A.40602@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <4CF6C24A.40602@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 343 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Npn9PEg5AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=r-C8-42imy2hw8CldvMA:9 a=8PA2kwQaM87ZwdaHXpsA:7 a=xl6TXefcboSI43fKZHzP3zTYgWIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=FRx9ADjWqT4bOT2O:21 a=zbuzwR42VylcwLUy:21 Hi, In message <4CF6C24A.40602@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >I set up the contents applet and it runs then reports Ovation Pro >stopped working. Hmm. >I have not set contents up correctly - not knowing how is a problem, is >their a help file somewhere? On Windows, if you select an applet in the applet manager, you can then click on the "help topics" button to read the documentation. (On RISC OS you probably have to click Menu over the !applet which will give you a help option that loads the !Help file inside the applet). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 6 12:08:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PPZlp-0UB000-02-BfS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:08:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PPZlp-0UB000-02-BfS; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:02:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PPZlp-0UB000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:02:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PPZln-0002IX-KO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:02:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A58FD55C49; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:02:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291636933; bh=trgeQ0zdSNuUhA8vbaPh2iph5cFM9rPTpExx10Ff QNA=; h=Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Ba/GwVDbBFVGqCAYAv5KHsV8VITak1gzjVND95P/KlNLMxsZub lW/gwhD2kzvsRWQF+FIGTj9f1SATTRSsDxDXlOEhx7uQXZumlWGQlSmO6igeFxk92Xl Hoh8p0klZRjBWIqlLmRm3bRK9isHvj4NmvuwLglNnunOnZ7JZrHHAk= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PGKNfBhpPqzC; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DBD3ED55BFE; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:01:56 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291636929; bh=trgeQ0zdSNuUhA8vbaPh2iph5cFM9rPTpExx10Ff QNA=; h=Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=GveMQm+v9/2xMGEa6xgpg65Fx+6x/w3UNrIWz+lJXzkCmEcPKb gNB4sHPpJTsGhbtYZIfCWq0zJymlsTJgJd7gAX4OTa/m4gcIREeFaKd9ONq/OsQnqOq Z6x/vZnZvs7uXmq+5oEjJBwQZc9jw/mRCXg+QjzelH31sFBd/Yhg/k= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:01:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A06FFD55C2D for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:01:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00kvU9RH5VTU for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FBFBD55BFE for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from edencroft2.demon.co.uk ([83.104.180.237] helo=MacBook-Pro-2.lan) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PPZlS-0004Ku-hw for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:01:54 +0000 Message-Id: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> From: Jeremy Roberts To: davidpilling@freelists.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: [softwarelist] Breaking up an existing chapter into two? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:01:54 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-archive-position: 344 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: fjr@edencroft2.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CUZFpbAo9VAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=HENOcfZRMdQa8NxKXcEA:9 a=gReMvRjBAwKxWs3rNRIA:7 a=Z2vjR3JpYRdd_lYZQKahsPhcQs4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 I do an A5 (b&w) bulletin in OPro. Recent issues have gone to be printed as PDFs and been /combined there/ by the printers with a colour centrefold PDF done by someone else. I'd like (purely for archival purposes) to be able to ADD (lower res) versions of the pictures on this centrefold INTO four 'new' A5 pages in the OPro document at the appropriate place between the existing pages. 1) I could just add four pages, BUT obviously the pagination is then wrong thereafter by 4 compared with the original doc - and this matters because of cross-references in the text, the contents page being then 'wrong', etc. 2) I could overlay the existing page numbers with frames giving the 'right' page-numbers. Fiddly! 3) Can I ALTER the EXISTING second half of the document (i.e. the part AFTER where the centrefold pages would go in) into a NEW chapter, which I could then re-paginate? Can't see a simple way of doing that... besides chopping the second half out, creating a new chapter and importing the chopped part into that...?? Hmm. 4) Is there another workaround I've overlooked?? Have I made the case clearly enough above? Thanks for help. Jeremy R. Jeremy Roberts To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 6 12:23:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PPa1b-1jNVbs-05-BPg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:23:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PPa1b-1jNVbs-05-BPg; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:18:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PPa1b-1jNVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:18:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PPa1X-0004ax-Rv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:18:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2C53D55FBE; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291637908; bh=GA0xbI3eahp/p5AIljHxpSu59t1OUniAtX9AssCa hbQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=vKUAAlNhRqCUOHNPfQ0c5AVYGLQagXhGKnDVvIJya4T50STc9r sU1CWiYsmEjZNH2rh5ghXazyugSZH7ksmoqtkjxgeDQ2B7Fd+izYxeP4cb6Rq0TdiGt urYL3P358sEYK+OHlqWftbVjMU6DVXnQtQOMf99zCz50rNEYuKPtiU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIyv43nGTSkh; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EEBCBD55E1B; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291637907; bh=GA0xbI3eahp/p5AIljHxpSu59t1OUniAtX9AssCa hbQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=MyZd/KBkFT27SDxFRgRtGeAS5X4Dbm0IPf9KxLWEXcMU/DFHtv 2mrv/qA4YIbHVcugtf7vBFfcibCkHMdWyBNaMLz8taAB7EyJgcOIXg/9WpCKkTKb067 ALNd0rZET4rxgHZL/x9wXZzlJxzBbkk9MaypImjiP5+iQQnubhjHX4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:18:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5F04D55EC6 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Aiy-VoCJ66dy for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30787D55E1B for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PPa1E-0000ta-mr for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:18:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:16:54 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Breaking up an existing chapter into two? References: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 345 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_BHycZyZO7AA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pk5fyx1kAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UwN_fy-JeonR63rumSsA:9 a=W8U6oWSZKBNpUwhJy2YA:7 a=k-uBGc-Gv8zbHqAIAykAce4eyhUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qWoCFQrAFm6uFYtB:21 a=ZwHkg3CNNi1zHwUb:21 Hi, In message <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy Roberts writes >3) Can I ALTER the EXISTING second half of the document (i.e. the part >AFTER where the centrefold pages would go in) into a NEW chapter, >which I could then re-paginate? > >Can't see a simple way of doing that... besides chopping the second >half out, creating a new chapter and importing the chopped part into >that...?? Hmm. I think this is the way. You have to master splitting a chapter into two parts. You can do that by either copying everything after the middle or by deleting everything before the middle (and in a copy everything after the middle). I'd set off with the document, use the copy and paste chapter facility to make two chapters with the same contents. Then delete the relevant material from both. Insert a new chapter between them for the pictures. Finally fiddle the starting page numbers for the last chapter. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:56:00 GMT Message-ID: <6c5e708151.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 346 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_BHycZyZO7AA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=pk5fyx1kAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QIqxHAjyR2YDaiWG8zEA:9 a=dgdi-JfXadQ6yepYXT4A:7 a=cCiaMG-6VZETWfsUCYd7XIwRD8sA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZWKUrmVLRFrssi_k:21 a=bnQcjJfXEzIARgR3:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message > <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy > Roberts writes >>3) Can I ALTER the EXISTING second half of the document (i.e. the part >>AFTER where the centrefold pages would go in) into a NEW chapter, >>which I could then re-paginate? >> >>Can't see a simple way of doing that... besides chopping the second >>half out, creating a new chapter and importing the chopped part into >>that...?? Hmm. > I think this is the way. You have to master splitting a chapter into two > parts. You can do that by either copying everything after the middle or > by deleting everything before the middle (and in a copy everything after > the middle). > I'd set off with the document, use the copy and paste chapter facility > to make two chapters with the same contents. Then delete the relevant > material from both. Insert a new chapter between them for the pictures. > Finally fiddle the starting page numbers for the last chapter. Purely out of curiosity, why? Reading a document with a centrefold, I would expect the centrefold pages to be numbered conesecutively with the text either side of them, in which case your "proof" pages work perfectly. It's your document of course, and you will have your own reasons. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 6 18:08:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PPfLu-2Z3Vbs-04-Ebt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:08:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PPfLu-2Z3Vbs-04-Ebt; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:59:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PPfLu-2Z3Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:59:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PPfLt-0002Zy-1q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4EF74D54A11; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291658386; bh=ZJLYnOQLvWEg3TctiYtTIQyh3C4QKR3hZhwSHW32 xRA=; h=Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ZCMbcOAaCH2R5mXtIJFVfOL+23Qy8 //rnJ0SZPdXXsHA3GR4kE+7FxOPhU7anWV2nm1/XG7Zxk2B1aNpp6cZhVSTGoJJMVPT 7Km4eFvFfR9+Y7nQ3D/MpypQu21DxmK0Z0+85bLKpwvcs/Oic4JF5eztIqjnj57dmEx z6fO5pA4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8dlfH06E4z8l; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 351C9D53F99; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291658385; bh=ZJLYnOQLvWEg3TctiYtTIQyh3C4QKR3hZhwSHW32 xRA=; h=Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=UoVLhGKWkjgvAC5CuSvT5uVX1dFij osRVgSLAdVAgV1RydqPNYkrZD4o8FCrA9Cl9Dr2R96nEAIwb1I9fA1/w2X5RyckyUKa R1ZQ4Ib09b6lvHQ3TZzpK2xZfCVQx7dzBZSoNgwo13YTwJcdRxnGEsbW4kp0l0YZnu/ xMAJWCGg= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:59:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07345D53F4C for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1KOVAKnoo1Lv for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4A5C3D53CF8 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from edencroft2.demon.co.uk ([83.104.180.237] helo=MacBook-Pro-2.lan) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PPfLV-00067o-mU for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:59:29 +0000 Message-Id: <76DD88FE-E2FC-419B-9337-A6ACF9C6E4D3@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> From: Jeremy Roberts To: davidpilling@freelists.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Breaking up an existing chapter into two? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:59:29 +0000 References: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-archive-position: 347 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: fjr@edencroft2.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_BHycZyZO7AA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pk5fyx1kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=nRPoPcbS6FXoDHE73DwA:9 a=g6DZU0JpPgwx7vkgEAAA:7 a=1Gz-CgZe19W6NpAYrVzCA5QxFTwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XT_777O_60TZSS2q:21 a=sT0-ncdMlCK6z7nI:21 On 6 Dec 2010, at 12:16, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk > >, Jeremy Roberts writes > >> 3) Can I ALTER the EXISTING second half of the document (i.e. the >> part AFTER where the centrefold pages would go in) into a NEW >> chapter, which I could then re-paginate? >> >> Can't see a simple way of doing that... besides chopping the second >> half out, creating a new chapter and importing the chopped part >> into that...?? Hmm. > > I think this is the way. You have to master splitting a chapter into > two parts. You can do that by either copying everything after the > middle or by deleting everything before the middle (and in a copy > everything after the middle). > > I'd set off with the document, use the copy and paste chapter > facility to make two chapters with the same contents. Then delete > the relevant material from both. Insert a new chapter between them > for the pictures. Finally fiddle the starting page numbers for the > last chapter. > > -- > David Pilling Wonderful! - yep - that did it - at least with a bit of tweaking! Many thanks, David. JR Jeremy Roberts To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 6 18:08:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PPfTn-1i5Vbs-05-EU0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:08:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PPfTn-1i5Vbs-05-EU0; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:08:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PPfTn-1i5Vbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:08:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PPfTe-0006JU-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:08:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7FAEBD56AB6; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291658872; bh=0NKYo4lBnmhJQSPJ94o1HLgq8f+CjBqu2BMCk0XW 210=; h=Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=kH2G63wTYTAotWzxC4vVagKjVsDrt DE+X67AuDU5lgNlh6wJtNXQQiwDUlz36E0ijFEEaQBeqCZHJkIuJaldJ2acrx5KZRFh XEuV6kdRlgB0luvSC5e9Q31J79dLd4QiB7Q3TOdUCFnLGuj9sMGItKkdWTvXBUEYXTH KaS1dITI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PmBIOcFEKXeh; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C29F8D56193; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291658871; bh=0NKYo4lBnmhJQSPJ94o1HLgq8f+CjBqu2BMCk0XW 210=; h=Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Qd6dNniAmWtQqkbYejmMeVUakrfFz UHduokAgGte5l7aaXKVg+k5744NuodFLTrKkkbnZH7hk6IvG/cshikgii2L2fUspIrG fwT+rNEaxPG9ExFzSX+28IHPN2Q8Eh1sqstD30GYxjLji6jLLH48U6GmIVUiW+dhRCz tIN5Dx+I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9C505D56A61 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zl-SFzqObikJ for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B3761D56193 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from edencroft2.demon.co.uk ([83.104.180.237] helo=MacBook-Pro-2.lan) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PPfTK-0004Id-Y7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:07:34 +0000 Message-Id: <5E7E24AC-1FB9-4D06-873D-CC9F91F68CF2@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> From: Jeremy Roberts To: davidpilling@freelists.org In-Reply-To: <6c5e708151.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Breaking up an existing chapter into two? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:07:34 +0000 References: <0A11847B-ACF4-48BD-A711-8E1739B8849E@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> <6c5e708151.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-archive-position: 348 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: fjr@edencroft2.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_BHycZyZO7AA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=n2bYPOz3oshUfo9YYvYA:9 a=AyxW2Bh0lxw8C-Lt6GQA:7 a=dyOXYsGPVc7uAHEFXmEwXQ21J9kA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 On 6 Dec 2010, at 15:56, Alan Adams wrote: [snipped] > Purely out of curiosity, why? Reading a document with a centrefold, I > would expect the centrefold pages to be numbered conesecutively with > the text either side of them, in which case your "proof" pages work > perfectly. It's your document of course, and you will have your own > reasons. As I said in the 'preamble' - the centrefold was generated separately by someone else (and had Plate numbers, but not pagination) and was inserted into my already-sequentially-paginated document at the printers. It's merely the way we have worked up til now since starting a 'colour-section' a few issues ago. But to archive the document, we EITHER have TWO separate documents (a B&W and a colour) OR I try and add the plates into the existing doc, as I now have. JR. Jeremy Roberts To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Dec 7 20:25:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PQ432-29gGPo-03-FUJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:25:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PQ432-29gGPo-03-FUJ; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PQ432-29gGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PQ42o-00065c-KH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65F7DD56C2B; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291753305; bh=B5MsKru94ivKdQzlOJ3dqHK7Y0uKdhCqTw0iNX2D 33Y=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ba3j/nGKS/UDJd n3VSscooTrjzuqNmPxS/yMct2XGLiVqb5dUl42RGJDLPyLZPmsUQvmlPd229ztgtmvX C+GmdRSJIB+9N8g2irfaMJ0Cb7KWRum214sx0dnvPkd/Nf/DFG4vPdE9Iny+9jr6M0s 1RJ4/f7avPC0qiTZLUdds00= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CeCCpnEc+VNs; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A0750D56BE1; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291753304; bh=B5MsKru94ivKdQzlOJ3dqHK7Y0uKdhCqTw0iNX2D 33Y=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=aAjHUiN3nSJM49 FFKT4QEJFdjV9gKhXXYwkgPy/+9guLKaYqY1oCMRQ/AcLry1ezEVz2r8rhOOwnEOnE1 pN4vVr0ZnyaIy5fcY5ksoVpi53XMouzxxYagYUuGRsOtuTZMBTmsHHCBb2k/IJsMA8T 6RuQppDLziw1K9HjNNokKU8= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B51AD56BCE for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v1oMYDeYR2P0 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB973D56C14 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.123.1 ([82.152.223.89]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id oB7KL829005826 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:21:09 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Ovation Pro) To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:17:41 +0000 X-Organization: Orpheusmail, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Odd result using mailmerge Message-Id: <2455538.2017418-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5E7E24AC-1FB9-4D06-873D-CC9F91F68CF2@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 349 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Y75uZwetAw8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Zr49eUlOJl7vkgL-BZEA:9 a=WzayUHs_y6BPrLklvskA:7 a=ghAgVGDsHBr9RS5h96pvnDXshtkA:4 I have a mailmerge application which shows an odd error in Ovation Pro. One of the tags is repeated several times and all but one reproduce correctly. The error is that the first letter of "Estimate" is missing. Changing the font size cures the problem. The only obvious error on my part is that there are a number of space characters before the "E". This is Ovation Pro for windows running under XL. The "faulty tag" is centered and the spaces are there to format the remaining tag positions. Any ideas? John -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Dec 7 21:25:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PQ4ru-1P2000-08-EfR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:25:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PQ4ru-1P2000-08-EfR; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:14:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PQ4ru-1P2000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:14:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PQ4ro-0005xP-B6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:14:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26FBBD56C9C; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291756470; bh=uwxewsiCiYFYbvEOpCDJH8fGY63KLuV/ySdSmieu ezo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=cTkHE22WCZRiA6jDBX8I5CP4HkBNj7zDOR2QA7B4zJ9zbcp4NS BWa2GHIAWoTk4VTP06Bvz2usxeIoeM67YE0kRU7iGYSJy0BEEuyqqOFwFwBvH80tV99 sfcZggrJHM/dYsTNiArty+ANg83J1AmcUNXzGKttf2nmcXthJ/HLww= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ewredjrkcTZr; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BC0ED56AEB; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1291756469; bh=uwxewsiCiYFYbvEOpCDJH8fGY63KLuV/ySdSmieu ezo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=E/f8G+JUj16CoWHWE68gmcBrn9BNyRYm607UlX7fgGS77+qXoX clKYMzM9WWtJwgZ6DyYPrZLY4V0qF4yf4jNs1IT+RehunecdCjuflbC8nwq4mtnIvJd 8L6lEVQno6j1/rhWbx954Bgyd2fmonGCU6WKIS0RMQ1cmjlIU9jw0s= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:14:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11CBAD56BD0 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D4PeYu44dKbF for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55FD3D56BB8 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PQ4rE-0007FX-d8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:14:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:12:43 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd result using mailmerge References: <5E7E24AC-1FB9-4D06-873D-CC9F91F68CF2@edencroft2.demon.co.uk> <2455538.2017418-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2455538.2017418-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 350 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AWSpWXcLUV4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=vWbf7kkjSytTlTNQO1YA:9 a=-rKIJ9cbxE-ptpzhKHQA:7 a=nNfGqC9ybKJdWMjMLKOeTGB2S-IA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=bnd1rWLS9kftJ0XH:21 a=D8cLvdKpOS8_bdTu:21 Hi, In message <2455538.2017418-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro writes >I have a mailmerge application which shows an odd error in Ovation Pro. > >One of the tags is repeated several times and all but one reproduce correctly. >The error is that the first letter of "Estimate" is missing. Changing the font >size cures the problem. Hard to say without seeing it. Probably a bug, perhaps the text is not being re-flowed for some reason. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling