From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:54 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa049-2mQknw-06-Cha.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa049-2mQknw-06-Cha; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:36:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa049-2mQknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:36:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa048-0003ie-BE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:36:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3B12ED1C86F; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 154Fl1SX6+cv; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFC41D1C7D9; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F9F7D1C7EA for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lsMxrau1d0HG for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32184D1C7D9 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.183.46]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6H5Zfbl012573 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:35:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:35:33 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Booklet Message-ID: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2506 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4-gHIV8AgqVB_xnhRn4A:9 a=Dy7ZwD9fBGyc_vOYETYA:7 a=JHjjHhy70ENLEcZvpdAkOntSBeIA:4 Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in question. Booklet printing. Why does it print half each page upside down? Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa0Qq-36BVbs-04-CKt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa0Qq-36BVbs-04-CKt; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:59:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa0Qq-36BVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:59:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa0Qm-0005yr-Hj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B955D1C9A6; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CsC3jdyTlJot; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 584A6D1C987; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30E1FD1C98D for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1HrG+uyYEdaY for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0104D1C987 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100717055905.GTWD3266.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:59:05 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100717055905.KXQG1593.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:59:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:58:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4QByPj+6Iq2k/6L54d+eVKTdgQxdscpRskJJReCfdXo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=QxoVn0uricc9Ui6H0MMA:9 a=siITOnh6q3lQTTCQWJ0A:7 a=H8byDi7tm-jaW_6PRPmaXnKBfgoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=v6B3mtT-N-ckgiKs:21 a=HwBEybNwE2hS9C8T:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2507 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QxoVn0uricc9Ui6H0MMA:9 a=2mG5sCb5WfWyRtTFh54A:7 a=NdlSa_b6kdrCzEDEgprDF8WlGp8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=iDHwWt5q6DJq7tK3:21 a=2Gh6Gsz4jN5_skGR:21 In message <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 > please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in > question. > Booklet printing. > Why does it print half each page upside down? > Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. This is the way I do it for an A5 booklet having changed edit master page to A5. click on print Menu on Format Select Pamphlet click on Print setup, this opens another window change Scale to 100 click Tumble click Set Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa0iT-1ikknw-03-C3G.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa0iT-1ikknw-03-C3G; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:17:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa0iT-1ikknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:17:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa0iP-0002ZC-PT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:17:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BF911D1CA1D; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EubcwpxgB63G; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2B70D1CA04; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EFFFD1CA05 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ur1ixsRUvLEG for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2297FD1CA04 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100717061720.FXRS3075.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:17:20 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100717061719.VINJ1586.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:17:19 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:17:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4QByPj+6Iq2k/6L54d+eVKTdgQxdscpRskJJReCfdXo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=QxoVn0uricc9Ui6H0MMA:9 a=5o-X7srbWtPj0qVvVGIA:7 a=xF69zExCgNw0TzZEWJ6MEPVAGVkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Z5O07eC5geCh9rMP:21 a=1EoQhjlDMW5HQgtM:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2508 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QxoVn0uricc9Ui6H0MMA:9 a=F0DsrN4ohct49iC64KcA:7 a=y68AM0JEGyxCHpnJYb-RA7PHkOUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=q5VTP-ddT73hX_vx:21 a=oSYzgHuL9uN7dwId:21 In message <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 > please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in > question. > Booklet printing. > Why does it print half each page upside down? > Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. This is the way I do it for an A5 booklet having changed edit master page to A5. click on print Menu on Format Select Pamphlet click on Print setup, this opens another window change Scale to 100 click Tumble click Set Oh and I forgot, to set wether you want to start on left or right go to Page, Modify chapter . Then to modify click your preference chapter box to start on left or right. Alan Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa2Pb-4Raknw-08-AM8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa2Pb-4Raknw-08-AM8; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:06:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa2Pb-4Raknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:06:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa2PY-0005X4-AL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:06:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52AFED1CD4B; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1lpcjH0a45py; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 53782D1CC9E; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 20E85D1CD4A for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UeG4KitDTk1Z for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6813D1CC9E for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.143.210]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6H85ukM023205 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:05:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:01:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2509 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7Pb__qJtE-EUXi9WQB4A:9 a=CF3p7gsRWpJ0WpL6mjoA:7 a=4vIubXd99vpFu9oDtSC9C0ZFptAA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=urfot8EgIWevCwJS:21 a=xqGbWwwIjfKlGZ_p:21 In article , Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > > Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 > > please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in > > question. > > Booklet printing. > > Why does it print half each page upside down? > > Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. > This is the way I do it for an A5 booklet having changed edit master > page to A5. > click on print > Menu on Format > Select Pamphlet > click on Print setup, this opens another window > change Scale to 100 > click Tumble > click Set > Oh and I forgot, to set wether you want to start on left or right go > to Page, Modify chapter . Then to modify click your preference chapter > box to start on left or right. > Alan > Alan Erm! Thanks for the thoughts Alan, but I don't have any problem printing Pamphlets. Booklet is a different beast or so it seems. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa2X9-0qyVbs-03-AEa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa2X9-0qyVbs-03-AEa; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:14:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa2X9-0qyVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:14:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa2X5-0001rp-4U for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:14:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 60F85D1CCB9; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJQomCFru88M; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18D97D1C139; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E29A9D1C183 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X7YLtt6+azi8 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D9AFD1C139 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100717081343.ZBUS3192.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:13:43 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100717081343.LNYX1593.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:13:43 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:13:37 +0100 Message-ID: <5955253851.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=TKaFKxtoLyIFp0kSF9QA:9 a=TQ_ruZp-hYtqFuGuSfgA:7 a=Fh8lM7pD_6TKIOlJoPY3-n5OsIUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=mzdH_TvW9WcHGXgy:21 a=7hA2jts_PWpuZCsH:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2510 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TKaFKxtoLyIFp0kSF9QA:9 a=ACL4S3FMnq_PlLTL1B8A:7 a=KV00n_KVsB2GCgEc_T71qkx81DUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=A2wb1p-_aHzyZno2:21 a=kFDNG7HsG-dhJ2T1:21 In message <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > Dr Alan Leighton wrote: >> In message <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> >> Dave Symes wrote: >>> Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 >>> please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in >>> question. >>> Booklet printing. >>> Why does it print half each page upside down? >>> Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. >> This is the way I do it for an A5 booklet having changed edit master >> page to A5. >> click on print >> Menu on Format >> Select Pamphlet >> click on Print setup, this opens another window >> change Scale to 100 >> click Tumble >> click Set >> Oh and I forgot, to set wether you want to start on left or right go >> to Page, Modify chapter . Then to modify click your preference chapter >> box to start on left or right. >> Alan >> Alan > Erm! Thanks for the thoughts Alan, but I don't have any problem printing > Pamphlets. > Booklet is a different beast or so it seems. Whoops Dave, I call an A5 a booklet and in actual fact in my mind a pamphflet is a the long edge version. Now I am not sure what in Ovation terms is a booklet. Just to think I thought I had a last something helpful to say. Wrong. Crash!! Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:09:57 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa2qh-1ctknw-01-9v2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:09:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa2qh-1ctknw-01-9v2; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:34:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa2qh-1ctknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:34:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa2qY-00036l-S4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:34:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4ADBAD1CD7B; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:34:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wf2oApHu6FEv; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25192D1B883; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F2FF1D1CD69 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RDbLO1So2it2 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de (mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de [212.6.122.64]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 59C11D1B883 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-213-182-111-95.teleos-web.de [213.182.111.95]) by mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de (8.12.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o6H8Xjl9029556 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:33:46 +0200 Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 17 Jul 2010 10:33:42 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:33:40 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <3f2b273851.martinv@ucs.de> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> <5955253851.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <5955253851.alan@ntlworld.com> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="573899344--751849673--1366660148" X-CheckCompat: OK X-archive-position: 2511 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=5NHZEqstXrQA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=0nVakUPdAAAA:8 a=IhmyyRk_2FMc1ulc084A:9 a=315qYE7PjDGc3oE6IqUA:7 a=D4YSJZMS11weLaXamWP6lcEEhQIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=W0z3mPXKZ6YA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=G7ythweX2gxHn7ti:21 a=1nkB9Z6qW6aDRddM:21 a=WgQ9YwRF56xB0gprJcMA:9 a=DqMZctvzRn8PeZpcJcUjKoH3qZsA:4 This message is in MIME format which your mailer apparently does not support. 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Alternatively, ask the sender of this message to resend it in a different format. --573899344--751849673--1366660148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <5955253851.alan@ntlworld.com> Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > > > In article , > > Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > >> In message <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> > >> Dave Symes wrote: > > >>> Ovation Pro 2.77 (05 Jan 2010) on a SARPC RO 6.20 > > >>> please assume I have only a trivial understanding of the subject in > >>> question. > > >>> Booklet printing. > > >>> Why does it print half each page upside down? > > >>> Granted it does print half of the page on the back upside down as well. > > >> This is the way I do it for an A5 booklet having changed edit master > >> page to A5. > >> click on print > >> Menu on Format > >> Select Pamphlet > >> click on Print setup, this opens another window > >> change Scale to 100 > >> click Tumble > >> click Set > > >> Oh and I forgot, to set wether you want to start on left or right go > >> to Page, Modify chapter . Then to modify click your preference chapter > >> box to start on left or right. > > >> Alan > > >> Alan > > > Erm! Thanks for the thoughts Alan, but I don't have any problem printing > > Pamphlets. > > Booklet is a different beast or so it seems. > > Whoops Dave, > > I call an A5 a booklet and in actual fact in my mind a pamphflet is a > the long edge version. Now I am not sure what in Ovation terms is a > booklet. Just to think I thought I had a last something helpful to > say. Wrong. Crash!! > > Alan > > > Cheers all, I have lost the beginning of this thread, so please excuse the quoting mess... Maybe the attached DrawFile will help understanding the intricacies of 'Booklet'-printing, it is from the german handbook. If You need a translation - ask. Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. 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Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:40:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Newble To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:40:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <513838433epeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2512 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YPtYHwTAzv0JxNboYW4A:9 a=WiBxvrh32SG_UD8rAcIA:7 a=qVKrFSvWxCMiTbeDgjVpkC8AeVsA:4 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=ABoL6gKzX9ayN-mb:21 a=7lHf1l0V76arFVbD:21 In article <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Booklet printing. > Why does it print half each page upside down? See page 170 (chapter 12) of the manual. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:10:03 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa9Ch-1MJVbs-02-C5Y.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:10:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa9Ch-1MJVbs-02-C5Y; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa9Ch-1MJVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa9Cf-0004VW-3Y for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22394D1CAB2; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lIhlHdURNA+d; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 388BED1BDB7; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED7F4D1C9F4 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rR72hcz4MTZ8 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B787D1BDB7 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.174.13]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6HFL2Xi021979 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:21:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:10:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <51384b762bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3f2b273851.martinv@ucs.de> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <5138243b50dave@triffid.co.uk> <5955253851.alan@ntlworld.com> <3f2b273851.martinv@ucs.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2513 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=5X6kchTs9kIrdbqkbwoA:9 a=jRpTxgLIzloDO3NfuaUA:7 a=2bRw-LvTELbJaao_sIhhYLkRkCkA:4 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 In article <3f2b273851.martinv@ucs.de>, Martin Vethake wrote: [Snippy] > Cheers all, > I have lost the beginning of this thread, so please excuse the > quoting mess... > Maybe the attached DrawFile will help understanding the intricacies > of 'Booklet'-printing, it is from the german handbook. If You need > a translation - ask. > Regards Thanks Martin, I see now. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:10:04 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oa9Cn-0l2Vbs-03-C5S.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:10:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oa9Cn-0l2Vbs-03-C5S; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oa9Cn-0l2Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oa9Cm-00008U-Vm for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3AF8CD1CCB9; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cjEmpCNkug9a; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38999D1C9F2; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 034EED1C9FA for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qb+5k0QAYoaU for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9DE1ED1C9F2 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.174.13]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6HFL2Xk021979 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:21:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:11:42 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513838433epeter@newble.com> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=QnMsQNrnAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sCDkAqm7HWtFtg057qcA:9 a=iVzVUoczXAlobYxPNSIA:7 a=hVxVle2EmE5b41g4ak2mJAw6Fo0A:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=FsJ-lhpLCFmp_CWI:21 a=nc5kdIw7UpcZXStU:21 In article <513838433epeter@newble.com>, Peter Newble wrote: > In article <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > Booklet printing. > > Why does it print half each page upside down? > See page 170 (chapter 12) of the manual. Already looked at that yesterday before posting and didn't follow. However seeing Martin's Drawfile, I now understand. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:10:08 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OaCd5-0ZU000-03-8fA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:10:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OaCd5-0ZU000-03-8fA; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:00:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OaCd5-0ZU000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:00:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaCd2-0003sv-Gj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:00:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36FF2D1CD80; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BuIzCXW0yicX; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2ACDBD1CC84; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B52CFD1CD77 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jy4TxTSq7-fW for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 644C2D1CC84 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SARPC.orpheusnet.co.uk ([91.84.179.114]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6HJ0VIQ005199 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:00:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:59:54 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.03) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=QnMsQNrnAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zDfHmoLL0piBCqRePRoA:9 a=oQf6mklJzCfkJDN3L64A:7 a=1ciYBaSlEfmNYKPl3ZTWNyBjsjkA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=KKA77YTt91yVMLm3:21 a=FU7EQi-agRda9D4z:21 In article <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <513838433epeter@newble.com>, > Peter Newble wrote: > > In article <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > > Dave Symes wrote: > > > Booklet printing. > > > Why does it print half each page upside down? > > See page 170 (chapter 12) of the manual. > Already looked at that yesterday before posting and didn't follow. > However seeing Martin's Drawfile, I now understand. Greetings! I'm grateful to Dave for having advised me on how to access this group - I'd tried before unsuccessfully. In fact I was trying to find a way to produce an A6 booklet (16 sides, 2 A4 sheets) for a Probus club, and thought Dave might know how to go about it. I've subsequently experimented with this in OvPro. The details are described in the 'Ovation Pro Applets' supplement by Beebug under "!Imposit" - but no suggestion is given on how to set up the template in the first case. I now discover that the following works for A6 booklets: Under OvPro's iconbar, Menu/'New': set up 'Other' 150mm H x 105mm W. Use Default master, Columns 1, Top 6mm; Bottom 6mm; Inner 10mm; Outer 5mm. Double - mirror. This sets up the template, with material flowing to new pages. To print, I set it at: Booklet; All pages - first time front, then back (though it's tricky to work out which is the right way round!). Centre; Fit; Collate. This produced (in may case) the 16-page booklet. I did admittedly produce quite a lot of garbage in the process, with about 5 attempts. My problem now, is that I seem to have snookered myself. I was trying to emulate a booklet produced on a Windows machine, with the front cover a different colour from the rest, to differentiate it from the previous year's booklet. I suspect that can only be achieved if one laboriously has non-flowing frames, with each page set up to produce (say) two sets of pages 1 & 16 with 2 sets of pages 2 & 15 on the reverse? Is it back to square one then? Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 17 20:24:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OaCxo-0Sk000-08-Gqx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:24:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OaCxo-0Sk000-08-Gqx; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OaCxo-0Sk000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaCxj-00022V-NQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45980D1CDBB; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:22:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rx8qZESqLOKt; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 50EB8D1B8C7; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25336D1C8AE for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8AO0pwoOA23S for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B7E9DD1B8C7 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OaCxP-0000sk-dY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:21:55 +0000 Message-ID: <$wf1V9AKKgQMFwOp@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:20:42 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 3 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=RYUMKAdNOseCt_VbEjwA:7 a=Fi08T7Wq_IKSpWcTaYdyhypW6ckA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=dUzMbAvw02cDJ99K:21 a=lKVhJJSfV0aU9YC0:21 In message <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding writes >My problem now, is that I seem to have snookered myself. I was trying >to emulate a booklet produced on a Windows machine, with the front >cover a different colour from the rest, to differentiate it from the >previous year's booklet. I suspect that can only be achieved if one >laboriously has non-flowing frames, with each page set up to produce >(say) two sets of pages 1 & 16 with 2 sets of pages 2 & 15 on the >reverse? Is it back to square one then? Printing lets you set a "range" of pages, and this is very versatile, you can enter pages 1,3,16,17, or 1-100,102,103-190 (see the manual). That would be the usual way of setting up to print only the cover pages of a pamphlet. I guess it will work for booklets too. The thing with a booklet is that you potentially have 8 pages on one sheet of paper. I say potentially because if the booklet is not a multiple of 8 pages long, OP does something clever and doubles the pages on one sheet. Anyway, assuming that you want the outside 2 pages and their 2 backs on coloured paper, one is left wondering about the other 4 pages on the sheet. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 11:21:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oam7M-1UFknw-03-FnT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oam7M-1UFknw-03-FnT; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:54:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oam7M-1UFknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:54:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oam7L-0001Nx-AJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:54:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 950B7D1C9AF; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5n6ucFcwpysX; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6BDADD1C5C9; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 212F6D1C63E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rFbLSto+I+dy for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3A58D1C5C9 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dyn-62-56-106-46.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.106.46] helo=Merlin.nom) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH joyces) (Exim 4.69) id 1Oam73-0004Uf-YC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:54:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:27:31 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 4 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2g8_5DjVPxY7dT2FvMQA:9 a=nrlBLJ1TNX2H0V6PcNUA:7 a=HxN3zjz81SDPccnjK3SSnfuIgnsA:4 [snip] > My problem now, is that I seem to have snookered myself. I was trying > to emulate a booklet produced on a Windows machine, with the front > cover a different colour from the rest, to differentiate it from the > previous year's booklet. I suspect that can only be achieved if one > laboriously has non-flowing frames, with each page set up to produce > (say) two sets of pages 1 & 16 with 2 sets of pages 2 & 15 on the > reverse? Is it back to square one then? Can you not make page 1 an appropriate colour (the whole page, not just the text frame) by editing the master page. Then make a following chapter that has the normal white colour. I can forsee problems containing the colour to just the part required - you might get a white edge to page 1, or a coloured stripe down the adjoining page. OvPro lets you make the colour quite subtle by reducing the tint value so that the colour does not overpower. Cheers, Steve To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 11:36:16 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oancs-2fS000-07-EHx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:36:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oancs-2fS000-07-EHx; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:31:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oancs-2fS000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:31:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oancq-0004bd-Ed for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:31:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A2FCAD1C224; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i-YDMVdkd6F9; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 891E1D1C0D4; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56A7FD1C16B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MCu0nXc3Vkwe for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6F8CD1C0D4 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OancQ-0000Fz-Xq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:30:42 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:29:07 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 5 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=72YlIHxjAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6vb7gMNd8IfhMnMX8RUA:9 a=IqxHyenRTxrTMEBupv4A:7 a=-hAPLF-3xbA-yIqs_SieBnHOE3YA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7kqM_6U6NXI4sN6L:21 a=JpKHbl-sbqJqKp2a:21 In message <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce writes >[snip] >> My problem now, is that I seem to have snookered myself. I was trying >> to emulate a booklet produced on a Windows machine, with the front >> cover a different colour from the rest, to differentiate it from the >> previous year's booklet. I suspect that can only be achieved if one >> laboriously has non-flowing frames, with each page set up to produce >> (say) two sets of pages 1 & 16 with 2 sets of pages 2 & 15 on the >> reverse? Is it back to square one then? > >Can you not make page 1 an appropriate colour (the whole page, not just >the text frame) by editing the master page. Then make a following chapter If you know your four outer pages, then you can add a local frame, make it page size, appropriate colour and send it to the back. In combination with having a transparent background for the main flowing bodytext frames, and possibly a page colour for the other pages. There's also the solution of making the outer four pages into two (or perhaps four) sections/chapters, which can then have their own page colours. It all depends how you want to do things, colour printer, colour paper, by hand, professional print shop... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 12:51:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oaojb-0uqGPo-04-DBE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:51:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oaojb-0uqGPo-04-DBE; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:42:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oaojb-0uqGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:42:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaojW-0003fr-2O for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:42:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1E30D1B296; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:42:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z5afBzcLXB2s; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC8FED1B3A3; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 896E6D1CC77 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RMok92Z+CcwL for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32263D1B3A3 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SARPC.orpheusnet.co.uk ([91.84.123.149]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6JBfitI024163 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:41:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:41:25 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <513940077briscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.03) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 6 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=72YlIHxjAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XPtHhVDkxLmmAj-K66wA:9 a=eCzRU09Ak9bnDlzZYnUA:7 a=YW2ZEGdfLgLNiriMX2q61-t49FwA:4 a=9c17bLYSzFXpnjzX:21 a=iDCUAWMqQQWiVwu6:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce > writes > >[snip] > >> My problem now, is that I seem to have snookered myself. I was > >> trying to emulate a booklet produced on a Windows machine, with > >> the front cover a different colour from the rest, to > >> differentiate it from the previous year's booklet. > > > >Can you not make page 1 an appropriate colour (the whole page, not > >just the text frame) by editing the master page. Then make a > >following chapter > If you know your four outer pages, then you can add a local frame, > make it page size, appropriate colour and send it to the back. In > combination with having a transparent background for the main > flowing bodytext frames, and possibly a page colour for the other > pages. > There's also the solution of making the outer four pages into two > (or perhaps four) sections/chapters, which can then have their own > page colours. > It all depends how you want to do things, colour printer, colour > paper, by hand, professional print shop... I'm wanting a DIY solution: to use a mono laser printer, with a different colour paper just for the front 2 pages and the back 2. (All pages are printed on.) Maybe the simplest solution then may be to produce a 20-page booklet, i.e. the normal 16 pages on white paper plus an extra cover made up of local frames, 2 pages at the top of the A4 sheet and a duplicate 2 at the bottom? It's always easier to expand material than to edit it down - we could even fill in with pictures or add notes/scribbling room! Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 12:51:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oaom2-02QVbs-02-D8n.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:51:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oaom2-02QVbs-02-D8n; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:44:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oaom2-02QVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:44:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oaom0-0004Eh-Uj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:44:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 50058D1BB14; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KN+ILzcatZpF; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 256A2D1B2EC; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EED41D1BAE0 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wzHac+9TKTiG for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 483F4D1B2EC for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:44:17 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAJvXQ0zUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACTM40vwDmFJQQ Received: from outmx04.plus.net (HELO outmx06.plus.net) ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 12:44:16 +0100 Received: from 84-51-145-120.brushf720.adsl.metronet.co.uk ([84.51.145.120] helo=Vista-PC) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oaolb-00038x-K0 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:44:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:43:07 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro de-registering itself Message-ID: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 7 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-q1dYc4pi7UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YnpL3Ssa_K2mE5qi8lEA:9 a=hObQi7R48f5qJUU_jkQA:7 a=2sfVSg1bLMnKzDWCZAqlO3Mi2EsA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 I have been an OPro user for many years, on RISC OS and Windows. All of a sudden today when starting the app on W7 the welcome banner has decided that 'my evaluation period has now expired', and inviting me to register on-line. Has anyone any idea why this might have happened, and what to do to fix it? I haven't a clue what my original registration details were. The RISC OS version still works fine. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 13:51:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oapik-3ir000-02-CC5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oapik-3ir000-02-CC5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:45:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oapik-3ir000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:45:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oapii-00033K-7N for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:45:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0B00D1BA48; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U0v6V4g8SRLB; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97E6ED1B9D4; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6A3BED1B9D8 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3s3yxxM1GxKm for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3411ED1B9D4 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OapiP-0007CP-Xg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:45:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:43:31 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <513860809driscos@mdharding.org.uk> <5138dbe12eSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> <513940077briscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <513940077briscos@mdharding.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 8 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7eT5512Xts7vfizOEc8A:9 a=wTWK2xU8iJQ1xJVlNQsA:7 a=pUnlyEkKdC9Jcj8bixlhBy0VdwQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HPMEwu9PU5jJZrUF:21 a=_hQJFX59l3qruhxm:21 In message <513940077briscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding writes >I'm wanting a DIY solution: to use a mono laser printer, with a >different colour paper just for the front 2 pages and the back 2. (All >pages are printed on.) > >Maybe the simplest solution then may be to produce a 20-page booklet, >i.e. the normal 16 pages on white paper plus an extra cover made up of >local frames, 2 pages at the top of the A4 sheet and a duplicate 2 at >the bottom? It's always easier to expand material than to edit it down >- we could even fill in with pictures or add notes/scribbling room! Yes that's one way - do your imposition by hand using frames. Another is to have a separate 4 page document for the covers, and use booklet printing on it, I believe the booklet imposition format is clever enough to realise that you only have 4 pages and double them up on paper. And again, if you know the page numbers of what appears on the cover sheet, enter them as a print range and OP should then print just them on the sheet of paper. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 13:51:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oapm6-3jo000-03-C8j.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oapm6-3jo000-03-C8j; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:48:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oapm6-3jo000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:48:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oapm3-0003u6-Np for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:48:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28F07D1BCD6; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qCBDod7mbZwS; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5AE7CD1BA9C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33696D1BAD1 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gjZufwQDqSDt for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECB1ED1BA9C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Oaplh-0007Km-fJ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:48:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:46:52 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 9 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=CfBtdny3xV-nYSp23RgA:9 a=IycWMQr9_gPmH0hv_yYA:7 a=Igm4H-wswjlPLBSa2CVwPNAgRfEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=fenqzaAMa6MV6Scn:21 a=9ds9KRYr9Kbfj1pL:21 In message <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com>, Robin Hampshire writes >I have been an OPro user for many years, on RISC OS and Windows. All of a >sudden today when starting the app on W7 the welcome banner has decided >that 'my evaluation period has now expired', and inviting me to register >on-line. OP for Windows has to be "registered", when you buy it you get a registration code emailed to you (it is also printed inside the CD case), you select Register... from the help menu in OP and type in this code, the program then tells you it is registered. Clearly when you get a new copy of Windows you have to install OP again and type in the registration code again. One catch is that some versions of Windows (i.e. Win 7) require you to be logged in as an administrator for the registration procedure to work. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 15:06:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OaqwR-4Xtknw-05-AyO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:06:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OaqwR-4Xtknw-05-AyO; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:03:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OaqwR-4Xtknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:03:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaqwJ-0002Xe-Bj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:03:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6DF9D1CD2C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OWl4fT7Gqtvr; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1A80D1CD27; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 565CDD1CD11 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uYVRaEOLRbn9 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0532AD1CD0F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:03:06 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgFAC/4Q0zUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACTM4w/ccIkgngMgiEE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 15:03:06 +0100 Received: from 84-51-145-120.brushf720.adsl.metronet.co.uk ([84.51.145.120] helo=Vista-PC) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oaqvx-0002ND-GX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:03:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro de-registering itself Message-ID: <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 10 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-q1dYc4pi7UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=aXFsqrh8WBXa5KXrijQA:9 a=pW7W8FbqF32YEJTi3NQA:7 a=iJKY4jq5cWtp2sRv4ASxdHxmnIMA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=j7hOy0aAdKMUAAD8:21 a=EtAI_8mVX4P19KHi:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com>, Robin Hampshire > writes > >I have been an OPro user for many years, on RISC OS and Windows. All of a > >sudden today when starting the app on W7 the welcome banner has decided > >that 'my evaluation period has now expired', and inviting me to register > >on-line. > OP for Windows has to be "registered", when you buy it you get a > registration code emailed to you (it is also printed inside the CD > case), you select Register... from the help menu in OP and type in this > code, the program then tells you it is registered. > Clearly when you get a new copy of Windows you have to install OP again > and type in the registration code again. One catch is that some versions > of Windows (i.e. Win 7) require you to be logged in as an administrator > for the registration procedure to work. I suppose that's what must have happened - I upgraded to W7 about 6 months ago and the (registered) copy of OPro that I transferred to it has presumably been quietly counting down some 'evaluation' period since then. I've found the original registration card - it has the four-figure reg number (it is the same as the reg number of my RISC OS version) but no user name. When I try to re-register the Windows version of OPro, I need both this registration number and a valid user name, but I can't guess at a user name that it will accept - any ideas? I've tried various combinations of my name, including forenames, initials, etc, and a relevant company name, but they are all rejected. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 15:21:22 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oar5V-1zH000-08-ApK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:21:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oar5V-1zH000-08-ApK; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:12:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oar5V-1zH000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:12:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oar5Q-0004Kh-OX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:12:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 20950D1C143; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMFqH8-v-Kc6; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A709D1BC39; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 272E4D1BD5F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dm5wdbujC1v2 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B07C5D1BC8C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:12:35 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgFANL5Q0zUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACTM4w/ccJDgngMgiEE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 15:12:34 +0100 Received: from bapfish.plus.com ([84.92.151.71] helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oar57-0005dk-Ub for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself To: From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:26 +0100 Message-ID: <2bdb4d3951.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 11 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Nv01gzrRSiCR7TNNUQIA:9 a=OFdnb2xb0I4NUXk1xsQA:7 a=px7b_RoPO8yNHZJtJ2r3I2b81esA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=MV9tRi_QUKFq32Km:21 a=wXMeJK6FjQ_HBhvl:21 In message <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> Robin Hampshire wrote: > I suppose that's what must have happened - I upgraded to W7 about 6 months > ago and the (registered) copy of OPro that I transferred to it has > presumably been quietly counting down some 'evaluation' period since then. > I've found the original registration card - it has the four-figure reg > number (it is the same as the reg number of my RISC OS version) but no > user name. When I try to re-register the Windows version of OPro, I need > both this registration number and a valid user name, but I can't guess at > a user name that it will accept - any ideas? I've tried various > combinations of my name, including forenames, initials, etc, and a > relevant company name, but they are all rejected. > regards, The Windows version of OvPro has a different reg number to the RISC OS version of OvPro. David will have to remind you of the original Windows username and reg number that was issued to you. Make sure you log on as the Administrator user in Windows 7 when entering the OvPro reg code otherwise it won't work. Logging on as another Windows user with Administrator privileges doesn't enable OvPro to be registered. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 15:51:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OarV8-0UjGPo-04-APh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:51:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OarV8-0UjGPo-04-APh; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:39:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OarV8-0UjGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:39:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OarV4-0003G9-Fb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:39:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2F2AD1CE1C; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ct5D7oFiZxGH; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2BD9D1BDCE; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8516FD1CBEB for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ATubrS5ksMyH for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33604D1BDCE for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:39:04 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EANoAREzUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACTNY0wwxuFJQQ Received: from outmx04.plus.net (HELO outmx06.plus.net) ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 15:39:03 +0100 Received: from 84-51-145-120.brushf720.adsl.metronet.co.uk ([84.51.145.120] helo=Vista-PC) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OarUl-00073u-4x for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:39:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:33:03 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself Message-ID: <51394fbe31robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <2bdb4d3951.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> <2bdb4d3951.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 12 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YnpL3Ssa_K2mE5qi8lEA:9 a=yWaAvOvkhvprFVJjWXQA:7 a=7W1Eq85YuJogOroZq3_HK_u7NhcA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=b_m6Rm3UQeE2qrzt:21 a=olkkZ19id07JmOYx:21 In article <2bdb4d3951.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey wrote: > The Windows version of OvPro has a different reg number to the RISC OS > version of OvPro. David will have to remind you of the original > Windows username and reg number that was issued to you. Thank you - in that case the registration card I found must be even older than I thought it was, but I seem to recall that both RISC OS and W versions had the same reg no, unless I am mis-remembering. > Make sure you log on as the Administrator user in Windows 7 when > entering the OvPro reg code otherwise it won't work. Logging on as > another Windows user with Administrator privileges doesn't enable > OvPro to be registered. There is only one user on this machine, who is the Administrator, bottlewasher and all else besides (I think). regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 15:51:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OarYM-4Xmknw-02-AMT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:51:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OarYM-4Xmknw-02-AMT; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:42:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OarYM-4Xmknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:42:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OarYK-0004mo-DZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:42:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FC37D1B7EB; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sBLhpNG8WLBU; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 119AED1B1C0; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCB91D1B21E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s77h1DW3NIaH for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28A48D1B1C0 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAJoBREzUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACTNY0wwxmFJQQ Received: from outmx06.plus.net (HELO outmx04.plus.net) ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 15:42:24 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OarXz-00007x-V6 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:42:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:42:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Snapper and 64k colour mode Message-ID: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 13 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YpJYp2sTybcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=HddPfHRVHmmsIxzO9J0A:9 a=eeEipor4s1yzA4cR74YA:7 a=XU6hs8DU_zpS2s3zSRUpnWdeAp4A:4 I am not sure how many Snapper users lurk in this mail list, but I have put a new version of Snapper on to the web site. I shall be making an official announcement in comp.sys.acorn.announce in due course, but if you wish to give it a try this is advance info. Apart from now having a web button in the info window, the most obvious change is that it should (I hope!) now work in the new RISC OS 6 64k colour mode. My thanks to Tony Moore who did some testing for me. It was interesting to see that !Paint on my Iyonix would in fact display 64k colour sprites, albeit in strange colours, but crashed when asked to display sprite info. Chris... -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 15:51:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oarf3-1Ke000-05-AFm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:51:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oarf3-1Ke000-05-AFm; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:49:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oarf3-1Ke000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:49:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oarf0-0006LU-My for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:49:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76F64D1BE23; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mxh2FfhtFvbl; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1162BD1B9ED; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E0931D1BA9E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JIsGAM+xfpRZ for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from websrv.quantel.com (websrv.quantel.com [195.12.20.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D5E2D1B9ED for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:49:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <51394fbe31robin@brushford.com> To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:49:51 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-archive-position: 14 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: andy.ling@quantel.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dYEVMWyeAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=vjmOHzC7RViTHhQvHSAA:9 a=0dY2QaoWxvaYilslPPMA:7 a=SF3X3i_s4AWR22PrnfhwuLjgkAAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6eIluTa3ctcI8Ly8:21 a=GY-u5AWpv8rz0pQK:21 Robin Hampshire wrote on 19/07/2010 15:33:03: > There is only one user on this machine, who is the Administrator, > bottlewasher and all else besides (I think). > Yes, but you still have to "become" the administrator to make the registration work. If you right click on the OPW executable, there should be an option to "Run As Administrator". Select this and if it asks for a password use the one for your normal user. If you don't have one, it shouldn't ask. You still need the correct registration details, which I suspect Mr. P will send via a private email. Regards Andy Ling -- This e-mail is intended for the named addressees only. Its contents may be privileged or confidential and should be treated as such. If you are not an intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete it; do not copy, distribute, or take any action based on this e-mail. In the pursuit of its legitimate business activities and its conformance with relevant legislation, Quantel may access any e-mail (including attachments) it originates or receives, for potential scrutiny. Quantel is the trade name used by Quantel Holdings Limited and its subsidiaries. Quantel Holdings Limited is registered in England & Wales. 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Registered address: Turnpike Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2NX, United Kingdom To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 16:06:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oarlr-11s000-04-A8y.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:06:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oarlr-11s000-04-A8y; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:56:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oarlr-11s000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:56:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oarlp-0000ls-S4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:56:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B882FD1BE41; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V1QAwxjyQFJ8; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A4CBD1B7A1; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73BE0D1BBF9 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YuXzvWVX3Hlp for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3C6A6D1B7A1 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.97.42.81] (helo=chris.Cornant) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OarlX-0006SD-Rq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:56:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Bell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:56:20 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper and 64k colour mode Message-ID: <513951dfe4lists@highpath.net> In-Reply-To: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [88.97.42.81] X-archive-position: 15 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@highpath.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L__yaPOy5zAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qtEHtb2Xqk8i-qv1kRYA:9 a=fvMkOd6B5xon69yZ30oA:7 a=3Kwji3NYDi12ZEj8yqSd0DyOD8sA:4 Chris Johnson wrote: > I am not sure how many Snapper users lurk in this mail list, but I > have put a new version of Snapper on to the web site. I lurk and often use Snapper. Thank you! Another Chris. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 16:21:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OarxA-0cJGPo-02-9xf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:21:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OarxA-0cJGPo-02-9xf; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OarxA-0cJGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oarx8-0000Ik-7E for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7FFDD1C4CD; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GP5szx+GsiLC; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A96DBD1BDD5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E229D1BE29 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nJI8vZrWFEL2 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26E20D1BDD5 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:08:04 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EALYGREzUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACTKo0www+CfYIoBA Received: from outmx04.plus.net (HELO outmx06.plus.net) ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 16:07:51 +0100 Received: from 84-51-145-120.brushf720.adsl.metronet.co.uk ([84.51.145.120] helo=Vista-PC) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oarwd-0008GZ-1I for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:07:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:07:19 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself Message-ID: <513952e182robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: References: <51394fbe31robin@brushford.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 16 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=dYEVMWyeAAAA:8 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xFxgi22dW6l-DQpcx8UA:9 a=ZEMM3HvZJ_LXdvsorjoA:7 a=waWxWle7d59TlyxaRZA6W5RK8kEA:4 a=Skpf-qo106oA:10 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 In article , wrote: > Yes, but you still have to "become" the administrator to make the > registration work. > If you right click on the OPW executable, there should be an option > to "Run As Administrator". Select this and if it asks for a password > use the one for your normal user. If you don't have one, it > shouldn't ask. Done, but with same result (i.e. registration rejected) > You still need the correct registration details, which I suspect > Mr. P will send via a private email. OK. I will await his missive. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 16:51:25 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OasQc-2yYVbs-07-9UD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:51:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OasQc-2yYVbs-07-9UD; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OasQc-2yYVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OasQY-00047L-RC for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EB578D1CD13; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a91uhKEd46rc; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5F61D1CAF1; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B9663D1CCA9 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8IqdORRl-3Tb for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81214D1CAF1 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OasQH-0006Aa-ke for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:37:17 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 17 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wPvdCrt5ZzclsIa4H9wA:9 a=O4lb1KAds3DyfsQd7wEA:7 a=ABHPf_9KqAwu5MtSqEG1gzTiGLMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=Jf7-EF1ITUq_XgzA:21 a=RgxtbQoOJV-VcqhX:21 In message <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com>, Robin Hampshire writes >I've found the original registration card - it has the four-figure reg >number (it is the same as the reg number of my RISC OS version) but no No. The registration information is ***inside the CD case***, where it tells you your user name and then the (long) registration code. I will give in at this point and send you an email with the registration code and instructions 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 17:21:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oat3K-1yP000-05-8rV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:21:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oat3K-1yP000-05-8rV; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:18:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oat3K-1yP000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:18:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oat3G-0000Qh-8l for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:18:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D63A2D1BCD5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EHLzGvJjAuqg; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C49A7D1B64F; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E197D1BA90 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y-+WxJEL2P40 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C87ED1B64F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:27 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgFAA4YREzUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACTKIw/ccN4gngMgiEE Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 17:18:25 +0100 Received: from 84-51-145-120.brushf720.adsl.metronet.co.uk ([84.51.145.120] helo=Vista-PC) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oat2v-0002j9-7o for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:18:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:11:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro de-registering itself Message-ID: <513958c410robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5139402f8arobin@brushford.com> <51394cfc83robin@brushford.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 18 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QEUjOJvVdtoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=VK7S-FXNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YnpL3Ssa_K2mE5qi8lEA:9 a=T6vRlYU2DXFBI-XdEDIA:7 a=-oEgjLD6fqS9psL33KMVtEalOmMA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=kPeZUv17suLyaAtT:21 a=9TsfOV6l7ZS89Syv:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > No. The registration information is ***inside the CD case***, where it > tells you your user name and then the (long) registration code. > I will give in at this point and send you an email with the registration > code and instructions 8-) Thanks David. I've received your email and all is working properly again. Don't know where I got the idea that both versions had the same reg no. Senior moment I expect. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 20:06:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oavbr-0LA000-03-EpU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:06:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oavbr-0LA000-03-EpU; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:02:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oavbr-0LA000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:02:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oavbp-0005xP-NJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:02:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 737F8D1C455; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QbhOriV9bdZs; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D35ED1C253; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A093DD1C31E for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ffzRzAZult-M for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52175D1C253 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.101.254]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6JJ2Fvr024765 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:02:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:21:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper and 64k colour mode Message-ID: <513964a5f9dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 19 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L__yaPOy5zAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qtEHtb2Xqk8i-qv1kRYA:9 a=SQBIGseAu0kvKdsOegcA:7 a=MOpjc8npA6plbYGLuFyD9Jpi1-oA:4 In article <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > I am not sure how many Snapper users lurk in this mail list, but I > have put a new version of Snapper on to the web site. [Snippy] I'm a user of Snapper. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 22:08:22 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OaxW2-434Vbs-04-CvJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:08:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OaxW2-434Vbs-04-CvJ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:04:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OaxW2-434Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:04:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaxVv-0005Wi-3K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:04:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F2C6D1B718; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wb0goOuJfujz; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C609ED1B6D0; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 91A4ED1B6C6 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CVcqcqUYvRBC for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC652D1B679 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-201-158.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.201.158]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6JKgjlf032059 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:42:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper and 64k colour mode To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:42:30 +0100 Message-ID: <5e91713951.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513964a5f9dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513964a5f9dave@triffid.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 20 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L__yaPOy5zAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=pZxq26A8FBmQQj3F86gA:9 a=OpMocZ4VZd7QRUD8CUQA:7 a=Os2IfhXFR7CzSnGaFkXSTMjt7ZUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=-FpIy1i7q5Gt56qP:21 a=K4HEyLMlrAdNU3xy:21 On 19 Jul 2010 Dave Symes wrote: > In article <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, > Chris Johnson wrote: >> I am not sure how many Snapper users lurk in this mail list, but I >> have put a new version of Snapper on to the web site. > [Snippy] > I'm a user of Snapper. Me 2. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \/ __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 22:21:37 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OaxY8-1AKGPo-05-CtD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:21:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OaxY8-1AKGPo-05-CtD; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:06:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OaxY8-1AKGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:06:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OaxY2-0000PV-I7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:06:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 60D13D1CF85; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2yxoUZoC6lNz; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3133AD1CEF7; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 01020D1BF7A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d7ZinAygvDbI for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 419A0D1B3DB for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OaxIi-0003Dv-bu for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:51:00 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:49:35 +0100 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 21 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ECO4DV69WaQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=QtRleJJTcWriC4cA9IwA:7 a=Ac2MPbQdKRf2_MoQLGYIhvy1C3cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=bfn_oTkv6rogALFa:21 a=H3A3LFBg0N9INPDn:21 Hi, Someone has come to me a RISC OS Ovation Pro border definition of: Line m 0x92492492 0x1400 0x0 Border test3 m Print this using the PS level 2 driver on RISC OS, take the PostScript to GhostScript and we get: Error: /limitcheck in --setdash-- The border results in a dash pattern with 22 sections in it. I wonder if Martin or John would like to say if this is a known problem with the Acorn drivers and if the level 3 driver does not have such problems? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 19 22:36:37 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oaxut-0cHGPo-04-CWS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:36:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oaxut-0cHGPo-04-CWS; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:30:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oaxut-0cHGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:30:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oaxur-0001Ov-Bd for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:30:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80F85D1D031; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6p4SkUHf9JAV; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F0CED1BBBF; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9355D1D02B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yBVvcDEQB2U3 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7155BD1D00A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:30:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,227,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="204478732" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2010 22:30:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [192.168.0.100]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8BE25A001 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:30:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:30:01 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper and 64k colour mode Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.0) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 22 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L__yaPOy5zAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=iJ6sz_PSBljKpQpmDfMA:9 a=zl__WcGAcvwgVX1HZBYA:7 a=LX23ILFi2VYuL6frWGftGVB7HoQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=vc_qZMxAOr-wski9:21 a=KIcLq06AZfJWQkb2:21 On 19 Jul, Chris Johnson wrote in message <5139509289chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>: > I am not sure how many Snapper users lurk in this mail list, but I have > put a new version of Snapper on to the web site. > > I shall be making an official announcement in comp.sys.acorn.announce in > due course, but if you wish to give it a try this is advance info. That's good news, thanks; I'll download a copy next time the RISC OS machine is on. I use Snapper a lot for grabbing windows, and am not sure how I managed without it now. > Apart from now having a web button in the info window, the most obvious > change is that it should (I hope!) now work in the new RISC OS 6 64k > colour mode. Ah. That won't help me much, I'm afraid... -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 11:45:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ob0sI-0Uuknw-04-9Z3.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:45:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ob0sI-0Uuknw-04-9Z3; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:39:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ob0sI-0Uuknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:39:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ob0sD-0003Hf-KJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:39:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3834ED1C464; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qLzBhrDxTids; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44E2DD1C04B; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11610D1C0B5 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4QsBca1wicvi for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sif.is.scarlet.be (sif.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.28]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6E11D1C04B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hobbes (ip-83-134-174-151.dsl.scarlet.be [83.134.174.151]) by sif.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6K0dZ0t030041 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:39:36 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1279586376; bh=4A0eLfUReR1RdGFuQRHXI81utyz33wwsvCepFmgcA5w=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KehI1Xd6tFuiQb2c4oNCFNnK/pMR0QOjo6TirCs3Y46GlqNpfgeiGACB2OvRPGE4j DfEsAlQPQE0+i8GTBqQYF9+SO5lDXUqkkb3gZPOoApZ6wIec0ZGZmFfvV979fm0Y/3 6WAP8PLORkI0VTDVCiVw6DJ0U6AiMxZKtFp5vA8w= Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:44:46 +0100 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS Message-ID: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.21) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20002; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-archive-position: 23 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q9RCwmyW5kAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Tpfz3TILoZYA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=n05va4osHCKFnp0Gs5YA:9 a=-MtBDD2m5UUimvu0yyQA:7 a=UwhJrxAhVe1LV5vvBwtgZbWuv8MA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 In message you wrote: > Someone has come to me a RISC OS Ovation Pro border definition of: > > Line m 0x92492492 0x1400 0x0 > Border test3 m > > Print this using the PS level 2 driver on RISC OS, take the PostScript > to GhostScript and we get: z> > Error: /limitcheck in --setdash-- > > The border results in a dash pattern with 22 sections in it. > > I wonder if Martin or John would like to say if this is a known problem > with the Acorn drivers and if the level 3 driver does not have such > problems? I doubt it is a problem in the Acorn driver or that our PS 3 driver would make a difference for this issue. A Draw dash pattern gets more or less straight translated into PS (or PDF). 22 dash elements sound a lot but I only know of a documented limit of 11 dash elements for an Adobe's Level 1 PS implementation. I don't think their limit for Level 2 or PS3 implementation, or PDF spec or their Acrobat implementation, is actually publically documented (assuming there is a reasonable limit). But note we're talking about a possible Ghostscript limit, not an Adobe PS interpreter limit. I can't seem to define this border myself and have a go at furhter pinpointing this (I've only added those two ines to !OvnResDir.Border.!Border file, anything else needs to be done ?). John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 11:46:01 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ob7Wh-0DYGPo-03-BRA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:46:01 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ob7Wh-0DYGPo-03-BRA; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:46:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ob7Wh-0DYGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:46:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ob7We-0003a2-73 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FADBD1C248; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:46:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQpU7+uBIr-U; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 160F0D1BD54; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:45:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A43B9D1BD91 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:45:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZsxQgNqpEL78 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 677E0D1BD54 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (91-67-105-117-dynip.superkabel.de [91.67.105.117]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MUlzw-1OXm120lBM-00Yhkk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:40 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:5nQhdGMjwp/pR+xVHcLY3osEBCqBwr698O3RMkQy7gs Ssrzfws5rvOlFf0n0P8MpjUJzZ5KXuRI5eYQ8WDBWWTIyGwyT0 qPjgkhWQLOv+H4/XiRx6mgAfIKMPjLx5BcjwQ9dcuSd2DwSoCI SmBC6oB0EBKcZ03KGPiqUb165wYE7zWMNQDNcWxb5/flWGdQPY Y35qG2ptfEGxX3FxnpIAw== X-archive-position: 24 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q9RCwmyW5kAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Gv2hNDkM02UA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GPgMXQuzRSjH0uHw5L0A:9 a=Bem_hcxpqlO_KXO488IA:7 a=X-BPMgtG2xg5Py9qPf2NURVKidkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> John Tytgat wrote: > In message you wrote: >> Error: /limitcheck in --setdash-- >> >> The border results in a dash pattern with 22 sections in it. >> >> I wonder if Martin or John would like to say if this is a known problem >> with the Acorn drivers and if the level 3 driver does not have such >> problems? > I doubt it is a problem in the Acorn driver or that our PS 3 driver would > make a difference for this issue. A Draw dash pattern gets more or less > straight translated into PS (or PDF). > 22 dash elements sound a lot but I only know of a documented limit of 11 > dash elements for an Adobe's Level 1 PS implementation. That is exactly the limit Ghostscript has. 11 elements work fine, 12 go wrong. The Ghostscript limit is documented in section 3.2 of the manual file "Ghostscript and the PostScript language". The heading says "Typical memory limits in LanguageLevel 1", which does not appear to apply here, but there is no corresponding table for other levels, so this probably applies to all. So, this is purely a Ghostscript issue and not related to the choice of PostScript driver or the way it outputs dash patterns. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 12:45:57 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObB9r-0uTknw-08-GKW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:45:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObB9r-0uTknw-08-GKW; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObB9r-0uTknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObB9m-0005Pt-30 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BD93D1CAD9; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D0riTare++Vn; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E138D1C46A; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66102D1C560 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hcGgKocOCIDj for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDA31D1C46A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ObB96-0004Ua-dP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:36:43 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS References: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 25 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q9RCwmyW5kAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hv3EHSCowOyvmjm_4QoA:9 a=SZdo5TVkEkeBgiaHtYsA:7 a=kVtaP6C2AP7spwnXWrsaQjWG2LoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=4mOvFMYTPvzUGffl:21 a=mwS0Em37ct8Hz0WC:21 Hi, In message <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com>, John Tytgat writes >I can't seem to define this border myself and have a go at furhter >pinpointing this (I've only added those two ines to >!OvnResDir.Border.!Border file, anything else needs to be done ?). That should be all you need to do. You then need to restart OP. It can be tricky to spot the new border in the scrolling pane, if you add the two lines to the ends of the existing lists, the new border should appear just before any Draw file borders. See below for how the borders file should look. Borders (test2) i and (test3) m have 16 and 22 elements. Whilst (test1) A makes OP for Windows go wrong (more about that later). John, Martin, thank you. I will now make my excuses. Firstly setdash looked like a printer driver function. Secondly when I tackled the same problem for Windows, I didn't leave PS to do the dashing, I followed the Draw module's usual logic of taking the line definition and converting it into moves and draws before sending them to PS. In other words I assumed the dashing was done by RISC OS and not by PS. Fancy GhostScript having such a small limit - I should have tried sending the file to my PS printer - I have just done that, RISC OS level 2 driver, HP 4050 level 2, and it falls over with setdash and a stack limit. ------------------------8<------------------------------- //->$.Q.!Ovation.Resources.Borders.Border Line 0 0xFFFFFFFF 0x1400 0x0 Line 1 0xEEEEEEEE 0x1400 0x0 Line 2 0xEEEEEEEE 0x0A00 0x0 Line 3 0xCCCCCCCC 0x1400 0x0 Line 4 0xCCCCCCCC 0x0A00 0x0 Line 5 0xF6F6F6F6 0x0A00 0x0 Line 6 0xFFFFFFFF 0x1400 0x1 Line A 0xAFFFFFFA 0x1400 0x0 Line i 0xABCDEFCC 0x1400 0x0 Line m 0x92492492 0x1400 0x0 Border 1_Plain 0 Border 2_Double1 0_0 Border 3_Double2 0_00 Border 4_Double3 00_0 Border 5_Triple1 0_0_0 Border 6_Dotted1 1 Border 7_Double4 000_000 Border 8_Quad1 0_0_00_00 Border Triple2 0_00_0 Border Triple3 00_0_00 Border Dotted2 2 Border Dotted3 3 Border Dotted4 4 Border DashDot5 5 Border Round 6 Border Round2 666_0 Border test1 A Border test2 i Border test3 m -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. 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FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 17:16:06 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObFTH-3YrVbs-01-C16.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:16:06 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObFTH-3YrVbs-01-C16; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObFTH-3YrVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObFTB-0002dB-Eq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:15:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46F6AD1C54F; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rUxqWsYLbqYd; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3D849D1B9C0; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13526D1C4F7 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkIKZq-bQLy0 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de (mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de [212.6.122.64]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 754A3D1B9C0 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-41-6.teleos-web.de [87.245.41.6]) by mail-in2-pp.ewetel.de (8.12.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id o6KGEcUw025569 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:14:39 +0200 Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 20 Jul 2010 18:14:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:14:31 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-CheckCompat: OK X-archive-position: 26 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=5NHZEqstXrQA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=QnMsQNrnAAAA:8 a=0nVakUPdAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uinB_NkSRrZ1wzEzTjwA:9 a=PeP9hNBdQgLbVW9hAzsA:7 a=TE-Vnw7xMgM4idxd-cEFYYXpgFUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=W0z3mPXKZ6YA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=k3JQaS5E10RGEn58:21 a=Rzzj85UPxl0WRmKj:21 In message <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <513838433epeter@newble.com>, > Peter Newble wrote: > > In article <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > > Dave Symes wrote: > > > Booklet printing. > > > > Why does it print half each page upside down? > > > See page 170 (chapter 12) of the manual. > > Already looked at that yesterday before posting and didn't follow. > However seeing Martin's Drawfile, I now understand. > How nice, I'm glad the drawing was helpful. Especially because back in the day ('97) I had smuggeled a tiny little topological impossibility into the drawing. I used to have cash and prizes for the first to spot it, but - the game is over now. Have fun finding where it is... -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 17:31:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObFgl-0eKVbs-05-Bnc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:31:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObFgl-0eKVbs-05-Bnc; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObFgl-0eKVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObFgi-0001T0-2N for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B998DD1CC12; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y0BdzwTkYvmb; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A60ED1C83B; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6EF12D1C8C9 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CzM-ZtShgbQK for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19E11D1C83B for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SARPC.orpheusnet.co.uk ([82.152.255.87]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6KGSeaW021423 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:28:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:25:17 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <5139ddda98riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.03) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 27 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=QnMsQNrnAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=y2fM9ETi9LTERFoGUa4A:9 a=4pimp5r3qec-lKu_OmoA:7 a=HiMt2EkbVaPR0dW5Xrta-EeKOBgA:4 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=tN5BlKOkaknM23p1:21 a=J_r63IzNo4toIK8h:21 In article <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de>, Martin Vethake wrote: > In message <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <513838433epeter@newble.com>, > > Peter Newble wrote: > > > In article <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > > > Dave Symes wrote: > > > > Booklet printing. > > > > > > Why does it print half each page upside down? > > > > > See page 170 (chapter 12) of the manual. > > > > Already looked at that yesterday before posting and didn't follow. > > However seeing Martin's Drawfile, I now understand. > > > How nice, I'm glad the drawing was helpful. Especially because > back in the day ('97) I had smuggeled a tiny little topological > impossibility into the drawing. I used to have cash and prizes for > the first to spot it, but - the game is over now. > Have fun finding where it is... Conjoined middle pages (at bottom middle of sketch showing the folded booklet)? Thanks for the help. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 19:01:15 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObGwY-0kLVbs-06-AXp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:01:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObGwY-0kLVbs-06-AXp; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:49:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObGwY-0kLVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:49:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObGwW-0002GJ-Ry for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:49:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15C7ED1C706; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RpPJmjQ1bTAY; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B01CD1C1A2; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F09ED1C602 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDl-cqiyr7cy for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 17A8ED1C1A2 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ObGwD-0002v6-WN for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:49:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:47:59 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 28 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=YiC0MPqx_OqmfgK76OkA:7 a=8aOM_61DYlOY8rOLjnboXb7lLV8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=Vm9xKDObOqoQoEVf:21 a=4buP8TSr4RyxocX4:21 In message <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de>, Martin Vethake writes > How nice, I'm glad the drawing was helpful. Especially because >back in the day ('97) I had smuggeled a tiny little topological Inside !OvnPro.Applets.!Imposit there is a !Help file, in the form of an OP document which has a diagram explaining. Imposition gets complicated. There is a book "The New Designer's Handbook" by Alastair Campbell with lots of incomprehensible diagrams in. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 19:31:16 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObHW5-0KdVbs-08-9yI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:31:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObHW5-0KdVbs-08-9yI; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObHW5-0KdVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObHW3-0005Xo-5R for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4102D1CE41; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3QmJWenQbNZ9; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B7DBD1CE31; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:25:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E19ACD1CE32 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:25:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xv4XNVMIyC5U for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A47AD1CE31 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.182.19]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6KIPlC5029989 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:25:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:18:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <5139e83f08dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 29 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yzoXnY5x_rl-0GBH_eEA:9 a=cUGw2VH9sDQ5UFVutPQA:7 a=ZlmM2jj-5zqibDreTrpncoGbOsIA:4 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=qKENurD6N20V3yOj:21 a=3jyxccfkF0VrQC4-:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de>, Martin Vethake > writes > > How nice, I'm glad the drawing was helpful. Especially because > >back in the day ('97) I had smuggeled a tiny little topological > Inside !OvnPro.Applets.!Imposit there is a !Help file, in the form of > an OP document which has a diagram explaining. > Imposition gets complicated. There is a book "The New Designer's > Handbook" by Alastair Campbell with lots of incomprehensible diagrams > in. So there is... Had you not mentioned it Mr P., I would have gone to my grave not aware of it. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 19:31:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObHWp-1Enknw-01-9xY.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:31:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObHWp-1Enknw-01-9xY; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObHWp-1Enknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObHWk-0002ag-EV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 64496D1CE43; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ctyvjcmH-j1; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70894D1C0CE; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B74AD1CE39 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DwFeL-r1plCT for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3876CD1CD08 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SARPC.orpheusnet.co.uk ([82.152.255.87]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6KIQTNx030055 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:26:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:23:07 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet Message-ID: <5139e8a46friscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.03) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 30 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=r9OpWUInctUddnnF29kA:9 a=7MdvOiYafiHdAJYy3T8A:7 a=BLTtGWZZ5dIcR7j7kj_6_zq3AcgA:4 a=sdViDB0ecb4A:10 a=F4nwVTeIY29y06E1:21 a=gWspvIbfUK7DBCBK:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de>, Martin Vethake > writes > > How nice, I'm glad the drawing was helpful. Especially because > >back in the day ('97) I had smuggeled a tiny little topological > Inside !OvnPro.Applets.!Imposit there is a !Help file, in the form > of an OP document which has a diagram explaining. The difficulty lay in how to set up the initial A6 template file, which after trial and error was successful. > Imposition gets complicated. There is a book "The New Designer's > Handbook" by Alastair Campbell with lots of incomprehensible > diagrams in. I tried to submit an enquiry, under a different thread, but for some reason it's never appeared. In it I wrote: I've tried to find answers to this via the Mailing List Archive, but so far I've not managed to get the Search facility to work with Netsurf, even when looking up something I'd checked was there. So please forgive me if this question is old hat - I really have tried to find out the answer. The Manual for OvPro. What edition ought I to be looking at, or buying in printed format? The page numbers people have referred to, infer a later edition than the hard copy 1996 version that came with the floppies, or the 2000 screen version ('Documents') I received with my upgraded CD version. Neither of these seems to mention details that David Pilling mentioned concerning the printing of specific pages. I'm using v 2.77. Is there a lot more to OvPro that I'm missing out on? Sorry to divert this thread into this question. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 20 21:16:28 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObJ5M-1IKGPo-08-GvX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:16:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObJ5M-1IKGPo-08-GvX; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:06:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObJ5M-1IKGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:06:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObJ5J-0003D9-TY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:06:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C4E44D1C909; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5qrfDUvC8pa; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A94B2D1C91C; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C2D7D1C91E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3vhOdVLm5OAh for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 35247D1C91C for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ObJ4s-0001pH-ih for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:06:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:05:05 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Booklet References: <513816dc8cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513838433epeter@newble.com> <51384b9c06dave@triffid.co.uk> <49dedc3951.martinv@ucs.de> <5139e8a46friscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5139e8a46friscos@mdharding.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 31 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2VCjR4WEHqjki-GYIEAA:9 a=hp4p7PrVE5rhLYgU0DMA:7 a=dhrYmnriq0jPdl0bviilansBwF8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HchgiMbSzLL-9DDQ:21 a=HZNHTbChEJyow2FI:21 In message <5139e8a46friscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding=20 writes >The page numbers people have referred to, infer a later edition than >the hard copy 1996 version that came with the floppies, or the 2000 >screen version ('Documents') I received with my upgraded CD version. >Neither of these seems to mention details that David Pilling >mentioned concerning the printing of specific pages. Some people may be talking about the Windows version, the manual for=20 that is available online (www.davidpilling.com/cd). I expect it is the=20 most up to date. Some changes to the RISC OS version of the program are=20 contained in the text files that accompany each upgrade. Page 170, chapter 12 has lots of stuff about the print range icon. That=20 is the version of the manual supplied on the RISC OS CD. You can forget the wire bound Beebug (printed on it) manual of 1996. The=20 three ring binder version which I published is the same as the one on=20 the CD. To give you a taste: A page range can be written as: Pn start and end with page Pn Pn-Qn Start with page Pn and end with page Qn Page ranges can be concatenated with a comma. The following examples are=20 valid: 1.1=E2=80=936.5 1,2,3,9,18,20 1,6,88=E2=80=9399 1 to 15 A1 to A6, A10 to 15.6,36,45 --=20 David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jul 21 17:42:10 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObYqR-18gGPo-07-9gy.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:42:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObYqR-18gGPo-07-9gy; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:56:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObYqR-18gGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:56:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObYqQ-0001U4-Av for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:56:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 00474D1CD8C; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:56:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TeqyNR-Ui+zu; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9EFDED1B4E3; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77C5AD1BF88 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zqGf4qsw2lGp for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A42CD1B4E3 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ObYq4-0000iF-a9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:55:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:55:45 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS References: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 32 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q9RCwmyW5kAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=2g-BkyVZr_gaws9cxdUA:7 a=hCs7_e33SquYfCGdJTGDPJyaINMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xpBamnO5bOfh6_qL:21 a=y00lHn-IpPdNPmdZ:21 Hi, A thought on borders The problem border was a line of form Line m 0x92492492 0x1400 0x0 in bits 1001 0010 0100 1001 0010 0100 1001 0010 9 2 4 9 2 4 9 2 It is a repeating pattern of 1 (one unit of line) followed by 00 (two units of space), in 32 bits you get about ten repetitions which ends up feeding around 20 dashes to PostScript. The point is that one could instead have a line pattern of eleven bits set to one, followed by twenty-one bits set to zero. The results should be the same because the pattern is stretched, but the pattern fed to PostScript will only have 2 dashes. The code in OP performs various manipulations on the line patterns to reduce the dash data, obviously it is not clever enough to spot the above. Conundrum - what is the pattern which produces the longest sequence of dashes and can't be simplified. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jul 21 17:42:20 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ObaC4-0BqGPo-08-Grr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:42:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ObaC4-0BqGPo-08-Grr; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ObaC4-0BqGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ObaBy-0002xX-Ms for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14B20D1CF87; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:22:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14Y5u15qfRi5; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D74CBD1A7ED; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A78A2D1B74B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5jpLePNM2sjH for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail14.bluewin.ch (mail14.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.62]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70378D1A7ED for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:25 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.78.77.99] Epoch[1279722084] Received: from [83.78.77.99] ([83.78.77.99:24536] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail14.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 0D/E9-01107-362074C4; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:21:24 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: PostScript problem with complex border definitions RISC OS To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:21:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3bbf873951.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100721-0, 07/21/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 33 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q9RCwmyW5kAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Q0v1xfZPO61ImzCg0sAA:9 a=ZIOw4vZY6ObHTZBdy10A:7 a=LGZyGJiol2SE9onnRa4nxHig4x8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ELSn5zZnV-Qd04x1:21 a=9seyQtT7w0Ut7Rik:21 David, In message David Pilling wrote: I had not received this message before sending my prior message. This message does make some things clear. I'll work on it and the come back to you. With solutions hope. > A thought on borders > The problem border was a line of form > Line m 0x92492492 0x1400 0x0 > in bits > 1001 0010 0100 1001 0010 0100 1001 0010 > 9 2 4 9 2 4 9 2 > It is a repeating pattern of 1 (one unit of line) followed by 00 (two > units of space), in 32 bits you get about ten repetitions which ends up > feeding around 20 dashes to PostScript. > The point is that one could instead have a line pattern of eleven bits > set to one, followed by twenty-one bits set to zero. The results should > be the same because the pattern is stretched, but the pattern fed to > PostScript will only have 2 dashes. > The code in OP performs various manipulations on the line patterns to > reduce the dash data, obviously it is not clever enough to spot the > above. > Conundrum - what is the pattern which produces the longest sequence of > dashes and can't be simplified. -- Greetings, Jan-Maarten To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:05 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OcXNj-3QCVbs-01-8pI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OcXNj-3QCVbs-01-8pI; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:34:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OcXNj-3QCVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:34:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OcXNh-0005uZ-9H for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:34:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BEAC3D1CD09; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lae6+HMrtA5S; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97E20D1CC51; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6937DD1CCBF for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HI7ZOjBBhxHu for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1422FD1CC51 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.177.179]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6O5YBqm003325 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:34:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:25:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Insert Page Message-ID: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 34 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=DR0yh1nGjmEFqAC_MIAA:9 a=zhVXlEU1_UljrNtxioQA:7 a=1S1y2dO3FCV9SqVhDpie493FTDEA:4 a=flrPymuVpGWyDPQQ:21 a=b0SG6ePyoyA8Ju7R:21 Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 Document: Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no additional flowing frames. I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the menu I do... Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 pages after page 1 [OK] It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no blank page after the end of page 1. Why? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OcYbY-29XVbs-07-G7z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OcYbY-29XVbs-07-G7z; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:53:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OcYbY-29XVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:53:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OcYbT-0006By-8U for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:53:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D9C4FD1CE8C; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WsSGjVBLT8dW; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73344D1BC39; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46A6DD1CDE5 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oAgvOPtzNTVT for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C2999D1BC39 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100724065234.LVTH3192.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:52:34 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100724065234.MGOU1586.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:52:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:52:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1bc2b83b51.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3ENABmdyEd/Fm7fR7+mZIuMDn6+IErAeEhlfWBImZFk= c=1 sm=0 a=59hYL_ZvyJgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=UbdIz94WyQ-anSPlxQgA:9 a=OJ6JtsAnkI2CGskjo70A:7 a=ao3qdU6fMrfb8Cj-D5OdbIYly9cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=UscHEliZUXvosKB0:21 a=gdPwDiBWpya0WsVg:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 35 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UbdIz94WyQ-anSPlxQgA:9 a=1JAnQnR7uImYrsaOg7kA:7 a=J5i_TdzacERh2JhRYpePdBjp080A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=BpSh-nuEK0T3aAez:21 a=dXAoiWJNDl6e2Bwv:21 In message <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 Ovation Pro 2.77 on Iyonix 5.13 > Document: > Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no additional > flowing frames. > I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the > menu I do... > Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 pages > after page 1 [OK] > It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no blank > page after the end of page 1. If I do it I insert the page after page 2 and it works fine except it will be after page 2. The numbers are right. I then cut and paste. I never have worked out how to get one inserted between pages 1 and 2. The other way is to simply draw a text frame. Alan 8-( -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:08 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oca92-1Bm000-01-EaV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oca92-1Bm000-01-EaV; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:31:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oca92-1Bm000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:31:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oca8z-0000n0-Bs for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8A1AD1D457; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nYkLYTSPxUxx; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75849D1D424; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B56BD1D426 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bN1maW4Zea31 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.bluewin.ch (mail13.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.62]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D9749D1D424 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:31:22 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.76.161.26] Epoch[1279960281] Received: from [83.76.161.26] ([83.76.161.26:6019] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail13.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 4F/CB-22834-7D4AA4C4; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:31:21 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: <42c8c13b51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <1bc2b83b51.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <1bc2b83b51.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100724-0, 07/24/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 36 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=1LIUKu8ymKQ9jPKK5iYA:9 a=ZHNKyaj_hPojPlC6MP0A:7 a=VO_WuyXyleZn0w3M96Mq78FwodUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=8ktyxIVQPxVH8AiI:21 a=9rYJjQwAFWEnoCLQ:21 In message <1bc2b83b51.alan@ntlworld.com> Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: >> Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 > Ovation Pro 2.77 on Iyonix 5.13 >> Document: >> Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no additional >> flowing frames. >> I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the >> menu I do... >> Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 >> pages after page 1 [OK] >> It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no >> blank page after the end of page 1. Logic. Depends on the setting of auto-page Insert/Delete in Preferences (CtrlP). > If I do it I insert the page after page 2 and it works fine except it > will be after page 2. The numbers are right. I then cut and paste. I > never have worked out how to get one inserted between pages 1 and 2. > The other way is to simply draw a text frame. It is all explained in the manual paragraph 11.8 (page 159) -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:08 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocarw-0YQVbs-06-Drb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocarw-0YQVbs-06-Drb; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:18:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocarw-0YQVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:18:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocars-0004HD-TY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:18:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 17C55D1D38D; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:18:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s71o208GvRSN; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 227E7D1CFEF; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:17:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EAFD8D1D1A8 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:17:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4PLA9c8HOHCU for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mxi2.callplus.net.nz (mx194.callplus.net.nz [202.180.66.194]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62439D1CFEF for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:17:44 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiAFAKZMSkzLZNAb/2dsb2JhbACIboovjEdyvzSFNgQ Received: from 203-100-208-27.callplus.net.nz (HELO XPHOMEPC) ([203.100.208.27]) by ismtp02.callplus.net.nz with SMTP; 24 Jul 2010 21:17:42 +1200 Message-ID: From: "Dan McCarthy" To: References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:36 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-archive-position: 37 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: danmccat@slingshot.co.nz Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=fjGjXjxWEXlhMo5_UrgA:9 a=gUjmaiHKIXOScNGglSUA:7 a=6Qeepf8Mpb68dpFDR31MY5WpUk0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=1vnIsp7x6soYsYvY:21 a=RLCxeBjabVOj2SUa:21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Symes" To: Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Insert Page I would say it does create the new page then deletes it because there is nothing on it, if you have anything on P2 go to the start of P2 and press ctrl-enter twice if there is no content Put in a dummy word Cheers Dan > Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 > > Document: > Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no additional > flowing frames. > > I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the > menu I do... > > Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 pages > after page 1 [OK] > > It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no blank > page after the end of page 1. > > Why? To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OccZ5-2ZVknw-01-CAS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OccZ5-2ZVknw-01-CAS; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:06:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OccZ5-2ZVknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:06:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OccZ4-0006MV-67 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:06:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D8F8D1CDB7; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gkhki+sc6AFX; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 168EED1BD1E; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DBBEBD1CD46 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mLTtJWhAUPvK for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BF7BD1BD1E for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk (blake.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.204]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OB6IqI016291 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:06:18 +0100 Received: from 212.183.140.36 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cc16) by webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:06:27 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:06:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page From: "Colin Carnegie" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 38 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jrl9aWqpSmUk7SRGEWkA:9 a=_rEa920aw3EAy3IrPP0A:7 a=Mr_jvnM9tSUxxvF9vKrkhTddh2MA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=V9K6FEznt__ywhnm:21 a=ueYA9AoapdBDkAhc:21 Hello > Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 > > Document: > Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no additional > flowing frames. > > I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the > menu I do... > > Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 pages > after page 1 [OK] > > It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no bla= nk > page after the end of page 1. > > Why? Could it be: Menu (over the document)->Misc->Preferences->General Preferences - Auto Page Delete is Ticked, OvPro sees your newly created p= age as empty, and thus immediately deletes it > > Thanks > Dave > > -- > > Dave Triffid > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpi= lling > Best Wishes Colin To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:10 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocdmf-2hKGPo-06-Aws.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocdmf-2hKGPo-06-Aws; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:24:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocdmf-2hKGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:24:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocdme-0004RS-3P for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 977BBD1D1E0 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk (blake.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.204]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OCOOf2019330 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:24:24 +0100 Received: from 212.183.140.36 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cc16) by webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:24:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <9423.212.183.140.36.1279974273.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:24:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page From: "Colin Carnegie" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 39 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PJIjczn73Johz5WV0nEA:9 a=fMB5ydushRuO_YX1RsQA:7 a=LXbiBS2N-L3hzc5yHtvZS0__IOkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 Many apologies to the list for the multiple posts - problems with Windows Mail and VirginMedia's new smtp servers at my end --=20 Colin Carnegie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Och4P-25Nknw-06-GBe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB298D1CDEE for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yIWSv9Tnic5Z for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55CA5D1CD07 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.182.4]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OFsohi027412 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:52:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=CUzElw1UAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7EHcU28jMqlE9vdxib4A:9 a=e32y_b1yuXTO1pO1X6gA:7 a=4zQmCNeNcxunGVQ0OJdhWfUP0DYA:4 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=51M_elUy15WwYwAz:21 a=lL4AU6-26xBdaAvD:21 In article <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Colin Carnegie wrote: > Hello > > Ovation Pro 2.77 on RISC OS 6.20 > > > > Document: Single chapter with a number of pages, no graphics and no > > additional flowing frames. > > > > I want to insert a new blank page beteween pages 1 and 2, so using the > > menu I do... > > > > Menu-Page>Insert page and in the dialogue window set as, Insert 1 > > pages after page 1 [OK] > > > > It doesn't, the document still has the same number of pages, and no > > blank page after the end of page 1. > > > > Why? > Could it be: Menu (over the document)->Misc->Preferences->General > Preferences - Auto Page Delete is Ticked, OvPro sees your newly created > page as empty, and thus immediately deletes it > Best Wishes > Colin I've now checked as you note above Colin and it was set as you suggest (not something I ever set) I've now Set "Auto page delete" OFF and it does indeed insert a new page, but not between page 1 and 2 (Insert 1 pages after page 1) but at the end of the damn document. And no, the caret is not at the end of the document when I issue the instruction. Grrrr! Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Och4S-3XOVbs-05-GBb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Och4S-3XOVbs-05-GBb; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Och4S-3XOVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Och4O-00050m-TY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A178D1CFC0; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l7jx2yIIY0Ed; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F241BD1C9B3; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8A88D1CD28 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hBvFT8rza+yY for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 428BCD1C8B8 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.182.4]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OFsohg027412 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:45:12 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513be98747dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 40 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RgwzcRf_IFhu9Dh6eEIA:9 a=jVGMTQ6Ds3i-CajowU4A:7 a=FJC0SdMfi15_x1EpAhBdQj_99MYA:4 In article , Dan McCarthy wrote: > I would say it does create the new page then deletes it because there is > nothing on it, if you have anything on P2 go to the start of P2 and > press ctrl-enter twice if there is no content Put in a dummy word > Cheers Dan Yes it does indeed seem to create a page then immediately delete it, but the problem is not as you assume. It's a multi page document (Now reduced to three pages for the testing of this silliness) there is already text on all three pages. I've now checked the document preferences, see my other replies. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Och4b-3XmVbs-05-GBS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Och4b-3XmVbs-05-GBS; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Och4b-3XmVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Och4Y-0005da-3i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DA2BD1D1C5; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i23VQSEQnUlw; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3872AD1CA61; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11F69D1CD03 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0CvR8blxcDDg for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B39A2D1CA61 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.182.4]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OFsohe027412 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:54:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:38:28 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513be8e992dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <42c8c13b51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <1bc2b83b51.alan@ntlworld.com> <42c8c13b51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 41 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BQp3frUNh4WtIA_PKtMA:9 a=uA-M208xMWov2UTvpZUA:7 a=3pb-k9_rtwIgClzAvZdw5_scMjQA:4 In article <42c8c13b51.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch>, Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: [Snippy] > It is all explained in the manual paragraph 11.8 (page 159) Sorry, in light of what's now happening... Doesn't make any sense to me. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OchNJ-0RPGPo-07-Fsk.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OchNJ-0RPGPo-07-Fsk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:14:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OchNJ-0RPGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:14:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OchNH-00044k-Cv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:14:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6075D1C715; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7GSe5QxBGH9H; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73503D1C68E; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F3B6D1C695 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dLCC5aquAnMC for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F1A60D1C68E for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:13:57 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHAJ+uSkxUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACTHYxIcb9MhTYE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2010 17:13:56 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OchMK-0006H3-9b for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:13:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:13:27 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 42 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sX3m3Vt86Wz4iZVt3zYA:9 a=tLf1bmxo9choO6LorMsA:7 a=huKyIDQIgIEf4EtujDlVTLrPXmsA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Euf5i0ziNSUJS8g0:21 a=eLioLqV5toghKZmK:21 In article <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I've now checked as you note above Colin and it was set as you > suggest (not something I ever set) I've now Set "Auto page delete" > OFF and it does indeed insert a new page, but not between page 1 > and 2 (Insert 1 pages after page 1) but at the end of the damn > document. And no, the caret is not at the end of the document when > I issue the instruction. Do you have auto flowing text between pages (you are using master pages that are linked to autoflow text)? If you do, then the text will flow back into the new page and the last page will be now empty (and would be deleted if auto page delete was set). You need to unlink the master pages and/or use local frames to prevent the text being reflowed. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OchNP-2XZVbs-04-Fse.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OchNP-2XZVbs-04-Fse; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:15:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OchNP-2XZVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:15:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OchNM-0004qf-GK for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:15:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D91FD1C8B1; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZYpdsX-Ht0Ph; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADF58D1C696; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84F73D1C699 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e4QpIKprJ1Em for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 102DFD1C696 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.182.4]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OGE8Ba028515 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:14:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:14:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bec2f35dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 43 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6LI-9nVvHy-K35bGavEA:9 a=_YvECd1eIt0wjlVjc5kA:7 a=oHnTfYBYRj4fDcxrLY953LCcPfsA:4 Instead of doing Menu-Page-Insert page which is not behaving, I've done... Menu-Misc-Insert-New page, and that does work correctly. Obviously only at the caret point as this method doesn't have the Insert page dialogue. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 18:59:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ochg7-3B3Vbs-04-FZw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:59:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ochg7-3B3Vbs-04-FZw; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ochg7-3B3Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ochg4-00068T-Qa for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:34:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6D53D1CBAF; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eXW6prz4iRPW; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4F0BD1C6A2; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9C9DD1C6B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j2sCtiWXVNQH for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57925D1C6A2 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.182.4]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OGXoS6029289 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:33:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 44 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jv3as4-6Q3q10dl7idoA:9 a=ezb3ywMhFR7dK658TG8A:7 a=lj0Ns6xoXUOmakyjcBwzjc6yqN8A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=e2I1K0mwRgHI2BoH:21 a=NLjPu0KzL_LD-6fX:21 In article <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > I've now checked as you note above Colin and it was set as you > > suggest (not something I ever set) I've now Set "Auto page delete" > > OFF and it does indeed insert a new page, but not between page 1 > > and 2 (Insert 1 pages after page 1) but at the end of the damn > > document. And no, the caret is not at the end of the document when > > I issue the instruction. > Do you have auto flowing text between pages (you are using master > pages that are linked to autoflow text)? If you do, then the text > will flow back into the new page and the last page will be now empty > (and would be deleted if auto page delete was set). You need to > unlink the master pages and/or use local frames to prevent the text > being reflowed. Sorry... Lost. Originally, click OvPro and my default document opened. Page with nothing on except a box/frame at the bottom with Page number. Page gets filled with text, at the bottom a new page is created... and so on. ? Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 19:13:41 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocj2S-43Hknw-03-EDb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:13:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocj2S-43Hknw-03-EDb; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:01:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocj2S-43Hknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:01:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocj2M-0005dq-I8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:01:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A61ED1C699; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fyjoNJgf3nEQ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A340D1C1C6; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F436D1C5B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UBW85A6oc+K5 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 184F7D1C1C6 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:01:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHALTHSkxUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACTHYxJcb8UhTYE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2010 19:01:02 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ocj1y-000869-EK for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:01:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:00:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 45 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=k6RdavOnvpY3QmtGMCsA:9 a=CDmKNz_OqygZBKl_qe4A:7 a=LwWmblKZ-JmIIrUIQ3FJK9PinRcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=PDd8l_0-lFCjE5kA:21 a=0MhfVLES_vQIeLdD:21 In article <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > > Do you have auto flowing text between pages (you are using master > > pages that are linked to autoflow text)? If you do, then the text > > will flow back into the new page and the last page will be now empty > > (and would be deleted if auto page delete was set). You need to > > unlink the master pages and/or use local frames to prevent the text > > being reflowed. > Sorry... Lost. > Originally, click OvPro and my default document opened. Page with > nothing on except a box/frame at the bottom with Page number. > Page gets filled with text, at the bottom a new page is created... > and so on. ? Yes - I think that is your problem. You have a 'standard' master page with autoflow set (in the master page the master frame is linked back to itself). When you insert a page, OPro does indeed insert the page... but ... because the text is auto flowing, OPro then reflows the document - what was on the new page three flows back in to the blank page two and now page three is empty. Try going in to edit master page and remove the autolink (select the link tool, select the link - it turns red rather than green - and press Delete - it should disappear). OPro will no longer produce new pages automatically, but you can now insert pages as you need to, either at the end or in the middle. The text will not now flow automatically from page to page. The alternative is to use local frames on each page to put your text in. You will then find that inserting pages in the middle of the document will work as you expect - the local frames will all move on one page and a new blank page (without a local frame) will be created. If you do need to have text autoflowing over a particular page to the next you can link the local frames on those two pages to give local text flow. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve - the simplest of all is just to insert page breaks as you need them, that will push the following text on. However, if you also have local frames then they will not move, but an insert page will push them on. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 19:13:41 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocj9q-0Bu000-05-E6D.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:13:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocj9q-0Bu000-05-E6D; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:09:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocj9q-0Bu000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:09:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocj9n-0007XJ-4K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:09:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7671BD1C801; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:09:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jz66s2EtdqrI; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C266D1C60C; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45C4AD1C6D8 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uovAPT6FrJMV for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B147D1C60C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ocj9V-0005zK-lr for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:08:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:07:20 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 46 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3RPW1JdMqj34xE1r0sUA:9 a=4AaWzM4m3LR9AEfmhfUA:7 a=ALFZLK8UeRhhtb979DPueaGmrYkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=mmZzpeIqNfUeYuFo:21 a=WegtQLo8QjLb1YJO:21 In message <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >? >Dave Would it help if I said everything was working as it should... If you've got a document with text flowing through it, then if you insert a page into the middle of the document, the text will flow back through the new page (because new pages will be created with the frames the text flows though on). Now if you could opt to insert a blank page, with no text flow frames on, then things would work as you desire. The work around as you have found is to stick a new page code in the text, forcing one page worth not to be filled with text. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 19:28:41 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OcjFZ-4UD000-01-E0U.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:28:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OcjFZ-4UD000-01-E0U; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OcjFZ-4UD000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OcjFV-0007dD-Gi for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:15:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7361AD1CAE6; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2b8yqgzLH3Gf; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33C1ED1C557; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E2E1D1C5A8 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tu+-7G17Mch6 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4384D1C557 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:14:43 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,253,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="205777506" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2010 19:14:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475D25A001 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:14:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:14:42 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 47 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=A4IBB5fHuGeI5nkRB-MA:9 a=KfUHQeY3C4I1iRc19NkA:7 a=_tUIxCuq-1OLUm3ZzYzF3dxBO7wA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=ybYhMWV_EMgE55c0:21 a=qJEWruVNiki95zFR:21 On 24 Jul, Dave Symes wrote in message <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk>: > In article <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, > Chris Johnson wrote: > > > Do you have auto flowing text between pages (you are using master pages > > that are linked to autoflow text)? If you do, then the text will flow > > back into the new page and the last page will be now empty (and would be > > deleted if auto page delete was set). You need to unlink the master > > pages and/or use local frames to prevent the text being reflowed. > > Sorry... Lost. > > Originally, click OvPro and my default document opened. Page with nothing > on except a box/frame at the bottom with Page number. > > Page gets filled with text, at the bottom a new page is created... and so > on. ? You type text into the page's main frame, then when the page fills a new page is added automatically to follow it? If so, you have the pages linked to auto-flow text, and yes, you will find that "Insert" and "Delete" don't do quite what you would expect (although it is logical once you fathom out what is going on). Because the frame is auto-linked, when you insert the new page between pages 1 and 2, the link between the frames breaks and then gets re-created page 1 -> new page 2 -> new page 3 (ie. old page 2) -> etc. The text is then reflowed straight through the new page, and it all looks exactly as it did before (except for a spare page at the end, which auto-delete would delete). The only way you can do what you want is to unlink the master frame on the master page (if you look at the master page with the link tool, it will have a link into itself -- delete it), then manually insert all the pages you require and manually link the frames you want to use with the link tool. It's hard to see how the automatic tool could get this correct, in fact. It does what is required to make OP behave like a simple WP package. If you want to start directing the text where you want it, you need to do it manually. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 20:43:44 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OckdB-286Vbs-03-Ccs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:43:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OckdB-286Vbs-03-Ccs; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OckdB-286Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ockd8-0002tP-Fz for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B9B1D1BDD2; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90oPVNzsMk7y; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4EA71D1BCF9; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2166CD1BD65 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wsto3idc4NUp for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C62B6D1BCA3 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.128.250]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OJh0iq004224 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:43:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:37:45 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 48 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Ww7M4EFZnfchwGYRLQUA:9 a=RRoKGFwctS_CHdLmeTYA:7 a=8yc_bI9zqwJY4sRdGvX6Ljx7cpoA:4 In article <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: [Snippy] > Try going in to edit master page and remove the autolink (select the > link tool, select the link - it turns red rather than green - and > press Delete - it should disappear). [Snippy] Been there and done that yesterday, but all the text after page 1 just vanished. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 20:58:44 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OckdV-4HFVbs-06-CcY.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:58:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OckdV-4HFVbs-06-CcY; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OckdV-4HFVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OckdR-0002uq-EP for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:43:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9A35D1BE3A; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0zUeaNaQR0oW; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62B1BD1BD68; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3B6C3D1BCA3 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6vKqWxYrIcQK for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E0F8CD1BCF9 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.128.250]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OJh0is004224 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:43:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:42:59 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Insert Page Message-ID: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 49 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=-MP3KDxsf25wV3NAlyMA:9 a=QaNN9uvrXBLsllC234YA:7 a=n2Q6yMTcSnY7MbKdxXKAzJzkY3oA:4 Thank you all for the sage advice, however, tomorrow I shall book myself into the local Loony bin for some treatment. It seems sticking my finger on the return key for a while is the only viable solution. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 21:13:48 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OcksR-44V000-07-CNc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:13:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OcksR-44V000-07-CNc; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:59:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OcksR-44V000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:59:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OcksN-0004SV-1x for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:59:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3BE46D1BF7B; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:59:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kF34i3SUdXqw; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 16818D1BE26; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E48EDD1BE2C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zKIAv6lEXvYV for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8ADADD1BE26 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:56 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,255,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="213099291" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2010 20:58:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D987A25A001 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:58:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:58:57 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 50 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gkEmCmsyjk_v24ifMWoA:9 a=Nq0llyE6zWOw5AWy0J0A:7 a=yIqLXZZgFNEmbGO8nayr9S8c_D4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=VVQUXbm1A8DlEZV8:21 a=iM_LkLkHpfdVsY-Q:21 On 24 Jul, Dave Symes wrote in message <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk>: > In article <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, > Chris Johnson wrote: > [Snippy] > > Try going in to edit master page and remove the autolink (select the > > link tool, select the link - it turns red rather than green - and press > > Delete - it should disappear). > > [Snippy] > > Been there and done that yesterday, but all the text after page 1 just > vanished. That's right: with no link on from the frame, where does the text go? Back in the document, you'll have to manually link the frame on page 1 to the frame on page 3 (or wherever it is you want to it to go next), and so on, using the Link tool. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 21:28:45 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OclCc-0ckGPo-06-C3R.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:28:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OclCc-0ckGPo-06-C3R; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:20:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OclCc-0ckGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:20:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OclCY-0004bn-O0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:20:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD2A8D1CC6A; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:20:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rEclZTzXV1I9; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B77BD1BE26; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 684D3D1CBB4 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fcLnmp6GE1jD for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19D86D1BE26 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.128.250]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OKJZp9005649 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:19:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:19:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513c02a5c7dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 51 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=owxqsz6ziHnv65xIqBsA:9 a=-s6Uq1d7OL9MS42zG3wA:7 a=8qf9R-ilx4kwpq1U35PuK03nEpEA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=vCf0QwlQqimjYAfh:21 a=9FVdcJfN_5Nuknxc:21 In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 24 Jul, Dave Symes wrote in message > <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk>: > > In article <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > > wrote: [Snippy] > > > Try going in to edit master page and remove the autolink (select the > > > link tool, select the link - it turns red rather than green - and > > > press Delete - it should disappear). > > > > [Snippy] > > > > Been there and done that yesterday, but all the text after page 1 just > > vanished. > That's right: with no link on from the frame, where does the text go? > Back in the document, you'll have to manually link the frame on page 1 to > the frame on page 3 (or wherever it is you want to it to go next), and so > on, using the Link tool. Madness lies that way, I'm just going to press the return key for a while. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 21:28:45 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OclH7-08Sknw-07-Byw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:28:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OclH7-08Sknw-07-Byw; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:24:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OclH7-08Sknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:24:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OclH3-0005Ol-OW for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:24:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6E5E9D1CC90; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NcYUsyfgBodC; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66DD9D1BF5A; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4351AD1CC4C for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CRPaV9q7v4sh for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9D68D1BF5A for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OclGl-0004bL-c6 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:24:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:22:54 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 52 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=7unmWJEBwmdzOwZGLioA:7 a=lvi2pnbEvqbrHMtDNsZ2MSY3JmoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LdU2GpZflvcf004B:21 a=8HqezVIxNcBxpMry:21 Hi, There's another solution, you want page 2 to be blank - go to page 2, draw a text frame the size of the page. You should now find page 2 blank to do what you want, and text flowing from page 1 to page 3. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 21:58:46 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oclex-4ZlVbs-02-Bb6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:58:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oclex-4ZlVbs-02-Bb6; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oclex-4ZlVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocleu-0001DV-7k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:49:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F37EED1CC4C; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QnSPlFiaw5Z9; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 95AA7D1BCD2; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70357D1CB5F for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k6eYOHZHYD+s for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A946D1BCD2 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.128.250]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6OKmren006785 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:48:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:48:51 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 53 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XR8uGMioQrN2pH9De0AA:9 a=Jh-OqUWwNJMHL-dKlvAA:7 a=HAGJ10gpacxEsQALrZn0F3sb2UwA:4 a=WvZ_vU2SaNvLhvZG:21 a=e63RTuh_gtUHv_6I:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > There's another solution, you want page 2 to be blank - go to page 2, > draw a text frame the size of the page. > You should now find page 2 blank to do what you want, and text flowing > from page 1 to page 3. Thanks for the thought, But wouldn't do what I want. Lets keep this simple... Doc was larger, but for testing it's down to just three pages. I now have about a pages worth of additional data that I need to add (Copy/Paste from another source) between pages 1 and 2. The top of this new data is directly connected to the bottom of existing page 1 data, and the bottom of this new data is directly connected to the top of the old page 2 data, and as the document is still in construction, I might need to add/edit page 1, so the text must continue to flow 1,2,3,4 and so on. So as previously noted, it's back to the bog WP job of finger on the Return key for a while. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 21:58:46 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oclm5-49sVbs-03-BTy.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:58:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oclm5-49sVbs-03-BTy; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:56:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oclm5-49sVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:56:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oclm0-00006z-FB for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:56:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 40BB2D1CDB9; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IeGZjh6u7Cuc; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C81ED1BE1E; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3649D1C6E5 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nMO7Tw2tI4Hf for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5218AD1BE1E for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100724205617.MNLB3266.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:56:17 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100724205617.TNCF1586.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:56:17 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:55:45 +0100 Message-ID: <06f6053c51.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4QByPj+6Iq2k/6L54d+eVKTdgQxdscpRskJJReCfdXo= c=1 sm=0 a=HMUWiF50hmMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=JkuR39UAFMrUC_GC-HYA:9 a=Qfup35xJ7LVC-pEkYxkA:7 a=mVyDFBxCrR2O69S2Qv33vEc_KR0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=eYgdZO3Gz1cTulut:21 a=a8YewbsXwC489LU4:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 54 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JkuR39UAFMrUC_GC-HYA:9 a=TFtB4CxlMB_s41e89h0A:7 a=BueIJ11fMn6F9lxTA5LJobHjx6MA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rJPcCi-bALWrKZQw:21 a=4WgOb3mP9zGpf0yG:21 In message David Pilling wrote: Now I have already said this one. Hurray! Alan > Hi, > There's another solution, you want page 2 to be blank - go to page 2, > draw a text frame the size of the page. > You should now find page 2 blank to do what you want, and text flowing > from page 1 to page 3. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 22:28:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocm6Q-0akknw-05-B9d.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:28:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocm6Q-0akknw-05-B9d; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocm6Q-0akknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocm6O-0000c3-1G for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD27FD1CD74; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71H3LkFwDm4R; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55BD3D1CD68; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B330D1CD46 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xl5bWAf1nDEv for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E32E0D1CD63 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newble.demon.co.uk ([80.176.249.168] helo=iyonix.iyonix) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ocm65-00023Q-m2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Newble To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:17:28 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513c07f2b8peter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 55 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sdp01sO7ysdxc1RHGpEA:9 a=kR1_Qb6-UifHBOG5gHAA:7 a=EdIXWEE63LH__Yb8XR-cdTwvP4EA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Lfo3QcD-AfXd2s9e:21 a=FtijfwXBcylLwaKg:21 In article <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I now have about a pages worth of additional data that I need to add > (Copy/Paste from another source) between pages 1 and 2. > The top of this new data is directly connected to the bottom of existing > page 1 data, and the bottom of this new data is directly connected to the > top of the old page 2 data, and as the document is still in construction, > I might need to add/edit page 1, so the text must continue to flow 1,2,3,4 > and so on. > So as previously noted, it's back to the bog WP job of finger on the > Return key for a while. That's like holding your finger on the space bar to make subsequent text start on the next line! All you need is ctrl-P (shortcut for Misc > Insert > New page). In the same way that return/enter forces subsequent text onto the next line, this forces text into the next frame in the linked chain (thus 'New page' is something of a misnomer). Thus replace your multiple carriage returns between pages 1 & 2 (which would need to be changed very time the length of page 1 changes by one line or more) with a ctrl-P. Then add another ctrl-P to force the text currently at the top of page 2 to page 3. Then move the cursor back to the top of page 2 and paste your additional text. What's the problem? -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 22:28:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocm6i-0biGPo-02-B9L.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:28:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocm6i-0biGPo-02-B9L; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:18:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocm6i-0biGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:18:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocm6e-0000Az-Rf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:18:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 327FFD1CDB3; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:18:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kwFqff9iHxB2; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2C81ED1CD99; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04C65D1CDA5 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5JEliVs5ZDnh for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B845D1CD99 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ocm6M-0001Iw-cC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:17:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:16:08 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 56 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ccVazs69XXZAICidUzcA:9 a=iv5PQ6dZm4NYtMYynkUA:7 a=K0bj6kV2MSRSC-euP5R5dL1ARV4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=8r7dyejMywO7SIWP:21 a=pag2b__Yl397wTPy:21 In message <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >I now have about a pages worth of additional data that I need to add >(Copy/Paste from another source) between pages 1 and 2. >The top of this new data is directly connected to the bottom of existing >page 1 data, and the bottom of this new data is directly connected to the >top of the old page 2 data, and as the document is still in construction, >I might need to add/edit page 1, so the text must continue to flow 1,2,3,4 >and so on. If you want your data to flow, then it has to be embedded in the text flow. If you want a new page in this situation, use the insert in text -> new page code. That seems like it does exactly what you want - the problem is that the thing called "insert page" does something different. Sometimes if you have stuff in frames but need to add more stuff in the middle of it, it is better to embed the frames in a text flow, rather than stick them in absolute positions on pages. The capability to have more than one text flow through a document can be useful. For example you can have one flow for pictures and another by the side of it for pictures. Alan - forgive me for stealing your idea. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 24 22:28:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocm8W-3v4Vbs-08-B7X.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:28:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocm8W-3v4Vbs-08-B7X; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocm8W-3v4Vbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ocm8R-0006dB-JW for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1E689D1CD68; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6CDbhCVjC05R; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D00FBD1BB14; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC5AFD1BDFC for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IQ77yz4w2EB2 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.spellings.net (server1.spellings.net [87.117.197.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6DE0BD1BB14 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [94.169.180.47] (helo=Shuttle) by server1.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocm82-0005Ct-E1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: <0B40061AB84B4119B06584E1FA03E09D@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> <513bec1d7fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bedfa8fdave@triffid.co.uk> <513bf5f4bcchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <513bfed1acdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c055440dave@triffid.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:19:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1Ocm82-0005Ct-E1 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 57 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JOqIkL0tFkTxNdjAUSQA:9 a=GIv5qodu-xsfXap7gfIA:7 a=lvfuzybFE06h78Mm9nMuB97QQmwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Dave Symes wrote: > Lets keep this simple... Doc was larger, but for testing it's down to just > three pages. > > I now have about a pages worth of additional data that I need to add > (Copy/Paste from another source) between pages 1 and 2. > The top of this new data is directly connected to the bottom of existing > page 1 data, and the bottom of this new data is directly connected to the > top of the old page 2 data, and as the document is still in construction, > I might need to add/edit page 1, so the text must continue to flow 1,2,3,4 > and so on. In that case, why not just paste the new text into the existing text at the top of page 2 and let the document's autoflow carry what was on page 2 over to page 3? -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 11:23:53 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ocmlb-1jFGPo-02-AUS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:23:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ocmlb-1jFGPo-02-AUS; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:00:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ocmlb-1jFGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:00:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OcmlZ-000270-U3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:00:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1AE4BD1CDC7; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id et9S+aTfRaHW; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B5F1D1CDA0; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1A1CD1CDC6 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GxcvVvci6R4E for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7D162D1CDA0 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:00:03 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHAMf+SkzUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACTF4xJcb8DhTYE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2010 23:00:03 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OcmlG-0001SB-To for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:00:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:59:27 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 58 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=CKpd07OHSjnALKLGpvsA:9 a=2ZTmTXV2WpH3V7bCnVsA:7 a=bNFEo6CHWSF_rZ-CpSoNYkxpuSsA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=nxu7zDDe-cmLG16n:21 a=bknuzHyyo8-kn6Gc:21 In article <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > It seems sticking my finger on the return key for a while is the > only viable solution. Will the keypad Enter not take you to the next page? -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 16:24:03 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Od31V-2VU000-01-BHa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:24:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Od31V-2VU000-01-BHa; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:21:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Od31V-2VU000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:21:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Od31O-00015N-Eq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 23257D1D0A9; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4+w4JvzdDiMJ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5CFBD1CE15; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC02ED1CE0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DXzgNOzGOUvq for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80D23D1CE15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:03 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,257,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="205878367" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2010 16:21:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F5A25A001 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:21:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:21:04 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 59 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=pFVdRpEPlW8kfKzwSrsA:9 a=PQTj4HmB8-f-Cip9wx0A:7 a=MOBVib2WAbLf0ug7zKSeapw2PeMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=UaMQFO3jFwDm5uXY:21 a=Z6m3n7KTjHlEO3Ad:21 On 24 Jul, Chris Johnson wrote in message <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>: > In article <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > > It seems sticking my finger on the return key for a while is the only > > viable solution. > > Will the keypad Enter not take you to the next page? It does in Easi/TechWriter. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 16:39:03 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Od35z-2eh000-01-BD6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:39:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Od35z-2eh000-01-BD6; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:26:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Od35z-2eh000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:26:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Od35q-00059H-3i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:26:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1452CD1D076; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6effp3t3hDya; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C868D1CD5C; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C49B5D1CE0C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWY3eN5iftKS for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B43E3D1CD5C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,257,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="205878824" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2010 16:25:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644DF25A001 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:25:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:25:56 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] OPW under Wine Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 60 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UJ6IuJ-n404A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=iX0MVSXEzO0T9R9QfUIA:9 a=Yiqkma8a1dOKPK2pfPoA:7 a=-oYzqY_XIBisA0Qm_HxyFQO7I4EA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 I think this has come up here before (in that Google finds questions but no answers), but I'm curious to know if anyone has made any progress since 2007/8. Under Wine on Linux, Ovation Pro for Windows seems to work OK and is fairly usable -- except for one thing. In some situations (generally involving the opening of windows with scrolling panes, such as the Style Editor or the Preferences dialogue), an error comes up "Access denied (GetScrollInfo)(5)". Does anyone know what causes this, or found a way around it? -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 16:39:03 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Od3Ex-26Lknw-08-B48.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:39:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Od3Ex-26Lknw-08-B48; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:35:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Od3Ex-26Lknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:35:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Od3Ew-0001lw-1f for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:35:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38DEED1D11E; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kyYl7wuxKDwD; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49BFAD1CE71; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1AE97D1CFEF for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id btwe+WWhVMWY for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB289D1CE71 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-196-112.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.196.112]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6PFZEhO020747 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:35:15 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page To: davidpilling@freelists.org Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 61 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=-r802q0swX16znsUxrsA:9 a=9lngYLJvcEJGdYw0uWoA:7 a=OQT9ecUmsVRVxRAuvchIfIE2YOAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=0YosjJwAKUqD5LFD:21 a=U79lECcS8HSWHjOY:21 On 25 Jul 2010 Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 24 Jul, Chris Johnson wrote in message > <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>: >> In article <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk>, >> Dave Symes wrote: >> >>> It seems sticking my finger on the return key for a while is the only >>> viable solution. >> >> Will the keypad Enter not take you to the next page? > It does in Easi/TechWriter. And in RISC OS OPro! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \/ __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 17:09:04 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Od3dY-2hqGPo-05-AfX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:09:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Od3dY-2hqGPo-05-AfX; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:01:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Od3dY-2hqGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:01:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Od3dT-0003Xf-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:01:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07EFBD1C8DB; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:01:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3xysZiZZcbyV; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07D69D1C7C8; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6D54D1C8A5 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s7JG1qnRhu0y for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56234D1C7C8 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wyb42 with SMTP id 42so1681551wyb.10 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.5 with SMTP id y5mr6089533wbt.204.1280073637422; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.156.140 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [82.28.40.81] In-Reply-To: References: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page From: BURDETT ARNOLD To: davidpilling@freelists.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636833bd471e599048c385e62 X-archive-position: 62 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: awburdett@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4VeWMUV4krMA:10 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cuUpwEreHLiPgeh-FUwA:9 a=w3a9SFf5JGe7z9ucMgwA:7 a=yvVudL5inkJO_VknlytA8E3AK2sA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=NeCmQJDYgjQGT5gV:21 a=DeezC2pGqhyDdkxj:21 a=SEOTMLKUH3yeGtNy8vEA:9 a=QWsxwPZM_1xoMhZm6qcA:7 a=pIX2nRW64wBJenaMngf9aP8Ez4QA:4 --001636833bd471e599048c385e62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why not simply do ? Arnold Burdett On 25 July 2010 16:34, Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 25 Jul 2010 Steve Fryatt wrote: > > > On 24 Jul, Chris Johnson wrote in message > > <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>: > > >> In article <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > >> Dave Symes wrote: > >> > >>> It seems sticking my finger on the return key for a while is the only > >>> viable solution. > >> > >> Will the keypad Enter not take you to the next page? > > > It does in Easi/TechWriter. > > And in RISC OS OPro! > > With best wishes, > > Peter. > > -- > Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 > Anne \/ __ __ \ England. > and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk > family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > --001636833bd471e599048c385e62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Why not simply do <CTRL><ENTER>?
=A0
Arnold Burdett
On 25 July 2010 16:34, Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Jul 2010 =A0Steve Fryatt &= lt;lists@stevefryatt.org.uk= > wrote:

> On 24 Jul, Chris Johnson wrote in message
> =A0 =A0 <513c0bcafachris@chrisj= ohnson.plus.com>:

>> In article <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk>,
>> =A0 =A0Dave Symes <dave@t= riffid.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems sticking m= y finger on the return key for a while is the only
>>> viable s= olution.
>>
>> Will the keypad Enter not take you to the next page?
> It does in Easi/TechWriter.

And in RISC OS OPro!

W= ith best wishes,

Peter.

--
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--001636833bd471e599048c385e62-- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jul 25 18:24:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Od4hu-3b4Vbs-06-9bB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:24:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Od4hu-3b4Vbs-06-9bB; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:09:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Od4hu-3b4Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:09:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Od4ht-0007NI-4m for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:09:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A448DD1CCE9; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5FCgmkHwm3aq; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F450D1BCA8; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 336F0D1CC82 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYsv02XkqKPh for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D15C2D1BCA8 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.173.203]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6PH9GQD024399 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:09:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:00:20 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513c743e19dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <513bff4c6cdave@triffid.co.uk> <513c0bcafachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 63 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7iFwj1cvTTI3PVee2s8A:9 a=bpTMVQ-7rwimU3lvBZMA:7 a=IzHKJhioxXRD953Dza23eD8EbkIA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 In article , BURDETT ARNOLD wrote: > Why not simply do ? Probably because it doesn't do anything. Whereas Ctrl P does. -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 26 11:40:28 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OdHMU-2KMVbs-01-Dzd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:40:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OdHMU-2KMVbs-01-Dzd; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:40:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OdHMU-2KMVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:40:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OdHMR-0003EY-FA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:40:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 424ACD1CD9D; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l20WKF5CPTRi; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49BFAD1BD18; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15F87D1C7C3 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ix84I+SOBNvD for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADDE3D1BD18 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMGANvKTEzUnwpB/2dsb2JhbACTGY04vn+FNgQ Received: from mailc01.plus.net (HELO pih-smtp-proxy01.plus.net) ([212.159.10.65]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 07:40:08 +0100 Received: from 84.204.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com ([91.125.204.84] helo=iyonix.cjjohnson.care4free.net) by pih-smtp-proxy01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdHM8-0006EW-Dv for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:40:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Indexing in Ovation Pro To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Cyril Johnson X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.32 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:41:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.12 (MsgServe/3.25) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 64 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cjjohnson@care4free.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oVi7O7KajVoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=D_GLH8R7aEHLeUoLIysA:9 a=dNM1ZOAR8IH5a4o6CmEA:7 a=TG7RdLQiuKeJmPWEWPEniK8yoU0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Greetings! I have used OPro(2.77 at present) without problems on the Iyonix for a number of years but until now I have never needed to construct an index for any document. Now I need an index but cannot find any mention of index construction in the printed manual or the digital one. Nor does there seem to be an Applet to do it. Finding it hard to believe that such an effective and sophisticated piece of software lacks an indexing option, I think that I must have overlooked it somewhere. Can anyone help? Best wishes, CJJ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 26 11:40:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OdJRU-3Gpknw-03-Bud.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:40:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OdJRU-3Gpknw-03-Bud; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:53:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OdJRU-3Gpknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:53:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OdJRS-00020r-2i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:53:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98CCDD1CC3C; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3voSMqrT6AdO; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC755D1CBE1; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 881DAD1CC3C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vpbt47cy5+iU for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 31E8FD1CBE1 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:53:27 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMGAMvpTEzUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACTGY04vkCFNgQ Received: from outmx06.plus.net (HELO outmx04.plus.net) ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 09:53:27 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OdJR9-0003QH-2L for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:53:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:53:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing in Ovation Pro Message-ID: <513ccb782dchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 65 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGkC67dk-n8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=PEzmjgfIAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=I4CoAImwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BIRjBNHKRDJBza1S3OIA:9 a=2dJ9PZKMo1HCAAQaydcA:7 a=H8S9jI8-ijY31T5jj61jhPMWWdMA:4 a=USW4DNc0mxEA:10 a=NWjI-xrumzcA:10 a=_Q_7AFqfPdkA:10 In article , Cyril Johnson wrote: > Finding it hard to believe that such an effective and sophisticated > piece of software lacks an indexing option, I think that I must have > overlooked it somewhere. IdxPro & Manual at http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/ovationpro/applets.html#idxpro or http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/applets.html#idxpro is probably the best option. There is also Index on the same page. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jul 26 11:40:36 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OdKSq-0of000-01-AtH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:40:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OdKSq-0of000-01-AtH; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:59:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OdKSq-0of000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:59:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OdKSp-00045X-3H for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:59:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 31B82D1CEC4; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:59:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7+XMBiqi8b72; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C025D1CC80; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:58:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1348DD1CEC4 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:58:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ncnxcMxmLfoW for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA60DD1CC80 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:58:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 290700229/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/opal-ip-space/78.145.1.175/None/richtm@uwclub.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 78.145.1.175 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: richtm@uwclub.net X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoHALv5TExOkQGv/2dsb2JhbACTGYxHcb55DYUpBIhkgkw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,261,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="290700229" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from unknown (HELO riscube) ([78.145.1.175]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 10:58:54 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 9.0.851 [271.1.1/3029]); Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Travers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page Message-ID: <513cd19882richtm@uwclub.net> In-Reply-To: <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <513bb0d18ddave@triffid.co.uk> <48657.212.183.140.36.1279969587.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 X-No-Archive:yes Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 66 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: richtm@uwclub.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HMAR1hixrt0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=sG_fqCoiAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_aGsh_7H1-ogMcgjQewA:9 a=kNR0JYYmD2DSI7CKEnIA:7 a=dASaCBe216RMf8kXOYivfGU3g5UA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=A7VkY_w2LbQA:10 a=VXYwLHNp2qGblV_F:21 a=8olXXP6grt8vrqQF:21 In article <513bea26c4dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I've now checked as you note above Colin and it was set as you suggest > (not something I ever set) I've now Set "Auto page delete" OFF and it does > indeed insert a new page, but not between page 1 and 2 (Insert 1 pages > after page 1) but at the end of the damn document. > And no, the caret is not at the end of the document when I issue the > instruction. > Grrrr! Yes, of course it does. Insert a page in the middle of a document and the text will flow onto that page, the rest of the document will repaginate, and the last page will be left blank. You will need to add a page break at the top of the page if you want the text to flow past it. R -- Richard Travers richtm@uwclub.net Truro, Cornwall 01872 271125 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jul 29 11:44:21 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OeNH1-1wOknw-08-EHE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:44:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OeNH1-1wOknw-08-EHE; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:11:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OeNH1-1wOknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:11:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OeNGo-0001xh-FJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:11:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AAF68D1D4D8; 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Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E868BD1D4E7 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:10:44 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArQFAGLGUEzUnwpD/2dsb2JhbACTNHiMTcADhTgE Received: from mailc07.plus.net (HELO pih-smtp-proxy03.plus.net) ([212.159.10.67]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2010 08:10:43 +0100 Received: from 84.204.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com ([91.125.204.84] helo=iyonix.cjjohnson.care4free.net) by pih-smtp-proxy03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OeNGN-00046I-Dh for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:10:43 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: davidpilling Digest V5 #67 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Cyril Johnson X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.32 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:12:34 +0100 Message-ID: <6fc64d3e51.cjjohnson@cjjohnson.care4free.net> References: <20100727050546.8BAB8D1CB1D@turing.freelists.org> In-Reply-To: <20100727050546.8BAB8D1CB1D@turing.freelists.org> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.12 (MsgServe/3.25) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 67 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cjjohnson@care4free.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q1KFDM5o78kA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PEzmjgfIAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=I4CoAImwAAAA:8 a=dJoAdIgTk-o5Et5MsQgA:9 a=KLuWyj8ZucUoPyeXwVcA:7 a=OeLP6JcYkBbT_qnfSIge_oHz4SEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=USW4DNc0mxEA:10 a=NWjI-xrumzcA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=_Q_7AFqfPdkA:10 In message <20100727050546.8BAB8D1CB1D@turing.freelists.org> FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote: > davidpilling Digest Mon, 26 Jul 2010 Volume: 05 Issue: 067 > > In This Issue: > [softwarelist] Indexing in Ovation Pro > [softwarelist] Re: Indexing in Ovation Pro > [softwarelist] Re: Insert Page > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [softwarelist] Indexing in Ovation Pro > From: Cyril Johnson > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:41:49 +0100 [snip] [snip] > > From: Chris Johnson > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:53:05 +0100 > Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing in Ovation Pro > > In article , > Cyril Johnson wrote: >> Finding it hard to believe that such an effective and sophisticated >> piece of software lacks an indexing option, I think that I must have >> overlooked it somewhere. > > IdxPro & Manual at > > http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/ovationpro/applets.html#idxpro > > or > > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/applets.html#idxpro > > is probably the best option. > > There is also Index on the same page. > Greetings! Many thanks for the information. Have downloaded IDXPro and the manual. Best wishes, CJJ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jul 29 17:14:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OeVip-1NBGPo-01-ELw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:14:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OeVip-1NBGPo-01-ELw; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:12:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OeVip-1NBGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:12:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OeVio-00005Q-G4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:12:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62831D1CEFE; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FPTXxdUNbEpE; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7838ED1CE5C; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3C0E6D1CE4D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JVrK8yJ9b90E for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail11.bluewin.ch (mail11.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F920D1CE04 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:12:07 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[85.1.111.64] Epoch[1280419925] Received: from [85.1.111.64] ([85.1.111.64:11600] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail11.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 25/24-14994-558A15C4; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:12:05 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro and Borders To: davidpilling@freelists.org Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:11:51 +0200 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100729-0, 07/29/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 68 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jrVGnZczvOcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=brLYT9O9UIH9ozwnVhsA:9 a=UzLqhXKKTPGQUzK66c0A:7 a=1qlC9ke5wU_h4DHrW6Cv7i1ZlEEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 To all Users of Ovation Pro, RiscOS and Windoze version At present I am looking into the possibility to create additional Borders for Ovation Pro. To avoid that these new borders clash with borders you have possibly created yourself I ask you to send me the information on the additional "Line definitions" (in the form "Line 0 0xFFFFFFF 0x1400 0x0") you have defined. I do not need info on the border definitions you possibly created. The original Ovation Pro program has Line 1 to Line 6 already defined. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jul 30 12:11:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OenIN-1BYknw-08-DpQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:11:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OenIN-1BYknw-08-DpQ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:58:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OenIN-1BYknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:58:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OenIK-00042s-9o for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:58:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C534D1D9FF; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id brUoLXdQ7bMH; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21210D1D978; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2B88D1D99D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JQO6gUh0moyE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B9E3D1D978 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OenI1-0003oU-jd for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:58:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:57:03 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro and Borders References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 69 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0kCbxfbADzAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=qLfbq8y2WNDCoNdnXMgA:7 a=NHrmZ-yTRa7ZNRhHZwaIpDK05KEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cMAQLU2lP3cVVd_m:21 a=-7Ow8gDfA3SchJSp:21 Hi, In message , Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch writes >At present I am looking into the possibility to create additional >Borders for Ovation Pro. To avoid that these new borders clash with >borders you have possibly created yourself I ask you to send me the >information on the additional "Line definitions" (in the form "Line 0 To put the question another way, has anyone ever edited the !Borders file? We're thinking of providing some new line definitions and don't want to overwrite any definitions users have added. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jul 30 12:26:27 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Oenfx-0LSVbs-02-DRq.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:26:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Oenfx-0LSVbs-02-DRq; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:22:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Oenfx-0LSVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:22:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oenfu-0007js-HJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:22:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB3D6D1DA2C; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6j+UuxbVAzE4; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D2542D1D983; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6DE5D1D9DB for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gvx736VDWfng for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AA46D1D983 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:22:33 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYGALdSUkxUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACTP4xYcb8NhTkE Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2010 12:22:33 +0100 Received: from bapfish.plus.com ([84.92.151.71] helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oenfc-0003pQ-Vc for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:22:33 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro and Borders To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:21:49 +0100 Message-ID: <556ee83e51.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 70 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0kCbxfbADzAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GzctoidC5X9lLIByhoMA:9 a=-4cUO1LkxDR1NVD4JkQA:7 a=EKohTN6LO6JOcUVdravmYeGKKKcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Z8D9iYjkYVh2Iirx:21 a=fuAcoAQRrZpnZFNx:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message , Jhr JMAH van > Vredenburch writes >>At present I am looking into the possibility to create additional >>Borders for Ovation Pro. To avoid that these new borders clash with >>borders you have possibly created yourself I ask you to send me the >>information on the additional "Line definitions" (in the form "Line 0 > To put the question another way, has anyone ever edited the !Borders > file? > We're thinking of providing some new line definitions and don't want to > overwrite any definitions users have added. I have never edited the !OvnResDir.Borders.!Border file, but I have added Draw files to the same directory. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 31 19:46:59 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OerxD-3eO000-06-9Aa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:46:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OerxD-3eO000-06-9Aa; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:56:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OerxD-3eO000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:56:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Oerx8-0004FN-7y for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:56:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 29E66D1C401; 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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.16]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id C91FAD1C0CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75165 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2010 15:56:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=S6q4JuOYOQBTNCK1WeDaPn9Tv1Ve5wRZABTPOP24gbT0FzG0w7iQowCVWJRgY90EcyrNDAWMEHayyVtmBZhF7d21063P1q5R+XC7btwnDic+kfzNZE9qSCNz4/ehsmzjsdHMsfOO2dqlDUSjPz2CO6EZ+DmajUTnyL+jldqSrFc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1280505394; bh=h52cC51r0e1SmpD51OcR2qjgbHRX4eL/mnDmLYukym4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=wxWB3r5J/Hhw5e1Gt8G5LBv3Q1AMDl8gUSNwVxafGHMECEDfQZGKCOGjsJd9DtTSQDKvLU23qBhYQXFYlnBTNh3/+LQ3yiZFJW1ovBqqBpIacjNnt/2WX6PL84+hlq6RvfyxiXyKzJdKogS6QR1tuhwi88ZBF5APel5OrwOAF34= Received: from MartinPC (martin.cawte@86.176.163.144 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 15:56:34 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: uWE9ccqswBAQ9qHeWe39zW1iz5Pi7kuboPkOoDyPbt19GR.8CQm6Ag-- X-YMail-OSG: MFOvFSAVM1kd5zR72V6VITT7w8w2WzoKI2yGDWpdZ1jNuXL wqmpDwG9.xhMF1CC9ytt68SMemuSQvIhm3roqbP.mdu8mDka1oSqhzHikltT f9TJQKgP8bRHNtktdy_vokyIRjYz5Qsw.iGbhaA0pJcvDHa2r3.MWL_HShNx nzJK8PgZ.StnnMbbt_wrCqQV8uw5vAaz7Aw9uHxys1MwywotBzDIXVHAWR1O krJNrSGYbhtKXDddWkafgKH_iNX9QZdYs_rzXaI9fAWihAElxGans0_eoAbf tsg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Martin Cawte" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro and Borders Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:56:14 +0100 Message-ID: <001801cb2fff$bd88dba0$389a92e0$@cawte@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acsv1iH+brHziaV7TsKFV0jgJhEMwQAKJ+Bw Content-Language: en-gb X-archive-position: 71 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.cawte@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0kCbxfbADzAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=41gn5uw3RokA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=y0uMIQVTaYQ_361Jxi0A:9 a=AUDR8tss87eNd__A_NoA:7 a=tQ4XxcgffKvSH2x2RFM9noit7KAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=Ps9LxJchmj4jXrf8:21 a=KTbBx29QNu-k8bJR:21 I have added the following to the !Border.txt file: Border 3s_Double 0___0 Border 1_Offset 0____ Border 2_Offset 0__________ I have not changed any line definitions. Martin Cawte -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of David Pilling Sent: 30 July 2010 11:57 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro and Borders Hi, In message , Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch writes >At present I am looking into the possibility to create additional >Borders for Ovation Pro. To avoid that these new borders clash with >borders you have possibly created yourself I ask you to send me the >information on the additional "Line definitions" (in the form "Line 0 To put the question another way, has anyone ever edited the !Borders file? We're thinking of providing some new line definitions and don't want to overwrite any definitions users have added. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 31 19:47:02 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OetAB-3I9knw-03-GU8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:47:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OetAB-3I9knw-03-GU8; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OetAB-3I9knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OetA3-00068l-KL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EC5ED1D3E7; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AFBc2NVV5x58; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13ECBD1CDD1; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D493FD1D0B6 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8kEZpSOzeksz for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.240]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B2EDD1CDD1 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:14:01 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgGAL+kUkxcHvCX/2dsb2JhbACTQoUCh1ZxwUeFOQSLSg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,288,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="299626390" Received: from unknown (HELO iMac.local) ([92.30.240.151]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2010 18:14:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4C530858.8040302@red-squirrel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:14:00 +0100 From: Roger Foden Organization: The Hot Desk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro and Borders References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020001050506050901060409" X-archive-position: 72 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: roger@red-squirrel.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0kCbxfbADzAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=BOjdAfDWg6y_XkDSHroA:9 a=jGEmlgIZjTjaQnhWUBcA:7 a=d38Q1DuUXhnWSgQZZXKRrs7qWPAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jMDYi1qnEayARisetA0A:9 a=jorVQ_8fmQ7D-mjtIX4A:7 a=X8BkIJsyw9WPgLdnYYXJYdKR4SEA:4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020001050506050901060409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30/07/2010 11:57, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > In message , Jhr JMAH van > Vredenburch writes >> At present I am looking into the possibility to create additional >> Borders for Ovation Pro. To avoid that these new borders clash with >> borders you have possibly created yourself I ask you to send me the >> information on the additional "Line definitions" (in the form "Line 0 > > > To put the question another way, has anyone ever edited the !Borders file? > > We're thinking of providing some new line definitions and don't want to > overwrite any definitions users have added. > Yes, I added some line border definitions which anyone is welcome to use. Unfortunately I can't now remember which are mine and which were David's originals, so here are all of them. Attached is my total !Borders file. (My apologies if VRPC, MacPop, the Mac and Thunderbird have altered the filetype.) Regards Roger -- Roger Foden --------------020001050506050901060409 Content-Type: text/plain; x-mac-type="0"; x-mac-creator="0"; name="!Borders" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="!Borders" //->$.Q.!Ovation.Resources.Borders.Border Line 0 0xFFFFFFFF 0x1400 0x0 Line 1 0xEEEEEEEE 0x1400 0x0 Line 2 0xEEEEEEEE 0x0A00 0x0 Line 3 0xCCCCCCCC 0x1400 0x0 Line 4 0xCCCCCCCC 0x0A00 0x0 Line 5 0xF6F6F6F6 0x0A00 0x0 Line 6 0xFFFFFFFF 0x1400 0x1 Line 7 0xAAAAAAAA 0x0A00 0x0 Line 8 0xAAAAAAAA 0x0500 0x0 Border 1_Plain 0 Border 2_Double1 0_0 Border 3_Double2 0_00 Border 4_Double3 00_0 Border 5_Triple1 0_0_0 Border 6_Dotted1 1 Border 7_Double4 000_000 Border 8_Quad1 0_0_00_00 Border Triple2 0_00_0 Border Triple3 00_0_00 Border Dotted2 2 Border Dotted3 3 Border Dotted4 4 Border Dotted7 7 Border Dotted8 8 Border DashDot5 5 Border Round 6 Border Round2 666_0 --------------020001050506050901060409-- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling