From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jan 28 18:39:02 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NaZ2I-3Txknw-04-BIj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:39:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NaZ2I-3Txknw-04-BIj; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:24:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NaZ2I-3Txknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:24:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NaZ2F-0001qs-Mx for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:24:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71AE7CCB458; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:24:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXbXycouXdxU; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA9C7CC65D5; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:23:51 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 991BBCCB449 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:23:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DYu1qHwPkZuM for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 596BECC65D5 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [87.112.92.207] (helo=lab.4QD) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1NaZ1x-0004xR-Ao for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:23:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Richard Torrens (lists)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:05:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Arcfax (sorry!) Message-ID: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2257 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hJloMcvCZ2WjOuainc4A:9 a=BPV5gKKV3ryHh0FYz1oA:7 a=g0FRuuJ7g02emthQl7IOEtlyeJ8A:4 Arcfax, on one computer, has suddebly decided to go belly up when loading. "Internal error, no stack for trap handler: Internal error: branch through zero at &0380D090, pc = 00000000: registers at 0006D1E0" That error is repeatable. I've tried replacing Arcfax with a new copy. I've checked with !Connector that the RPC is still talking to the modem. Any ideas? -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jan 28 18:54:02 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NaZKo-0PAVbs-02-B0D.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:54:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NaZKo-0PAVbs-02-B0D; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NaZKo-0PAVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NaZKk-0000gs-Ph for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 959F1CCB547; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UszO+0Q+Ns4Z; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA46FCCB4F0; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AFC45CCB506 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WwIPJxJC227C for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.233]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id 07692CCB540 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62159 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2010 18:42:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:To:From:X-Editor:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:X-Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WEppck9/8fFM0soRdlZWKw+psbcvUr1ij9cU4K7ozkQRpkSp8Aunc73Fs5eWoX+r+encm7/1YS9guh7SmC2OOI3oJ5gP+WKkay3yZROPYKGiREsydYiuD5aPqwbuUs7UOA6EwlrkpRm3qEpy7Z1ph4WO86cQ6GHK7RxTcvDk57Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO iyonix.btinternet.com) (doug.j.webb@86.137.24.99 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2010 18:42:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: bCR6O8iswBA.PN.uVfkoaOGyWa_tBNXYOQd.Vb5ED4NlbhBPCSGN X-YMail-OSG: ytT_PJ0VM1k4jp1_.06AJG4UzK8BSF1Se0MXtdKAsSj4iJyj8a73W7c1NYTl0GY7w_yHd08pmc.ZI8z17W8r8eNB9GVUti.gnMaI5NT41B.5V1pRqk9ctl59.vIiDGuoi2o7rwk8Dx_cshzCzz.UXAWdHJ7oKW_biFzUrr0wCRY4Kj3wc3s4WiM_IK9plzEIyx6.TeZD2VWFEnysI8z.IZv5_dBWzxWlai91ONgSr0qSD3yq8UI0eKQTTeO13ozcDyqlVjV_Cje9zA1u35Xuj9umUYqB X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Arcfax (sorry!) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Doug Webb X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:42:46 GMT Message-ID: <14d3d2e050.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> References: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2258 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: doug.j.webb@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KX15StpPBjsA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Tt461LAMByKcZrLgkFYA:9 a=iEjePrBISixV0__tklIA:7 a=LCJ0mv4QtaqB8fYgOO-bfEG3iuMA:4 a=DzyY0lVHGi-yX_2t:21 a=5XLEq_QjlwGvf3Ve:21 In message <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> "Richard Torrens (lists)" wrote: > Arcfax, on one computer, has suddebly decided to go belly up when loading. > "Internal error, no stack for trap handler: Internal error: branch through > zero at &0380D090, pc = 00000000: registers at 0006D1E0" > That error is repeatable. > I've tried replacing Arcfax with a new copy. I've checked with !Connector > that the RPC is still talking to the modem. > Any ideas? So this mystery computer is what type and has what OS in it? You say on one computer it has started playing up so is it on another and is that identical in every way. Have you changed anything recently on the computer it is playing up on. Did this start after you sent a fax or on it's own accord. Has the ArcFax file in !Scrap directory got corrupted or try deleting and resetting up ArcFax and !Printers from new by deleting choices etc. Doug -- Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.16, the thinking person's alternative operating system to Microsoft Windows. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jan 28 18:54:02 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NaZPs-0mlVbs-02-Av9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:54:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NaZPs-0mlVbs-02-Av9; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:48:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NaZPs-0mlVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:48:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NaZPq-0001KL-Py for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:48:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75F4ACCA115; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bg3Lqm759kk2; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE005CC9663; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F122CCA115 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lmbRf93uGrap for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 606D5CC9663 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NaZPa-0006Wj-XW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:48:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:47:08 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Arcfax (sorry!) References: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2259 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KX15StpPBjsA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GkwEX_GSLhbAfah2bIoA:9 a=iPssKVUW1zcDSCdAnZIA:7 a=xizzYsChu4ZJFcZodu-7xwD8PWkA:4 a=PhoQGj2IsTXP6s5C:21 a=RoYEvle_VCRLvx19:21 In message <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk>, "Richard Torrens (lists)" writes >Arcfax, on one computer, has suddebly decided to go belly up when loading. > > >"Internal error, no stack for trap handler: Internal error: branch through >zero at &0380D090, pc = 00000000: registers at 0006D1E0" You say you've re-installed, however I'd want you to remove the old copy from disc (shift+drag it out of the way) - because if for example ArcFax has messed up its files that record transactions they will remain. Don't copy the new copy over the old one in other words. Second, ISTR that there is a keypress (maybe hold down ALT it's in the docs) on load that stops ArcFax attempting to go on line with the modem. I'd try that. Latest version is something like 1.21, it's on my web site. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jan 29 18:40:45 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NavbS-2FGVbs-03-EJ7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:40:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NavbS-2FGVbs-03-EJ7; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:29:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NavbS-2FGVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:29:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NavbO-0006qJ-Cp for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:29:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F545CCBA59; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ko124Mcv3x8s; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F77DCCBA24; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 575D5CCB870 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qsIBKGj1Hup5 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04BD4CCBA59 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [87.115.89.192] (helo=lab.4QD) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Navb5-0003Mn-0i for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:29:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Richard Torrens (lists)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:11:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Arcfax (sorry!) Message-ID: <50e153c9bfLists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2260 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KX15StpPBjsA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Qv0Ht7TPLc_a9C6lZLUA:9 a=uRVcSBfTTgqCNQmfjyMA:7 a=cXLpxaV-cKBHdsNbrTrQwCA0uHMA:4 a=0HarRSVL6mjFuhHw:21 a=7wgKGb0GqcLOBeBC:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <50e0cf5f3bLists@Torrens.org.uk>, "Richard Torrens (lists)" > writes > >Arcfax, on one computer, has suddebly decided to go belly up when loading. > > > > > >"Internal error, no stack for trap handler: Internal error: branch > >through zero at &0380D090, pc = 00000000: registers at 0006D1E0" > You say you've re-installed, however I'd want you to remove the old copy > from disc (shift+drag it out of the way) - because if for example ArcFax > has messed up its files that record transactions they will remain. > Don't copy the new copy over the old one in other words. > Second, ISTR that there is a keypress (maybe hold down ALT it's in the > docs) on load that stops ArcFax attempting to go on line with the modem. > I'd try that. > Latest version is something like 1.21, it's on my web site. Thanks for the hints. It was a corrupt Config.BatMan file. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 16:19:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NchqW-1la000-07-Esl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:19:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NchqW-1la000-07-Esl; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:12:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NchqW-1la000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:12:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NchqU-00052T-1h for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:12:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 398B5CCECC5; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UvbRSguDr2xF; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6DD72CCEB90; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:12:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45637CCECAC for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0iOAN5WG8e0k for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C2B96CCEB90 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100203161232.SIXW10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:12:32 +0000 Received: from a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk ([81.111.61.254]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100203161232.CZNI22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:12:32 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro frame borders (RISC OS) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Anthony Hilton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:11:31 GMT Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.42) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=zmBGcY8gcHmCsBzzP1EA:9 a=fehlbI-v4gW9vUGZfroA:7 a=lzO2d8XJ0j1faEOXNScSH-Irl_4A:4 a=siTSTS38353ALILJ:21 a=3bzI7YxSdTQYvMQN:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2261 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7o9XT2KlEcsA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zmBGcY8gcHmCsBzzP1EA:9 a=HEht9U7OF7COP6rryvYA:7 a=lzO2d8XJ0j1faEOXNScSH-Irl_4A:4 a=YdkPbE6xULKthrGh:21 a=UIjGWrY8GjR1ufzb:21 RISC OS 4.42 (A9 Home) OPro 2.77 (5 January 2010) OPro 2.77 (17 February 2008) For quite a while I have been troubled by OPro crashing with "branch through zero at &03808134, registers 0013A844" when scrolling through the available borders to assign to a frame. When this happens Ctrl-Break to reset the machine is the only way out. (Alt-Break and attempting to stop OvationPro does not atcually stop Opro.) Because I have to reset the machine I have not been able to get any information from *where ("address is not in any module"). Today I have been able to put some time into defining the conditions which cause the crash. The first borders displayed in the window are those defined in the text file !OvnPro.!OvnResDir.Borders.!Border and the crash occurs when attempting to display the first which does not use a continuous line (any using line definitions 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 from the top of that file). By removing all the border definitions which use any form of broken line I cannot trigger the crash. Put any one back in and the crash returns. If you prefer to see examples I have put the original !Border and a non-crashing version inside http://www.tinshill.f9.co.uk/ant/OproBorders.zip Testing with the same 2 versions of OPro on a RiscPC (RISC OS 4.39 Adjust ROMs) and the crash does not occur. I shall also send this report to Advantage6. Anthony -- Anthony Hilton ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 17:34:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ncj2D-0ptVbs-05-Dh4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:34:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ncj2D-0ptVbs-05-Dh4; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:29:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ncj2D-0ptVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:29:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ncj29-0000mR-S5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:29:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 631ACCCED1A; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p1FWe-uPFa+j; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A2EFFCCE975; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48B13CCE973 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-YvUtv7coD2 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail16.bluewin.ch (mail16.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.63]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4489CCE975 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:28:30 -0500 (EST) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[62.203.85.247] Epoch[1265218105] Received: from [62.203.85.247] ([62.203.85.247:6691] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail16.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id C4/61-04715-932B96B4; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:28:25 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro frame borders (RISC OS) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:28:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100203-0, 02/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2262 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FpkrU2QNfHAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=L1elXYmcoynzC9pL2d4A:9 a=8pTz7DKZP3f04gbDC4IA:7 a=CpLqcD1cgvbI8kS9Nr2jbGVf1roA:4 a=NmaSqt8pdLLyfV8S:21 a=b9TAN0f7tfxtJeym:21 In message Anthony Hilton wrote: > RISC OS 4.42 (A9 Home) > OPro 2.77 (5 January 2010) > OPro 2.77 (17 February 2008) > For quite a while I have been troubled by OPro crashing with "branch > through zero at &03808134, registers 0013A844" when scrolling through > the available borders to assign to a frame. When this happens > Ctrl-Break to reset the machine is the only way out. ............. I tested your BorderOriginal file and all non continuous line frame definitions perform as expected. The same goes for these border defintions with the windoze version of OvPro. [snip the rest] -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 18:04:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NcjYM-4QpVbs-02-DAv.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:04:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NcjYM-4QpVbs-02-DAv; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:02:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NcjYM-4QpVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:02:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NcjYK-0003WY-9Z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:02:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58781CCEC6D; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:02:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WqevMTWj2mKs; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 805EDCCE558; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CF3ACCEC51 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9QTw-ZK6bRMg for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D09C2CCE558 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100203180151.YSBQ10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:01:51 +0000 Received: from a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk ([81.111.61.254]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100203180151.ZTSE21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:01:51 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro frame borders (RISC OS) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Anthony Hilton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:01:47 GMT Message-ID: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.42) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=iinsxll0NLoA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=9U9nJ6qywRNPuuB1RbEA:9 a=gqKEfT0ZeFO2q0QBv08A:7 a=3YMMs-Oc1tph3M9WjdpDPKC_nQwA:4 a=eZ50BUIPBjvZYeZB:21 a=xfynr_4jllbunR4T:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2263 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FpkrU2QNfHAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=9U9nJ6qywRNPuuB1RbEA:9 a=4ehKxBK9dHzpe4eRzxYA:7 a=9MkDR_zWaKcQio8eCM2dzX6Xep8A:4 a=lwxSxHx-99SYt48H:21 a=f5TI8tDhdujVSmsV:21 In message Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > In message > Anthony Hilton wrote: >> RISC OS 4.42 (A9 Home) >> OPro 2.77 (5 January 2010) >> OPro 2.77 (17 February 2008) >> For quite a while I have been troubled by OPro crashing with "branch >> through zero at &03808134, registers 0013A844" when scrolling through >> the available borders to assign to a frame. When this happens >> Ctrl-Break to reset the machine is the only way out. ............. > I tested your BorderOriginal file and all non continuous line frame > definitions perform as expected. The same goes for these border > defintions with the windoze version of OvPro. > [snip the rest] Thank you for taking the interest and time to perform your tests. What machine and which version of RISC OS did you test with? If I read your email headers correctly RISC OS 4.02, so that will be a RiscPC? I have come to the conclusion it is a problem on the A9, but am not sure where or why it is caused. I have also had an email from Matt Edgar at Advantage 6 confirming it is an A9 problem which he thinks has been traced and fixed. Hopefully that means I'll be able to get a patch from him. Anthony -- Anthony Hilton ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 18:19:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ncjee-0M7GPo-02-D4d.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:19:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ncjee-0M7GPo-02-D4d; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:08:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ncjee-0M7GPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:08:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ncjea-0006rV-T7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:08:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 987ADCCEC8F; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cWVlBhlEB8or; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EDDC5CCEC60; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:08:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CAF8ACCEC74 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bnXPmwPfj2Eh for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 477A9CCEC60 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NcjeI-0002Ua-Wg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:08:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:07:09 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro frame borders (RISC OS) References: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2264 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FpkrU2QNfHAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3v8gYCY5RMG5ya0OumEA:9 a=xeBM3EewndcTPYjCGa0A:7 a=_51a_SJElknF98QNf33alWjDo-YA:4 a=CMN_qVXGKsMsJoUO:21 a=e3ElF_IWdSy_bOrk:21 In message <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk>, Anthony Hilton writes >I have also had an email from Matt Edgar at Advantage 6 confirming it >is an A9 problem which he thinks has been traced and fixed. Hopefully >that means I'll be able to get a patch from him. It would be interesting to know what the problem is with the A9 - in the OS, or memory... I'd grabbed the file, but I'll not bother trying it now 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 18:49:14 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NckCm-0Bb000-07-CWV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:49:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NckCm-0Bb000-07-CWV; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:44:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NckCm-0Bb000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:44:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NckCk-0003cn-86 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:44:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6626CCEECF; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mIqjYWh+gpJq; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 40E37CCEECD; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 197C5CCEEC5 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lys-EhEnQIru for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF05CCCEECD for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:40 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAL9SaUvUnw4R/2dsb2JhbADZL4RFBA Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2010 18:43:40 +0000 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NckCR-0005Kb-Qu for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:43:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:43:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro frame borders (RISC OS) Message-ID: <50e3e9df8echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> References: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 7666cc710fba4b4364397efb21116858 X-archive-position: 2265 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FpkrU2QNfHAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uD49c3DzGxJkrHCjSyMA:9 a=Jr5gUPzAfsUogpH2Rf0A:7 a=vQMAG5MHEiy2u1f-FfOFh2l0i-gA:4 a=ZnwUxq4dl528QO5p:21 a=c4CUMroAivbgf8K0:21 In article <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk>, Anthony Hilton wrote: > I have also had an email from Matt Edgar at Advantage 6 confirming > it is an A9 problem which he thinks has been traced and fixed. > Hopefully that means I'll be able to get a patch from him. The problem with the A9 is that these 'fixes' are never circulated to the users in general. Unless you realise it is a problem with the A9, rather than a piece of software, and report it you do not get the fixes. I have never understood the way that Advantage 6 have operated for the A9. My A9 is hardly ever used these days. Chris... -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Feb 3 20:49:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ncm1r-3iJknw-01-AhQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 20:49:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ncm1r-3iJknw-01-AhQ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:40:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ncm1r-3iJknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:40:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ncm1q-0006i7-7Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:40:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B36DCCED93; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CTwW71a0hGGg; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 547FFCCE9BA; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 253C6CCED29 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dmBKx-PRJgDm for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail18.bluewin.ch (mail18.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.64]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B795FCCE9BA for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:40:32 -0500 (EST) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[62.203.85.247] Epoch[1265229631] Received: from [62.203.85.247] ([62.203.85.247:6916] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail18.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 82/64-23457-E3FD96B4; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:40:31 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro frame borders (RISC OS) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100203-0, 02/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2266 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FpkrU2QNfHAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PcIa_dor7H21Byr6pCEA:9 a=WW53R4ccL0AmQgspRdUA:7 a=aaaOqnwecJMwX--Woj3BboiY-dQA:4 a=N_rxop_-VrJ27YU7:21 a=uBSbFt9eEV_-p7FQ:21 In message <5916e6e350.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> Anthony Hilton wrote: [snip intro] >> > Thank you for taking the interest and time to perform your tests. > What machine and which version of RISC OS did you test with? If I read > your email headers correctly RISC OS 4.02, so that will be a RiscPC? Indeed 4.02 via VRPC on a windoze machine. I also did a binary check on your file with my file on the Iyonix (which I know is OK). They are identical. [snip the rest] -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 6 22:01:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ndsee-1IIknw-01-AGl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:01:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ndsee-1IIknw-01-AGl; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:57:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ndsee-1IIknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:57:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ndseb-0004lE-BN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 242B1CCF6AB; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2P1zyE0b7IQ2; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7ED80CCD9C9; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4769ECCF1F1 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TVyc7i0sW5oE for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7F8ACCD9C9 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.46.96]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o16Lv5Vi001685 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:57:06 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:55:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP Win and a PNG Message-ID: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 2267 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=bGUqFV5bW7HievKV13UA:9 a=nugZxCCTWdr14_VCHOEA:7 a=5ewRsA61Dr7KFfV831DvPb3aTTUA:4 Really don't understand... I have a .png graphic file created in a Win PC application, the background is transparent (reason thus for a PNG). Loading that into OvPro for Windows and the transparent background is now Black. Loading it in to any other Win app that'll take it, the transparency remains intact, or it becomes white. (Not what I want, but I guess white is better than Black.) ?? I have no idea. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 6 22:16:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ndsqo-1fPknw-02-A4b.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:16:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ndsqo-1fPknw-02-A4b; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:10:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ndsqo-1fPknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:10:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ndsql-0003Xt-Tv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:10:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7FB74CCF61D; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ey+SkBsSvr1; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8072CCE161; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97B7BCCF3BF for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kDEF7SjL2i4H for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BFB8CCE161 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NdsqU-0007IO-Ws for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:09:42 +0000 Message-ID: <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:08:34 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2268 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=KRduu61rvvbpOFiKaxYA:9 a=WgS8D6xHTj5PVPeH5bcA:7 a=AC-xGzkI5a30deAH_kd-YIntM1sA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=RkWQxM1tFxTu9AcV:21 a=-uU18IptZsnGvm_1:21 In message <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >I have a .png graphic file created in a Win PC application, the background >is transparent (reason thus for a PNG). >Loading that into OvPro for Windows and the transparent background is now >Black. Hmm. I have memories of messing about with PNGs and transparency for the filters on Windows. Really I'd like to see the file or small sample. I can imagine it may depend on the type of transparency. OPW supports (old) RISC OS style masks - clear or solid. Probably some PNGs support alpha channels, graduated transparency. That may offer you a way around the problem - save as a GIF with transparency. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 7 11:30:53 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ne268-3Pz000-05-9Ln.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:30:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ne268-3Pz000-05-9Ln; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:02:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ne268-3Pz000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:02:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ne265-0004IP-7T for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:02:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AFB4BCCF1ED; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mH9aCj4xbi3G; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C02CCCDE9E; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:02:08 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D7FA5CCF197 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CiHo88oRwI2G for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B239CCDE9E for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.91.249]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o17824lw029560 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:02:05 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG Message-ID: <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2269 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TSYkQSRwu-s6IwIQHhEA:9 a=3kwJIYWqEtFn8a0XgP4A:7 a=hBQkF88Kt0BvD47SzOTXP5WgXXcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=u3wTFs0aA1Tk81tl:21 a=_SE8kGdQm0COtx0h:21 In article <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > In message <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >I have a .png graphic file created in a Win PC application, the > >background is transparent (reason thus for a PNG). Loading that into > >OvPro for Windows and the transparent background is now Black. > Hmm. I have memories of messing about with PNGs and transparency for the > filters on Windows. > Really I'd like to see the file or small sample. I can imagine it may > depend on the type of transparency. OPW supports (old) RISC OS style > masks - clear or solid. Probably some PNGs support alpha channels, > graduated transparency. That may offer you a way around the problem - > save as a GIF with transparency. A bit later this AM (Sunday) after family stuff out of the way I'll create a small png in the same Win app and send it to you. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 7 12:00:46 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ne5ev-2HEVbs-03-EJW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:00:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ne5ev-2HEVbs-03-EJW; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ne5ev-2HEVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ne5em-0004qU-CA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3D28BCD0916; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:50:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jeZ0BvaMl2n9; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB13BCC8C2E; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:49:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74A5CCD07E7 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:49:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VnCi8XQx3EfB for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4FA6ECC8C2E for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ne5e0-0000Ug-a1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:49:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:48:11 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=5oJG4RMp50OHoYPsahcA:9 a=UUbz2BIF4CG_IXmE77AA:7 a=UzZuErHviECbpU384R-bMjiYqQcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=qZLHpLXq-9McSVXx:21 a=kEkkLloKnlM9EjxL:21 In message <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >A bit later this AM (Sunday) after family stuff out of the way I'll create >a small png in the same Win app and send it to you. Thanks for that - you are absolutely right, it doesn't work. The PNG filter makes a poor attempt at understanding transparency. It looks like the gif and tiff filters do handle transparency. I'll perhaps fix the PNG filter. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 7 12:30:47 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ne64E-3OiVbs-02-DuD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:30:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ne64E-3OiVbs-02-DuD; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:16:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ne64E-3OiVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:16:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ne648-0004bV-1i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:16:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0F4DCD0B6A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trzlik7w54YG; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 617AFCCEDED; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 31DB7CCEF86 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tCUlXUi4o-NY for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0880CCEDED for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.107.162]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o17CFJB2007039 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:15:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:13:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG Message-ID: <50e5d5916bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2271 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YqzM0tS9D_Y_LoAdB-oA:9 a=KPScuTkb3vtCFO3j-fcA:7 a=wiJoz1xoI0FUI_trwhhl8Zt5660A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=qot9w7sLelyzgMxB:21 a=fl12KfgIqAhF0lJ3:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >A bit later this AM (Sunday) after family stuff out of the way I'll > >create a small png in the same Win app and send it to you. > Thanks for that - you are absolutely right, it doesn't work. The PNG > filter makes a poor attempt at understanding transparency. > It looks like the gif and tiff filters do handle transparency. > I'll perhaps fix the PNG filter. That would be a great boon to me, as aside from using Jpegs for obvious things, I use the PNG for a lot of other files. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 7 13:00:48 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ne6fD-086GPo-04-DJE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:00:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ne6fD-086GPo-04-DJE; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ne6fD-086GPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ne6f8-0002JX-LR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93FE1CD0B56; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csDxvaHPVGp6; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C7DEFCCF4E7; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D4D9CD09DF for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JHaVp12Ypafm for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E138CCF4E7 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:54:28 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALZGbktUXebq/2dsb2JhbADVWIRUBA Received: from relay07.plus.net ([84.93.230.234]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2010 12:54:26 +0000 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ne6eg-0005yO-4m for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG Message-ID: <50e5d945e0chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: ed03c9cfc5f888c73f20537af222b297 X-archive-position: 2272 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=x36YtGmrp-Ueh8q8y9kA:9 a=utieiw4s-keQIdNOSUkA:7 a=us4gMtQlZUwVHoyPUSPJM2YVjFsA:4 a=1VPXlT6F6cfJyDPh:21 a=ssTbYweLMlffq77i:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > I'll perhaps fix the PNG filter. ... and could that be 'fitted' to DPlngScan as well, which suffers from a similar problem 8o) -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 7 14:30:51 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ne80J-0i2000-02-By8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:30:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ne80J-0i2000-02-By8; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:20:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ne80J-0i2000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:20:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ne80F-0000Kf-SL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:20:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DC883CD0A8E; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qsohx+gR6sGW; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77784CD08D2; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1485ACD08CD for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WtpzHbt5mhtX for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CD2BCD0A24 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.183.13]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o17EKP1L012071 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:20:26 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:14:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP Win and a PNG Message-ID: <50e5e09fa1dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e5d945e0chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <50e5870446dave@triffid.co.uk> <0PuHK9GihebLFwJu@pilling.demon.co.uk> <50e5bdd67edave@triffid.co.uk> <50e5d945e0chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2273 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=g8L1NJSdaIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QgCb3QPaiIr2OrHGod4A:9 a=jsnmBJTjQ3h5c-ODzeIA:7 a=rtU03W2C3Xfezry-57OBL_k1kNQA:4 a=l_4t5XBvUQB4Zgnu:21 a=VscGNQV6Jqt8eeHg:21 In article <50e5d945e0chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > I'll perhaps fix the PNG filter. > ... and could that be 'fitted' to DPlngScan as well, which suffers > from a similar problem 8o) Well done that man, 'yuh' beat me to it. While playing with the files I sent David earlier today, I was reminded that DPlngscan doesn't do transparency either, though the same file loaded into Paint 2.70 does. Worth noting... DPlngscan for Windows doesn't do it either. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 12 15:51:21 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nfx0Y-1Ztknw-01-9mb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:51:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nfx0Y-1Ztknw-01-9mb; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:00:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nfx0Y-1Ztknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:00:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nfx0V-0001AT-MP for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:00:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9326CD2A68; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p4hGmHaUrt3w; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B9333CD2115; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EB9FCD27DC for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JcZ+Q1ZettlX for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.12]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5194FCD2115 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-29-113.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.29.113] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfx0D-0005ez-SL for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:00:18 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro: "referencing" existing pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:00:22 GMT Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 2274 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GvXiyUyovE4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6ZB7cnI_yI6ZQpxxkEMA:9 a=oClEczLchDmLvtuXh54A:7 a=VozTZRYE77kgsNQMqnkZZI9UQfMA:4 a=N4soHLP_vt2zzHrW:21 a=Z0CZtV8hH88aSrh9:21 i have a document that has grown to 11 meg; it has become a bit=20 unwieldy. it has lots of pictures: most are not all that large, but=20 they are many. some are in fixed frames; some are in frames that flow=20 with the text. would it make sense to turn them all into "referenced" pictures? are there disadvantages? if it's a good idea, is there a straightforward, mass way of going=20 about it, or do i have to do each picture individually? --=20 Jim Nagel [ www.archivemag.co.uk > Offer ] Archive magazine's "two free trial issues" offer is still in=A0effect, if you haven't seen the magazine lately. 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To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 12 18:53:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ng0cY-21IVbs-05-Eh7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:53:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ng0cY-21IVbs-05-Eh7; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ng0cY-21IVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ng0cU-0007RV-1b for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA4F7CD20E1; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:52:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PzRHdsqtIQ2P; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A711CD1334; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:51:47 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13494CD203A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:51:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wa67vBflZikE for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 39079CD1334 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:51:44 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJoydUvUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACbAXS/eoRYBA Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2010 18:51:29 +0000 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ng0bw-00071y-LR for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:51:28 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: "referencing" existing pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:51:18 GMT Message-ID: <19258de850.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Plusnet-Relay: c59d98835818fe9c1106a20f047182b1 X-archive-position: 2275 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=noMRdAsZ_GcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gYIs67xhTz0J4L15igwA:9 a=XTJ6g-Xz0fqFaDQwhHEA:7 a=O9YyDZho1FZU8r7-xgP3vDE-iMsA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=GMsmv11uDauWJvFb:21 a=oDUuAaKkD9trad-L:21 In message Jim Nagel wrote: > i have a document that has grown to 11 meg; it has become a bit > unwieldy. it has lots of pictures: most are not all that large, but > they are many. some are in fixed frames; some are in frames that flow > with the text. > would it make sense to turn them all into "referenced" pictures? > are there disadvantages? > if it's a good idea, is there a straightforward, mass way of going > about it, or do i have to do each picture individually? I have an OvPro document with 273 JPEGs in and all are referenced. All the JPEGs are in a folder called 'Photos' which is in the same folder as the OvPro file. I have referenced each photo as: {filepath}.^.Photos.photoname/jpg This makes it easy if you want to transfer the OvPro file with its 'Photos' folder to another computer (RISC OS or PC), drive or folder. By having all the photos referenced also speeds up the redrawing of the screen compared to if they are not referenced. I applied the referencing of each photo manually when I first SHIFT/dragged the JPEG into its frame. I can't think of a way of doing it in mass. 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([78.149.49.236]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2010 20:29:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Yandell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: "referencing" existing pictures Message-ID: <50e89606e5steyan@talktalk.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2276 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: steyan@talktalk.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=noMRdAsZ_GcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=v1P3kiVXT5Y9yHR15BIA:9 a=ifzxqyj5zr7UNR5kJL8A:7 a=zLQQlKtmSbrQaPJadnHQQZIVCMkA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=SRpLu_Zl-MzqI5PP:21 a=1rXwTh8oNXA3Z_WW:21 On 12 Feb, Jim Nagel wrote: > i have a document that has grown to 11 meg; it has become a bit > unwieldy. it has lots of pictures: most are not all that large, but > they are many. some are in fixed frames; some are in frames that flow > with the text. > would it make sense to turn them all into "referenced" pictures? > are there disadvantages? > if it's a good idea, is there a straightforward, mass way of going > about it, or do i have to do each picture individually? If you backup your files for safe keeping, it is worth creating and then keeping an associated directory for referenced pictures, which can otherwise cause hiccups. -- steyan@talktalk.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 12 21:53:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ng3GI-38h000-07-C3N.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:53:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ng3GI-38h000-07-C3N; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:41:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ng3GI-38h000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:41:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ng3GF-00078M-EJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:41:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A86D2CD2E31; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:41:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lbx+bIR3eUdl; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D543CD2DE7; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:40:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1980CD2DEA for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:40:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NNzJv0BGjk-9 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AAFB1CD2DE7 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ng3Fy-0007R1-c2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:40:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:39:58 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: "referencing" existing pictures References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2277 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=noMRdAsZ_GcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=s18WNgs3tPhQdb7KL14A:7 a=WcnBqdS5j2LtGMIOB93O1AR1SPQA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=QStqkNOdUu8ZnAfW:21 a=vqZ3_Z-cIQ0E30mr:21 In message , Jim Nagel writes >would it make sense to turn them all into "referenced" pictures? >are there disadvantages? The main problem is the obvious one, the referenced files may get lost or separated from the document. >if it's a good idea, is there a straightforward, mass way of going >about it, or do i have to do each picture individually? It's the kind of thing it would be good to get someone else to do, or which is easier done gradually e.g. when you're making the document. Someone could write a clever macro for a text editor which took a DDL file and converted all the pictures in it to referenced form. I don't know why I didn't offer to extract/reference all pictures. Perhaps I was worried about finding sensible names for them. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 12 22:53:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ng4FL-14oknw-04-B4K.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:53:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ng4FL-14oknw-04-B4K; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:44:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ng4FL-14oknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:44:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ng4FC-0002Rx-C5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E283ECD2DD6; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:44:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQPpPZXjVArp; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:44:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38E6FCD0C06; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:43:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE086CD2CF3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:43:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dZTe90TKEG9z for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 54F24CD2D72 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([82.152.167.115]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1CMhViv029202 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:43:34 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: "referencing" existing pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:43:17 GMT Message-ID: <0862a2e850.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2278 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=noMRdAsZ_GcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3I_L7k7bV4_czkr-b3cA:9 a=xw46pam-IEGuexeZRUMA:7 a=yVBI-u5FCn_7qS8x_v6WFlUsMqoA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=UXJwPozjvjrbYyr8:21 a=QNwZaxqIwwd41Mii:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message , Jim Nagel > writes >>would it make sense to turn them all into "referenced" pictures? >>are there disadvantages? > The main problem is the obvious one, the referenced files may get lost > or separated from the document. which can happen : if you move or rename the folder containing the pictures : if you move the whole lot to a different filing system, e.g. from ADFS to IDEFS or HostFS etc. If the pictures are in the same directory as the document I *think* OPro uses relative paths, which will continue to work. Otherwise it can be a case of saving as DDL, then doing a search and replace in the DDL. For this reason I use referenced pictures while creating our monthly magazine, but once it's done I choose "embed all pictures", and save the archive copy with them embedded. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 11:39:00 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ng5WQ-3riknw-03-9nF.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ng5WQ-3riknw-03-9nF; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:06:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ng5WQ-3riknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:06:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ng5WN-0000bk-1c for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:06:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A716CCD2E03; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id and9K+VvHF-o; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C011CD26C9; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DCC83CD276B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7eKOWaU4x15q for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.242]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71560CD26C9 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:05:44 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPJ7dUtcHC7d/2dsb2JhbACbDnS+TYRYBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,463,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="450280720" Received: from unknown (HELO standalone) ([92.28.46.221]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2010 00:05:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Mulrooney To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:04:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Odd printer effect Message-ID: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100212-2, 12/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2279 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@la-cala.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eRs3Il2NFli8IFwJJXgA:9 a=aVIQqHPfYdd9exn5rDkA:7 a=rdc1qMJAoIWWLbDQWfcsmfyw0OUA:4 Hello all, Using VRPC (SA Adj) on a Vista laptop with Ovation Pro and Ovation Pro (Windows) I've recently got a wifi printer from ebay - an HP business inkjet. (I was tempted by it being an A3 with duplex) I set it as the default printer. The printer works well printing Ovation docs from VRPC. But I'm having problems using Ovation (windows) When I try to load a .dpd (Ovation) document I get the error "OvnPro has stopped working" this is later followed by a message saying that "windows can't find 'c:\path.to.doc.dpd' please check. . ." After some trials I've found that changing the default printer for windows to a different printer, allows .dpd files to be opened as normal, I can then choose to use the HP printer from the Ovation print menu. If I forget to change the printer, I don't find out until I go to check the printer output some time later. Why is this happening and how can I keep the HP as default? John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 11:39:02 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ng7Ni-2TyVbs-07-GST.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ng7Ni-2TyVbs-07-GST; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:05:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ng7Ni-2TyVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:05:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ng7Ng-0005P4-L9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:05:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4012CD30A8; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:05:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T7ac2DpkczlV; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A725CD2CA9; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D32ECD2DBE for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ipmxk3JUIDOx for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bordernet.com.au (mail.bordernet.com.au [203.221.25.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19E88CD2CA9 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30176 invoked by uid 89); 13 Feb 2010 02:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (farmstay@203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with ESMTPA; 13 Feb 2010 02:04:48 -0000 Subject: [softwarelist] problem page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:05:22 +0800 Message-ID: <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2280 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=azo4LMhgQYJoMhBdBK8A:9 a=4Fz4VCyQeuMccbTxt4UA:7 a=nvnqd8ZqP_ujMJPuimu41LjPh58A:4 Hello David In line with the current group discussion I'm also faced with another image problem. Having moved the contents of a hard drive to a new drive some pages refuse to open to full size coming up with a message that it requires disk 'x' (the previous drive) I've managed to remove other images from the offending page but it will not let me delete either the page or the chapter It simple hangs OP and only an alt/break to shut OP down unfreezes the machine. Have attached the page as a squashed item. Would appreciate your thoughts on how to remove the offending page from the document. Regards Ross Iyonix v5.13 (23 Feb 07) OPv 2.77 (5 Nov 2009) -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 11:54:00 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgGX3-4LiVbs-06-Fpe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:54:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgGX3-4LiVbs-06-Fpe; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:51:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgGX3-4LiVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:51:29 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgGX0-0004W9-MZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:51:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 424D8CD283E; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ur9QnwWFA3Bp; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B92B0CD0A85; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:09 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E7DBCD2015 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q0rq-bTdga3C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 345C2CD0A85 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NgGWi-0000Dp-jQ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:51:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:49:30 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2281 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=tnac4GarvuwGcbPaGeYA:7 a=kA3hCM8r_Ln9OL-K4sy7BDY3A3QA:4 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=q7UjC6dnMEqWaQBo:21 a=xI1xM5O7zDqRJj7f:21 In message <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney writes >When I try to load a .dpd (Ovation) document I get the error >"OvnPro has stopped working" this is later followed by a >message saying that "windows can't find 'c:\path.to.doc.dpd' >please check. . ." Are you saying this happens when you double click a file or does it also happen when you load files using the Open menu in OPW? Assuming it is double click, then I have seen a problem, I can only bring to mind WinSCP as causing it, where the application upsets the Windows messaging system and as a result OPW doesn't get the correct message about the file being double clicked. I'm not sure what to do about this, I had been inclined to think WinSCP was in the wrong, although it doesn't upset every Windows app. ISTR seeing it upset some. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 12:09:00 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgGcv-4WpVbs-07-Fjm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:09:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgGcv-4WpVbs-07-Fjm; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:57:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgGcv-4WpVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:57:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgGcs-0001Tw-KZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:57:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56D0ACD28EC; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BpsST-xC2C6y; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B9657CD279D; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 870CACD28C7 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YJblyd2Jcq0J for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 262C1CD279D for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NgGca-0005NI-ay for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:57:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:55:40 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: problem page References: <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2282 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LK1W3hA4Wr1GD7D3aMQA:9 a=olCm3XfBEQcY6-SOLDkA:7 a=l-RgAcFObsf1gX1vlThgY8YKgzoA:4 a=sar_KyJtOyRJqJ-F:21 a=hQPOnQwHJGK_yvt_:21 In message <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au>, Ross McGuinness writes >In line with the current group discussion I'm also faced with another >image problem. Having moved the contents of a hard drive to a new >drive some pages refuse to open to full size coming up with a message >that it requires disk 'x' (the previous drive) Inline with the current discussion, if you use absolute paths for referenced images this is the sort of problem you'll have when you move documents. I would be inclined to save the document as DDL, load into an editor, change the references to the correct one, save, reload in OP. >I've managed to remove other images from the offending page but it >will not let me delete either the page or the chapter It simple hangs >OP and only an alt/break to shut OP down unfreezes the machine. The save as DDL, reload DDL process should get you out of this problem too. >Have attached the page as a squashed item. I'm happy to receive examples, but this list is set up to reject attachments. So you're example is in a state (limbo) which it is difficult to get it out of. Anyway if you want me to see it please send it again to my own email address (below). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 18:27:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgKQA-1r7knw-03-BwX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgKQA-1r7knw-03-BwX; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:00:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgKQA-1r7knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:00:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgKQ7-0003xJ-AY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:00:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8C1D3CD258E; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eMQYpg30viEX; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C09CECD0627; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98751CD2523 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGbBGK4HNlJB for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.241]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3E9C4CD0627 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:00:18 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEABNbdktOk0Ca/2dsb2JhbACbHnS6eIRbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,467,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="291530022" Received: from unknown (HELO standalone) ([78.147.64.154]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2010 16:00:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Mulrooney To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect Message-ID: <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100213-0, 13/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2283 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@la-cala.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=9iJSIZJmkb-yIXYnKj0A:9 a=a_iWNV3jq8V2IWuRL28A:7 a=8_k4hVEQGIoPvqFQKa64z94DO08A:4 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=0Utt9XMxoCLlGCWa:21 a=MrZ-yRBwxnC2W8pw:21 On 13 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > In message <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney > writes > >When I try to load a .dpd (Ovation) document I get the > >error "OvnPro has stopped working" this is later > >followed by a message saying that "windows can't find > >'c:\path.to.doc.dpd' please check. . ." > Are you saying this happens when you double click a file > or does it also happen when you load files using the > Open menu in OPW? Not sufficient info :-( (sorry) I *should* have mentioned also: I can't double click (or use menu options) to run Ovation to start a new document. Before Ovation starts, I get the error: 'Windows has stopped working' I can't open it with double click, I can't open it with 'menu> open', I can't use 'menu > print' either, all give an error as above. John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 18:27:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgKoC-2sKknw-06-BYV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgKoC-2sKknw-06-BYV; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgKoC-2sKknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgKoA-00003k-1E for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55624CD1365; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28dI8ACXy4Qy; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D9162CD0815; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4C87CD1314 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pue90rUMFi0U for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bordernet.com.au (mail.bordernet.com.au [203.221.25.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9C72CD0815 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23306 invoked by uid 89); 13 Feb 2010 16:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (farmstay@203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with ESMTPA; 13 Feb 2010 16:25:02 -0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: problem page To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:25:35 +0800 Message-ID: References: <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2284 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6YVcNLt75_itPIoRE9UA:9 a=4692Tjqt6pNxhgVVMxMA:7 a=kB73HhsqT56W3-YE21Bj84TuBXUA:4 a=risjeRiCe7esNY6M:21 a=b59NxCYzGzzDH8HB:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <518ebce950.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au>, Ross > McGuinness writes >>In line with the current group discussion I'm also faced with another >>image problem. Having moved the contents of a hard drive to a new >>drive some pages refuse to open to full size coming up with a message >>that it requires disk 'x' (the previous drive) > Inline with the current discussion, if you use absolute paths for > referenced images this is the sort of problem you'll have when you move > documents. > I would be inclined to save the document as DDL, load into an editor, > change the references to the correct one, save, reload in OP. Have removed the offending page. Thanks >>I've managed to remove other images from the offending page but it >>will not let me delete either the page or the chapter It simple hangs >>OP and only an alt/break to shut OP down unfreezes the machine. > The save as DDL, reload DDL process should get you out of this problem > too. Will edit the file Thanks for the solution >>Have attached the page as a squashed item. > I'm happy to receive examples, but this list is set up to reject > attachments. So you're example is in a state (limbo) which it is > difficult to get it out of. Anyway if you want me to see it please send > it again to my own email address (below). -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 18:42:30 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgMiY-2xlVbs-04-9e9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:42:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgMiY-2xlVbs-04-9e9; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgMiY-2xlVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgMiV-0000n5-CB for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84926CD263B; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vfywKKS4hFRo; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D90EFCD25E4; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B3A17CD262E for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQNkKrqP3ZcF for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58C6CCD25E4 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.177.165]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1DIRNfb010822 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro, Chapters, Master pages and stuff Message-ID: <50e90ec76fdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2285 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=i3hVCVv-EwoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Ucv1xJdsE7mxr7GPe5QA:9 a=SMF9Sev483WXVgUgHWYA:7 a=N2bQYQKMWTcOV0y6PUKyTsXrhcYA:4 I'm attempting to get someone to move from Imp Publisher to Ov Pro, and while I can answer most of the questions being thrown in my direction, there are a couple of Blaa bits in my knowledge base. The OP has an Imp Default document that contains, in the Alter Chapter dialogue, a number of different (4) chapters defined, which are used variously within the one document, and the OP is adamant they must all be retained. The OP wants to know what happens when they drop their default (template) Imp doc on to Ov Pro as obviously one chapter gets converted, but what about the other three, what happens to them? Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 18:42:31 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgMnD-37pVbs-06-9ZU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:42:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgMnD-37pVbs-06-9ZU; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgMnD-37pVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgMnC-0007jn-UN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF4B8CD2974; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WFWKXMPUtzc; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA170CD2565; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C732ACD2620 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LH0+0ecUbs5W for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8FD0BCD2565 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NgMms-0000C9-bG for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:30:52 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2286 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Qp25q2B50ETvi9WjmOoA:9 a=vWc31rx1tYIF8r5U_8sA:7 a=zai8A833uFGQiVTIRAarSPEzHdoA:4 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=uKhjpb7kWZjmjR-H:21 a=j4vMWCPW4yUpLyix:21 In message <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney writes >I can't open it with double click, I can't open it with >'menu> open', I can't use 'menu > print' either, all give an >error as above. Starts to sound like an OPW bug. I wonder if you can point me at where I can obtain your printer driver? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 19:12:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgNC3-43CVbs-04-9Ae.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:12:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgNC3-43CVbs-04-9Ae; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:58:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgNC3-43CVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:58:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgNBw-0001Y0-St for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:58:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF37CCD1F67; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:58:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BXzji0WeIfsx; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EC824CD1FD5; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CAE81CD1FDA for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ji+lQK68KkbR for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9290ACD1FD5 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NgNBg-0004KS-cF for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:57:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4fmEOXBYXvdLFwp1@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:56:24 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro, Chapters, Master pages and stuff References: <50e90ec76fdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e90ec76fdave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2287 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FxW5ZhEZH_UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TGRXEAxO-OX_npGHztEA:9 a=U-SK8YwgrO33RTptzv8A:7 a=OGTtz_DseOnc3XDuxm0giY17RrcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=nxYteIi_Fv-4qUZb:21 a=HPvIG8XS5ROkf7h0:21 Hi, In message <50e90ec76fdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >The OP has an Imp Default document that contains, in the Alter Chapter >dialogue, a number of different (4) chapters defined, which are used >variously within the one document, and the OP is adamant they must all be >retained. In Impression there is not a one to one link between master page and document chapters. So an Impression document can have more master page chapters than document chapters, or it can have less master page chapters than document chapters. When you load an Impression document into Ovation Pro, Ovation will enforce its rule of one master page chapter per document chapter. Either extra master page chapters will be created, or surplus ones will be removed. As I always say, anyone contemplating buying OP should, have a good play with what is available for free - in the case of Windows the whole thing is available for free download. For RISC OS, there's a version of the main program that can't save and the Impression loader on my web site. I think it is fair to point out to any potential new user that this is late in the day to be buying Ovation. But there's only a handful of the RISC OS manual left - buy now while stocks last, collectors item... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 20:27:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgOX7-25cGPo-01-GM6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:27:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgOX7-25cGPo-01-GM6; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:24:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgOX7-25cGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:24:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgOX4-0001N5-Jq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:24:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2DAF6CD1D59; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:24:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SDnvzP7sIRqn; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57C45CD1149; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 344B1CD1641 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oNQEDtiLw0ry for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.243]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D126CCD1149 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:23:45 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEADqZdktZ8b0s/2dsb2JhbACbIHS6MoRbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,468,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="439815656" Received: from unknown (HELO standalone) ([89.241.189.44]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2010 20:23:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Mulrooney To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect Message-ID: <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100213-1, 13/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2288 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@la-cala.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PaMcNly6AhdgCOoDRDQA:9 a=25SFz6wQ6P-wtlE8huIA:7 a=SUecMLTL6pdZfe75eQEDprnRi-oA:4 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=h0-kTkXeA-Av-SZF:21 a=hfug1o5kGnHGbu_Q:21 On 13 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > In message <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney > writes > >I can't open it with double click, I can't open it with > >'menu> open', I can't use 'menu > print' either, all > >give an error as above. > Starts to sound like an OPW bug. I wonder if you can > point me at where I can obtain your printer driver? The laptops, this Vista and an imacbook, automagically detected the printer from 'control panel > add network > bluetooth or wireless printer' and downloaded (I think) and set up the HP business inkjet 2800 driver. The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 I can find a Samsung driver for my laser printer, but haven't been able to locate the drivers for the other printers. John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Feb 13 22:12:38 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgQDS-2hM000-04-Efl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:12:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgQDS-2hM000-04-Efl; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgQDS-2hM000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgQDP-0007dP-9l for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89B9ACD1C42; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rzkBGQr2Dl8M; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6A5FCD24CA; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B08EECD2DB2 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gk-Z9Hg2eWmP for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DCC9CD24CA for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NgQD8-0004zW-Xd for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:34 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:10:32 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2289 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=eJ030-_huUjkOrgT1YUA:7 a=zr9KV7mU0WZq7iCGiCQtxVv12nIA:4 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=hvD4qw5MJFwLE5IZ:21 a=zpzs2Pwo1W_a-TVW:21 In message <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney writes >The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 I'll see if I can find a driver - I have tried, Windows update button in Add Printer/fax gave me a shaded out window that would not go away. With it saying PCL5, maybe any PCL5 driver will do. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 14 11:30:47 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ngcdv-2MCknw-07-Alo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:30:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ngcdv-2MCknw-07-Alo; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:28:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ngcdv-2MCknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:28:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ngcdr-0004of-W3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:28:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8A0ECD2905; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4PLHUM7Eu7yL; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4332CD28F7; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97C81CD2904 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RSKO-cYuUJCl for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FDDFCD28F7 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([91.84.68.85]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1EBReEr022261 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:27:40 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:27:31 GMT Message-ID: References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2290 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=tOX_o6L1AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=vO_VXeZLAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=MtyUNNcRK-sg-Pb5dEoA:9 a=o4DeC1XCId2kAAyCTvoA:7 a=8DS6vHC62tm07fxgY03erhtvFnAA:4 a=42JzLtUAy58A:10 a=aWJLP9NEhvEA:10 a=oGnoDJFIOlM2odLZ:21 a=c2B80-Oj5Q4x_sqp:21 In message <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> John Mulrooney wrote: > On 13 Feb, David Pilling wrote: >> In message <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk>, John Mulrooney >> writes >>>I can't open it with double click, I can't open it with >>>'menu> open', I can't use 'menu > print' either, all >>>give an error as above. >> Starts to sound like an OPW bug. I wonder if you can >> point me at where I can obtain your printer driver? > The laptops, this Vista and an imacbook, automagically > detected the printer from 'control panel > add network > > bluetooth or wireless printer' and downloaded (I think) and > set up the HP business inkjet 2800 driver. > The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 www.hp.co.uk/support, enter the above details, and you should be able to download the drivers. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 14 14:15:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgfAF-48tVbs-02-Gm0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:15:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgfAF-48tVbs-02-Gm0; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:09:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgfAF-48tVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:09:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgfAB-0004Yx-N4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:09:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4D22CD2BD2; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUlnb9p8e1fU; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 27F0FCD1C96; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5040CD2E0E for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UCd5VKq2SMMj for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA40FCD1C96 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Ngf9u-0001wK-dv for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <7QY0t8AuOAeLFwgy@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:07:42 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2291 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=vO_VXeZLAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=6XahyJ42dqTst2F4E8cA:7 a=GwtqvQzANMtkXW4PzM_PWMyGYyQA:4 a=WafTaU7e7Fv2NCee:21 a=s50ewAaw6FKOJBqB:21 In message , Alan Adams writes >> The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 >www.hp.co.uk/support, enter the above details, and you should be able >to download the drivers. Thanks for that. I got the drivers, they installed, there's no problem 8-( tbh I am using XP. So I'll have to give Vista a go later. I notice the driver offers PCL 5c or 6. I picked 5c. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 14 16:45:57 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NghRJ-321000-03-EUw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:45:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NghRJ-321000-03-EUw; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:35:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NghRJ-321000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:35:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NghRF-0005iI-LG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:35:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9D8ECD2858; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wwDE4zEkT+td; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41BF5CD25AC; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B9C0CD2674 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZSgHZHdpwXa5 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.238]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2862CD25AC for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAD+1d0tcHc/Y/2dsb2JhbACbHXS6N4RbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,472,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="314235912" Received: from unknown (HELO standalone) ([92.29.207.216]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2010 16:34:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Mulrooney To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:32:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect Message-ID: <50e9881ce4john@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7QY0t8AuOAeLFwgy@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> <7QY0t8AuOAeLFwgy@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100214-0, 14/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2292 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@la-cala.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=vO_VXeZLAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zLwS-i9SI0tiUwBKuqMA:9 a=3I2l2KaO8dcqouUyvXYA:7 a=hLLjvtIYRL6NaXi5okoM6CDSiEMA:4 a=InXKf0TrYNeps5_b:21 a=FVhdPYaLBwUrylIb:21 On 14 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > In message > , Alan > Adams writes > >> The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 > >www.hp.co.uk/support, enter the above details, and you > >should be able to download the drivers. > Thanks for that. I got the drivers, they installed, > there's no problem 8-( > tbh I am using XP. So I'll have to give Vista a go later. > I notice the driver offers PCL 5c or 6. I picked 5c. Ah, I let the computer detect the printer and find the driver for it. I'll try downloading a different driver later. (just got in from what feels like a long day at work) Also I'll try out xp when we can rescue my wife's laptop which seems to have been kidnapped by a daughter To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Feb 14 21:16:06 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgldW-1olGPo-05-AIj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:16:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgldW-1olGPo-05-AIj; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:04:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgldW-1olGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:04:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgldU-0004a5-7z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:04:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79387CD1DFF; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:04:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id quYxJs42B-pk; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C7D46CD1C42; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:03:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9B556CD1DA0 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:03:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVdrua8HL2F6 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FEA9CD1C42 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.172.38]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1EL3pGl012240 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:03:52 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:03:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] DPLngScan for Windows Message-ID: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2293 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_RT2HV225fUJrPsHxugA:9 a=Eb8f7jTv2tP1JB0lYrQA:7 a=u2d4Psug9NUdSZK2HJe41SalKB4A:4 Evening Mr P. I have a directory of Sprites I've tranferred en-block to my Very fast Win PC. I want to convert them all to another Win usable format, like PNG or similar, that in itself is no problem as PlngScan for Windows does that okay. The problem is this. 1) PlngScan doesn't respect the preferred Save filetype. In a Windows graphic app once a SaveAs file type has been set, regardless of what filetype is loaded, upon SaveAs the filetype is the one the user has set and not what it might have been when the file was originally loaded. 2) There doesn't seem to be a Save Frame As shortcut. (Bummer). Is there one, not noted in the menu that I'm missing? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 11:49:30 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgyRY-1PC000-06-EXj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:49:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgyRY-1PC000-06-EXj; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:44:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgyRY-1PC000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:44:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgyRW-0002st-Hb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:44:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04153CD2DFB; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LP1PYWyvld0U; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52CA9CD23EB; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D066CD2AA1 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mNuB7-59quIV for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.242]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CE986CD23EB for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:44:25 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMizeEtOlmEZ/2dsb2JhbACbG3S7H4RbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,475,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="450451160" Received: from unknown (HELO iyonix.workgroup08) ([78.150.97.25]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2010 10:44:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jack Evans To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:36:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows Message-ID: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2294 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: jack@ljsevans.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=UjCtF1DkAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zD6YRiaw81WDUBNU2usA:9 a=Uh6i_gTMjuWGbA-6Kz8A:7 a=HYTwMxM9F6EHf-xfZHR2qugyfCUA:4 a=c_VJIVJPyp4A:10 a=0aWbCkqX2phdXDkJ:21 a=gJMVv5KjAPh8-vpG:21 I've just installed OProW on a Mac running Windows XP via VM Fusion emulation and all the indications are that it is going to work as intended. The only disappointment, apart from losing the advantages of the RISC OS system like middle button menu access, is the crude font screen display ie lack of anti-aliasing. Would it be any better with Windows 7? Regards Jack -- Jack Evans Bristol UK mailto:jack@ljsevans.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 11:49:30 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NgyZy-2Kx000-07-EPJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:49:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NgyZy-2Kx000-07-EPJ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NgyZy-2Kx000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NgyZv-0000Ix-Ff for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07417CD290C; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sQIlnyILlNPo; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0BD9FCD275B; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DC4DBCD2813 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRiN3MtiHNti for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 870A2CD275B for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so3338968ewy.11 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 02:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.1.150 with SMTP id 22mr2524960ebf.63.1266231184594; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 02:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (5ac3347e.bb.sky.com [90.195.52.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm14642238eyd.37.2010.02.15.02.53.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 02:53:03 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows From: Clive Bonsall In-Reply-To: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:53:00 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <46804E8B-504F-444C-A4BE-49CB13E8221B@ed.ac.uk> References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> To: davidpilling@freelists.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-archive-position: 2295 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=DFGEbmnv7-Yd8kdGDqMA:9 a=WXUyMf88dTKJiQzxqMkA:7 a=qaAndZfngTNxCd2IyBKLJWYfIKsA:4 a=KFjKS7ZeEdEA:10 On 15 Feb 2010, at 10:36, Jack Evans wrote: > I've just installed OProW on a Mac running Windows XP via VM Fusion > emulation and all the indications are that it is going to work as > intended. >=20 > The only disappointment, apart from losing the advantages of the RISC = OS > system like middle button menu access, is the crude font screen = display > ie lack of anti-aliasing. You need to run Windows ClearType Tuner to optimize the display. See: = http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/step1.aspx > Would it be any better with Windows 7? No, except that ClearType Tuner might be activated by default. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D C.B. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 12:49:15 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh0CE-0TJGPo-05-Cn3.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh0CE-0TJGPo-05-Cn3; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:37:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh0CE-0TJGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:37:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh0CB-0005yf-Ht for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:37:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85B5ACD2D52; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QeOjWKROfmpS; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B7B3DCD2A69; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DC43CD2BB0 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hfaU83mF31dZ for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28E45CD2A69 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:36:42 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAIrOeEtUXebz/2dsb2JhbACbHHS7b4RbBA Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2010 12:36:42 +0000 Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=Macintosh.local) by relay02.plus.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1Nh0Bt-0004iv-VT for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:36:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:35:03 +0000 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <46804E8B-504F-444C-A4BE-49CB13E8221B@ed.ac.uk> References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <46804E8B-504F-444C-A4BE-49CB13E8221B@ed.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61.3.3136 (Qt/4.6.0) (Mac-OS/10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Plusnet-Relay: b4a14772437703f34f47acb9717b32fe X-archive-position: 2296 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=E0F6PzzqAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Q4AW7xYpRFIzCi7YfusA:9 a=mNRgw97BY8IZQd1BVMIA:7 a=dkHFMAXTv0D5tnXRsXuuY-3fz6cA:4 a=yoW3GxOvyaEA:10 a=KFjKS7ZeEdEA:10 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 On 15 Feb at 10:53, Clive Bonsall wrote: > > On 15 Feb 2010, at 10:36, Jack Evans wrote: > > > I've just installed OProW on a Mac running Windows XP via VM Fusion > > emulation and all the indications are that it is going to work as > > intended. > > > > The only disappointment, apart from losing the advantages of the > > RISC OS system like middle button menu access, is the crude font > > screen display ie lack of anti-aliasing. > > You need to run Windows ClearType Tuner to optimize the display. See: > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/step1.aspx > > > Would it be any better with Windows 7? > > No, except that ClearType Tuner might be activated by default. Thanks: it works well on OProW under VM Fusion on my Mac. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 13:49:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh1DO-4PK000-06-Blt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:49:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh1DO-4PK000-06-Blt; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh1DO-4PK000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh1DN-0002yw-AQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1CF2CD26F1; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:42:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLu1ux4FsxOF; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C1631BEC2A; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:41:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C47D31BEC2E for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:41:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mddBsa-jxchT for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 88E8A1BEC2A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh1D2-0007mt-Y9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:40:32 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2297 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2IxqPPIZwoQQ5b6SYZMA:9 a=rz7qiLvLjhXAQNWIa1kA:7 a=Ho_-V1pWlBp4BGHL7WjQRMHjFj0A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=DcdWP_dnwrQ7YIRp:21 a=66qDf9Kc1s_QGDhA:21 Hi, In message <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >I have a directory of Sprites I've tranferred en-block to my Very fast Win >PC. >I want to convert them all to another Win usable format, like PNG or >similar, that in itself is no problem as PlngScan for Windows does that >okay. I think you're probably stuck with what you've got. I do think the behaviour of the file type in the save window can be irritating. A batch mode or some way of calling the program from the command line (and hence script files) would be a good thing. Windows does let you use ALT + letter abbreviations for menu options that don't have explicit underlined letters. So ALT + F + S gets to the save window. You probably could script things using the Windows equivalent of keystroke. If I was faced with this problem. I'd probably add a batch mode to DPScan. I guess there are command line utilities on RISC OS? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 14:34:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh1wH-01cVbs-03-B30.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh1wH-01cVbs-03-B30; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh1wH-01cVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh1wF-0007kn-TU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1181ACD28B0; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gs2Ih5rJWZ0c; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 573FCCD2770; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E570ECD286D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZqzYnOYigwHQ for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.12]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A42BFCD2770 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-13-72.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.13.72] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nh1vy-000FWF-2I for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:22 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:26:36 GMT Message-ID: <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2298 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=0HfbnxdeAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hs9YQpqXED9iNo00UmQA:9 a=lzwMjlog61xJJWB3uaIA:7 a=_9unHHb7zGdQ6J5L1SZ1zF6UolAA:4 David Pilling wrote on 15 Feb: > I'd probably add a batch mode to > DPScan. I guess there are command line utilities on RISC OS? Rob Davison's !BatchFSI: www.compo.iconbar.com/misc.htm -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 15:19:20 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh2c1-07ZGPo-02-ANG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:19:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh2c1-07ZGPo-02-ANG; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:11:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh2c1-07ZGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:11:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh2bu-0000NN-VC for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:11:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5A25CD30C9; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PX9E8wfNm155; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33701CD3120; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF6D1CD313A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q7PNK3TjqC-H for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bordernet.com.au (mail.bordernet.com.au [203.221.25.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92AD4CD3120 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4478 invoked by uid 89); 15 Feb 2010 15:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (farmstay@203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with ESMTPA; 15 Feb 2010 15:09:55 -0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:10:37 +0800 Message-ID: References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2299 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=0HfbnxdeAAAA:8 a=5ANokUeuAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4VkOaiL-Lw1oq1nPsqUA:9 a=Gc5rj27TQ2J9BjXdtlIA:7 a=ZS3trkAxrE7H-65ILzHo6bzb4mQA:4 a=w6IhTE7YM6YA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=uXrbhIcIPkWPcAri:21 a=BzFTHJtvxUG9P2F_:21 In message <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> Jim Nagel wrote: > David Pilling wrote on 15 Feb: >> I'd probably add a batch mode to >> DPScan. I guess there are command line utilities on RISC OS? > Rob Davison's !BatchFSI: www.compo.iconbar.com/misc.htm or Jochen Lueg's FSI_Batch available at http://www.jochenlueg.freeuk.com/english/software.htm The only problem I've come across is if the target directory (for the resized images) is too deep - keep it in the first three levels and it is fine. -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 16:34:23 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh3rM-1tvknw-06-97v.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:34:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh3rM-1tvknw-06-97v; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh3rM-1tvknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh3rJ-0000em-F2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C7B2CD19D5; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4bQGXNUQ21iC; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5EE7ACD30BC; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F16DCD30C1 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bKIveoVjeQHP for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3589CD30BC for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh3r0-000021-il for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:31:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:29:56 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2300 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=0HfbnxdeAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=asqQ0886meAJknemgbQA:7 a=KzK4JIBBJ7evDlU61oPSiJHWCzcA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=vMopfWRyeWzEIeUJ:21 a=iAofC9Hvdkj8qIXV:21 In message <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel writes >David Pilling wrote on 15 Feb: >> I'd probably add a batch mode to >> DPScan. I guess there are command line utilities on RISC OS? > >Rob Davison's !BatchFSI: www.compo.iconbar.com/misc.htm And what is the target format of these utils - bmp? png? I'd guess you may find some utils from the days of web pages, targeting .gif. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 18:04:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh55N-1GSGPo-08-GQQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:04:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh55N-1GSGPo-08-GQQ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:50:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh55N-1GSGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:50:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh55K-0005FD-2M for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:50:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F46ACD242B; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0cZGVQ6HQwtE; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99BB2CD2373; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 506E6CD237A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CFVBQ9US+laa for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.13]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 534B2CD2359 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-13-72.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.13.72] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nh53f-000ESx-NY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:48:32 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:31:18 GMT Message-ID: References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2301 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=0HfbnxdeAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2YdCbhBh0a0IWAUcsgwA:9 a=E4xFhy8cP78NTtCrb6kA:7 a=putPHdxFD2UTH2uZZQbJtjNcrngA:4 David Pilling wrote on 15 Feb : >>Rob Davison's !BatchFSI: www.compo.iconbar.com/misc.htm > And what is the target format of these utils - bmp? png? it's a front-end to !ChangeFSI, which can take dozens of different formats as input. some are quite obscure. a bit amazed to re-read, after many years, the document inside the application. only five output formats, of which sprite and JPeg are the only ones i recognize. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 18:04:26 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh5Ci-23oGPo-03-GJ5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:04:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh5Ci-23oGPo-03-GJ5; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:57:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh5Ci-23oGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:57:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh5Cf-0007ZL-2z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:57:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B03FCD273E; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fOj-SgzWTPEe; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD362CD23A7; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7D8B1CD258F for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A6Wxt6zii7B1 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.244]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 242B5CD23A7 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:57:31 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAAEaeUtOkBlv/2dsb2JhbACbGnS9Q4RbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,478,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="439830931" Received: from unknown (HELO iyonix.workgroup08) ([78.144.25.111]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2010 17:57:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jack Evans To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:57:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Font rendering in OProW Message-ID: <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2302 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: jack@ljsevans.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PUSqpCxdCg8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=UjCtF1DkAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zD6YRiaw81WDUBNU2usA:9 a=_WsdadlSz5kfjgW_r7MA:7 a=y55OFJLhTw_5qrBR0nK8rmgtX3gA:4 a=c_VJIVJPyp4A:10 a=aARk4Il4sT8E21Zl:21 a=mqm1RUAFd96KmDxB:21 I should have started a new thread for my question - see below - instead of tagging it on to an existing one. Here it , with apologies: I've just installed OProW on a Mac running Windows XP via VM Fusion emulation and all the indications are that it is going to work as intended. The only disappointment, apart from losing the advantages of the RISC OS system like middle button menu access, is the crude font screen display ie lack of anti-aliasing. Would it be any better with Windows 7? Regards Jack -- Jack Evans Bristol UK mailto:jack@ljsevans.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 18:34:31 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh5cS-1RX000-03-FtL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:34:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh5cS-1RX000-03-FtL; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:24:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh5cS-1RX000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:24:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh5cQ-0000RW-Ke for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:24:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF670CD30B0; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ute77B8NWaAG; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A452CD303B; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:12 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 025CCCD303C for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 693SipUDLRu5 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C15FFCD303B for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh5c9-0004DO-lB for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:24:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:22:42 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2303 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=UjCtF1DkAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ImaGAtBvrNeTqTuxOfUA:9 a=Xi44ZOH1846Ekk_Tjr4A:7 a=ZtNfaUQZSVbbpaG660XgCvDiiWIA:4 a=c_VJIVJPyp4A:10 a=Nx6QQpIBIX0Pg9Og:21 a=S6UbMf6dXj2BoMn8:21 In message <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk>, Jack Evans writes >The only disappointment, apart from losing the advantages of the RISC OS >system like middle button menu access, is the crude font screen display >ie lack of anti-aliasing. >Would it be any better with Windows 7? I'd go along with Clive's answer, Windows Cleartype + a DVI LCD screen is pretty good, just about comparable with an Acorn circa 1990. I don't know what the situation is on the Mac under emulation. As to W7. I got a copy last week. My first thought was that it looked little different to XP, unlike Vista which acted and looked completely different. I'm not sure why one would get W7 if there wasn't another reason like a new computer. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 18:49:27 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh5sm-2kO000-04-Fd1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:49:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh5sm-2kO000-04-Fd1; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:41:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh5sm-2kO000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:41:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh5sj-0005SW-5k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:41:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A810FCD319D; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U62LuBxT9u8A; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E332CD240C; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9EC8CD30BE for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DS4e3qdXRkhD for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from server3.spellings.net (server3.spellings.net [85.234.144.17]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ACEBBCD240C for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc3-croy19-2-0-cust46.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([94.169.180.47] helo=Shuttle) by server3.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nh5sI-0003k1-IW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:40:50 +0000 Message-ID: <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:40:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1Nh5sI-0003k1-IW X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server3.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 2304 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RfbYStDabqlrteT2ntwA:9 a=RolrzSMgF4xSBnM6F3wA:7 a=DWGTtK2JddHbSD_UEEwn7WrdJr4A:4 David Pilling wrote: > As to W7. I got a copy last week. My first thought was that it looked > little different to XP, unlike Vista which acted and looked completely > different. I'm not sure why one would get W7 if there wasn't another > reason like a new computer. [veering slightly off topic...] Win7 has some annoying differences from XP, though, such as the grouping of items in the Start menu. As for replacing XP, I can think of one reason - the 'Blue Screen Of Death on update' event last week, which hit one of my machines! Microsoft swooped on it, took it away for diagnosis, and identified the virus that caused it. Before it was collected I learnt more than I cared to know about Boot settings and the Recovery Console... What we need is an operating system in ROM that can't be infected. Oh, wait... -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 19:34:29 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh6gV-1iZknw-03-EpI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh6gV-1iZknw-03-EpI; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:32:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh6gV-1iZknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:32:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh6gT-0001kg-Jk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:32:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5FCBCD1E6E; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Rz5HOprMio7; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E5E7CD28F6; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D376FCD290A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QhJDeMzddWvu for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85CCBCD28F6 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.192.15]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1FJWM2B001074 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:32:22 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows Message-ID: <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2305 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=aOUtAPrJAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=0HfbnxdeAAAA:8 a=5ANokUeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JonHq3vEn3Vc2iac3zQA:9 a=IwiaTCur8W6DoWCJhEQA:7 a=NTtDyuFp5AFtDNzqVovDzvfOyT8A:4 a=w6IhTE7YM6YA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=fhbXgXOgmaM0ZW5M:21 a=GEgclWzoiejnDJaA:21 In article , Ross McGuinness wrote: > In message <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> > Jim Nagel wrote: > > David Pilling wrote on 15 Feb: > >> I'd probably add a batch mode to > >> DPScan. I guess there are command line utilities on RISC OS? > > Rob Davison's !BatchFSI: www.compo.iconbar.com/misc.htm > or Jochen Lueg's FSI_Batch available at > http://www.jochenlueg.freeuk.com/english/software.htm > The only problem I've come across is if the target directory (for the > resized images) is too deep - keep it in the first three levels and it > is fine. I'm confused... Considering my Subject line is: DPLngScan for >>Windows<<, and the Spritefiles are now on a Win PC, I'm not quite sure why a number of RO options (Of which BTW. I'm aware) are being suggested. Aside from the Alt+F+S (which I'd forgotten about) it seems with the filetype problem, I'm going to die of boredom anyway, which was something I was hoping to avoid by taking the files to a very fast Win PC rather than attempt the operation on a slow SARPC. Dave BTW. I don't see how !BatchFSI would be of any use, as via CFSI it only outputs Sprites or Jpegs, and Jpegs are absolutley not what I want. And neither would !FSI_Batch, and that's aside from the fact they run under the wrong OS. D. -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From ecartis@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 19:34:29 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh6iC-1ksknw-07-Enb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh6iC-1ksknw-07-Enb; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh6iC-1ksknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh6iC-0006cP-1Y for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 846D2CD2D0D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lWcX3ktBSSfs for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 578B8CD2B6A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37C15CD2D0D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hf24a2jVWI5h for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 102A2CD2B6A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from freelists.org by freelists.org (ECARTIS/1.0.0); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:26 -0500 (EST) From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager Reply-To: lists@thesandfords.me.uk To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Message-ID: X-ecartis-antiloop: freelists.org Precedence: list Subject: davidpilling: lists@thesandfords.me.uk post needs approval X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GXRo7JSr90wA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=kvYbNz-4AAAA:8 a=u7XRUPlwAAAA:8 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=UjCtF1DkAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=wuTByj3FAAAA:8 a=378xnmdKyyy_SYev0O4A:9 a=EzhWSnAYru2XrreylFsA:7 a=pBfcOX7O004CL0kh8z_Be_GQ69UA:4 a=vaF4yFaCieYA:10 a=aNJECpxizG8A:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=c_VJIVJPyp4A:10 a=Ii4e4aeKgRYA:10 a=xDG44dzS7Lj1Xqty:21 a=iZsamUXzEzVT2JKk:21 This message was received for a list you are a moderator on, and was marked for moderation due to the following reason: Non-member submission to closed-post list. 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Ecartis needs it. // apppost 4B79A1C2:7F3B.1:qnivqcvyyvat >From lists@thesandfords.me.uk Mon Feb 15 14:34:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFCCBCD2D0D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1rKxlkzD-cS for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from al.netweaver.net (al.netweaver.net [78.129.250.121]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id 63C6BCD2B6A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5317 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 19:34:28 -0000 Received: from cpc1-heme10-2-0-cust843.9-1.cable.virginmedia.com (HELO Iyonix.Rannoch) (lists@thesandfords.me.uk@81.104.43.76) by al.netweaver.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 19:34:28 -0000 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: John Sandford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:34:18 GMT Message-ID: References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: None User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message David Pilling wrote: [snip] > > As to W7. I got a copy last week. My first thought was that it looked > little different to XP, unlike Vista which acted and looked completely > different. I'm not sure why one would get W7 if there wasn't another > reason like a new computer. That suggests that the install left you set in the windows 7 Basic mode ?; Here using Windows 7 Aero theme its just like Vista but without the bone numbing slowness. (Needs 1 GB memory free to active during install, but can be selected manually, although under 500 MB would probably be slow.) John -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead RISC OS User Group email info@hhrug.org // eompost 4B79A1C2:7F3B.1:qnivqcvyyvat From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 21:19:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh8IM-3E4Vbs-06-DDR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:19:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh8IM-3E4Vbs-06-DDR; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh8IM-3E4Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh8IL-0005wY-MN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 31420CD3040; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id imu3ClNLJSjJ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF8BDCD2541; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5DDC0CD25EF for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VAujcEWQoW5u for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22B1BCD2541 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh8I1-0007dK-Wg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:14:19 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2306 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=-JuJKTwdG9hI1s3KN2YA:7 a=x1mjoDEjaJB_jakUhj5-_iNHdx0A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=7FZrfckzDjJzoZZf:21 a=8CEVKh7allU5BCI0:21 In message <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >Considering my Subject line is: DPLngScan for >>Windows<<, and the >Spritefiles are now on a Win PC, I'm not quite sure why a number of RO >options (Of which BTW. I'm aware) are being suggested. Because I can't think of a solution on Windows. Saying that reminds me that some Windows programs do understand Acorn Sprites - offers? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 21:19:32 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh8J0-3HrVbs-01-DCn.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:19:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh8J0-3HrVbs-01-DCn; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:16:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh8J0-3HrVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:16:34 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh8Ix-0003fb-HZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:16:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5B69CD1A5C; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dWnvYfLp+JDU; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 16168CD2F9D; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E488ACD1B24 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WnqSNPghlj8p for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6C18CD2F9D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh8Ig-0002Dg-eV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:16:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:08 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle> In-Reply-To: <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2307 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=j8oI5MAmAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_j8V7cfx78ry9oSMoJYA:9 a=g-_yq1vnlf0xFm8wIEkA:7 a=GsPEa56p_gpILv-fZNeDv10aLy4A:4 a=75RN5w1BdfEA:10 a=hAcv8riNZJ_kQQtb:21 a=-YU3_rqmJwb_ktjz:21 In message <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly writes >items in the Start menu. As for replacing XP, I can think of one reason - the >'Blue Screen Of Death on update' event last week, which hit one of my >machines! >Microsoft swooped on it, took it away for diagnosis, and identified the virus >that caused it. That's good service. Microsoft seem to let my machines go horribly wrong and do nothing. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 21:34:33 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh8No-3XMVbs-01-D7z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:34:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh8No-3XMVbs-01-D7z; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:21:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh8No-3XMVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:21:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh8Nk-00046J-Jt for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 16DCBCD2714; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O08Yomak-VKf; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61F7BCD1CD3; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 360C1CD1EE8 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PiTGB4cEIYER for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F3E7CCD1EE5 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nh8NI-0003oM-dv for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:21:00 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:19:36 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2308 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=EEE8Mx45VSLDe_ZNf_oA:7 a=b1cKHP98dasNPmvVryggLEuaYG0A:4 a=SoEhDn8sER1bqf2b:21 a=e2WclmSt5cryUXgZ:21 In message , David Pilling writes John Sandford posted this from a non-subscribed address - ================================================= That suggests that the install left you set in the windows 7 Basic mode ?; Here using Windows 7 Aero theme its just like Vista but without the bone numbing slowness. (Needs 1 GB memory free to active during install, but can be selected manually, although under 500 MB would probably be slow.) ================================================= No I think it is in Aero mode, I've got 4GB RAM. In a way "looks" are the problem. Changing the sprites and colours as Microsoft (and Acorn etc.) do is a zero gain, certainly not worth the money and the upset. W7 certainly doesn't come with a handbook that tells me what technical gains there are. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Feb 15 22:34:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nh9KE-1vXGPo-04-CBZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:34:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nh9KE-1vXGPo-04-CBZ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nh9KE-1vXGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nh9KB-0000pw-RX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B9ACCD1CA2; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9rU0G1fjN9ee; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8AFECCD17ED; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5DDB1CD19D6 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lK3FkS7gjAs1 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D338CD17ED for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([91.84.181.241]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1FMLW1K007710 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:32 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:18 GMT Message-ID: <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2309 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GrRxdATxDeE3lOwawyUA:9 a=MK-7h6SwUxIvpM4-DwQA:7 a=vX-JZVmKGNpwn3n4MdTuGwBfpi0A:4 a=i-3yIH4XGqqUWlXQ:21 a=cvunnuUGRxw3_f2l:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message , David Pilling > writes > No I think it is in Aero mode, I've got 4GB RAM. In a way "looks" are > the problem. Changing the sprites and colours as Microsoft (and Acorn > etc.) do is a zero gain, certainly not worth the money and the upset. > W7 certainly doesn't come with a handbook that tells me what technical > gains there are. The ability to use more than 3GB of RAM. Improvements to the User Access Control facility - it's not dissimilar to Ubuntu's method of working now. probably lots of other things I haven't found yet - I've only had hands-on for a week, and it's work, not home, so I haven't had too much time to play. It's definitely an improvement on Vista anyway (not that that would be hard...) -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 12:07:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhA6X-1Bh000-07-BPG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:07:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NhA6X-1Bh000-07-BPG; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:11:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NhA6X-1Bh000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:11:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NhA6U-0002C3-RV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:11:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB30BCD2CA0; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JJqOTtc-f7Gm; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 468A5CD2903; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 213B4CD2AAD for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kkLzfQLTSB+B for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 742BFCD2903 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NhA67-0005Zi-fo for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:11:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:11:11 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2310 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=cS-roY7d9-DGNdG89ckA:7 a=51kqkrHDSFGCkSQ7OiLIlFTEsJYA:4 a=NTEF3Dx_H_tgqlg3:21 a=IsYnR6bCeX5yD5xb:21 In message <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams writes >The ability to use more than 3GB of RAM. Is that with the 64bit version? - 64 bit versions of XP and Vista are available. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-4-217.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.4.217] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NhCEi-00042l-7h for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:28:24 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:28:51 GMT Message-ID: References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2311 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=1i27-a2iAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cDXRUBDkwJgtB6QD7zgA:9 a=NpYf8FHatNvMNc4kKgUA:7 a=SOfd11PZ0vzn57GQPfxsfOtmuTEA:4 a=aXZAG915avYA:10 command-line utility for Windows here includes Acorn sprites in its list of files it batch-converts "toPNG": www.bcheck.net/apps/topng.htm Usage: ToPNG "FileToConvert" [format] in this case, apparently: [acorn ] : Acorn Sprite -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 12:07:25 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhHPh-11d000-04-Ccc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A98E6CD2884 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fawxs2d0rG3i for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5ADF6CD2867 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.191.228]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1G6xhMp028131 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:59:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:07:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows Message-ID: <50ea56894cdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28 (22 May 2004) (32) X-archive-position: 2312 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mnjUwdCdWkrWKbxHVEQA:9 a=n0RA9R-_Ao1P63qQ7_gA:7 a=cYPPANKoJ3VhFdS58b03Z3ig4xIA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=tHcENCCr7rhZEQgU:21 a=Gjqf4gTP39IxiVeK:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >Considering my Subject line is: DPLngScan for >>Windows<<, and the > >Spritefiles are now on a Win PC, I'm not quite sure why a number of RO > >options (Of which BTW. I'm aware) are being suggested. > Because I can't think of a solution on Windows. Saying that reminds me > that some Windows programs do understand Acorn Sprites - offers? OakDraw say it will load Acorn Spritefiles (.ff9) but it doesn't load any I have. AspexDraw also says it will load Acorn Spritefiles (.ff9) and it will load plain Spritefiles, but not anything with an Alpha channel. Obviously DPlngScan for win will load both types. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 12:07:28 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhJol-2FkVbs-08-ADY.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:07:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NhJol-2FkVbs-08-ADY; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:34:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NhJol-2FkVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:34:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NhJog-0002Ik-3O for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:34:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B1BFCD2926; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fxlnja4PtXce; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE4A2CD27BE; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F37BCD28C5 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iHFJtMoJGMDf for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from server3.spellings.net (server3.spellings.net [85.234.144.17]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56AE7CD2897 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpc3-croy19-2-0-cust46.croy.cable.virginmedia.com ([94.169.180.47] helo=Shuttle) by server3.spellings.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NhJoK-00026U-C1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:33:40 +0000 Message-ID: <260EC904B03D42439E3662097DA80714@Shuttle> From: "Bruce Goatly" To: References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:33:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1NhJoK-00026U-C1 X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server3.spellings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goatly.co.uk X-archive-position: 2313 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bruce@goatly.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=j8oI5MAmAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=vBgKx0mJhi0UmefBuuwA:9 a=9LdlWN25MaMRc3vrH5UA:7 a=K-GB79cZ3KRPFOAOu4jc3zNSClQA:4 a=75RN5w1BdfEA:10 David Pilling wrote: > In message <6BEDB9DD8B3042909836C779BF1F10CC@Shuttle>, Bruce Goatly > writes >> items in the Start menu. As for replacing XP, I can think of one reason >> - the 'Blue Screen Of Death on update' event last week, which hit one of >> my machines! >> Microsoft swooped on it, took it away for diagnosis, and identified the >> virus that caused it. > > That's good service. Microsoft seem to let my machines go horribly wrong > and do nothing. As a rule I'd agree, but in this instance they seemed *desperate* for a clue as to what was causing the BSOD, because they couldn't reproduce it. -- Bruce To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 12:07:31 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhMA2-4DGVbs-01-GOn.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:07:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NhMA2-4DGVbs-01-GOn; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:04:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NhMA2-4DGVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:04:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NhM9z-000010-K2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:04:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F18ACD28EF; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:04:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qN464BbSXhGL; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 69740CD27D6; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:03:55 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30C43CD2853 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:03:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hin3AWoY1Fy9 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailforwards.extendcp.co.uk (mailforwards.extendcp.co.uk [79.170.40.74]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E93AECD27D6 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 5acaa5fd.bb.sky.com ([90.202.165.253] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by mailforwards.extendcp.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) id 1NhM9h-00017G-A4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:03:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:03:14 +0000 From: Ray Dawson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Font rendering in OProW Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <50e9eb5d76jack@ljsevans.co.uk> <50ea13b7adjack@ljsevans.co.uk> <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org X-Organization: MagRay User-Agent: Gemini/2.29m (Qt/3.3.8) (Windows-Vista) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2314 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ray@raydawson.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrgHYi3_xnwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rn3g9vAThCuj0pQ5ezIA:9 a=bcH2UVB4taQw5LW6Kk0A:7 a=pHbrvF_4Km1_xd2Ofuyl05866i8A:4 a=ThXNHnuZ74ZMQOAg:21 a=Fk3gdyk_XDOgSEin:21 David Pilling wrote: > In message <15e12bea50.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams > writes > > The ability to use more than 3GB of RAM. > > Is that with the 64bit version? - 64 bit versions of XP and Vista are > available. The problem with XP and Vista is finding 64 bit drivers whereas Windows 7 is pretty complete from that point of view. If you run the compatibility assistant beforehand it will tell you where potential problems lie regarding drivers and software and you can source the ones W7 doesn't have from the OEM. As for why anyone would choose to run Vista, either 32 or 64 bit... ;-) Cheers, Ray D To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 14:22:20 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhO6r-1FFVbs-05-ERy.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:22:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NhO6r-1FFVbs-05-ERy; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:09:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NhO6r-1FFVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:09:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NhO6p-0004m6-RG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:09:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C27BCD29C3; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:09:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aGIIjTJQ81sC; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44317CD29AC; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:08:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D9D9CD29B8 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:08:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nE3xZ4ESmuqP for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE67FCD29AC for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NhO6Y-0007jp-kF for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:08:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:07:32 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2315 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=1i27-a2iAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=78PkEBpWRegzxtETW98A:7 a=UPsEZYRVsiRzJu8Ki0jG-tSEtgkA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=wdPmUi0-4yYCZzSN:21 a=-xLK5vjuAOkdExEc:21 In message , Jim Nagel writes >command-line utility for Windows here includes Acorn sprites in its >list of files it batch-converts "toPNG": >www.bcheck.net/apps/topng.htm It is based on the "freeimage" project library, they do not talk very loudly about Acorn support. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. 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Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-4-217.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.4.217] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NhOiy-000Jh9-SP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:48:29 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:45:13 GMT Message-ID: <9ff585ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2316 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=1i27-a2iAAAA:8 a=MtK2e2toAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PrDvqwBGWRoLODJhuE8A:9 a=m5RMBRbsehxUBH4XReQA:7 a=Fs3JgcjZm-ccqoHfX6qI9OpxlAgA:4 a=MWgKzfI_p2MA:10 a=6OYf7ryztAdMHIMI:21 a=vvhzOb0sVcZuToz9:21 David Pilling wrote on 16 Feb: >>www.bcheck.net/apps/topng.htm > It is based on the "freeimage" project library, they do not talk very > loudly about Acorn support. it seems to handle a couple of hundred formats, so no wonder they don't talk loudly about all of them. www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic2941.html remains to be seen whether "Acorn sprite" means only old-format sprite. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 16:22:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhQAf-0PZVbs-04-COA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:20:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:18:54 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPLngScan for Windows References: <50e9a0efd5dave@triffid.co.uk> <516b00ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <50ea1c3b22dave@triffid.co.uk> <9ff585ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9ff585ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LcWZx6s1TCUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=MtK2e2toAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=EoJX3jJf3EknqD5SxKEA:7 a=TngT0XivmAq-HM3WsrDmm3FEj3kA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=i5rnIxfE8Gu_mAbE:21 a=t4HdkM4bmXVfbrCU:21 In message <9ff585ea50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel writes >it seems to handle a couple of hundred formats, so no wonder they >don't talk loudly about all of them. >www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic2941.html In that forum, Acorn is mentioned for "nconvert.exe part of the xnview package", not topng. There have been a number of changes to the Acorn sprite format, and even the oldest files have some subtleties - best bet would be a project that has had input from ex Acorn programmers. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Feb 16 22:22:37 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NhVcO-3D1000-08-FSx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:22:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NhVcO-3D1000-08-FSx; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:10:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NhVcO-3D1000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:10:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NhVcK-0006KC-8x for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:10:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7FAFDCD3826; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:10:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sQUBmisIPGua; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9E942CD37E5; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71B7CCD37BA for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GKmqeNjQd309 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net (out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.244]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3CAACCD37E1 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAA+mektcHd2A/2dsb2JhbACbG3S9E4RbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,486,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="439967004" Received: from unknown (HELO standalone) ([92.29.221.128]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 22:07:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Mulrooney To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:37:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd printer effect Message-ID: <50eaaba91bjohn@la-cala.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7QY0t8AuOAeLFwgy@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50e8a9cfe8john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9014906john@la-cala.co.uk> <50e9191c20john@la-cala.co.uk> <7QY0t8AuOAeLFwgy@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100216-1, 16/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2318 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@la-cala.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QgDIlvgx6Y0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=vO_VXeZLAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=c_O6Tyb5HoiOI_zKJvwA:9 a=Z73odMmwX3qFaKNEs0QA:7 a=BAtlnXbzQAEs0Jx7e9A-woojkeAA:4 a=fS3fXh4dEqFB53re:21 a=11xyGStpPP5Ghsal:21 On 14 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > In message > , Alan > Adams writes > >> The printer is listed as :HP Business Inkjet 2800 PCL 5 > >www.hp.co.uk/support, enter the above details, and you > >should be able to download the drivers. > Thanks for that. I got the drivers, they installed, > there's no problem 8-( > tbh I am using XP. So I'll have to give Vista a go later. > I notice the driver offers PCL 5c or 6. I picked 5c. Hmm. Been to the site. Looked for drivers. The info says: 'Drivers are already included in Vista' The info on the site suggests that there are alternative drivers within the system, but I can't find them. Thanks for your help anyway. At least I've discovered what the problem was and I don't have to keep at an old restore point. John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 12:32:05 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkcj1-0GqGPo-06-9tg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:32:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkcj1-0GqGPo-06-9tg; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkcj1-0GqGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkcio-0003Ow-TU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61443CD4571; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iG+K-4utW4Ax; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9BE2CCD3E48; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:17 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6960DCD3EBE for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KopNjZaKzRFR for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1528CD3E48 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100225122113.MFAK4204.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:13 +0000 Received: from PC01 ([86.4.6.22]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with SMTP id <20100225122113.WGOG2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:13 +0000 Message-ID: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: "David Pilling \(softwarelist\)" Subject: [softwarelist] Control characters in text files Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:21:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtHxNT4mZm3rCuM0SmWmgWxeBwJsziC8EqOrwwVkrhA= c=1 sm=0 a=cjJ7-e60vJf5taz4O70A:9 a=tV6e3sDQgj5QATsc2Rnl9_BjL1MA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2319 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: johngrogan@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Z2jaqnfZTaMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cjJ7-e60vJf5taz4O70A:9 a=zr_jrdtP3Goms_PHGJEA:7 a=zyjFZPNyuIuDvZgWoaSkRyPnyd0A:4 Hello When importing plain text files into an OvationPro frame, is it possible to have control characters or escape sequences in the text file which will produce effects such as Bold and Italics? Regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 13:17:06 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkdPh-2hT000-07-9D0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:17:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkdPh-2hT000-07-9D0; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:05:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkdPh-2hT000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:05:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkdPe-0000MJ-O2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:05:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3544CD4696; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ButnzyxvjmcB; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 09669CD44CA; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1DB9CD45DF for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SjqUYLC2D8uJ for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML109.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml109.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.13]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77879CD44CA for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.75.73]) by CPSMTPM-EML109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:05:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: "David Pilling \(softwarelist\)" Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:05:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files Message-ID: <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2010 13:05:36.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[38CE5920:01CAB61B] X-archive-position: 2320 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=X6jzI5HgQSpXpJQA-zoA:9 a=nQsOLhuzJsq3qEmG61MA:7 a=Fc7N37rN8xWrxCOpEvWJ2n2IKx4A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 John Grogan wrote: > When importing plain text files into an OvationPro frame, is it possible > to have control characters or escape sequences in the text file which > will produce effects such as Bold and Italics? Absolutely. These effects (and a lot more) are taken care of by the !TransDDF filter, found in the Filters subdirectory within OvationPro. To enable Bold, for example, insert the following code into your text: {Bold on} ...text to be boldened... {Bold off} Or, if you have defined a Bold style in your Ovation document: {"Bold" on} ...text to be boldened... {"Bold" off} Read the Help file of the !TransDDF filter for details. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 17:02:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkgvF-3ohVbs-07-EDy.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:02:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkgvF-3ohVbs-07-EDy; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkgvF-3ohVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkgvB-000499-Nv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5DF2BCD469F; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BoZl90uw5UpX; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD2E2CD33EA; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80B70CD4678 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Ftnb0CY-NoT for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 085BACD33EA for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100225165022.YFNO10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:22 +0000 Received: from PC01 ([86.4.6.22]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with SMTP id <20100225165022.MJOK22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:22 +0000 Message-ID: <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:50:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=OFYUxOv66VEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=TC2MoTr17lXj9zATYDwA:9 a=w-DnmkzQGookT6Wku6kA:7 a=EPKb8ZM2bQ9F-Diqxxwwcw7V0N0A:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2321 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: johngrogan@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=TC2MoTr17lXj9zATYDwA:9 a=t6afv-zDrpBc_Y8IrXQA:7 a=COq8zdab2oXJjUVAJ-Ci7lQ-J_YA:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Sprangers" To: "David Pilling (softwarelist)" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files > John Grogan wrote: > >> When importing plain text files into an OvationPro frame, is it possible >> to have control characters or escape sequences in the text file which >> will produce effects such as Bold and Italics? > > Absolutely. > These effects (and a lot more) are taken care of by the !TransDDF filter, > found in the Filters subdirectory within OvationPro. > > To enable Bold, for example, insert the following code into your text: > {Bold on} ...text to be boldened... {Bold off} > > Or, if you have defined a Bold style in your Ovation document: > {"Bold" on} ...text to be boldened... {"Bold" off} > > Read the Help file of the !TransDDF filter for details. > > Kind regards, > Paul Sprangers Thanks for that info. I've often wondered what all those !Trans... bits were for! My only problem now is that !TransDDF seems to throw away my form-feeds (\f). I tried {newpage}, {off}{newpage}{on} and even {off}\f{on} but to no avail. Is there a DDF {newpage} type of instruction? Regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 18:47:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkiXW-1IJknw-06-Cbh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:47:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkiXW-1IJknw-06-Cbh; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:34:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkiXW-1IJknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:34:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkiXT-0006TO-U3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:34:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5AD3DCD4CA0; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W0m4-8yStwc9; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6DAAACD4C49; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48231CD4C6F for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id moO9NjDz+JUY for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DBE5CD4C49 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NkiXB-0006Kq-fx for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:34:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:32:41 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> In-Reply-To: <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2322 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=Y5QbezVFE0ZWOOucBj4A:7 a=aJRZQVItc76bKJ1Ox7IAOGgbQeIA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=Mndnbbz6NY9pWbtR:21 a=klQ9W_B3BtsVlqUR:21 In message <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01>, John Grogan writes >Is there a DDF {newpage} type of instruction? {nextframe} The DDF manual is available from: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. 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FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 18:47:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkiaP-1Y0knw-02-CYo.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:47:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkiaP-1Y0knw-02-CYo; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:37:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkiaP-1Y0knw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:37:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkiaN-0001xS-EX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:37:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 079FFCD4CA1; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8E--Tq4ueyhy; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B97ECD4C49; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 05E35CD4C8D for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Y3LKtosX3PF for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML108.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml108.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.12]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A15F5CD4C49 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.75.73]) by CPSMTPM-EML108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:37:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:36:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files Message-ID: <50ef3db336Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2010 18:37:00.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[848866C0:01CAB649] X-archive-position: 2323 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JN9JdBtgQM8RMsZGJBgA:9 a=LxBIswu4-HDOV35gpB8A:7 a=hSTNXirTkFfvewJgIou3C8R2MscA:4 > Is there a DDF {newpage} type of instruction? I'm not sure, but there's definitely a {nextframe} instruction, which does the same - at least, when there's only one frame per page. It would actually be fine, if there's a list with all possible DDF instructions. Anyone? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 18:47:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkicS-1c4knw-05-CWl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:47:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkicS-1c4knw-05-CWl; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkicS-1c4knw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkicO-0000di-Ci for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8ACEDCD4C8A; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AY7oMHn-rOKJ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCE4FCD3F9D; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:08 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9EF8CD42EF for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5gBz7NhO79ph for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 09AD1CD3F9D for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100225183905.DOSX10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:05 +0000 Received: from a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk ([81.111.61.254]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20100225183904.KWGJ21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@a9.a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:04 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files To: From: Anthony Hilton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:55 GMT Message-ID: <1af83def50.Ant@a9.tinshill.f9.co.uk> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> In-Reply-To: <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.42) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=yDeL9fSueKQA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=j8-0JTJRHj1bouOuVzUA:9 a=nYjLD35-dt7AC01k5ZMA:7 a=O-w7HZxjc8oBs-N-USl08u-IF4AA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2324 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=j8-0JTJRHj1bouOuVzUA:9 a=6XRl7Wqxk7Tb99PF5A0A:7 a=Yviez5v3okJjl942TbiZVjDV1l4A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 In message <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> dated 25 Feb 2010 "John Grogan" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Sprangers" > To: "David Pilling (softwarelist)" > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:05 PM > Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files >> John Grogan wrote: >> >>> When importing plain text files into an OvationPro frame, is it possible >>> to have control characters or escape sequences in the text file which >>> will produce effects such as Bold and Italics? >> >> Absolutely. >> These effects (and a lot more) are taken care of by the !TransDDF filter, >> found in the Filters subdirectory within OvationPro. >> >> To enable Bold, for example, insert the following code into your text: >> {Bold on} ...text to be boldened... {Bold off} >> >> Or, if you have defined a Bold style in your Ovation document: >> {"Bold" on} ...text to be boldened... {"Bold" off} >> >> Read the Help file of the !TransDDF filter for details. >> >> Kind regards, >> Paul Sprangers > Thanks for that info. I've often wondered what all those !Trans... bits > were for! > My only problem now is that !TransDDF seems to throw away my form-feeds > (\f). I tried {newpage}, {off}{newpage}{on} and even {off}\f{on} but to no > avail. Is there a DDF {newpage} type of instruction? >From the !TransDDF Help file: Minor omissions include: Frame throw Anthony -- Anthony Hilton ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 18:47:17 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkifc-1t4knw-05-CTb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:47:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkifc-1t4knw-05-CTb; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:42:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkifc-1t4knw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:42:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkifa-0002Yl-JG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:42:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F3A37CD4CBF; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:40 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 211Im2rEwoQB; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63D2FCD4C54; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3D794CD4CC1 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRavtG+edwq2 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml106.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.10]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4F6DCD4CA9 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.75.73]) by CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:42:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:42:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files Message-ID: <50ef3e31cbPaul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2010 18:42:25.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[464AC1E0:01CAB64A] X-archive-position: 2325 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=-ITjkiyUTFDukqznW3AA:9 a=z6U_BbMe4VomibWKW3MA:7 a=zpIwnDVbeY8rLjsbyelDO2DN_tkA:4 David Pilling wrote: > The DDF manual is available from: > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf Well, that's really a comprehensive and helpful document. Why not put it in the !TransDDF directory by default? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 19:47:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkjYK-1dzVbs-06-Bat.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkjYK-1dzVbs-06-Bat; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:39:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkjYK-1dzVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:39:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkjYG-0001XO-Vf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:39:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0071CD4B78; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:39:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rwd56+5LohNp; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5DA5CD4CD0; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A767CD4D44 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N9Lq8hfwaVz8 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CBE4ACD4CD0 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100225193844.POSR4474.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:38:44 +0000 Received: from PC01 ([86.4.6.22]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with SMTP id <20100225193844.FESL2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:38:44 +0000 Message-ID: <8838B569337A46929AC8F148494EA7CC@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:38:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=OFYUxOv66VEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=bTTMNnIZTVjtHeqzdqoA:9 a=AuS_QUnFWBchPminjBxJo0pd-f8A:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-archive-position: 2326 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: johngrogan@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=bTTMNnIZTVjtHeqzdqoA:9 a=bHfZdeZOTgMtDLPJKZUA:7 a=tWDQszmeZwSRkoVSZAgHzMRaUcQA:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pilling" To: Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:32 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files > In message <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01>, John Grogan > writes >>Is there a DDF {newpage} type of instruction? > > {nextframe} > > The DDF manual is available from: > > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf > Thanks David. That's spot on! I did look at the DDFSpec file but never thought of searching for "next"! I agree with others that it's probably worth putting either DDFSpec itself or a reference to it in the Filters folder (although it wasn't difficult to find with Google!). Regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Feb 25 21:17:22 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkkzj-0Ny000-01-A9U.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:17:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkkzj-0Ny000-01-A9U; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkkzj-0Ny000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkkzg-000147-2X for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 399D2CD4CCB; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mj7mb9YUUl72; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83AC0CD4BBA; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5EA51CD4C85 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nbeo-pGpAzf4 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EE62CD4BBA for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NkkzM-0004J7-ll for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:09:55 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <8838B569337A46929AC8F148494EA7CC@PC01> In-Reply-To: <8838B569337A46929AC8F148494EA7CC@PC01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2327 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=sI6uLTON9qV_iHWvr8wA:7 a=cATnItix8Fv07TB5SN7p5exsUl0A:4 a=Uaffn_qkl5Z4XPV_:21 a=V0lc2O5McrD419rf:21 Hi, So just to clear up, I didn't know about 'frame thow', but {nextframe} does work. The DDF document is also in the Ovation Pro RISC OS section of my web site: http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/filelib/files/newddf.zip I guess when the filter came out we didn't have permission to use the file, or something. I know it is currently by kind permission of XAT. There is some messing about to ensure that all text files pass via the DDF filter - Google the mail list archives - if you're happy don't worry about it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 12:07:06 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkn0c-3w0knw-01-Gf7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:07:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkn0c-3w0knw-01-Gf7; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:20:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkn0c-3w0knw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:20:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkn0a-0006VV-OD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:20:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3714CCD4BEA; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:20:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ZTc4DVGtQFD; 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Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb-87-82-1-17.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.1.17] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nkn0J-000HvD-Bl for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:20:24 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files To: From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:21:06 GMT Message-ID: <6bb657ef50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2328 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=CqNQrBcTf3iYFXcO24oA:9 a=_xrr9hOvQsjVfeu6jWUA:7 a=Ewk_GSElXEF1Bw5AdD1iKVpmAnQA:4 Paul Sprangers wrote on 25 Feb: > To enable Bold, for example, insert the following code into your text: > {Bold on} ...text to be boldened... {Bold off} actually it's without the "off", though maybe it works either way: This is {bold on}bold{bold}; this is {italic on}italic{italic}; this is normal. > Or, if you have defined a Bold style in your Ovation document: > {"Bold" on} ...text to be boldened... {"Bold" off} with Styles, as opposed to Effects, that's correct: there is an "off". -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 12:07:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkoMZ-3CnVbs-06-FJA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:07:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkoMZ-3CnVbs-06-FJA; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:47:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkoMZ-3CnVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:47:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkoMV-0006MQ-Db for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:47:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73C56CD449E; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KxMwSNAZ6MRT; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF97DCD3BC2; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89C4CCD3BE2 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2LMr8YEK0lu4 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail6.inspire.net.nz (mail6.inspire.net.nz [203.114.168.6]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E9D7CD3BC2 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail5.inspire.net.nz (unknown [10.0.168.5]) by mail6.inspire.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DA02AAF21 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:47:02 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.168.8]) by mail5.inspire.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002FDDBA9F for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:47:01 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from mail5.inspire.net.nz ([10.0.168.5]) by localhost (mail8.inspire.net.nz [10.0.168.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NUB5PL22Yzia for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:47:01 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from freja.khnet.nz (203-114-180-66.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz [203.114.180.66]) by mail5.inspire.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2E6DBA79 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:47:01 +1300 (NZDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Keith Hopper To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:50:37 +1300 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf Message-ID: <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2329 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: asgard@inspire.net.nz Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=CZ_l-ApqOXmZYmBws94A:9 a=ws3fBLmfLv0uTVca4pkA:7 a=3KtScMkcWgJXQgfe6BLv9JMrtQUA:4 a=dctJR6b-owR3KnhO:21 a=4zPRPh6PRuMmlUz6:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > The DDF manual is available from: > http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf Am I the only person who receives and "Identifier needed at 1" error message from Ovn Pro when this file is passed to it? I haven't the remotest idea what is going on. Help, please! Keith -- Inspired! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 12:07:15 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkuu7-0VHVbs-04-8lc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:07:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkuu7-0VHVbs-04-8lc; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:46:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkuu7-0VHVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:46:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkuu4-00020n-RM for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:46:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A672CCD2EB7; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2NKztlC0yuE; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF1AFCD455B; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:12 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6D80CD455D for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AtLqmKc+2fB9 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 789ECCD455B for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:11 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAAYLh0vUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACbFnO9aYR3BA Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 26 Feb 2010 07:46:10 +0000 Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Nkutm-00027C-F9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:46:10 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:46:02 GMT Message-ID: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Plusnet-Relay: bb2c31821bb4d81f4353547497edace4 X-archive-position: 2330 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pgMQez8VAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wJyIEdP1-xDZWTMd91UA:9 a=zTvogVXNSY8Sj0VZIz0A:7 a=2tRcFwpMBHUI3fb0UbmcBjI50QsA:4 a=BOBl-huzfb_vnOOS:21 a=GayQy3H-8TzphaK4:21 In message <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> Keith Hopper wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: >> The DDF manual is available from: >> http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf > Am I the only person who receives and "Identifier needed at 1" error > message from Ovn Pro when this file is passed to it? > I haven't the remotest idea what is going on. Help, please! > Keith Just give the DDFSpec/ddf file the file type DDF eg. menu > Set type > DDF then you can drag it on to the OvPro icon on the icon bar to open it. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 12:22:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkz5D-0Qjknw-07-D72.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:22:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkz5D-0Qjknw-07-D72; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:14:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkz5D-0Qjknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:14:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkz5C-0002KE-CL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:14:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25897CD45C9; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:14:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id boyEd4VSzmrA; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7ED01CD4557; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:53 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4E127CD456E for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Bc3UyjUkSg3 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14703CD4557 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Nkz4p-0000rO-cd for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:13:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:12:14 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2331 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pgMQez8VAAAA:8 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=g16XhlsNwe9NQ97BMVkA:9 a=7mQQcUdXAMO-GOzQVXcA:7 a=NblhiJmRJajHDLLJO0Lq_cheuxAA:4 a=k4XhI1-4UIWs3sKF:21 a=TELvNPUSOXBbnaLr:21 In message <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz>, Keith Hopper writes >> http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/Others/XAT/DDFSpec.ddf > > Am I the only person who receives and "Identifier needed at 1" error >message from Ovn Pro when this file is passed to it? I'd observe that this file is DDF (the Impression text mark up language) and *not* DDL (Ovation's document description language). If you type the above as DDL then you will certainly have problems. It needs extension .ddf, or 707, on Windows. For RISC OS you can type it 0x707 or type text as long as OP knows to feed all text files through the DDF filter (which I think it does by default). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 12:22:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1NkzB5-1F0knw-08-D1A.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:22:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1NkzB5-1F0knw-08-D1A; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:20:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1NkzB5-1F0knw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:20:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1NkzB3-0000v5-8e for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8B0BCD3C3F; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YfVI+8X48FLF; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA306CD3BD9; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6754CD3BDD for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-ngrq2M0m0K for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9071FCD3BD9 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1NkzAj-000024-df for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:19:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:18:35 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Control characters in text files References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <6bb657ef50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6bb657ef50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2332 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vfY07JKF6mAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Do9xja_ABQEi5chG_uMA:9 a=Jm9FvRhnwc1HzmXqOx4A:7 a=PPmAdkxmYypnHp3lisq-1LPrGXcA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=VnviNI7_0J62t8LR:21 a=f3_-v5OimwoxUWTm:21 In message <6bb657ef50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel writes There is the dreaded triplet: {bold on} {bold off} {bold} Three different things. The first means "bold", when applied over any combination of styles turn on bold. The second is the exact opposite *not bold*, when applied over any combination of styles turn off bold. The last means "cancel bold effect", any bold setting from styles will appear. I'm not sure if Impression understands the three states, but OP does, and possibly so does the DDF translator. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 13:07:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkzjl-0qCVbs-03-CSU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkzjl-0qCVbs-03-CSU; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:56:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkzjl-0qCVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:56:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkzji-000232-7j for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:56:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 96E5DCD3F4A; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:56:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQZcEeSRbMKh; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C017CD3E52; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:55:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DC15FCD3F4A for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:55:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1c+hJjNKVrj for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pluto.adsl24.co.uk (pluto.adsl24.co.uk [84.234.17.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5E7FCD3E52 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [109.224.128.114] (helo=Iyonix) by pluto.adsl24.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NkzjO-0006TZ-2I for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:55:46 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Brian Howlett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:55:35 GMT Message-ID: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - pluto.adsl24.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianhowlett.me.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-archive-position: 2333 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TX66bSGUdZtKsBwnvnQA:9 a=STTAGVRy4xBUi_JGmZsA:7 a=UbEqd5td9DtedrL0ocGkZ7InXu4A:4 On 26 Feb, David Pilling wrote: [snip] > I'd observe that this file is DDF (the Impression text mark up > language) and *not* DDL (Ovation's document description language). If > you type the above as DDL then you will certainly have problems. > It needs extension .ddf, or 707, on Windows. For RISC OS you can type > it 0x707 or type text as long as OP knows to feed all text files > through the DDF filter (which I think it does by default). It didn't here (latest RISC OS version). When I dragged the downloaded file, typed as text, to OP's iconbar icon it displayed the file contents, but when I set the type to DDF it displayed correctly. -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you the Prime Minister?" "No, but I've often been mistaken." "What, for the Prime Minister?" "No. I've just often been mistaken..." To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 13:22:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkzum-2C7Vbs-01-CHT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:22:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkzum-2C7Vbs-01-CHT; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkzum-2C7Vbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkzuk-0003ti-O1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E18D1CD45AC; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eYZ+NKXfk7FY; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C7E12CD447B; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:10 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A30F4CD450E for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OD-jd9dtUTFj for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1594CD447B for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-208-30.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.208.30]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1QD76b9005529 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:06 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:02 GMT Message-ID: <2a54a3ef50.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2334 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=SWMmumL4AAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UDZLa_QHOZTUdR3J9dYA:9 a=h8FujS3xraX2Gdxr0jkA:7 a=DfNJASxK-vNtJDTe6nIn3ZM-_bYA:4 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=e_Dl2ZeDi0hZ49GC:21 a=JjjMyyJpkt0cEe32:21 On 26 Feb 2010 Brian Howlett wrote: > On 26 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > [snip] >> I'd observe that this file is DDF (the Impression text mark up >> language) and *not* DDL (Ovation's document description language). If >> you type the above as DDL then you will certainly have problems. >> It needs extension .ddf, or 707, on Windows. For RISC OS you can type >> it 0x707 or type text as long as OP knows to feed all text files >> through the DDF filter (which I think it does by default). > It didn't here (latest RISC OS version). When I dragged the downloaded > file, typed as text, to OP's iconbar icon it displayed the file > contents, but when I set the type to DDF it displayed correctly. Could this extract from the TransDDF Help file perhaps be relevant? [quote] If you wish to load DDF's with an ASCII filetype, un-comment the following line in the !TransDDF !Boot and !Run files. Set FFGServer$TransDDFa -T &FFF &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir Now double-click on !TransDDF and re-run Ovation Pro. [unquote] HTH, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \/ __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 13:22:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nkzv7-2DhVbs-03-CH8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:22:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nkzv7-2DhVbs-03-CH8; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nkzv7-2DhVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nkzv2-0005Z1-Cr for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EDC7FCD453F; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id thP2UNG5J0k1; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4408ACD3D89; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21D28CD4532 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trOwKhIBXFI3 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA606CD3D89 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from bach (77-21-7-237-dynip.superkabel.de [77.21.7.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MW9RR-1OHiA01nJZ-00XRxa; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:07:25 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:07:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19R9YpbCb3J8crEX39UsUpNIUjEg2wGx7BVV8l Yd8xdcVrXck/VksNLiJDxj5mLxOeJxdftb5Esda3YSArvx6vMI dlWoVq1zne0Hb3NJRNCPA== X-archive-position: 2335 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=HCrCHVouAAAA:8 a=SWMmumL4AAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QCWKS-sSNFxjEaTt3DUA:9 a=UCSXEx-xvz2Yl5ize_cA:7 a=jOqQX3tURfyHbfOl4OVtOY5EubkA:4 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=Yx1yi13PtTVzM7f7:21 a=NfSC85kOs8adhwm2:21 In message Brian Howlett wrote: > On 26 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > [snip] >> I'd observe that this file is DDF (the Impression text mark up >> language) and *not* DDL (Ovation's document description language). If >> you type the above as DDL then you will certainly have problems. >> It needs extension .ddf, or 707, on Windows. For RISC OS you can type >> it 0x707 or type text as long as OP knows to feed all text files >> through the DDF filter (which I think it does by default). > It didn't here (latest RISC OS version). When I dragged the downloaded > file, typed as text, to OP's iconbar icon it displayed the file > contents, but when I set the type to DDF it displayed correctly. This behaviour is configured in !TransDDF.!Boot. If you uncomment (remove the bar from the start of) the line that mentions &FFF, then text files are fed through the filter as well. There are pros and cons to that approach. Do not follow it if you ever want to use text files containing curly braces. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 13:22:09 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nl02d-31JVbs-05-C9c.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:22:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nl02d-31JVbs-05-C9c; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:15:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nl02d-31JVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:15:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nl02a-0003L3-HU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:15:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EBA1DCD471D; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qXnKd6XfJuIu; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E6A8CD46CA; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0960DCD46D0 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kkYVzB4LGWia for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pluto.adsl24.co.uk (pluto.adsl24.co.uk [84.234.17.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C7265CD46CA for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [109.224.128.114] (helo=Iyonix) by pluto.adsl24.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nl02H-0004ZE-8u for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:15:17 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DDFSpec.ddf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Brian Howlett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:13:44 GMT Message-ID: <78f1a3ef50.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> <2a54a3ef50.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2a54a3ef50.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - pluto.adsl24.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianhowlett.me.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-archive-position: 2336 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2SOZxojAvkoc2Q06W_AA:9 a=HigEF9td2Ws1kVQ2ZTIA:7 a=cP1Im3h3gALakYRA63EmS3UOE2AA:4 On 26 Feb, Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 26 Feb 2010 Brian Howlett wrote: [snip] >> When I dragged the downloaded file, typed as text, to OP's iconbar >> icon it displayed the file contents, but when I set the type to DDF it >> displayed correctly. > Could this extract from the TransDDF Help file perhaps be relevant? > [quote] > If you wish to load DDF's with an ASCII filetype, un-comment the > following line in the !TransDDF !Boot and !Run files. > Set FFGServer$TransDDFa -T &FFF &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir > Now double-click on !TransDDF and re-run Ovation Pro. > [unquote] Yes, that line is commented out here. As I don't import text as a general rule, I'll leave things alone for now. -- Brian Howlett ----------------------------------------------- If you shoot a mime, should you use a silencer? To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 17:52:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nl4JB-031Vbs-06-GPa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:52:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nl4JB-031Vbs-06-GPa; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nl4JB-031Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nl4J8-0003kM-6S for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:49:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8EB9CD3296; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dm87w5L1ch4d; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1362BCD2EBD; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF7A1CD2EBC for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id azFshSSHD0wX for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0E3DCD310B for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:39 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,546,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="170552243" Received: from unknown (HELO PC-Ubuntu) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 26 Feb 2010 17:48:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:48:37 +0000 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] TECHWRITER UPGRADE 7.11 TO 8.8 Message-ID: <20100226174837.0fa1974f@PC-Ubuntu> In-Reply-To: References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 2337 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=m8CDFic7-wQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WEwFPhzdXvRiTBTAXYwA:9 a=l9QHAnf7NHyEC6U-4hkA:7 a=hx20LfF4rLlW2OVl_fMXSE_6fh8A:4 a=2LgES4mwD6bYJhfe:21 a=0KXzoLl06xWQ9vwH:21 Hi Martin I've just sent you =C2=A370 for this upgrade, by direct bank transfer. Earlier in the week I attempted to send the same by Paypal, but it seems not to have transferred correctly. If, however, it does eventually turn up, I'm sure you will be good enough to return the second payment. Best wishes Martin --=20 Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 17:52:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nl4L3-0BNVbs-07-GNi.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:52:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nl4L3-0BNVbs-07-GNi; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:50:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nl4L3-0BNVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:50:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nl4L1-0005lP-HL for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:50:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D8DFDCD3C2C; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOTC+PTO2SyJ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 159A5CD31F0; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:40 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E970DCD38F1 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UF8sb0eIoZUy for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92AA4CD31F0 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:50:39 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,546,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="177521896" Received: from unknown (HELO PC-Ubuntu) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 26 Feb 2010 17:50:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:50:38 +0000 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] mistake Message-ID: <20100226175038.5487be4d@PC-Ubuntu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 2338 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=u2UOZdKXnO8TghKtHZgA:9 a=7v69_R-mtfA01HvKBsUA:7 a=r38SmsSRyzUGUZdw-vhecfiULXkA:4 Sorry, David, I've just sent you a mail intended for Martin Wuerthner. Please ignore, with my apologies best wishes Martin -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Feb 26 19:07:20 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Nl5OO-10tGPo-08-FKN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:07:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Nl5OO-10tGPo-08-FKN; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Nl5OO-10tGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Nl5OK-00045P-9Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7FBFFCD459E; 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b=f5R0wEmC7Ps/U2GxJVD0FEo8UOWBv3/TaNbMo/nTtxdHTVQbhPTTifs/pChc5RFigIWKqWpFjK+eArzsdO/HQQMG6BbcPv4tlzHnCpfox2qdXhScQvRmxfgDw27/L4KQO1I39LfInsiW83qS3Gn+OHV6en60fMVLEa4XlZo2ktI= Received: from iyonix.btinternet.com (doug.j.webb@217.43.38.54 with login) by smtp829.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2010 18:58:05 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6KB1.9qswBB7aigfaPph36Bh4fuxjBaHbXxkMgKlNmtSEzepUa3B X-YMail-OSG: EKzBvOQVM1lUDITNCs_w4YvEl7aar2pN3Oo_RxodPhCImnG2PSt42pZX6X5x8uMnXfEbNeheNgYFDTXbTuuomPcPp.wbtSjLsRk6xZKGpiYV00xjFEBjWQvUl2LHXYSWUE4xLpHgkMBEbxvPESS46RqgQLW8MPbNsT9m31vUSPftX5pDq1icFJPNWxf9jwNvPt1C0UWeMmaHKpGz.H6fQ5Ak_PjYTK3SGARmcyzCzQWH4_W._FKFC_BKVCVpqdceNoaIDQNWfGGqjkxi3qCqCLiFiWRMInaP8npBcA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: TECHWRITER UPGRADE 7.11 TO 8.8 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Doug Webb X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:57:19 GMT Message-ID: <3066c3ef50.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> References: <203F73E214B04CB1B5AD38DEB9957042@PC01> <50ef1f5c4ePaul@sprie.nl> <06E2F530C5DA4755829332E8B4FE029B@PC01> <50ef5fe8aaasgard@inspire.net.nz> <20100226174837.0fa1974f@PC-Ubuntu> In-Reply-To: <20100226174837.0fa1974f@PC-Ubuntu> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 2339 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: doug.j.webb@btinternet.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5Qij6O1rkMYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=d4B_Z-JPE3j55ZZjkFgA:9 a=Q0tSgqJb1ff9VcybHGAA:7 a=NGGRQ8_GFpx3o1L4MXMg-5LB7osA:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=PJTWPUX3eU5bjEk0:21 a=7IPLIO1PCz7rpkwo:21 In message <20100226174837.0fa1974f@PC-Ubuntu> Martin Devon wrote: > Hi Martin > I've just sent you =A370 for this upgrade, by direct bank transfer. > Earlier in the week I attempted to send the same by Paypal, but it > seems not to have transferred correctly. If, however, it does > eventually turn up, I'm sure you will be good enough to return the > second payment. > Best wishes > Martin Martin This is the wrong list and David Pillimg is Ovation Pro not techwriter=20 which is by Martin Wuerthner. icob-users@freelists.org or webmaster@mw-software for direct emails Doug --=20 Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.16, the thinking person's alternative=20 operating system to Microsoft Windows. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling