From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 3 18:02:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1O8ytI-0W2Vbs-04-8Yl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 18:02:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1O8ytI-0W2Vbs-04-8Yl; Mon, 03 May 2010 16:53:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1O8ytI-0W2Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 03 May 2010 16:53:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1O8ytE-000727-A0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 03 May 2010 16:53:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F085D05C24; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:53:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1272905582; bh=JrmYZ0KYR2Y8CYvVI7deOCV4PwuCMYVuSnAf3tij X6k=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=JvoxTwtNA6vK517fBxuGrUibUXKnb Kr4r1N0Hi4TTKyam/E7hfwkl/JOmoRHzlKga5iHuSjb0NBgMnGrzafLz9xTeEC2aSg9 QOsroxXk4xsoQOWJIhrqFyDrgML184KxN5UoG35OxAnJo4cvATllxNpRYqJILQV0qIk CkVqo8VY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bfwg6v+9Qfk3; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9513ACDBCBE; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:52:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1272905581; bh=JrmYZ0KYR2Y8CYvVI7deOCV4PwuCMYVuSnAf3tij X6k=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=SfNdWvH+x7L78kkl88XGENu/HEda2 N+/GVQQyCFjniG6e0Y3+U5o2EoikM1qctBnNOQsygQOoHC0UFZKoeH/y5MZb+nHAk5K xLgh11ZTT5APFHAVJclqv1wT6KLK/9TehRc6BcOZNOfigodRD3ZvlI58svswtzRew+V BaXKf5jA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 03 May 2010 12:52:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 675E5D01CD9 for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:52:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ySz9ODGfcrJT for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8FE6CDBCBE for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:52:47 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugFAA+c3ktUXebz/2dsb2JhbACRAIwicb0ohRIE Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2010 17:52:46 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1O8ysw-0007Tk-5t for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 17:52:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 17:52:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: b33ba0ea9416a376b18073ec08bad2e7 X-archive-position: 2429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VTazNZmOMTsA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=I4CoAImwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yUu9Esx6022oq9uABEkA:9 a=NkQD_E2GyBCPyvu1bLoA:7 a=KFPAdLuk45dfZ0cQKRb-5CvOGCEA:4 a=W3x1qQKkAMEA:10 a=hwx3SFasqacA:10 For those of you who make use of David Pilling's SyncDiscs to make backups, there is now a new version (version 1.20). This new version has been produced with the full agreement and encouragement from David. The most significant change is that SyncDiscs can now be configured to carry out a synchronisation or compare in full multitasking mode. This means that, unlike earlier versions, the machine on which it is running can still be used while a compare or synchronisation process is completing in the background. This was something that had been requested on occasions in the past. For those not aware of SyncDiscs, SyncDiscs is an application to make the contents of two discs or directories the same. For example, it may be used for keeping general backups on the same or different media or machines, to keep an exact copy of a hard disc on a removable disc, or for synchronising a portable computers disc with that on a main machine. The new version can be obtained from: http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/software/sync.html or http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/software/sync.html I should emphasise that any comments about, or problems with, this new version should be addressed to myself and *not* to David. There will be an announcement in comp.sys.acorn.announce in due course, but subscribers to this list are getting advance notice and the chance to try it out first. I hope you find this new version useful. -- Chris... 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 May 2010 19:55:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:52:12 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2430 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=I4CoAImwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gOqD4OdDDOMXkSyVJ20A:9 a=Hir0Ri_CdyUSQF57_YcA:7 a=yNYhioM2jDMMLySBYG2b-mXXQY0A:4 a=W3x1qQKkAMEA:10 a=hwx3SFasqacA:10 a=bv1y-l8m0Jh_FsmN:21 a=k62t2GB0sxCMODeK:21 In article <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > For those of you who make use of David Pilling's SyncDiscs to > make backups, there is now a new version (version 1.20). This > new version has been produced with the full agreement and > encouragement from David. > The most significant change is that SyncDiscs can now be > configured to carry out a synchronisation or compare in full > multitasking mode. ... [Snip] > The new version can be obtained from: > http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/software/sync.html or > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/software/sync.html > I hope you find this new version useful. I certainly shall. Thanks very much for your work. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 3 21:02:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1O91gS-1iz000-06-EI7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 21:02:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1O91gS-1iz000-06-EI7; Mon, 03 May 2010 19:52:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1O91gS-1iz000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 03 May 2010 19:52:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1O91gM-0002l4-D2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 03 May 2010 19:52:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9809BD072E0; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1272916316; bh=9TgvlTUlA+ZE+Z+At5VV8zB/JGpmu+nJr1DF8Ad8 FoM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=asw4/JjJm8oBupK4jnOvOWVKiTNE9FJDIFIGfxPF8MIDm2GDtt V3tNhsQqzHXfWSRFE+xC2HnhhsgyQrfJnvezkBzctMu2WWzXdh4Fl35vrQXGa3qK0kj TN/WCmZvuj7ZWqL8WSw0Kd9vAARgrDa8OIqWMgop1g5O7/J0tI0+8w= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H42tMYhimR4g; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6DC2DD07929; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1272916315; bh=9TgvlTUlA+ZE+Z+At5VV8zB/JGpmu+nJr1DF8Ad8 FoM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=UBtD4PSPufz8dwI2jpkv/EdA+93uRvgSFir0hBGmFo2te0e9MN hYH6YMHEC5Ty/FPo1wXJB5ydEBIjb5lbQW7h+6niM3YxkH7vGHIz5cbR6AOir2pEWWX ofMBuTrBSSsk3vACi5iwbXTJXaY1fpGdiB5RLgrSGSUZlqPSA2WKnM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 03 May 2010 15:51:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 406DCD07891 for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rg-CMq438Sa0 for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CE5FD0760F for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1O91fY-00038j-f7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 19:51:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 20:49:43 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2431 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=q9kfVnwKsbgZuR1MWh0A:7 a=bFeSBzDXOyJxAvyiXatPYeN60SUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J5VlYLBCnzz7dQgJ:21 a=-Dj8c8YLX3QvdFcH:21 In message <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >I should emphasise that any comments about, or problems with, this >new version should be addressed to myself and *not* to David. Feel free to discuss the new version here, I'm interested to hear what you think about. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Mon, 3 May 2010 17:26:00 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugFAILc3kvUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACRB4wicb1OhRIE Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2010 22:25:52 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1O939D-0004Wp-Pb for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 22:25:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 22:25:26 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5111ce2175chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 983aeae9773f01bf2305b74ff1814e82 X-archive-position: 2432 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OK-AEA1KN61ZidTc1c4A:9 a=X21YTCliLza9utDHvjcA:7 a=FFugyKO_AbqQbVVvprJaFxyR5p8A:4 a=mWlBhY1SmBfS78gt:21 a=jYg6PSfQ7qMlchQe:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes > >I should emphasise that any comments about, or problems with, this > >new version should be addressed to myself and *not* to David. > Feel free to discuss the new version here, I'm interested to hear > what you think about. Sorry - yes. I didn't mean to imply you couldn't raise matters here, only not to start sending David moans because I have broken something 8o) -- Chris... 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I never thought it would be that good, so I never did it. Thank you, Chris for all the work you've put into the new version. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 May 2010 14:17:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 14:12:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2434 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=I4CoAImwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cXpEM9zeeQjcB45U00kA:9 a=1xYnO2Sm6JZxBZVwaZoA:7 a=WzrjFL_ZnlrsSBJiO6GWj90hjhIA:4 a=W3x1qQKkAMEA:10 a=hwx3SFasqacA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=eVVTu9el0upZB34V:21 a=GoyrVIxvW6c_Gb9Z:21 In article <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris > Johnson wrote: > > For those of you who make use of David Pilling's SyncDiscs > > to make backups, there is now a new version (version 1.20). > > This new version has been produced with the full agreement > > and encouragement from David. > > The most significant change is that SyncDiscs can now be > > configured to carry out a synchronisation or compare in full > > multitasking mode. ... > [Snip] > > The new version can be obtained from: > > http://www.chrisjohnson.plus.com/software/sync.html or > > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/software/sync.html > > I hope you find this new version useful. > I certainly shall. Thanks very much for your work. As a long-time user of SynDiscs I find your new version a big improvement. The multi-tasking does not (subjectively) slow the operation down very much, which I expected it to do. If I have the time, I do a 'Compare' after the backup and I wonder whether you have considered doing this at the same time as the backup? It seems to me there might be a time saving there. Another trivial request is a bleep when the backup has finished. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 5 16:13:16 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1O9gFO-3Am000-04-GLl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 16:13:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1O9gFO-3Am000-04-GLl; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:10:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1O9gFO-3Am000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:10:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1O9gFH-0002ao-PR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:10:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 077D1D09739; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1273072241; bh=/2AuN4iysWOIn60zHsQwtKtpf3oxCerN9KLWUECf gB4=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=rwmifxdJtGSOQ2d8sv4DCmrkNWYtw0V/9gv9oxqlfLimEzs1ip nrlAwUDV0i7xiTUkTN1xjiYDvX/P7Hdt+kbJ0a5EGRv6juoVgUWSsrVw4HP+eWaa74N YTDmdPz08DVxSnybg+fGvzu9s8uKLwg2eUt4OqTMHrmRcx0S29RLII= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yBOUTs5mtFq1; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99AF5D07144; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1273072239; bh=/2AuN4iysWOIn60zHsQwtKtpf3oxCerN9KLWUECf gB4=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=GiNOeTLZ7OyrZvp164zCY5gFkT2xD8mhc2ohTkvIg5qgGfvYg9 0d7kjMh9mT+kT8zhpd/O/gGxrabCsZr3NIP0t1Ox7hofKTVLiX5NiRkfzHI6YbMFXGs 97uuGiXDAfwTg96q53T3VUnrhZAFjSB/lh1XPwghqT+TZFXDzgVS4Y= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 05 May 2010 11:10:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C49FD072C0 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OqlU6059gdWg for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDEABD07144 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1O9gEy-0000AA-hk for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:10:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:08:55 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2435 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=vM2Ukx3a4HFJPbb7SBcA:7 a=Kbjph_IeMLPOL3NTWbV-Lk84jLwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=cQ8a3Mte00NXMT7d:21 a=cV8vCUtCC-5__vZQ:21 In message <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll writes >operation down very much, which I expected it to do. If I have >the time, I do a 'Compare' after the backup and I wonder whether >you have considered doing this at the same time as the backup? It >seems to me there might be a time saving there. Doesn't a compare *after* synchronisation just show source and destination the same - compare before would presumably show what the log file does. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 May 2010 20:13:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 19:50:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2436 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=shsGiCmWXJ2a3jPkj2kA:9 a=rUBg9frmUjtMiD0Eu38A:7 a=2LLlyI5pQQ7JodU6KRueLSBDd_sA:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=uOe1cvj731l1z_-q:21 a=vKf1wak7obbcBCJz:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll > writes > >operation down very much, which I expected it to do. If I > >have the time, I do a 'Compare' after the backup and I wonder > >whether you have considered doing this at the same time as > >the backup? It seems to me there might be a time saving there. > Doesn't a compare *after* synchronisation just show source and > destination the same ... Yes it does, plus such things as 'File xxx newer on ' when they are not. There is a pair of entries for each directory entered in the 2 main main fields. I thought that perhaps the way the synchronisation is done could somehow accumulate the comparison data. > ... compare before would presumably show what the log file > does. I'm not sure about that. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 5 20:43:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1O9kTH-4JbVbs-03-C7s.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 20:43:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1O9kTH-4JbVbs-03-C7s; Wed, 05 May 2010 19:41:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1O9kTH-4JbVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 05 May 2010 19:41:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1O9kTC-0001UQ-RO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 05 May 2010 19:41:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4D7AD096A1; 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Wed, 5 May 2010 15:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 29CFDD09646 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 15:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1O9kSv-0003P3-Wf for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 19:41:05 +0000 Message-ID: <2MB36qCSmc4LFwQt@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:40:02 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2437 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=Zze6oaAw0gJAELMX78MA:7 a=khwuU0MoMxQxo7zc_PfcdnRJ5g4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=xxMw7kJ3XhAbi1vV:21 a=Iu7c5ItP7Ohs1G1O:21 In message <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll writes >> Doesn't a compare *after* synchronisation just show source and >> destination the same ... >Yes it does, plus such things as 'File xxx newer on >' when they are not. Good point, I'd not thought about that sort of thing - of course synchronisation does not always make source and destination identical. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Thu, 6 May 2010 05:52:58 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AokFAB8u4ktUXeby/2dsb2JhbACROIwwcbxShRME Received: from relay01.plus.net ([84.93.230.242]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 06 May 2010 10:52:55 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1O9xlH-0003ro-HH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 10:52:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 10:52:31 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <51131a3320chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: a397bf73ff2db79f31500138208f75ba X-archive-position: 2438 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EU_rk_Pj8eWnBYPjy-8A:9 a=7DIMQEK_Mt8BLUuXK1wA:7 a=BWM7JSqKyN611N-jmmcugWESozgA:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > Yes it does, plus such things as 'File xxx newer on > ' when they are not. Do you get this regularly? Assuming the files involved are not sensitive, maybe you could send me an example of a pair of files from primary and secondary, and I will try to trace exactly what is being returned from the OS calls to make SyncDiscs think they are different when compared. Either zip the two files separately, or in to two different directories in the same zip. Once you have taken a copy of the two recalcitrant files, what happens when you do a sync with 'Overwrite newer files on secondary' ticked. Does this put things to right? > There is a pair of entries for each directory entered in the 2 > main main fields. I thought that perhaps the way the > synchronisation is done could somehow accumulate the comparison > data. When syncing, the 'comparison' is done before each object is copied/moved/do nothing/whatever. That forms the basis of the operations the sync process does. To do a running compare after each file is operated on would complicate matters a bit. Certainly, under multitasking, SyncDiscs doesn't know what the Filer_Action has actually resulted in, other than that the operation has 'completed'. Whether, eg, a copy was actually performed, or the FA decided no action was required is unknown. Perhaps an 'automatic' compare after a synchronisation is the simplest way. -- Chris... 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 May 2010 14:14:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 14:12:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <51132c8699briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <51131a3320chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51131a3320chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2439 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=j1kOx8C9HfIcTcahp8MA:9 a=KCgHtRUgjH7Noc9Va-oA:7 a=Lb6Czm7k9VjtS7T6NYgsMB68WFgA:4 In article <51131a3320chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > Do you get this regularly? Assuming the files involved are not > sensitive, maybe you could send me an example of a pair of > files from primary and secondary, and I will try to trace > exactly what is being returned from the OS calls to make > SyncDiscs think they are different when compared. Either zip > the two files separately, or in to two different directories > in the same zip. OK, I will do that the next time it happens. > Once you have taken a copy of the two recalcitrant files, what > happens when you do a sync with 'Overwrite newer files on > secondary' ticked. Does this put things to right? I don't know. I usually investigate 'manually' straight away, decide which file to keep and copy appropriately to the other disc. > When syncing, the 'comparison' is done before each object is > copied/moved/do nothing/whatever. ... Perhaps an 'automatic' > compare after a synchronisation is the simplest way. That last suggestion would be acceptable to me, but I would like it to be configurable. What do other users think? Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 8 12:32:16 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OAi3w-40uVbs-03-CCp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 8 May 2010 12:32:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OAi3w-40uVbs-03-CCp; Sat, 08 May 2010 11:19:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OAi3w-40uVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 08 May 2010 11:19:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OAi3v-0002bE-Rs for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 08 May 2010 11:19:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46E44D0974D; 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Sat, 8 May 2010 07:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86DEDD08CA7 for ; Sat, 8 May 2010 07:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OAi3e-0002S6-e4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 08 May 2010 11:18:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 12:17:40 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2440 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rFtV_IHcIYpVVn3e98sA:9 a=1kuSHLDj_XLbtusqEIEA:7 a=WALtu0huvR1L726JA72LoNOeMIIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=wGoqVrbZXIcShSbs:21 a=HvIwpwwsAoQmvLvL:21 In message <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll writes >Yes it does, plus such things as 'File xxx newer on >' when they are not. There is a pair of entries >for each directory entered in the 2 main main fields. I thought >that perhaps the way the synchronisation is done could somehow >accumulate the comparison data. Could you tell us the file systems in use for primary and secondary? SD does of course have an option to not copy a file from primary to secondary if the secondary is newer - I wonder what setting you have for that option. This matters because if you have newer files set to be over-written then compare should not see the secondary file as newer. Do you remember how big the time difference is on these files - what I'm getting at is that some file systems have different time resolutions. I maintain that you can't trust the older MS file systems to within an hour - I recall they mess up day light saving in some way. When I wrote SD back in 1997, it seemed a relatively new idea, at any rate I had nothing to compare it with. By now file synchronisation software has its own wikipedia page and the possibilities are endless. No doubt comparing the actual file data before and after the copy come in the legion of possible features. I was hired by Acorn in 1997 to write CSFS - client server file system, for the NC - network computer. The idea was there was a file system in the NC and periodically it was synchronised to a server. Anyway not a huge leap of imagination to SD. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 May 2010 18:08:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 18:03:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2441 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FrcivXKTq5cxJZGnU3MA:9 a=tmHmNMVtJsKw3Otfr2MA:7 a=h1BH87H_DPikhr_CCeYj1N4xvI4A:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=N4-MBaYezD11lR8_:21 a=ar4aqZYRhgem9hl9:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll > writes > >Yes it does, plus such things as 'File xxx newer on > >' when they are not. There is a pair of entries > >for each directory entered in the 2 main main fields. I > >thought that perhaps the way the synchronisation is done > >could somehow accumulate the comparison data. > Could you tell us the file systems in use for primary and > secondary? Both are IDEFS and identical discs. I never use the Mirror unless I need to retrieve a file (commonly after over-writing a template file in Impression because of an injudicious 'save'). On one occasion I needed to boot from it. > SD does of course have an option to not copy a file from > primary to secondary if the secondary is newer - I wonder > what setting you have for that option. I use neither of the 2 copying options nor overwrite. > This matters because if you have newer files set to be > over-written then compare should not see the secondary file > as newer. Exactly. If I get a discrepancy after a 'compare' I prefer to investigate why rather than just overwrite automatically. > Do you remember how big the time difference is on these files > - what I'm getting at is that some file systems have > different time resolutions. I maintain that you can't trust > the older MS file systems to within an hour - I recall they > mess up day light saving in some way. I don't think that would be relevant when primary and secondary are both on the same filing system. > When I wrote SD back in 1997, it seemed a relatively new idea, > at any rate I had nothing to compare it with. By now file > synchronisation software has its own wikipedia page and the > possibilities are endless. No doubt comparing the actual file > data before and after the copy come in the legion of possible > features. > I was hired by Acorn in 1997 to write CSFS - client server > file system, for the NC - network computer. The idea was > there was a file system in the NC and periodically it was > synchronised to a server. Anyway not a huge leap of > imagination to SD. Well I for one am grateful that you developed SD from that work. I find it easy to use and to set up, and it does everything I need for a simple though not very secure backup regime. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat May 8 20:47:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OApwY-4DK000-03-Cqj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 8 May 2010 20:47:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OApwY-4DK000-03-Cqj; Sat, 08 May 2010 19:44:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OApwY-4DK000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 08 May 2010 19:44:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OApwV-0003Lb-GS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 08 May 2010 19:44:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7375D09922; 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Sat, 8 May 2010 15:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65853D08AE8 for ; Sat, 8 May 2010 15:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OApwE-0001so-Wx for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 08 May 2010 19:43:50 +0000 Message-ID: <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 20:42:34 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2442 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=CiwA5TTaKaF5xZm9jPEA:7 a=Q-QZgHYJg_lMjKfeQTi7RMorKFcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=4rQMQNli7pxv17sw:21 a=Mi7xfyrl-ZAvQb7W:21 Hi, In message <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll writes It would be interesting to know the difference in times between the files on primary and secondary - or maybe the absolute values. One area of contention is, should copy, copy everything including the time stamp. Clearly the copy is made at a later time than the original. Speaking as someone who has written file systems, I know there is room to make errors in the Acorn protocol - in particular it is possible to set file attributes whilst a file is open, and the file system can then err by overwriting these values when the file is closed. Perhaps there should be an option for SD to set the file attributes after the copy 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Sat, 8 May 2010 18:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OAsZi-0002oA-gV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 08 May 2010 22:32:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:32:25 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2444 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LZ8NdV-yd_uuXs-FJjYA:9 a=6dWbcCyXs7nbviHtcSwA:7 a=hGl0bBULy2J8DGcnhU3c_jrs6jUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CALsq7begk9JkTF4:21 a=dmzTNlJAxh3We50K:21 In message <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >In article <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk>, > David Pilling wrote: >> Perhaps there should be an option for SD to set the file attributes >> after the copy 8-) > >Are we talking here of ensuring the attributes of the copy to be >those of the primary, or setting the attributes of the copy to the >time of copy, rather than those of the primary? The former, you make a copy, then set the attributes of the copy to be the same as those of the original. What I suspect may be happening is the latter effect, the copy is ending up with a time stamp of the current time at which the copy is being made. This is speculation. Presumably IDEFS users know what goes on, with which version. If it was a standard effect, Brian would presumably see it very often. I also wondered if it depended on how long the copy took - big files, or centi-second roll over between stages of the copy process. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Sat, 8 May 2010 18:56:11 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgFAHKI5UtUXebz/2dsb2JhbACRXYw7cbxUhRUE Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 08 May 2010 23:56:11 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OAswM-0003Yu-N7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 08 May 2010 23:56:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 23:55:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: c7c53772b528a198bbadeb1405a72734 X-archive-position: 2445 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UhTJyMjoSKOT8JkCU7UA:9 a=VUbUwZIWZMIXkLneYUgA:7 a=vpNAmHtGCJ05eZPdUIKlji-xQTkA:4 a=EZg-Vm-UUkiKY7W9:21 a=1HjDCjD-7lHUYdQp:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > If it was a standard effect, Brian would presumably see > it very often. Yes. I haven't seen it on ADFS, and I have done a lot of testing. It will certainly be useful to have an example when it next arises, in terms of file size, type, and whether an archive of some sort. There is the problem with the NAS device I have (NSLU2), where RISC OS sees the time of copy on the files on the secondary. -- Chris... 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Oh that's a good idea. Does SD treat archives as files or look at their contents... >There is the problem with the NAS device I have (NSLU2), where RISC >OS sees the time of copy on the files on the secondary. Often file systems have three time stamps, create, modify and access. Potential for seeing the wrong one, or synchronising all three - and of course RISC OS only knows about one time stamp. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Potential for seeing the wrong one, or synchronising all > three - and of course RISC OS only knows about one time stamp. Yes. I have included a paragraph about this in the html help file included with SyncDiscs. -- Chris... 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 09 May 2010 15:18:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 12:43:39 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2448 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BVXYHDGp3k18r0L-R5cA:9 a=PVf2Dcr9cNAd5Ep4NRgA:7 a=ebTNgVwbfW5Pn5TAeJX-3iOF0zEA:4 a=vgQuH2owsZ0H2uNY:21 a=bI0sTRm-jsZ9lgak:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris > Johnson writes > >It will certainly be useful to have an example when it next > >arises, in terms of file size, type, and whether an archive > >of some sort. > Oh that's a good idea. Does SD treat archives as files or look > at their contents... An interesting discussion! I will be doing a compare every day from now on to try to feed back something useful. I am fairly sure the time-discrepancy files are not archives. > >There is the problem with the NAS device I have (NSLU2), > >where RISC OS sees the time of copy on the files on the > >secondary. > Often file systems have three time stamps, create, modify and > access. Potential for seeing the wrong one, or synchronising > all three - and of course RISC OS only knows about one time > stamp. There is also the anomaly (IMHO) in the RISC OS filer that copies of a directory are given the datestamp of the copy time rather than retain their original. I don't see how this would affect the current question though. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 9 16:12:29 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OB82x-2pZknw-05-BnM.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 16:12:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OB82x-2pZknw-05-BnM; Sun, 09 May 2010 15:03:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OB82x-2pZknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 09 May 2010 15:03:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OB82t-0004lD-D2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 09 May 2010 15:03:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA28AD09859; 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I don't see how this would affect > the current question though. No, it shouldn't do. The only time SyncDiscs deals directly with directories is if the directory does not exist on one of the paths, so it will be copied/deleted as a whole. Otherwise, it is the file attributes of the files within that are compared, not the directory time stamps. I assume the 'anomaly' is due to the filer creating directories before filling them with files. Thus the so-called copied directory/ies actually have the timestamp corresponding to the time of their creation. -- Chris... 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 09 May 2010 18:23:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 18:03:30 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2450 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tz1VumjL5CExIdjNgr8A:9 a=XhRMxT8OLoSeOaJ8BdgA:7 a=UiprjSBumqA6ufsgPeDTxYK2-94A:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=l63LAiML4d1QjZ8C:21 a=RTMjto224YagYoJQ:21 In article <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll > wrote: > > There is also the anomaly (IMHO) in the RISC OS filer that > > copies of a directory are given the datestamp of the copy > > time rather than retain their original. I don't see how > > this would affect the current question though. > No, it shouldn't do. The only time SyncDiscs deals directly > with directories is if the directory does not exist on one of > the paths, so it will be copied/deleted as a whole. Otherwise, > it is the file attributes of the files within that are > compared, not the directory time stamps. > I assume the 'anomaly' is due to the filer creating > directories before filling them with files. Thus the so-called > copied directory/ies actually have the timestamp corresponding > to the time of their creation. Yes, that is a good explanation of what happens. I still would like the newly-created directory to be 'stamped' back to its original date-time. Moving a directory, which copies first then deletes, appears to preserve the datestamp so it can be done. Sub-directories are also mis-stamped but applications are not; if the '!' is removed the application behaves as an ordinary directory, of course. I see the same behaviour with a special Boot directory I have which is named !Boot+: it is not an application, but behaves like one. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 9 18:42:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OBAVw-1L1GPo-05-9KN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 18:42:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OBAVw-1L1GPo-05-9KN; Sun, 09 May 2010 17:42:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OBAVw-1L1GPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 09 May 2010 17:42:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OBAVq-0003RU-QO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 09 May 2010 17:42:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3838CD08388; 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Sun, 9 May 2010 13:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 995ACD07620 for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 13:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OBAVZ-0001WN-YQ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 09 May 2010 17:41:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 18:40:05 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2451 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=D_R5VPnsT8A9DeQaIvAA:7 a=4A1xU_54npFIMybshr1LpAs3vu4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=qnUzd3gVjlSV5a21:21 a=lFL5LhwaVfHFaaEw:21 In message <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll writes >Sub-directories are also mis-stamped but applications are not; if >the '!' is removed the application behaves as an ordinary >directory, of course. !App folders take their timestamp from the !RunImage file inside - if there is one, at least on the desktop. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. 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Sun, 9 May 2010 16:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OBCyS-00050p-du for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 09 May 2010 20:19:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:18:31 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2452 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=oK5bv_fL_yQdNB30JsoA:9 a=dQC6IhhJSqsSjezbXfEA:7 a=_qsK70_aBqakXXjOWCc8lTKKiNAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nMb7vw78PArs7YZo:21 a=vnfSLhpjeDNHrh8k:21 In general because SyncDiscs uses another program to do the file copying, it wants to avoid looking at individual files - the higher up the directory tree the copy command is issued the better - we want to tell the copy program to copy whole folders, that way things go faster. Many ideas for improvements involve breaking this requirement. Checking file attributes after copying or setting them would. Something you see on sync. programs is a function to set the destination attributes to be the same as the source - in other words if you know the files are the same, force the time stamps to be the same. This is done as a separate operation over all files like sync. or compare. Then again perhaps it is safer to set the attributes immediately after a copy. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Sun, 9 May 2010 17:55:24 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlEFAIvM5kvUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACRVow/cbpFhRUE Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 09 May 2010 22:55:24 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OBET5-0003PM-Tj for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 09 May 2010 22:55:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 22:54:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 2447e9f97e402dfcf3ae903570f6e22b X-archive-position: 2453 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=m5jc-wR7zrDmFrktjdMA:9 a=nqAFxoDAvL1Oh57-BZUA:7 a=YTTQdU7xEAvDcZ8hIbMRcu70acoA:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > Yes, that is a good explanation of what happens. I still would > like the newly-created directory to be 'stamped' back to its > original date-time. Moving a directory, which copies first then > deletes, appears to preserve the datestamp so it can be done. This is an interesting point. One of the things I have done in my wisdom to try to speed things up is (where circumstances allow) to do a delete + rename rather than a copy delete. This applies when using a scrap directory and moving/copying files from secondary to the scrap directory, but a consequence is that the associated following copy from primary to secondary will now involve recreation of any secondary directories involved. Perhaps another user setting is waiting in the wings! Chris... -- Chris... 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Mon, 10 May 2010 07:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OBQol-0003Mw-bJ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 10 May 2010 11:06:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:05:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2454 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hmqskAkP0JtoTNqHpNcA:9 a=ha3gDZufdz0yEG_W-kkA:7 a=zrjotnSbK0Be7bBRTn76SxiMAW0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=zPGD30bCch-xhve0:21 a=ed8Jwuo0KbNJsmBO:21 In message <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >In article <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, > Brian Carroll wrote: >> Yes, that is a good explanation of what happens. I still would >> like the newly-created directory to be 'stamped' back to its >> original date-time. Moving a directory, which copies first then >> deletes, appears to preserve the datestamp so it can be done. I would say that RISC OS uses rename to do move, and that is why time stamps are preserved. If so one would expect different results when things are moved between discs to when they're moved around a single disc. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Mon, 10 May 2010 08:09:03 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAP6T50vUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACRWoxEcbtvhRQE Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 10 May 2010 13:09:02 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OBRnB-0000Mg-Us for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 10 May 2010 13:09:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:08:51 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <51153606b4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: c6b559be60b6fe2db0c8745d8a9a0e03 X-archive-position: 2455 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0TGx5mzNhtQi2IBsGusA:9 a=ne1-xI2TB62MsqNr2AAA:7 a=m16RMicZr81JX0S8J7Avh5FgKm0A:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5114e7d0dfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, > Brian Carroll wrote: > > Yes, that is a good explanation of what happens. I still would > > like the newly-created directory to be 'stamped' back to its > > original date-time. Moving a directory, which copies first then > > deletes, appears to preserve the datestamp so it can be done. > This is an interesting point. One of the things I have done in my > wisdom to try to speed things up is (where circumstances allow) to > do a delete + rename rather than a copy delete. This applies when > using a scrap directory and moving/copying files from secondary to > the scrap directory, but a consequence is that the associated > following copy from primary to secondary will now involve > recreation of any secondary directories involved. Perhaps another > user setting is waiting in the wings! The above, while true in principle, is not in practice because of the way SyncDiscs works. It will only be dealing with complete directories when the dir does not yet exist in the secondary. Therefore there is nothing to move in to scrap at this poin. 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:46:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:44:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2456 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=DlNvSFQIAIQ-O1lg64UA:9 a=Vfh3XA4Gjkg4sJedXiAA:7 a=0jCnxC9dF8ks_GkiMR549NRXiY0A:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris > Johnson wrote: [Snip] > > I assume the 'anomaly' is due to the filer creating > > directories before filling them with files. Thus the > > so-called copied directory/ies actually have the timestamp > > corresponding to the time of their creation. > Yes, that is a good explanation of what happens. I still > would like the newly-created directory to be 'stamped' back to > its original date-time. Moving a directory, which copies first > then deletes, appears to preserve the datestamp so it can be > done. Further to the discussion following that point, I have done some more checks, using a NULL:$ filer window that I use sometimes for a quick deletion (Shift-drag (ie move) a file into it). Using it to delete a large directory of images of 100Mb+ it is clear that they are copied into NULL:$ one by one before being deleted one by one from IDEFS::Gromit.$.Tempdir.11May10.Book1, finally the directory itself is deleted. Watching the filer-action window meanwhile shows that a normal 'read' is done on each file but the 'write' to NULL:$ is practically instantaneous, as expected. I don't know whether that helps :-) Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 11 12:12:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OBnMH-1oS000-06-D6c.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 12:12:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OBnMH-1oS000-06-D6c; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:10:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OBnMH-1oS000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:10:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OBnME-0004Ua-9a for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Tue, 11 May 2010 07:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2CAB1D08907 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:10:16 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgFAGPY6EtUXebz/2dsb2JhbACRYoxGcbpWhRAE Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 12:10:02 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OBnLe-0001Wt-Cb for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 12:10:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:09:12 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <5115b4667fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 0e634abe3d4ae285c658222fcb4bbaf6 X-archive-position: 2457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=1tJCx3eoWZwLchh3SQ4A:9 a=23i5Ol_0_vKhTQ-x0M4A:7 a=bo7KMRYoI-kyi-VoOkVu3AULl90A:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > Further to the discussion following that point, I have done some > more checks, using a NULL:$ filer window that I use sometimes for > a quick deletion (Shift-drag (ie move) a file into it). Using it > to delete a large directory of images of 100Mb+ it is clear that > they are copied into NULL:$ one by one before being deleted one > by one from IDEFS::Gromit.$.Tempdir.11May10.Book1, finally the > directory itself is deleted. Watching the filer-action window > meanwhile shows that a normal 'read' is done on each file but the > 'write' to NULL:$ is practically instantaneous, as expected. > I don't know whether that helps :-) Nor do I 8o) I am unclear what you are doing here. Are you doing it manually, or is SyncDiscs involved? As far as SyncDiscs is concerned it will only attempt the 'rename' route if it is doing a move and if it thinks secondary and scrap are on the same device, i.e. it looks at the e.g. IDEFS::Gromit.$ part of the full path and compares the two. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 11 12:42:53 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OBnep-3sn000-02-Co4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 12:42:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OBnep-3sn000-02-Co4; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:29:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OBnep-3sn000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:29:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OBnek-0007Ay-K6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Tue, 11 May 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A60A1D0A39D for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OBneT-0005Vq-XS for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:28:08 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5114c21d49chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114cd2a4cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com> <5115b4667fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5115b4667fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2458 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Rf91gMgccORmn1G2P28A:9 a=GV6-wUUCRcwTzqBI5rIA:7 a=nkv1VqEHmK9t3vBKkEEg_C5v-aQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=AYWFWYM22HGgEl_i:21 a=4a33HsQTEVFOJ9ok:21 In message <5115b4667fchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >In article <5115b22dc3briancarroll@f2s.com>, > Brian Carroll wrote: >> Further to the discussion following that point, I have done some >> more checks, using a NULL:$ filer window that I use sometimes for >I am unclear what you are doing here. Are you doing it manually, or >is SyncDiscs involved? Nothing to do with SyncDiscs, it's just a quick way of deleting stuff, although looking at Brian's analysis it is probably not that quick for big files. I presume you can get apps that sit on the icon bar and delete all files dragged to them. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 19 May 2010 20:30:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:30:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs - a new version (1.20) Message-ID: <511a00f8bcbriancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> References: <5111b51a88chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5111c01a0cbriancarroll@f2s.com> <5112a8b2e4briancarroll@f2s.com> <5112c79db1briancarroll@f2s.com> <51144950debriancarroll@f2s.com> <+KOVL5Hq6b5LFwpU@pilling.demon.co.uk> <5114637990chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51146994bfchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2459 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggjWS2hLUcAA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=ka-x4lBJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4lio8qCr5ebI7HUF3YQA:9 a=F_Zhdcepyab34kZichwA:7 a=vOFw91psvqdS5X5NPWAZDUQV_6gA:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 In article <5114afe1d3briancarroll@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: [Snip] > An interesting discussion! I will be doing a compare every > day from now on to try to feed back something useful. I am > fairly sure the time-discrepancy files are not archives. [Snip] I have done my standard Backup using the new SyncDiscs on my 4 root directories every day since I wrote that (9 May 10), immediately followed by a Compare. There has been no anomaly whatever in the latter. Of course there is always an extra file shown in Boot:Scrap. which is the report file itself. My impression continues to be that Chris's version is a bit faster but that is probably because I am able occasionally to take advantage of the multi-tasking. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling