From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 2 12:13:04 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jgp8H-1Ppknw-02-DDO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:13:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jgp8H-1Ppknw-02-DDO; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jgp8H-1Ppknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jgp8H-0002Ob-5f for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45ED78388CE; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14945-06; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D528A838897; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:38:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 066F18388CF for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14881-05 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.webfaction.com (mail4.webfaction.com [74.52.233.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CAD678388B3 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from abacus.local (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail4.webfaction.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m31McQ6A000998 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:38:27 -0500 From: David Boddie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Importing Impression files into OP (Bruce Goatly) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:38:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804020038.25285.david@boddie.org.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 596 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: david@boddie.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qqshAuZ2Zk4A:15 a=ouwrPtQoWkQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uhGpaH-B89G89znG9H4A:9 a=YmGYzlujEKteNfdMtQYA:7 a=EECndfQKRbbjUFipKeiarAzO5GEA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.4/1355] On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:23:10 +0100, Bruce Goatly wrote: > Clive Bonsall wrote: > > > Ex oriente lux. But can't you convert them to the "newer" file format > > before importing into OPW ... assuming, of course, you have an > > appropriate version of Impression? > > Indeed. However, I suspect we will inevitably need to cater for a situation > in which Impression is no longer available to the user (hence requiring > import of the files into OPW). It may be possible to take the constituent parts of documents stored in the old-style directory format and put them together to make a new-style single file document. There's a good chance that Impression itself wouldn't read these reconstituted documents, but Ovation Pro might be able to. David To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 2 12:27:32 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jh166-27w000-02-9m5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:27:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jh166-27w000-02-9m5; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:25:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jh166-27w000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:25:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jh15x-0003zL-9y for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:25:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 249E9837BEA; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23432-03; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6A92838E6B; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:24:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4D48837BEA for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23250-06 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56E21836747 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jh156-0002An-NZ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:24:42 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:23:31 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Importing Impression files into OP (Bruce Goatly) References: <200804020038.25285.david@boddie.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <200804020038.25285.david@boddie.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 597 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=ouwrPtQoWkQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gMDI-yO0xGzJQ-IrKlkA:9 a=MjM4uknSSiiC6g-ZUcYA:7 a=AqjcY-bd6zrIIDbLRJZ3nlqpEH0A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.4/1355] In message <200804020038.25285.david@boddie.org.uk>, David Boddie writes >It may be possible to take the constituent parts of documents stored in the >old-style directory format and put them together to make a new-style single >file document. >There's a good chance that Impression itself wouldn't read these >reconstituted documents, but Ovation Pro might be able to. I suppose I could answer that by looking at the source code of the Impression filter. The two formats must be similar for me to have been able to load both using the same piece of code. However since you can load directory format documents already what would be the point turning them into files. If you want something to worry about... my filter only loads the latest (last) Impression file format. There are older formats. Given the way things went, about 4 years development during which the file format changed and then 16 years in which nothing happened, most stuff is in the last format. 5000 years hence are archaeologists going to pick through all this stuff the way they do through shopping lists written on cuniform clay tablets in 3000BC. If so - Hi guys! -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:05 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhWst-1ldknw-08-C5M.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:58:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhWst-1ldknw-08-C5M; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:22:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhWst-1ldknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:22:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhWst-00059v-AU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:22:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C1BDA838E4A; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09225-04; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B3F5838DAB; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:21:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF417838FA5 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09161-05 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.57]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 64852838F84 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:21:29 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0AAGnn9Ed5LCxe/2dsb2JhbAAIrCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,600,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="87047969" Received: from ppp121-44-44-94.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([121.44.44.94]) by ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2008 07:51:17 +1030 Message-ID: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:21:54 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ovation software list Subject: [softwarelist] DPScan windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 598 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=D5sQDud4TOMA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mzQBtDSp26pHUemSuv0A:9 a=DiU4M_MS7Nlji3u-zOsA:7 a=qDcD5FqCpfYNoHuwCyJpq5BcjFAA:4 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] When loading DPScan I get an error message 'The specified colour management module is invalid (select CMM)(1010)'. I have tried changing the module in colour management with no result, changing anything in the colour management window has not effect, so I cannot select my printer or scanner etc. Stuck with LCMS and monitor and printer profiles as supplied. The version is 1.24 and using it on a Vista Home Premium Windows computer. Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:11 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhZ7u-3ReVbs-03-9qL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:58:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhZ7u-3ReVbs-03-9qL; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:45:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhZ7u-3ReVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:45:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhZ7q-0003ko-Dv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:45:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F06CC839A17; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26566-06; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A626839A5A; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8157839A27 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26502-05 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.webfaction.com (mail4.webfaction.com [74.52.233.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78EBA839A24 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from abacus.local (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail4.webfaction.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m33Nj4eH011208 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:45:05 -0500 From: David Boddie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Importing Impression files into OP Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:40:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804040040.18233.david@boddie.org.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 599 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: david@boddie.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qqshAuZ2Zk4A:15 a=RQ-t4615kmAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YwSf5yLX9F-CsK7i1dcA:9 a=X1JgU6txXaC30J5fyJYA:7 a=8eaPYLyqdxFrr5P2AMb0hE-wVzoA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:23:31 +0100, David Pilling wrote: > > It may be possible to take the constituent parts of documents stored in > > the old-style directory format and put them together to make a new-style > > single file document. > > There's a good chance that Impression itself wouldn't read these > > reconstituted documents, but Ovation Pro might be able to. > > I suppose I could answer that by looking at the source code of the > Impression filter. The two formats must be similar for me to have been able > to load both using the same piece of code. However since you can load > directory format documents already what would be the point turning them > into files. OK, I thought there was some problem with loading directory format documents into the Windows version of Ovation Pro. > If you want something to worry about... my filter only loads the latest > (last) Impression file format. There are older formats. > > Given the way things went, about 4 years development during which the file > format changed and then 16 years in which nothing happened, most stuff is > in the last format. I have a feeling that there are probably many documents in older formats that aren't publically available now, but may need to be read at some point in the future. Certainly, I found it difficult to find examples of Impression Junior documents online. > 5000 years hence are archaeologists going to pick through all this stuff > the way they do through shopping lists written on cuniform clay tablets in > 3000BC. The messages in this mailing list or the documents themselves? ;-) David To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:11 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhZXc-3g7Vbs-04-9Qd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:58:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhZXc-3g7Vbs-04-9Qd; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:12:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhZXc-3g7Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:12:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhZXb-00019w-DH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:12:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6ED46839A96; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30027-03; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 01887839B1D; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:11:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3771839AD4 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29857-06 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.webfaction.com (mail4.webfaction.com [74.52.233.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 523CC839A24 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from abacus.local (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail4.webfaction.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m33MeJfP021074 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:40:21 -0500 From: David Boddie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Importing Impression files into OP Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:40:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804040040.18233.david@boddie.org.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 600 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: david@boddie.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qqshAuZ2Zk4A:15 a=RQ-t4615kmAA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YwSf5yLX9F-CsK7i1dcA:9 a=X1JgU6txXaC30J5fyJYA:7 a=8eaPYLyqdxFrr5P2AMb0hE-wVzoA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:23:31 +0100, David Pilling wrote: > > It may be possible to take the constituent parts of documents stored in > > the old-style directory format and put them together to make a new-style > > single file document. > > There's a good chance that Impression itself wouldn't read these > > reconstituted documents, but Ovation Pro might be able to. > > I suppose I could answer that by looking at the source code of the > Impression filter. The two formats must be similar for me to have been able > to load both using the same piece of code. However since you can load > directory format documents already what would be the point turning them > into files. OK, I thought there was some problem with loading directory format documents into the Windows version of Ovation Pro. > If you want something to worry about... my filter only loads the latest > (last) Impression file format. There are older formats. > > Given the way things went, about 4 years development during which the file > format changed and then 16 years in which nothing happened, most stuff is > in the last format. I have a feeling that there are probably many documents in older formats that aren't publically available now, but may need to be read at some point in the future. Certainly, I found it difficult to find examples of Impression Junior documents online. > 5000 years hence are archaeologists going to pick through all this stuff > the way they do through shopping lists written on cuniform clay tablets in > 3000BC. The messages in this mailing list or the documents themselves? ;-) David To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:16 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhfFN-1cCknw-04-CFO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:58:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhfFN-1cCknw-04-CFO; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:17:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhfFN-1cCknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:17:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhfFN-0002r8-30 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:17:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6E1F7838CF5; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24951-03; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0816F8385E6; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:17:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C1188377B0 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24600-05 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 05867837119 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080404061954.KZYP28015.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:19:54 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.169.32]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080404061711.EGJL29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:17:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan windows To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: <866f9b8a4f.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 601 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=k8bjYWhUSksA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=AK6OCGCcvMK2gaE6rUoA:9 a=yhkBx1l4zz3MD3c0uB8A:7 a=FZ8C9bqz_7-XM_k95FgYwSGLOCgA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] I would like to get a copy of DScan for Windows. How much does it cost etc, Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 12:27:14 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jhjzy-3Jjknw-05-G1J.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:27:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jhjzy-3Jjknw-05-G1J; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:22:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jhjzy-3Jjknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:22:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jhjzy-0000Jd-ET for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:22:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7310839274; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14756-08; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A2C3839323; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:21:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 977D3839274 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14599-01 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 613CC839145 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhjz8-0001eI-5t for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:21:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:19:44 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan windows References: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 602 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Rk8O1tkGKpcA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=b2Y7xmKFXEJAUWtka1IA:7 a=ZU9nNquTL43vbKGwuNkelrOhsUsA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] In message <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett writes >When loading DPScan I get an error message 'The specified colour >management module is invalid (select CMM)(1010)'. >I have tried changing the module in colour management with no result, >changing anything in the colour management window has not effect, so I >cannot select my printer or scanner etc. >Stuck with LCMS and monitor and printer profiles as supplied. >The version is 1.24 and using it on a Vista Home Premium Windows computer. ISTR this problem came up in the past (search the mail list archives) and I fixed it (get the latest version of the web site). However bugs have a habit of coming back (maybe it still goes wrong). What you need to do is change the module, then go to choices and save, then reload the program. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 12:27:15 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jhk1I-35Tknw-06-Fzz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:27:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jhk1I-35Tknw-06-Fzz; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:23:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jhk1I-35Tknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:23:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jhk1I-0007kv-4h for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:23:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 010DF839067; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14920-09; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9574D8391C7; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:22:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ACB8C8390B3 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14800-08 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C34B8378E8 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhk0U-0002aQ-6x for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:22:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:21:44 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan windows References: <47F54A72.8010904@internode.on.net> <866f9b8a4f.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <866f9b8a4f.alan@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 603 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6uSRrY-08V4A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=GSsPdyyNAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=Xnt3o5o5KXbTTMXKLA4A:7 a=Itk3rRFBXE2GtWJOmGVpvmX7hLAA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] In message <866f9b8a4f.alan@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton writes >I would like to get a copy of DScan for Windows. How much does it cost >etc, Look here: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/software.html In other words it is on the Ovation Pro for Windows CD. ISTR that the latest version at the above web address does not force you to have Ovation Pro for Windows installed to run it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:29:50 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhsNU-20AVbs-06-GAJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:29:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhsNU-20AVbs-06-GAJ; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:19:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhsNU-20AVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:19:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhsNQ-0006yM-M4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:19:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA435839C86; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29542-06; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62D5F839C27; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04682839C86 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29437-05 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8B66839C7F for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhq85-000N36-Be for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:55:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:55:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Text flow Message-ID: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w_bbr9hX5g4A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eHERnSxO_sjqIOh3jtkA:9 a=xz44RjzTup8IzDYaCb4A:7 a=PlOTkMlotuOvcVSomK4AhdcPOuAA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] Hello All. Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the text to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image courtesy of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine I cannot get it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to turn on its side, but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's going to be a really silly thing- but a little help would be great! Many thanks in advance! Louie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:29:50 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhsQx-2ZJVbs-07-G6q.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:29:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhsQx-2ZJVbs-07-G6q; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:22:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhsQx-2ZJVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:22:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhsLQ-0005j8-V9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:19:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA435839C86; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29542-06; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62D5F839C27; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04682839C86 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29437-05 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8B66839C7F for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhq85-000N36-Be for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:55:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:55:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Text flow Message-ID: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w_bbr9hX5g4A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eHERnSxO_sjqIOh3jtkA:9 a=xz44RjzTup8IzDYaCb4A:7 a=PlOTkMlotuOvcVSomK4AhdcPOuAA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] Hello All. Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the text to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image courtesy of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine I cannot get it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to turn on its side, but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's going to be a really silly thing- but a little help would be great! Many thanks in advance! Louie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:44:51 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jhsk2-0OVGPo-04-Fnl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:44:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jhsk2-0OVGPo-04-Fnl; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jhsk2-0OVGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jhsk2-0007gK-8D for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4FF383A165; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17367-03; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 465C983A12D; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:41:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 677F383A165 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17277-03 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 34D6083A132 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JhsjN-0005YT-6r for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:41:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:40:18 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6uSRrY-08V4A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xJFbNdml4Vr7DTZdnewA:9 a=ZIlJIGPJ062PCJUAD9MA:7 a=FQ7j9mRBwjPpeHRJfXHqdGl6ORwA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] In message <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Louie writes >Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the text >to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image courtesy >of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine I cannot get >it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to turn on its side, >but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's going to be a really >silly thing- but a little help would be great! Create a frame, type in the text, then turn the text sideways - i.e. rotate it by 90 degrees. The other thing you can do in OP, is select text, then from text effects rotate each character by 90 degrees. Which I've always thought would be useful for languages than go up/down rather than left/right. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:59:51 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jhspw-02vGPo-08-Fhr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:59:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jhspw-02vGPo-08-Fhr; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jhspw-02vGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhsoQ-000168-Fg for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1499F83A230; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01929-01; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F5F483A169; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:30:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 90C3C83A13C for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01594-05-4 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93B0D83A07A for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhqg3-000Lfu-7I for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:30:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:30:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow Message-ID: <4f8ade9acclouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3839dd8a4f.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> <3839dd8a4f.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 606 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sfSRVSGdv_YA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2yXdjiHXNWGL85lVA10A:9 a=FUAMzVd9yq_gVIFMKnMA:7 a=E7KHNLXUmcfbbf8rofVd7jPFYMUA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] In article <3839dd8a4f.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey wrote: > Louie wrote: > > Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the > > text to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image > > courtesy of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine > > I cannot get it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to > > turn on its side, but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's > > going to be a really silly thing- but a little help would be great! > > Many thanks in advance! > > Louie > o Make a new OvPro frame with the desired text in > o Click the 5th icon down on the left hand side > o Click 90 degree (or whatever) icon on the bottom toolbar > o Click the top icon on the left side > o Adjust size and drag to position... > Hope that's what you mean... Yes it is- fantastic! Thanks very much! Louie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:59:51 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jhspz-0stGPo-05-Fho.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:59:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jhspz-0stGPo-05-Fho; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jhspz-0stGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhsoT-0004QE-Id for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:48:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5834839DF1; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31982-04; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6709383A0B2; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:15:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8AEF1839DF1 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31841-08 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55E0483A073 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.151.71] (helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JhqRb-0001m4-9F for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:15:19 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:15:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3839dd8a4f.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Plusnet-Relay: 379b37f64b6777e1964a2e11aa0a34f7 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 605 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rEIYZvoYe_oA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BNR9m652JC4Pu1y9PNgA:9 a=Lcl_qukBhBPQlWDpNscA:7 a=uF5rvJeZxejRp2qm72qrd0xKQ48A:4 a=zxxVM3CWV3sA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] Louie wrote: > Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the text > to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image courtesy > of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine I cannot get > it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to turn on its side, > but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's going to be a really > silly thing- but a little help would be great! > Many thanks in advance! > Louie o Make a new OvPro frame with the desired text in o Click the 5th icon down on the left hand side o Click 90 degree (or whatever) icon on the bottom toolbar o Click the top icon on the left side o Adjust size and drag to position... Hope that's what you mean... -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 4 21:59:51 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhsuH-2TlGPo-02-FdW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:59:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhsuH-2TlGPo-02-FdW; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:53:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhsuH-2TlGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:53:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhsuF-0000FM-Rj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:53:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4E2A083996F; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18575-01; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E30CD838F6A; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DA178395D1 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18453-05 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0BE1183858B for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jhsta-0001EI-PO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:52:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:57:52 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow Message-ID: <4f8aec217ejohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.06) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 608 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eVXiJd3QiqoA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=fKTeoBIvAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BNR9m652JC4Pu1y9PNgA:9 a=nsgDhNvlotMeS2_0ydsA:7 a=qi8T6ajHE63sAbJwUpEg2GMS9rQA:4 a=J70dMskYxoEA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.5/1359] On 04 Apr, Louie wrote: > Hello All. > Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the text > to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image courtesy > of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine I cannot get > it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to turn on its side, > but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's going to be a really > silly thing- but a little help would be great! Produce the text in a frame as normal. Click once on rotate and then 90 degrees. -- John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.qercus.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 11:48:56 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JhvhT-1wFknw-03-CqK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:48:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JhvhT-1wFknw-03-CqK; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:52:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JhvhT-1wFknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:52:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JhvhT-0007bE-MO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:52:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 68345839B00; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02942-02; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 05F2D839ADA; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:51:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FB32839B80 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02878-04 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0EE398399D1 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jhvgp-0007Ox-6j for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:51:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:44:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow Message-ID: <4f8afb6daflouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 609 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sfSRVSGdv_YA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eP2lxpXW_7icXRwM6LQA:9 a=WZN00l1M4M0zrbrPLUMA:7 a=uko2cTpblY5X55xnBPr-hRc5rXoA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Louie > writes > >Sorry to bother you, but Paul has nabbed the manual. How can I get the > text > >to actually flow sideways? If I explain; I want to put an 'image > >courtesy of...' in tiny text along the side of an image in the magazine > >I cannot get it to flow sideways- I can get the letters of the text to > >turn on its side, but not get it to actually flow sideways. I know it's > >going to be a really silly thing- but a little help would be great! > Create a frame, type in the text, then turn the text sideways - i.e. > rotate it by 90 degrees. > The other thing you can do in OP, is select text, then from text effects > rotate each character by 90 degrees. Which I've always thought would be > useful for languages than go up/down rather than left/right. Thanks for all your help! It works! Yey! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 12:48:25 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ji6h8-3ncknw-05-ANB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:48:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ji6h8-3ncknw-05-ANB; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:36:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ji6h8-3ncknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:36:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ji6h7-000576-0v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:36:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C9B0839DEC; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14785-08; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B3EFF83A01F; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:35:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 632E1839DEC for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14617-03 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECECB839C9E for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Ji6gO-000Hjo-37 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:35:41 +0000 Message-ID: <9G1V4nAUO29HFwo1@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:33:40 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mOIzrbbs7eEA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=aY0MYFFyMnPQpgEqFwcA:7 a=a4EKbgJB7Ksrhy2XMepVKNtfNmkA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message , David Pilling writes >Create a frame, type in the text, then turn the text sideways - i.e. >rotate it by 90 degrees. What I meant, was turn the text *frame* sideways - sorry, but I'm sure you got the message from the other contributions. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Subject: [softwarelist] How do I get TransFSI to work? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: f9ae88112d94ca3a5a315349aaf0042a X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 611 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oZ8vtQsKjSMA:15 a=iS5dxFl4U3sA:10 a=aE6L0csdNeYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VdoIQq03l6PoNe1ruJEA:9 a=cpZUjx7kba0PFZmxzg4A:7 a=3xdOs26waYPz0EGaCxIR2_CizJkA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] I am stuck trying to get TransFSI to do what it seems is its purpose. I have found this problem before but today decided to explore a bit. I have TransFSI in the Applets directory inside the RISC OS version of Ovation; it is version 1.01 dated 23 Dec 2002. I have: 1. Created a blank Ovation document. =20 2. Dragged a JPEG file to the Ovation window: nothing appears. =20 3. Converted the JPEG file to Sprite and dragged that to the Ovation window and it appears. The conversion in (3) of JPEG to Sprite was done using DPlngScan, so something is working. If it is relevant, !ChangeFSI is in the main Utilities directory. I am using a Iyonix with RISC OS 5.13. OPro is 2.77. I have put an example JPEG file, a mere 60K, at: http://www.southfarm.plus.com/Manuscripts/Intro-Rulewater-0001.jpg Any suggestions, anyone?=20 --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 13:18:27 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ji7Eo-1ZY005-02-qS5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:18:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ji7Eo-1ZY005-02-qS5; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:11:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ji7Eo-1ZY005-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:11:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ji7Ab-0000vF-S9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:06:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D602839DD0; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17211-10; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC3FB83A173; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:06:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FCAA839DD0 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17158-06 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.talktalk.net (wmsmtp.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.253]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1137983A0DC for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:06:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Path: TTSMTP Received: from host-84-13-78-46.opaltelecom.net.78.13.84.in-addr.arpa (HELO Iyonix.roger.red-squirrel.com) ([84.13.78.46]) by smtp.talktalk.net with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2008 13:06:12 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Roger Foden X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: <772e3f8b4f.roger@roger.red-squirrel.com> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: The Hot Desk User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 612 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: roger@red-squirrel.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IuGHafOEU5IA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gDVRNc2mMCr7s6tQ7_MA:9 a=kjRO0vw2dBaNZosHB7UA:7 a=Hjoxzu14IFHzLPHW3vRlYmDpT2MA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I am stuck trying to get TransFSI to do what it seems is its purpose. I > have found this problem before but today decided to explore a bit. > I have TransFSI in the Applets directory inside the RISC OS version of > Ovation; it is version 1.01 dated 23 Dec 2002. I have: > 1. Created a blank Ovation document. > 2. Dragged a JPEG file to the Ovation window: nothing appears. > 3. Converted the JPEG file to Sprite and dragged that to the Ovation > window and it appears. > The conversion in (3) of JPEG to Sprite was done using DPlngScan, so > something is working. > If it is relevant, !ChangeFSI is in the main Utilities directory. > I am using a Iyonix with RISC OS 5.13. OPro is 2.77. > I have put an example JPEG file, a mere 60K, at: > http://www.southfarm.plus.com/Manuscripts/Intro-Rulewater-0001.jpg > Any suggestions, anyone? I have !TransFSI in !Boot.Resources and !ChangeFSI in Utilities. Iyonix and OvPro exactly as yours. OvPro loads JPEGS when they are dragged into a frame. However ... your file: Intro-Rulewater-0001/jpg (50K) seems to load but is invisible! Loading it into DPingScan and saving as a Sprite gives a file which is a visible image; saving as a JPEG (22K!) gives a file which is a visible image. The problem may be this particular JPEG; and/or where you have put !TransFSI Hope this helps. Roger Foden -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 14:03:28 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ji7tY-1jGVbs-05-9Al.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 14:03:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ji7tY-1jGVbs-05-9Al; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:53:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ji7tY-1jGVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:53:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ji7tX-0006Ga-Da for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:53:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CE93C83951D; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20846-07; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 621EC839874; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:52:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB47E83951D for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20782-03 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 765EB83950A for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Ji7sr-000Eqh-B6 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:52:37 +0000 Message-ID: <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:50:59 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_2kmsH3qG0IA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=P_-ypQ8Mp8UsstJwJBkA:7 a=BXxHiEOc-aT3yEw-bmF6ExKKj0QA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=I2EqgwFF2xUA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Powys-Lybbe writes >I am stuck trying to get TransFSI to do what it seems is its purpose. I >have found this problem before but today decided to explore a bit. > >I have TransFSI in the Applets directory inside the RISC OS version of >Ovation; it is version 1.01 dated 23 Dec 2002. I have: > > 1. Created a blank Ovation document. > > 2. Dragged a JPEG file to the Ovation window: nothing appears. > > 3. Converted the JPEG file to Sprite and dragged that to the Ovation > window and it appears. > >The conversion in (3) of JPEG to Sprite was done using DPlngScan, so >something is working. Hang on... JPEGs are not normally converted, OP renders them direct from inside the document, using the ability of RISC OS to render JPEGs direct. But the abilities of RISC OS are limited, it can't render every JPEG, there are various tools around which can convert a JPEG into a JPEG format which RISC OS can handle. However, you could set things up so that Ovation Pro does not load JPEGs (i.e. tell it that it can't handle them) and configure TransFSI to convert JPEGs to Sprites. I feel this has been discussed once on the mail list, long ago. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 18:18:39 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JiBvl-2W4000-07-Df4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:18:39 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JiBvl-2W4000-07-Df4; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:11:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JiBvl-2W4000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:11:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JiBvl-0004UJ-0X for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:11:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6604F83A3B6; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12438-01; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 03F3B83A36F; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CAB283A1B7 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12318-10 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2C00D83A32F for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JiBv1-0001Xv-JC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:11:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:11:01 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text flow Message-ID: <4f8b5b3276louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9G1V4nAUO29HFwo1@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <4f8adb65e3louie@orpheusmail.co.uk> <9G1V4nAUO29HFwo1@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 614 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TlEFhOTJ_AUA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hZOgCeBHFcDdXyya3ckA:9 a=V767D1aIHl9kM_yAHrgA:7 a=s668zGpeFRNrB_f02c8qRCvqEUgA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In article <9G1V4nAUO29HFwo1@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > In message , David Pilling > writes > >Create a frame, type in the text, then turn the text sideways - i.e. > >rotate it by 90 degrees. > What I meant, was turn the text *frame* sideways - sorry, but I'm sure > you got the message from the other contributions. Yes I did thank you- it's really interesting when you start playing. A useful exercise I found, was to take a page from a magazine (in my case it was generally things like MacWorld), and then try to reproduce them- you learn how to put things in to practice that way! Kind regards Louie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 5 21:03:42 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JiEYW-4CRknw-01-B2J.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:03:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JiEYW-4CRknw-01-B2J; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:00:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JiEYW-4CRknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:00:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JiEYV-0004an-Kk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:00:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DB0C839B62; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25626-10; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98C47839A96; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:59:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA609839B62 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25529-09 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B333839AFF for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JiEXp-0004Iq-Qn for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:59:22 +0100 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:56:37 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: 66031ebba683cc6824aa23481badbeac X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 615 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FziqKtXChhIA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=T56agNuHEioZo0ltdZIA:9 a=JBEjS5GBaPA6Ii6ueO4A:7 a=P2HuuYSqUWJWY7C5tbqcq567mNsA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message of 5 Apr, David Pilling wrote: >=20 > In message <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Powys-Lybbe=20 > writes > >I am stuck trying to get TransFSI to do what it seems is its purpose. = I > >have found this problem before but today decided to explore a bit. > > > >I have TransFSI in the Applets directory inside the RISC OS version of > >Ovation; it is version 1.01 dated 23 Dec 2002. I have: > > > > 1. Created a blank Ovation document. > > > > 2. Dragged a JPEG file to the Ovation window: nothing appears. > > > > 3. Converted the JPEG file to Sprite and dragged that to the Ovation > > window and it appears. > > > >The conversion in (3) of JPEG to Sprite was done using DPlngScan, so > >something is working. >=20 > Hang on... >=20 > JPEGs are not normally converted, OP renders them direct from inside th= e=20 > document, using the ability of RISC OS to render JPEGs direct. >=20 > But the abilities of RISC OS are limited, it can't render every JPEG,=20 > there are various tools around which can convert a JPEG into a JPEG=20 > format which RISC OS can handle. >=20 > However, you could set things up so that Ovation Pro does not load JPEG= s=20 > (i.e. tell it that it can't handle them) and configure TransFSI to=20 > convert JPEGs to Sprites. I feel this has been discussed once on the=20 > mail list, long ago. Thanks. I loaded the JPEGS into DPlngScan and saved them with the quality set at 100% so as to lose no definition. They doubled in byte size but saving them as Sprites increased some by a factor of 10, so I was better off. They then all loaded, as JPEGS, straight in into OPro and by reference. They were in fact page pictures from a book and I wished to make a PDF file of them. Loading all the pictures by reference gave an OPro file of only a few k. Curiously, using PDF Print to make the PDF file it ended up at 25% of the size of the sum of the JPEGs, very efficient; there is a very minor degradation in quality at 200% scale. --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 6 14:48:00 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JiVDG-2pVknw-03-BQb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:48:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JiVDG-2pVknw-03-BQb; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:47:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JiVDG-2pVknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:47:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JiVDG-0004dr-Hp for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:47:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED88C8399C3; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23860-10; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86777838F14; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:46:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75A5983A127 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23790-04 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1CB0983A126 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (88-134-52-4-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.52.4]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKxQS-1JiVCa1cMY-0002UT; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:46:32 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:46:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/xADjNkQR+jHbygiNcVBbFYKhuOuDD7r9Nmi2 EOt6DJDjaWDnQPwipJEqCzWlZSx9pAXFxB3UAogTy8eXuMRpJf OAygn3OJnJjmLY7PmHsjbaR48Zhgnch X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 616 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bopzRUJU4NsA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OVmAVbpH0YlzpaeMtyUA:9 a=cGAZ02eMZ1UOVTV8uz8A:7 a=LNPV0HiT_D1qQp-2KjhkHDzJiyMA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Thanks. I loaded the JPEGS into DPlngScan and saved them with the > quality set at 100% so as to lose no definition. This is a common misconception. Even when encoding at 100% you lose definition. In your specific case this is even more annoying because you are also likely to increase file size quite a bit compared to the original JPEG. If you want to convert the JPEG to a format RISC OS understands without loss of quality (and without increasing file size) you need a dedicated tool like JClean that does not uncompress and recompress the JPEG file. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 6 20:18:07 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jia9o-1jlknw-02-F0Z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:18:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jia9o-1jlknw-02-F0Z; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:04:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jia9o-1jlknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:04:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jia9o-0000lc-BV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:04:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BAD9D83A1FD; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23152-05; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5644083A1F7; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:03:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A69FE83A1FD for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23070-02 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 72FE983A1F8 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Jia99-0000Zm-S0 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:03:20 +0100 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:01:08 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: 390f5e201c42043c8afe1236b614e269 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 617 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FziqKtXChhIA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NFMj2O9l7Ffq5MuorGwA:9 a=oUoZci8rHaqewWh_Rp0A:7 a=-8gm97txlxr9VNi7B6pFEeT91LMA:4 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message of 6 Apr, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >=20 > > Thanks. I loaded the JPEGS into DPlngScan and saved them with the > > quality set at 100% so as to lose no definition. >=20 > This is a common misconception. Even when encoding at 100% you lose=20 > definition. In your specific case this is even more annoying because=20 > you are also likely to increase file size quite a bit compared to the=20 > original JPEG. If you want to convert the JPEG to a format RISC OS=20 > understands without loss of quality (and without increasing file size)=20 > you need a dedicated tool like JClean that does not uncompress and=20 > recompress the JPEG file. Aha, been there, done that I thought: I had tried Jclean but found it was not 32-bit so that is why I went to Imagemaster. But I knew you would not have suggested it if it did not work so I managed to find a distribution of JTOOLS which included the vital jpegtran program which I used to substitute for the old one in Jclean. Bingo and the thing worked! Jclean storms through the conversions with the unchanged graphic and marginally (c. 2%) larger file sizes: works well with OPro and prints fine. Thanks. --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 6 21:33:10 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JibKw-4FVknw-06-DpR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:33:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JibKw-4FVknw-06-DpR; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JibKw-4FVknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JibKw-0003CP-9L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B514A838F4F; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29838-07; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 546BF839E2C; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:18:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 840DE8390F9 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29781-06 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3809D83806E for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-148-224.as15444.net [82.163.148.224]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m36KIVCx024209 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:18:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: Ovation Pro Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:20:39 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Dynamic area after O-Pro crash Message-ID: <4f8bf06507john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 618 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CX6Mv6C-B58A:15 a=WQpYc5qq0-IA:10 a=JFKt0HbFuPgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=4RS4yEhqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tuJh6-yk_ACHpZHgYEUA:9 a=Ebbgxc0tGR4t2BNzpOAA:7 a=GXukkUjQ0wAICUS5KgcvOU4vd1sA:4 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] I've run into a series of problems where I do something and O-Pro freezes. I can get out of it with Alt-Break and re-load, but every time I do that O-:Pro grabs another chunk of dynamic memory. It's a large document, so after several goes I run low on memory. I've not tracked down the root cause (I thought it might be the frames with equal radius corners problem, but it hangs when the change doesn't involve such frames. In the mean time it would be handy to get it to release the dynamic area, so I don't have to reboot. Is there an easy way to do that? John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 6 21:48:10 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jiba4-1ixGPo-01-DaJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:48:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jiba4-1ixGPo-01-DaJ; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jiba4-1ixGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jiba3-0005ts-JM for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:35:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F44583A115; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31388-02; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC91E83A21C; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:34:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63BAD83A5D5 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21297-04 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.freeserve.com (smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk [193.252.22.157]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2DDB883A5CD for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DEB76700008B for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:41:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iyonix.orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk (unknown [91.107.108.33]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A00B87000082 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:41:05 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080406184105655.A00B87000082@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.42 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: <40506c8b4f.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.04 (MsgServe/3.35) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 619 X-Approved-By: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CfPK6ElZkIwA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mxMj6X4bkzAbJAifESMA:9 a=mqZja0c3ftNv5KLO2dsA:7 a=xwMVujmDDteJFx7Ss6FI6Dn2BJ8A:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.7/1361] In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 5 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > They then all loaded, as JPEGS, straight in into OPro and by reference. > They were in fact page pictures from a book and I wished to make a PDF > file of them. Loading all the pictures by reference gave an OPro file > of only a few k. Curiously, using PDF Print to make the PDF file it > ended up at 25% of the size of the sum of the JPEGs, very efficient; > there is a very minor degradation in quality at 200% scale. You may wish to hunt down JClean, by J.David Barrow, which removes the extraneous information from JPEGs resulting in a JPEG which will load in RO4, while not altering the picture information - as there is no conversion, there is no chance of a loss of quality. It runs on my Iyonix too, not requiring Aemulor. Sorry, I can't remember where I got it from, but Jess and Jcut were in the same place. Alan -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 12:11:10 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JibqI-0ihVbs-06-DK5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:11:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JibqI-0ihVbs-06-DK5; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:51:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JibqI-0ihVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:51:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JibqI-0003lG-4x for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:51:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F88483996F; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00583-05; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A322839DEE; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:51:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5375583996F for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00492-02 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 210CF8398E5 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jibpc-0000qp-7E for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:51:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:49:54 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Dynamic area after O-Pro crash References: <4f8bf06507john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8bf06507john@jaharrison.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 620 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6uSRrY-08V4A:15 a=ZaBpoMo0HYkA:10 a=NX9Yj8AlML0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=sc2r2jJrAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=sq3KpMshN4eKfKbIrSMA:7 a=SFrWATCyOXkpBSbnlK6-3HYgYBgA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] In message <4f8bf06507john@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison writes >I've not tracked down the root cause (I thought it might be the frames with >equal radius corners problem, but it hangs when the change doesn't involve >such frames. In the mean time it would be handy to get it to release the >dynamic area, so I don't have to reboot. Is there an easy way to do that? See: http://www.sbellon.de/sw-tools.html (Stefan Belon saves the day by supplying a small utility to kill dynamic areas) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 12:11:20 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JimYm-0et000-01-B87.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:11:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JimYm-0et000-01-B87; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:18:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JimYm-0et000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:18:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JimYj-0001mi-Lf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:18:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15C66839B65; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18813-06; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A77E3839B16; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:17:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7162A839761 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18731-05 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.adsl24.co.uk (pluto.adsl24.co.uk [84.234.17.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FB5D83971B for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.32.69.229] (helo=Iyonix) by pluto.adsl24.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JimY3-0008Sw-WA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:17:52 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Brian Howlett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:08:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - pluto.adsl24.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianhowlett.me.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 621 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7QFNe3uAhSkA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=CNIwVarFziSmMohcVTcA:9 a=cmPFnjBypixTa7GnmSEA:7 a=HvT2ND7_D68yeBVL-ezQV6X8IYYA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] On 6 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I managed to find a distribution of JTOOLS which included the vital > jpegtran program which I used to substitute for the old one in Jclean. URL, please? -- Brian Howlett ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mobile phones - the only topic of discussion where men boast about how *small* theirs is... To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 12:11:21 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JimlT-0sU000-06-AvQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:11:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JimlT-0sU000-06-AvQ; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:31:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JimlT-0sU000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:31:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JimlT-0000Og-9U for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:31:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BAB08839DD5; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19553-02; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CE31839D13; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:31:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3D850839DD5 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19410-07 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E61B7839D13 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-146-112.as15444.net [82.163.146.112]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m378UpsT003090 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:30:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:38:37 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Dynamic area after O-Pro crash Message-ID: <4f8bf7885cjohn@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4f8bf06507john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 622 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=reRZ9STX2VEA:15 a=ZaBpoMo0HYkA:10 a=NX9Yj8AlML0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=4RS4yEhqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=iROMStROWD0Bq3USIrYA:9 a=hXn5Xez9Mh0NJ4KLKJwA:7 a=dz4VMXhqkeZDh9RlVqBZo8q4e4IA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] In article , David Pilling wrote: > (Stefan Belon saves the day by supplying a small utility to kill dynamic > areas) Thanks. -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 12:11:26 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JinxR-0B5knw-03-9jS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:11:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JinxR-0B5knw-03-9jS; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JinxR-0B5knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JinxL-0003Ws-Ve for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C5EA83962A; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24599-07; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 09C198395B7; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:47:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6B3483962A for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24281-08 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0EC0839624 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Jinwe-0002OF-VP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:47:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:42:47 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: af9facee99fa027d673f4304817a10a8 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oZ8vtQsKjSMA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gRJnyNHOAAAA:8 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XeiKFG0yaWUC3NlSKSEA:9 a=ehrwGAZYydi0zkWvQI8A:7 a=1RUUzS1P1jzwzXmOlQ2pvZEDXowA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] In message of 7 Apr, Brian Howlett wrote: > On 6 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >=20 > > I managed to find a distribution of JTOOLS which included the vital > > jpegtran program which I used to substitute for the old one in > > Jclean. >=20 > URL, please? You want blood? :-) http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/RISCOS/html/software.html --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 17:56:15 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JiuUc-2aN000-06-Bin.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:56:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JiuUc-2aN000-06-Bin; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:46:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JiuUc-2aN000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:46:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JiuUV-0006lO-Dd for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7991783A5A3; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00488-09; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B87683A603; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:45:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A6F883A5A3 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32759-04 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.adsl24.co.uk (pluto.adsl24.co.uk [84.234.17.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37AAD83A59F for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.32.69.229] (helo=Iyonix) by pluto.adsl24.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JiuTe-0002lf-2s for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:45:50 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Brian Howlett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <784c608c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 X-Computer: Iyonix Panther MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - pluto.adsl24.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianhowlett.me.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 624 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: brian.groups@brianhowlett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7QFNe3uAhSkA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gRJnyNHOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Lv0yhcZ4a0XeZkbPFFMA:9 a=6AyGkxyZ8dBLcPSiQFIA:7 a=doQ9qGR_6g_M9KW_YUi4xmkOOboA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] On 7 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 7 Apr, Brian Howlett > wrote: >> On 6 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >> >>> I managed to find a distribution of JTOOLS which included the vital >>> jpegtran program which I used to substitute for the old one in >>> Jclean. >> >> URL, please? > You want blood? :-) Not thirsty right now, thanks... > http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/RISCOS/html/software.html Thanks, that's saved me a few seconds of Google-ing ;) -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------------------------- Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed... To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 7 17:56:15 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JiuVy-2g0000-08-BhR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:56:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JiuVy-2g0000-08-BhR; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:48:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JiuVy-2g0000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:48:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JiuVx-0001TV-CT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:48:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02CDF839AF9; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00924-04; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99274839A3B; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48C13838EB2 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00603-09 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.32]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB32183A5DE for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 53731221/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/195.137.110.177 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 195.137.110.177 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: briancarroll@f2s.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsPANDs+UfDiW6x/2dsb2JhbACBQKkB X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net (HELO wallace.) ([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2008 17:46:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:30:57 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: <4f8c5436f9briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sZkF4KEAk9MA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gRJnyNHOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6K8V3RaaNpoQMsXa7p4A:9 a=47yfLuV5C4OZeRQ-KKEA:7 a=uO18VXd6wFL7nmP_WV2AmNFkybUA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=hCNgsXmmqS4A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.8/1363] In article <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 7 Apr, Brian Howlett > wrote: > > On 6 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > > > > I managed to find a distribution of JTOOLS which included > > > the vital jpegtran program which I used to substitute for > > > the old one in Jclean. > > > > URL, please? > You want blood? :-) > http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/RISCOS/html/software.html Some interesting things there, but I'd like to know who owns the site; the home page gets directed into a non existent page. Any ideas? Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 8 12:09:18 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jiz0l-0H9000-08-FjA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:09:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jiz0l-0H9000-08-FjA; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:36:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jiz0l-0H9000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:36:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jiz0f-0006Uo-O4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:36:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF33083ADFA; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08602-02; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 832F083C76B; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61C3783B370 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08161-05-26 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.215]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E227183BD12 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JiyyM-00085q-Q7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:33:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:29:23 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: <1e867a8c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <4f8c5436f9briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <4f8c5436f9briancarroll@f2s.com> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: b074b88ee603d2ce7bc0610d5f3e69a1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 626 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mOp9RvQzXPAA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gRJnyNHOAAAA:8 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0Yk05rFgO7bBPdRO08MA:9 a=rOVnsamgShLgAQXyXkMA:7 a=0n9JEREI6IqqYcpSXzBYq_oHcvIA:4 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.9/1365] In message of 7 Apr, Brian Carroll wrote: > > http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/RISCOS/html/software.html >=20 > Some interesting things there, but I'd like to know who owns the > site; the home page gets directed into a non existent page. Any > ideas? Try this (it is an oddly designed site): http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/html/ --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 8 12:09:34 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jj9x4-0KYVbs-07-DJN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:09:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jj9x4-0KYVbs-07-DJN; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:17:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jj9x4-0KYVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:17:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jj9wx-0003mm-T9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:17:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4AAD83CDF7; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32658-02; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 540B483CDD6; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:43:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 654C883CDD7 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32448-07 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5410883CD1E for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:38:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 89864680/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/195.137.110.177 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 195.137.110.177 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: briancarroll@f2s.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucHAMbL+kfDiW6x/2dsb2JhbACBQKly X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net (HELO wallace.) ([195.137.110.177]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2008 09:38:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:35:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How do I get TransFSI to work? Message-ID: <4f8cb77f87briancarroll@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <1e867a8c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <9d3c3c8b4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <$3cFkNBzW39HFw60@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4334318c4f.Brian@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk> <2cd5398c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <4f8c5436f9briancarroll@f2s.com> <1e867a8c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 627 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: briancarroll@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F5e_gk_bZdMA:15 a=Z_tsMr2kNc4A:10 a=lqZsGeGyW5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gRJnyNHOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VWIhmY0bqxHAbrc_92AA:9 a=owscIkd9caLNqftOW08A:7 a=mC89mpB1Y4E-r_2KsuLxQYyUoGgA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=kLgHpDIjQkwA:10 a=hCNgsXmmqS4A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.9/1365] In article <1e867a8c4f.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 7 Apr, Brian Carroll > wrote: > > > http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/RISCOS/html/software.html > > > > Some interesting things there, but I'd like to know who owns > > the site; the home page gets directed into a non existent > > page. Any ideas? > Try this (it is an oddly designed site): > http://www.beyondthought.co.uk/html/ It certainly is odd; but perhaps because the site is still under construction. Thanks for the link. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 13:08:26 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JkeQB-2cr000-08-Ebw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:08:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JkeQB-2cr000-08-Ebw; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:01:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JkeQB-2cr000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:01:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JkeQ9-0001vj-FT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:01:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E0D8B83F4B5; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04296-04; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8492D83F5F8; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:00:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 482BA83F4B5 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04112-01 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6E5583F49E for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-150-133.as15444.net [82.163.150.133]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m3CC0TtJ010615 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:00:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: Ovation Pro Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:54:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] IndexExamp on run Message-ID: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 628 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MUllqfqXqskA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=4RS4yEhqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WNqJN7BCT2rtdkWUxroA:9 a=9JdZmTedowTKUxQcS-sA:7 a=9TAU-VJZz4YJKbqDDXoEEXHT0ZgA:4 a=R2AIiUby1VoA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] Every time O-Pro (RO) runs, it opens the IndexExamp document, as well as the document I opened. I don't want it, so each time I have to close it. I've suppressed both of the index applets (!IdxPro- and !Index-). I've looked in Choices, and I've looked in the !Run file. But I can't find what is making it appear. Any suggestions? John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 14:23:29 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jkfda-2UKknw-02-DOX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:23:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jkfda-2UKknw-02-DOX; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:19:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jkfda-2UKknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:19:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JkfdZ-0006Dn-LX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 112B883EB34; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09314-10; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A19FE83E36F; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:18:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F032383EB34 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09234-09 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BDF0A83EC75 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jkfcu-000MNN-4Y for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:18:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:17:27 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 629 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Rk8O1tkGKpcA:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=C14fpMoFPMhPSRR9L8UA:7 a=44pP4OSgVTB_YfaToEPjyI9Ukw4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] In message <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison writes >Every time O-Pro (RO) runs, it opens the IndexExamp document, as well as >the document I opened. I don't want it, so each time I have to close it. > >I've suppressed both of the index applets (!IdxPro- and !Index-). I've >looked in Choices, and I've looked in the !Run file. But I can't find what >is making it appear. > >Any suggestions? Yes, OP will run at start up anything in the !OvnPro.AutoRun folder - have a look there. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 16:38:33 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jkhgz-0CG002-02-SOA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:38:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jkhgz-0CG002-02-SOA; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:31:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jkhgz-0CG002-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:31:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jkhbn-0000M2-Bk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1E24F83ECF2; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17302-04; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4CF983F104; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:25:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECD3B83ECF2 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17196-06 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1D3783E82D for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-150-133.as15444.net [82.163.150.133]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m3CFOfm6013482 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:24:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run Message-ID: <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 630 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MUllqfqXqskA:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=4RS4yEhqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wpLNK7_8QFQ5MwzHOQcA:9 a=x_GMOIiL8K-UIHDQIFYA:7 a=7rkFdQBfrRnaOMddcDlc_Mxl0j4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Every time O-Pro (RO) runs, it opens the IndexExamp document... > Yes, OP will run at start up anything in the !OvnPro.AutoRun folder - > have a look there. I didn't think of that. It contains !Choices, !Custom, !Macros, !Menus and !Prefs. None of them contain anything that looks suspicious, and no reference to the offending file . John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 16:53:33 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jkhwq-2nk000-04-B5H.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:53:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jkhwq-2nk000-04-B5H; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:47:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jkhwq-2nk000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:47:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jkhwp-0002eB-JG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:47:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7EBBF83EA23; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18546-07; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24B4583EA06; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8AA7883F578 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18327-08 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58F4D83F588 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jkhw7-0006jI-Mn for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:46:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:44:59 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 631 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=c8BHkLY-c0fw2AcEHkoA:9 a=X3L8zKHzkvMcNzr2LAsA:7 a=diVcYo8iusaiRyQ3-rp4RW7a5U4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] In message <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison writes >In article , > David Pilling wrote: > >> >Every time O-Pro (RO) runs, it opens the IndexExamp document... > >> Yes, OP will run at start up anything in the !OvnPro.AutoRun folder - >> have a look there. > >I didn't think of that. > >It contains !Choices, !Custom, !Macros, !Menus and !Prefs. None of them >contain anything that looks suspicious, and no reference to the offending >file . Or the AutoRun folders in any applets. Put it another way, do a search for any OP documents inside !OvnPro - or better yet, when the index doc is loaded, have a look at where it is located - which you can find from the save box, or perhaps file info. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 16:53:34 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jki0J-45O000-07-B1o.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:53:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jki0J-45O000-07-B1o; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:50:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jki0J-45O000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:50:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jki0J-0004dx-HZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:50:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 163F883EDD4; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19080-05; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9ED783F284; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 737C083EDD4 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18914-08 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 403CD83ED36 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newble.demon.co.uk ([80.176.249.168] helo=iyonix.iyonix) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jkhzf-00027E-PB for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:50:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: P C Newble To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:50:17 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run Message-ID: <4f8eeea88cpeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 632 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lIBcihrleu4A:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=l-6EHfSkc_O1U07JUS8A:9 a=I184tzvQqendpAXVQDQA:7 a=saH0RveizjlKo7XdtFvrAlHrkCkA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] In article , David Pilling wrote: > Put it another way, do a search for any OP documents inside > !OvnPro - or better yet, when the index doc is loaded, have a > look at where it is located - which you can find from the > save box, or perhaps file info. . . . or just adjust-click on the close icon of the document window, to open the parent directory. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 12 21:38:43 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JkmOx-26QGPo-07-F9g.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:38:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JkmOx-26QGPo-07-F9g; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:32:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JkmOx-26QGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:32:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JkmOx-0004fh-11 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:32:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77E1183F654; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08185-10; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B4C383F614; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C17E83F5CC for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08079-05 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A48883F51E for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1JkmOF-0007Qm-PX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:32:00 +0000 Message-ID: <8RqlNkCfvRAIFwtg@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:30:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> <4f8eeea88cpeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <4f8eeea88cpeter@newble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 633 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=A88lJDE-HbyG_zhQivMA:7 a=vQjgJaZ4o_zh79CsD30S5OFnOKgA:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.12/1374] In message <4f8eeea88cpeter@newble.com>, P C Newble writes >In article , David Pilling > wrote: >> !OvnPro - or better yet, when the index doc is loaded, have a >. . . or just adjust-click on the close icon of the document >window, to open the parent directory. Good suggestion - I'd forgotten that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 14 11:43:47 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JknZ3-12v000-06-Dza.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:43:47 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JknZ3-12v000-06-Dza; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:47:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JknZ3-12v000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:47:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JknZ2-0006Nc-87 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:47:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A9E283F779; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15391-04; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1C27683F59A; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:46:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33DFB83F7D7 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15285-06 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD69F83F7D9 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-150-81.as15444.net [82.163.150.81]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m3CLk3TT018636 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:46:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:35:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IndexExamp on run Message-ID: <4f8f0e4093john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4f8ed39612john@jaharrison.me.uk> <4f8eec9f8ejohn@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 634 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gzvqgoxtqTkA:15 a=T6XRyLlc3m8A:10 a=zWSiBkmPm9UA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=4RS4yEhqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Mu75dRKJo5UM3k29omcA:9 a=-jVXxJtCMpfFxeJfFAEA:7 a=OUZrVpcFyXtm1_4deZNTMmWoG0sA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.519 [269.22.13/1376] David Thanks for continued suggestions. > Or the AutoRun folders in any applets. I easn't aware of them either, but there's nothing helpful in any of them. > have a look at where it is located . It is !OvnPro.Applets.IndexExamp I'm not sure why that should make it load, but moving it elsewhere has the desired effect. What is puzzling though is that alongside it was !OvnPro.Applets.ManIdxPro and that wasn't getting run. John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 15 17:01:28 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jlnaf-4PU000-03-Bda.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:01:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jlnaf-4PU000-03-Bda; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:01:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jlnaf-4PU000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:01:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jlnaf-0006gt-KG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:01:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F59D8418A1; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28623-01; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E08A8841993; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA60C8414C1 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28441-05 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6180840B41 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.51.145.120] (helo=rpc) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JlnZm-0004s5-3I for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:00:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:43:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] !Panorama Message-ID: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.06) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 718a632221caa679aedfd50ef0360614 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 635 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hlSCPqjXtJ8A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YnpL3Ssa_K2mE5qi8lEA:9 a=bJWvb1ZyAOEPdVpd_VMA:7 a=ubOren1iD5oTWic8nr0vHGdZ1AEA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=I2EqgwFF2xUA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.22.13/1377] Is !Panorama still available (for RISC OS)? I can see an upgrade on the DP website, but no mention of the application itself. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 15 19:16:34 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JlpVA-18S000-08-9j5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:16:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JlpVA-18S000-08-9j5; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JlpVA-18S000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JlpV9-0003nH-Os for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA56F841279; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13584-06; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C492841558; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B3F0A841279 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13392-07 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70D29840A5F for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JlpUO-0000HE-LS for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:00:44 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Panorama References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 636 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XzNN-llZUjAA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Xm5ZnTvEVTH-3CPRa4cA:9 a=A5F4QMidv_wUWWPZbaIA:7 a=jAqVfJpBkVQIHz0qfC5n6Psb2SgA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.22.13/1377] In message <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com>, Robin Hampshire writes >Is !Panorama still available (for RISC OS)? I can see an upgrade on the DP >website, but no mention of the application itself. Doesn't really compare with Google Earth (etc.)... once, long ago, Panorama (and its predecessor (which I didn't write) WorldMap) seemed quite neat. I've sent you a copy by email FOC. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 23 11:51:43 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JobGY-0OlGPo-03-GyX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:51:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JobGY-0OlGPo-03-GyX; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:27:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JobGY-0OlGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:27:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JobGV-0007YX-I2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:27:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E260C843883; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04866-10; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B02C8444BE; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7424E843883 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04745-10 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21A30843896 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.206.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.206.173] helo=riscpc) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JobFo-0002qC-4d for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:27:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Image display quality in DPlingscan To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dave Barnett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:26:38 +0100 Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.92/6901/Wed Apr 23 06:15:52 2008, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 637 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@davebarnett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8Yuc-o8TwAkA:15 a=K2vu4Cw3U4sA:10 a=9jfXtYuu0B4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=31ZgqLKV1_dbACQhriQA:9 a=Atq59MtdVNALYjgEESsA:7 a=Vldkyni4uhbUQz-NBfbN76V3u0QA:4 a=f3vTY2RCmVgA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.3/1393] If I scan an image, the display quality is sometimes disappointing. If now I drop the saved file into Netsurf, the image is much sharper, it doesn't matter what format is used to save. There is a similar effect with images from other sources. I don't know how images sent across the Web appear. As I sometimes use DPlingscan to change image file types or to change the size or dpi., I would like a more instant view of what to expect. Can I get a better image display? RPC-SA, RISC OS 4.39, RAM 128M, vRAM 1M. DPlingScan 1.24. -- Dave Keep GMT all year To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 23 12:21:04 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jocoo-10E000-01-FQH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:21:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jocoo-10E000-01-FQH; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:07:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jocoo-10E000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:07:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jocoj-0004nW-IU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:07:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F142D843C79; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13421-10; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80391844222; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:06:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0F4F843C79 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13351-02 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 928FE8438FC for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Joco3-00031n-OO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:06:31 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:05:00 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 638 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=vdkGqR225ttnmWwXDrMA:7 a=QhZQzsmHI6apjgZiEUnLniC_mE8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.3/1393] In message , Dave Barnett writes >If I scan an image, the display quality is sometimes disappointing. >If now I drop the saved file into Netsurf, the image is much sharper, >it doesn't matter what format is used to save. There is a similar >effect with images from other sources. I don't know how images sent >across the Web appear. > >As I sometimes use DPlingscan to change image file types or to change >the size or dpi., I would like a more instant view of what to expect. >Can I get a better image display? > >RPC-SA, RISC OS 4.39, RAM 128M, vRAM 1M. DPlingScan 1.24. You get the best image quality by selecting the Magnify tool and clicking on "rational". (Or set the dpi values on the info palette to 90 and press return). Yes images don't always appear on screen as good as they can look, or as good as they actually are. This is true of DPScan but also happens in other programs. All I can suggest as a quick check, is in DPScan (on RISC OS) use the Edit->Scale facility and set the destination to 90 dpi, you can undo out of this. With on screen display there is a trade off between how fast the display is and how good the quality. You can see that the DPScan scale function takes some time. It is possible of course to have some sort of clever scheme that uses fast rendering immediately and then if the image is visible for long enough a better scaling and rendering. Sorry to say this is yet another feature that didn't get done. JPEG being a "lossy" format can degrade your images, all other formats are "loss less" so you get out exactly what you put in. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 12:04:40 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Joh0f-4RRknw-06-BEQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:04:40 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Joh0f-4RRknw-06-BEQ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:35:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Joh0f-4RRknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:35:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Joh0d-0000NS-RY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:35:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22624844E83; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18192-09; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 990D9844E06; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF159843791 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18082-03 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 001E6844E8D for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.206.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.206.173] helo=riscpc) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JogzN-0005vm-EY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:34:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dave Barnett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:34:06 +0100 Message-ID: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 639 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@davebarnett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qj5FD6p1yFIA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TJpVlGJg3U_5nWV7HpwA:9 a=Xru4SnKj9VnMZTR18ncA:7 a=K0QOrhRTUnos7HelYIxJIFvRBLoA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In a recent message David Pilling wrote: > In message , Dave Barnett > writes ... >> >>As I sometimes use DPlingscan to change image file types or to change >>the size or dpi., I would like a more instant view of what to expect. >>Can I get a better image display? >> >>RPC-SA, RISC OS 4.39, RAM 128M, vRAM 1M. DPlingScan 1.24. > You get the best image quality by selecting the Magnify tool and > clicking on "rational". Thanks, I'll try that. > All I can suggest as a quick check, is in DPScan (on RISC OS) use the > Edit->Scale facility and set the destination to 90 dpi, you can undo out > of this. > With on screen display there is a trade off between how fast the display > is and how good the quality. You can see that the DPScan scale function > takes some time. Indeed. > JPEG being a "lossy" format can degrade your images, all other formats > are "loss less" so you get out exactly what you put in. Noticed that, I avoid it if at all possible. If only sites offering downloadable images of text would do the same. I find PNG gives reasonable compression and good quality. Despite all that, a correspondent in OZ complimented me on the quality of the software that I had used to scan a page of print with a small font size. I'll now go and have another try at scanning some family trees that I found in an old book. (Hint: Be careful not to trap the edges of fragile pages between the glass and the edge of the scanner frame. I have tried to fill the gap on mine with varnish.) -- Dave Keep GMT all year To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 12:04:44 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JoiJT-0KJ000-03-9vc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:04:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JoiJT-0KJ000-03-9vc; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JoiJT-0KJ000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JoiJS-0006rQ-9u for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 95B3C843830; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29313-08; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FFE4844C70; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:58:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A6A4844BDB for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29268-02 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A5828843CFE for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JoiIZ-0001Tw-Ij for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:58:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:55:04 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Plusnet-Relay: 4c91c1726da32b9771eb037417de9726 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 640 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YXtkC2_AhokA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=m4UI-tbToObiYUJUFsQA:9 a=x3vjCT_R1G2XC0qnBKIA:7 a=VECDnkClw-TVvl0RFdIv-85D-T8A:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In message of 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: > I'll now go and have another try at scanning some family=20 > trees that I found in an old book. I have taken several hints from a company, now dormant, called ArchiveCDBooks. They scanned loads of old books, many with family trees. They achieved very readable and relatively small files using their overhead book scanner. They probably had superior software to clean up the images. But I have found that the better part of their results can use achieved with Imagemaster (call a spade a spade) by following their practices: (a) scan at 200 dots per inch, (b) scan in black and white. You may have to adjust the brightness for difficult documents and very difficult ones will have to go to grey-scale. I use no error correction. --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 12:04:45 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Joit6-1Bo000-08-9Lz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:04:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Joit6-1Bo000-08-9Lz; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Joit6-1Bo000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Joit6-0003XB-2K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6544E842EBD; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02430-05; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EC077843D2C; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0E26842EBD for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02286-06 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F7E88437A2 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.206.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.206.173] helo=riscpc) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoisQ-0003TW-P2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:35:27 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dave Barnett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 641 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@davebarnett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qj5FD6p1yFIA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wWkJhxqq-8HcsAEpHIkA:9 a=6wkJ8jAWE47j1m5xtrUA:7 a=hzxH5hc4A1YDYhZlX7Wpdoim56AA:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In a recent message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: >> I'll now go and have another try at scanning some family >> trees that I found in an old book. > I have taken several hints from a company, now dormant, called > ArchiveCDBooks. They scanned loads of old books, many with family > trees. They achieved very readable and relatively small files using > their overhead book scanner. They probably had superior software to > clean up the images. They did indeed. I have bought some of their CDs. Somewhere on their site they had a description of their process. They did a straightforward cleanup (that is an oxymoron in this context) and then a selective expansion to overcome the curvature of the page at the spine (custom software, I don't think it is released commercially). A searchable index was produced where the original pages were good enough for OCR. > But I have found that the better part of their > results can use achieved with Imagemaster (call a spade a spade) by > following their practices: > > (a) scan at 200 dots per inch, > (b) scan in black and white. > You may have to adjust the brightness for difficult documents and very > difficult ones will have to go to grey-scale. I find similarly. -- Dave Keep GMT all year To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 20:36:53 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp1Zz-0KB01M-06-C5L2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp1Zz-0KB01M-06-C5L2; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:33:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp1Zz-0KB01M-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:33:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp13I-0004LJ-Pn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:59:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 27A178451F1; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04016-01; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9C492845215; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CEF288451C9 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03927-04 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9E8538451BE for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jp12d-0004Fo-OZ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:59:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:44 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 643 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eSKhwrQRvKUcLa2JsswA:9 a=CseggqmNe4wcQHAbSsgA:7 a=C3OmfQ6ke2UBfkXmYT1zc2YOLC0A:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In message , Tim Powys-Lybbe writes >results can use achieved with Imagemaster (call a spade a spade) by >following their practices: ImageMaster is not a program published by me - it is published by the owners of the trademark "ImageMaster". As you may recall I reached an agreement with the owners of the trademark to stop using the name for my software (and infringing their intellectual property). So if you're talking about DPScan please call it that. Use of the name ImageMaster just causes confusion and risks me being dragged back into legal action. In fact if anyone knows how to delete postings from the freelist web site I'll take out this posting and Tim's. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 20:36:57 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp2vP-0n1000-01-EtE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp2vP-0n1000-01-EtE; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:59:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp2vP-0n1000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:59:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp2vO-0002mz-FD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:59:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02A8A84501C; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21133-02; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83CDC8451DD; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 88F2D84501C for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20975-05 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57E338449E2 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jp2ug-000BuG-B2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:59:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:58:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.06) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 644 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BhlknaGYeSMA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rYRHtQ_N7RsWnUH9rp4A:9 a=l2PK8zBcA-zJ9O1tBFgA:7 a=42NF1LgyU0bljTmQjLy2SrKJALUA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] On 24 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > So if you're talking about DPScan If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip over the bits between the DP and the Scan - and looking at the subject heading I'm not the only one. ;-( -- John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 20:36:57 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp2zW-18i000-07-Ep7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp2zW-18i000-07-Ep7; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:04:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp2zW-18i000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:04:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp2zS-00068p-W7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:04:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B8588450EA; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21491-04; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1536B845276; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4E83B8450EA for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21355-09 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D01B844FCC for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newble.demon.co.uk ([80.176.249.168] helo=iyonix.iyonix) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jp2yR-000DDQ-BW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:02:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: P C Newble To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:02:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 645 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qP80dCvijYQA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XALKHCtBekNsjMGmKYwA:9 a=MU9u71oha-3L2wSZEHUA:7 a=dxvye6vI1CobUfqtE0H-FMj8wfoA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In article <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell wrote: > On 24 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > > So if you're talking about DPScan > If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip > over the bits between the DP and the Scan Me too! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 20:36:59 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp33p-0sz004-03-mqs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp33p-0sz004-03-mqs; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:09:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp33p-0sz004-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:09:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JonV3-00049L-NG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 431CF844B5A; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09054-04; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2A4E844B63; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3872F844B5A for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08721-08 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D7086844AAB for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.68) id 1JonUC-0005di-Mc for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:30:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:22:01 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: <4f94bcb78djohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.06) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 642 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eVXiJd3QiqoA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=E1gv6SbeGUfiDDkxFeoA:9 a=-L3wHuxMugI4vdIysi4A:7 a=MG6qd5_FTXysnllE4qxkD6OjIa8A:4 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] On 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: > In a recent message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > In message of 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: > >> I'll now go and have another try at scanning some family > >> trees that I found in an old book. > > I have taken several hints from a company, now dormant, called > > ArchiveCDBooks. They scanned loads of old books, many with family > > trees. They achieved very readable and relatively small files using > > their overhead book scanner. They probably had superior software to > > clean up the images. > They did indeed. I have bought some of their CDs. Somewhere on their > site they had a description of their process. They did a > straightforward cleanup (that is an oxymoron in this context) and then > a selective expansion to overcome the curvature of the page at the > spine (custom software, I don't think it is released commercially). A > searchable index was produced where the original pages were good > enough for OCR. Better would have been to use a purpose-made scanner. I've only ever seen one (at Manchester Metropolitan University library) and it has a perspex right-angle edge. The book is placed on the right angle with one page flat horizontal and the other dangling vertical. The scanner works to within a couple of millimetres of the edge and the scanned page is completely flat - so no distortion. NB Scanner for photocopying - but the principle is the same. -- John To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 20:37:05 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp4NS-20Gknw-03-DRB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:37:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp4NS-20Gknw-03-DRB; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:32:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp4NS-20Gknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:32:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp4NM-0006Lo-9n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:32:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81DC08452A3; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02229-04; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0FFB2845472; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5198E8452A3 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02099-04 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 202788438C7 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.206.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.206.173] helo=riscpc) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jp4Mg-000884-Gl for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:32:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dave Barnett X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:31:49 +0100 Message-ID: <117e20954f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.92.1/6921/Thu Apr 24 02:36:30 2008, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 646 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@davebarnett.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=E3ozJAiM7v8A:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TONtQIlvRJQxwl6aLy8A:9 a=usmULDIM7783w7YCLsgA:7 a=uPnpQTPpm2TUjwYoD7fCbYdnGD0A:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In a recent message P C Newble wrote: > In article <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell > wrote: >> On 24 Apr, David Pilling wrote: >>> So if you're talking about DPScan >> If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip >> over the bits between the DP and the Scan > Me too! Sorry to cause confusion by introducing a fishy element in the middle of the application name, I looked the iconbar menu and got it wrong :-( Henceforth, I shall call the excellent application DPScan. If there is an update for some real reason, can we please have an amended menu item? -- Dave Keep GMT all year To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Apr 24 21:51:49 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp8Em-2z0000-01-9Zr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:51:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp8Em-2z0000-01-9Zr; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:40:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp8Em-2z0000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:40:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp8Em-0003t5-C2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:40:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD739845635; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08352-01; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 53BFC8454D2; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:39:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A15358454DA for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08202-08 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.87]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DDDD845493 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-37.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) id 1Jp8E5-0001NN-NP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:39:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:38:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 647 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fRgz2N-6AoMA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=6mMN6tbCzwErJbP1BdgA:7 a=8jQ_613lOaaC4W00jg-falaLgoQA:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1395] In message <4f9518494epeter@newble.com>, P C Newble writes >> If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip >> over the bits between the DP and the Scan >Me too! Yes, fair comment, it should have the same name for Win and RISC OS, and the name should be DPScan - but at the time I was desperate for a name that would not result in yet more grief - you're very lucky it didn't end up called "XFGH56123a". -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 25 12:42:19 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp8WI-3nz000-02-9IL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:42:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp8WI-3nz000-02-9IL; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:58:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp8WI-3nz000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:58:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp8WF-0001KB-5Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:58:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2C3C984418B; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11025-10; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC04A844AF0; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:57:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26732844AFC for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10951-09 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9454C844AF3 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so885758uge.37 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.240.12 with SMTP id n12mr10537166ugh.9.1209070651469; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.210.200.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm1039916ugd.6.2008.04.24.13.57.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4810F43A.3050200@ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:57:30 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 648 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Yr88HC3A8fMA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gUCjYJHbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jH7oj-An4ByzvvPmiMIA:9 a=GKJEfJ7HJ3IDQOFS0gcA:7 a=WbBu7zSwjnO8RSAFhUwZsZPB0sIA:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1397] David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f9518494epeter@newble.com>, P C Newble > writes >>> If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip >>> over the bits between the DP and the Scan >> Me too! > > Yes, fair comment, it should have the same name for Win and RISC OS, and > the name should be DPScan - but at the time I was desperate for a name > that would not result in yet more grief - you're very lucky it didn't > end up called "XFGH56123a". As far as I can determine, there is no other software package by that name. But there is: http://dpscan.com/ -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 25 12:42:19 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jp8nO-19cknw-07-91F.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:42:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jp8nO-19cknw-07-91F; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:15:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jp8nO-19cknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:15:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jp8nK-0003Zy-Pb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:15:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F16848451EA; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12641-10; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86CA4845310; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D79588451EA for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12573-07 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 68B5E845233 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080424211835.RWYH17818.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:18:35 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.169.32]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080424212218.CHBK26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:22:18 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:15:23 +0100 Message-ID: <1e743a954f.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> <4810F43A.3050200@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4810F43A.3050200@ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 649 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bHCIZemg8BYA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=gUCjYJHbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PQ4kMLRfZ1pNIdLuU0EA:9 a=T9xt4nDNImbp4gfCwr0A:7 a=0v0bp08RtLWkfTRnFuSf73k0gAEA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1397] In message <4810F43A.3050200@ed.ac.uk> Clive Bonsall wrote: > David Pilling wrote: >> In message <4f9518494epeter@newble.com>, P C Newble >> writes >>>> If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip >>>> over the bits between the DP and the Scan >>> Me too! >> >> Yes, fair comment, it should have the same name for Win and RISC OS, and >> the name should be DPScan - but at the time I was desperate for a name >> that would not result in yet more grief - you're very lucky it didn't >> end up called "XFGH56123a". > As far as I can determine, there is no other software package by that > name. But there is: http://dpscan.com/ Shhh. Keep it quiet, Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 25 13:27:20 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JpMoy-2HOVbs-08-C2h.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:27:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JpMoy-2HOVbs-08-C2h; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:14:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JpMoy-2HOVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:14:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JpMox-0003pV-Kb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:14:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24794844D77; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21500-04; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A579E844DF7; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:13:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 726EF844D77 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21401-03 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net [79.135.125.42]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0555D844D49 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magpieway.net ([87.127.17.194] helo=tony-lx.magpieway.net country=GB ident=tony#pop3*vanderhoff&org) by v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4811cafc.7dba.b2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:13:48 +0100 (envelope-sender ) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:13:45 +0100 From: Tony van der Hoff To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Gemini/2.29f (Qt/3.3.7) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 650 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tony@vanderhoff.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VZW6OwISHcgA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=8D3-GUrwI7aSR2Spnv4A:9 a=4Qh0jzCddc2Db6ivFoUA:7 a=hGItm0VN1lZ3sNz9_7SfjMOkbr4A:4 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=Hqh9-RJoubcA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1397] On 24 Apr at 21:38 David Pilling wrote in message > In message <4f9518494epeter@newble.com>, P C Newble > writes > > > If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip over the > > > bits between the DP and the Scan > > Me too! > > Yes, fair comment, it should have the same name for Win and RISC OS, and > the name should be DPScan - but at the time I was desperate for a name > that would not result in yet more grief - you're very lucky it didn't end > up called "XFGH56123a". > How do you know my bank account number? > -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 25 13:57:21 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JpNMd-00YGPo-06-BV2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:57:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JpNMd-00YGPo-06-BV2; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:49:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JpNMd-00YGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:49:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JpNMV-0005ah-OJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:49:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA7428458E0; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26838-06; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4EF52845826; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E130E8458E0 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26647-04 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8274584559D for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JpNLB-0000WR-2s for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:47:49 +0100 Received: from [82.34.222.136] (helo=Iyonix) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JpNLA-00048c-E7 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:47:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John M Ward To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:46:50 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Message-ID: <4f958fbaa5john@acornusers.org> In-Reply-To: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f9517ea19john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4f9518494epeter@newble.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 651 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@acornusers.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RGSXKegZQdsA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=5JhhAp52AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FZ-WOjjWCYMslc4LlVcA:9 a=wqp8j3y_0L9w7uZ-2-EA:7 a=8NNIRl811APp30X_zxzJt996OeIA:4 a=Hqh9-RJoubcA:10 a=a6GPAEu2-fsA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.523 [269.23.4/1397] In article , Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 24 Apr at 21:38 David Pilling wrote in > message > > In message <4f9518494epeter@newble.com>, P C Newble > > writes > > > > If only it were called DPScan!! For some reason I always trip > > > > over the bits between the DP and the Scan > > > Me too! > > > > Yes, fair comment, it should have the same name for Win and RISC > > OS, and the name should be DPScan That would the right name for a re-launch or significant upgrade, should such an event occur in future. Something to bear in mind, just in case that does happen one day... > > - but at the time I was desperate for a name that would not result > > in yet more grief - you're very lucky it didn't end up called > > "XFGH56123a". > > How do you know my bank account number? Ah! Scanning useful personal documents such as bank statements is *so* easy with "DPScan" :-) -- John Ward in Medway, Kent - using RISC OS since 1987 Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 2 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 27 20:45:38 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqCfV-0iEVbs-04-BLG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:45:38 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqCfV-0iEVbs-04-BLG; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqCfV-0iEVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqCfP-0001GK-Qu for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C3E784842D; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23938-10; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83C4D848445; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6509D84842D for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23782-04 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A3EC848413 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080427193800.SHPP27050.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:38:00 +0100 Received: from JVPC ([81.104.252.203]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20080427193449.BNQR29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@JVPC> for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:34:49 +0100 Message-ID: <45CBFF2FCBB145F29212686A074C5DB2@JVPC> From: "John Vanags" To: References: <105f97944f.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk> <4f94bcb78djohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f94bcb78djohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:34:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 652 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john.vanags@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WEt64XEs_nwA:15 a=ewSW0Qz63TIA:10 a=V1Ys40jLJRQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ulZUbboQwO6IxtxmRfgA:9 a=IBas4ANyVZRq1DWx2p0A:7 a=7X6vfpo9tJRSvnr0QH_xXIjiWRAA:4 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1400] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cartmell" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:22 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Image display quality in DPlingscan > On 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: >> In a recent message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > >> > In message of 23 Apr, Dave Barnett wrote: > >> >> I'll now go and have another try at scanning some family >> >> trees that I found in an old book. > >> > I have taken several hints from a company, now dormant, called >> > ArchiveCDBooks. They scanned loads of old books, many with family >> > trees. They achieved very readable and relatively small files using >> > their overhead book scanner. They probably had superior software to >> > clean up the images. > >> They did indeed. I have bought some of their CDs. Somewhere on their >> site they had a description of their process. They did a >> straightforward cleanup (that is an oxymoron in this context) and then >> a selective expansion to overcome the curvature of the page at the >> spine (custom software, I don't think it is released commercially). A >> searchable index was produced where the original pages were good >> enough for OCR. > > Better would have been to use a purpose-made scanner. I've only ever seen > one > (at Manchester Metropolitan University library) and it has a perspex > right-angle edge. The book is placed on the right angle with one page flat > horizontal and the other dangling vertical. The scanner works to within a > couple of millimetres of the edge and the scanned page is completely > flat - so > no distortion. > > NB Scanner for photocopying - but the principle is the same. > The Plustek OptickBook 3600 enables fragile books to be scanned as described above. This is a USB scanner with drivers for Windows. The Birmingham Central Library (Archives & Heritage) had excellent facilities for scanning books this way. JV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Mon Apr 28 13:04:10 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqRuh-4UpVbs-06-D96.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:04:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqRuh-4UpVbs-06-D96; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:52:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqRuh-4UpVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:52:55 +0000 Received: from [194.93.128.18] (helo=zen.orpheusnet.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqRud-0005zn-HA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:52:55 +0000 Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (dsl213-218-231-113.as15444.net [213.218.231.113]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3SBqYgN019929 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:52:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: !Panorama To: David Pilling From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:46:42 +0100 Message-ID: <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GDSlxhcSDzgA:15 a=rVLputm6g1GECCfWM0qrZA==:17 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=ZiWqk16E57wn5JE8mIIA:9 a=2QFH4J_Eck3f-7oS6EsA:7 a=OXuWjTPMTcCOAz7q6L7UfcTQ4ZgA:4 a=aKkyyf1Tw10A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] On 15 Apr 2008 David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com>, Robin Hampshire > writes >>Is !Panorama still available (for RISC OS)? I can see an upgrade on the DP >>website, but no mention of the application itself. > Doesn't really compare with Google Earth (etc.)... once, long ago, > Panorama (and its predecessor (which I didn't write) WorldMap) seemed > quite neat. > I've sent you a copy by email FOC. Please, Sir, may I have one too? I totally agree about Google Maps, but I have the very noisy Windows laptop on as little as I can. Let me know if I should out money in your hand for Panorama :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 17:04:18 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqVio-0u8GPo-06-9Kz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:04:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqVio-0u8GPo-06-9Kz; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqVio-0u8GPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqVim-00024L-QU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C62A2848B45; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21822-10; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46D73848B7C; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:55:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C376F848B38 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21676-09 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6BBCB848AEA for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (dsl213-218-231-113.as15444.net [213.218.231.113]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3SFtpqI023470 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:55:52 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Panorama To: David Pilling From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:02:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 653 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PrMGt3V9qG8A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RRWeEgd_pvawKPIyVxwA:9 a=Vg8uh8XX7wVGZY7ga80A:7 a=E_wKUuTewZe2dWioogCErKJ61RIA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] On 28 Apr 2008 David Pilling wrote: > In message <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > writes >>Please, Sir, may I have one too? > Yes. I've sent it you. FOC too. Very many thanks, and I'll have fun playing. Thanks also for all the other software that I use; the RISC OS world would be a lot poorer without you, even though I think it exasperates you sometimes! :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 19:19:23 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqXn3-0xRknw-08-FnG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:19:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqXn3-0xRknw-08-FnG; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:09:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqXn3-0xRknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:09:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqXmr-0005aA-UM for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:09:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D107849F08; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01630-09; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1B1184920F; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82AD3849F08 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01495-09 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 812C3849E96 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080428173053.DEIX17818.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:30:53 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.169.32]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080428172950.FLFB17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:29:50 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Panorama To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:27:21 +0100 Message-ID: <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 654 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bHCIZemg8BYA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Do0LIHB7ztoBvZSCfbMA:9 a=0f92kOrvjy_Svf3FoqcA:7 a=vgrF_DKzJEtextuCtrRak3xAEk8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] In message Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 28 Apr 2008 David Pilling wrote: >> In message <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young >> writes >>>Please, Sir, may I have one too? >> Yes. I've sent it you. FOC too. > Very many thanks, and I'll have fun playing. Thanks also for all the > other software that I use; the RISC OS world would be a lot poorer > without you, even though I think it exasperates you sometimes! :-) > With best wishes, David is Mr Superman and we just appreciate him 100% Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 21:34:27 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqZrS-2KiVbs-03-Dir.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:34:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqZrS-2KiVbs-03-Dir; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:22:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqZrS-2KiVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:22:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqZrS-0003bJ-0z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:22:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6499C849E56; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21417-07; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EE65484A7B2; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26E9D849E56 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21191-07 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C122B847E51 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so875459uge.37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.10.18 with SMTP id n18mr5305018ugi.62.1209414084526; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm2371079uga.86.2008.04.28.13.21.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:21:21 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 655 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b16DFHnEOgsA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_PzI-R4NehaLGuPp6nYA:9 a=RTqJpjTbMZlmx0_qSNMA:7 a=46sFggrJTq3eBdzw_l5cqDGNjeMA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the overflow tag. What settings do I need so that I can overlay a text frame anywhere on a picture, so that the text in the frame is always visible? -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 21:49:30 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqaC3-3D5Vbs-03-DOG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:49:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqaC3-3D5Vbs-03-DOG; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:43:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqaC3-3D5Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:43:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqaBx-0002Re-Vc for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:43:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EA1184A0F1; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24968-01; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 23A37847D3E; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0AF8A849277 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24788-09 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pih-relay08.plus.net (pih-relay08.plus.net [212.159.14.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 130B28495D0 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JqaA1-000318-Fh for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:41:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:40:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames Message-ID: <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 0456f979964d0fcf582b325436b23a23 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Zt1KCLUObBQA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_HvYtjj-drl0NhS2USoA:9 a=1Xhtuk2tATrcmaeyMIwA:7 a=3PAuemHtcK_1d6l_PvyfY-seAlUA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] In article <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsall wrote: > I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a > number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, > the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the > overflow tag. > What settings do I need so that I can overlay a text frame anywhere > on a picture, so that the text in the frame is always visible? I don't quite follow. The overflow tag showing in an 'empty' frame indicates that the frame is not big enough for the first line (or char). It usually means that the height of the frame is not enough for the text or character height. Try making the frame a little bigger in the y direction until the text pops in to view, or alternatively make the font size smaller. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 22:04:27 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqaJW-3XzVbs-08-DGn.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:04:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqaJW-3XzVbs-08-DGn; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:51:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqaJW-3XzVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:51:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqaJS-0006bc-GT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:51:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 241EA84A693; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25961-04; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A2D3E84A411; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:49:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66B1784A8EE for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25813-04 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D2D384A5B8 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so881719uge.37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.236.13 with SMTP id j13mr5360544ugh.30.1209415803673; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5sm2353575ugf.8.2008.04.28.13.50.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:50:01 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 657 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XPYnnAUpYGUA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=21FglajCdx_YG48tsNIA:9 a=D00w_san_ic5WgAoz0MA:7 a=cqo0QD43iVFJOku_Y-pBDpifyEkA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=C35D7iIojSgA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk>, > Clive Bonsall wrote: >> I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a >> number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, >> the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the >> overflow tag. > >> What settings do I need so that I can overlay a text frame anywhere >> on a picture, so that the text in the frame is always visible? > > I don't quite follow. The overflow tag showing in an 'empty' frame > indicates that the frame is not big enough for the first line (or > char). It usually means that the height of the frame is not enough > for the text or character height. Try making the frame a little > bigger in the y direction until the text pops in to view, or > alternatively make the font size smaller. Changing the size of the frame makes no difference. I've now worked out the solution ... switch off "lock to grid" in Format Text. -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 28 22:04:28 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqaVp-43vVbs-08-D4U.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:04:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqaVp-43vVbs-08-D4U; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:03:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqaVp-43vVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:03:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqaV2-0006pc-Tf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:03:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9637E84A79B; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29071-03; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 243B684A98B; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:01:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6BAC84A79B for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28665-06 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F5B184A982 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JqaU4-0005Um-0q for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:02:00 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:00:14 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 658 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mOIzrbbs7eEA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WOELZdt7DMWvTA5_CK8A:9 a=K80JyRrABk9IwT3jtf4A:7 a=K3leZRZPTxdNaveRranXt6Begd8A:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.5/1401] In message <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >In article <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk>, > Clive Bonsall wrote: >> I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a >> number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, >> the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the >> overflow tag. >I don't quite follow. The overflow tag showing in an 'empty' frame >indicates that the frame is not big enough for the first line (or >char). It usually means that the height of the frame is not enough >for the text or character height. Try making the frame a little >bigger in the y direction until the text pops in to view, or >alternatively make the font size smaller. Chris is right you get the overflow flag if the text is too big ***for the area of the frame into which text can flow*** that may be less than the size of the frame if there are frames on top of it which repel text. For this sort of job, I often set up a frame with transparent fill, 0 inset, text flow set to none, and justification (vertical of the frame) set to centre, you might also have a text style with justification of centre (horizontal). Having set one up, I can then ALT+SHIFT drag copies where I want on the page. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 11:40:03 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jqapu-0DTGPo-02-CkP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:40:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jqapu-0DTGPo-02-CkP; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:24:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jqapu-0DTGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:24:34 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jqaph-0007gv-FX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:24:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 40ADB84AE37; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30605-09; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CBC4D84AE6F; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C088884AE37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30540-01 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3298B84ACFE for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JqamP-000HSr-In for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:20:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:19:37 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 659 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-MRk_5nSR-IA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=T5b-uAUbmNLQt8T0h54A:7 a=DQFgu_zVHzq6FYSO6-S2A9P16i8A:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] In message <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsall writes >Changing the size of the frame makes no difference. I've now worked out >the solution ... switch off "lock to grid" in Format Text. quite right - I never thought of lock to grid. What you need is a new style just for these text frames. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 11:40:04 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqbKD-2VeGPo-04-CG6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:40:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqbKD-2VeGPo-04-CG6; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:55:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqbKD-2VeGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:55:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqbJt-0004W4-Ba for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:55:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 43AF484B5E2; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01082-07; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BFC6B84B598; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:52:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78B2C849CDE for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00959-06 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DCD2F84B57F for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so895439uge.37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.115.15 with SMTP id s15mr5391979ugm.63.1209419555480; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2420704ugc.60.2008.04.28.14.52.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4816471D.6050203@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:29 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 660 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FH5Nsb5QK88A:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qcVRiKE8q5edxoz6aykA:9 a=OwKPpQJIn2O5D404_7wA:7 a=IktmscJFKxJx4q-hWCwEEq3TAncA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes >> In article <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk>, >> Clive Bonsall wrote: >>> I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a >>> number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, >>> the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the >>> overflow tag. >> I don't quite follow. The overflow tag showing in an 'empty' frame >> indicates that the frame is not big enough for the first line (or >> char). It usually means that the height of the frame is not enough >> for the text or character height. Try making the frame a little >> bigger in the y direction until the text pops in to view, or >> alternatively make the font size smaller. > > Chris is right you get the overflow flag if the text is too big ***for > the area of the frame into which text can flow*** that may be less than > the size of the frame if there are frames on top of it which repel text. I take that point, but there must have been some other interaction going on --- the underlying picture frames all had the same settings (as far as I know). But the overflow tag only appeared (in the overlying text frames, which all had the same dimensions) in 2 out of 8 cases. > For this sort of job, I often set up a frame with transparent fill, 0 > inset, text flow set to none, and justification (vertical of the frame) > set to centre, you might also have a text style with justification of > centre (horizontal). Having set one up, I can then ALT+SHIFT drag copies > where I want on the page. Thanks, that's a good tip. I'd worked out some of it, but not everything. -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 11:40:06 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqbMf-1WoGPo-08-CDe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:40:06 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqbMf-1WoGPo-08-CDe; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:58:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqbMf-1WoGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:58:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqbMb-0000pB-Gn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:58:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7D79484B6B6; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01665-09; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11F3A84B768; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52F3E84B6B6 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01513-08 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F607849FE3 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so896484uge.37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.115.9 with SMTP id s9mr5383267ugm.81.1209419783434; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y1sm2372019uge.39.2008.04.28.14.56.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48164805.1050808@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:56:21 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 661 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FH5Nsb5QK88A:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=8np4JyKWXAOAd5Q9zQMA:9 a=J7Nl2g_20MmatUrV5ywA:7 a=FXjW6P_ACckdk6LhERsJJ_-GzocA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] David Pilling wrote: > In message <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsall > writes >> Changing the size of the frame makes no difference. I've now worked >> out the solution ... switch off "lock to grid" in Format Text. > > quite right - I never thought of lock to grid. > > What you need is a new style just for these text frames. Yes, well, we've had the discussion before about setting up new styles ... but I always seem to forget :-( -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 11:40:12 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JqdbU-2h6000-02-9yp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:40:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JqdbU-2h6000-02-9yp; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JqdbU-2h6000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JqdbT-0005qO-Oo for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C173F84B1A4; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20666-09; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 561D284B168; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:20:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D302184B148 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20442-03 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com (smtp11.dentaku.gol.com [203.216.5.73]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5489084B13F for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with smtp (Dentaku) id 1Jqdai-0000lX-Rb for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:21:04 +0900 Received: from 219.160.110.171 (auth. user plattir@pp.mail.gol.com) by webmail.gol.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:04 +0000 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:04 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.14 (On: webmail.gol.com) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> From: "Ian Platt" Bounce-To: "Ian Platt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 662 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: plattir@gol.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HOL-8iRPoBwA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hpkyOTwiFZW7uhRvCeAA:9 a=QYetH3D-vAPY6_RugeQA:7 a=v8Bou9se7APz_gLy4u5SQ8qh4cAA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] 2008ª®¢´4·«Â28©¡«äª±ªØ¢ð¡Þ¢ðªÂ"Clive Bonsall" ¢ðªÂ\«¡¢Â¼\«³¢ðª³¢ð«²¢ð«³¢ðª²¢Â¡ø >I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a number >(in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, the number >disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the overflow tag. > >What settings do I need so that I can overlay a text frame anywhere on a >picture, so that the text in the frame is always visible? >-- Presumably you're using Ovation Pro (all hail Mr. D. Pilling!!) Is the box you're creating big enough for the text you're trying to enter? Make it big, then reduce the text box till it's as small as possible without giving you the overflow arrow. You can give it a transparent background and change the colour of the number to something that shows up clearly as the standard black often dowes not show well. I've just done what you want with no problems. HTH Ian P To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 11:40:17 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jqk2Z-2fWGPo-07-C4G.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:40:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jqk2Z-2fWGPo-07-C4G; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:14:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jqk2Z-2fWGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:14:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jqk2W-0003Ps-29 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:14:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EC034849F48; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14975-05; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86B32849E30; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B1C6849F48 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14757-06 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A458849F80 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080429071652.MNGZ17818.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:16:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (really [82.28.88.223]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080429072041.VTLF26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.102]> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:20:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:12:56 +0100 From: Ray Dawson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4816471D.6050203@ed.ac.uk> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4816471D.6050203@ed.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org X-Organization: MagRay User-Agent: Gemini/2.29i (Qt/3.3.8) (Windows-Vista) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 663 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ray@raydawson.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=uQG_-MyCCHwA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=pU24aVm4hlJegQDS3mIA:9 a=E1N9X9OkjUKetlzOG-oA:7 a=mlN0Gdz3ViFDprJNXurKyq78FvYA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=955elKCOoL8A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] Clive Bonsall wrote: > > I take that point, but there must have been some other interaction going > on --- the underlying picture frames all had the same settings (as far > as I know). But the overflow tag only appeared (in the overlying text > frames, which all had the same dimensions) in 2 out of 8 cases. > Make sure the graphic frame isn't repelling the text frame on top - which it looks like it is. Cheers, Ray D To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 29 20:42:17 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jqoj1-4BW000-02-FuK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:42:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jqoj1-4BW000-02-FuK; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:14:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jqoj1-4BW000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:14:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jqoj1-0001eE-Gy for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:14:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0EE6C84ABE0; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14628-02; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9CAF984AEB5; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF1F484ABE0 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14483-02 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41E1084A993 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1069082uge.37 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.250.18 with SMTP id x18mr6302202ugh.79.1209471216244; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s8sm2744365uge.3.2008.04.29.05.13.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <481710EE.4080703@ed.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:13:34 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4816471D.6050203@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 664 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FH5Nsb5QK88A:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rQG6iFW1rmu1TfYyR_EA:9 a=ODixVeLXGzLamKaauNEA:7 a=1zrevYnjF3xj_r20ppPsLTQhtC0A:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=QJAqVYndk0IA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.6/1403] Ray Dawson wrote: > Clive Bonsall wrote: > >> I take that point, but there must have been some other interaction going > >> on --- the underlying picture frames all had the same settings (as far >> as I know). But the overflow tag only appeared (in the overlying text >> frames, which all had the same dimensions) in 2 out of 8 cases. >> > Make sure the graphic frame isn't repelling the text frame on top - which > it looks like it is. The question would be - why would only 2 out of 8 graphics frames with identical settings "repel" the overlying text frame? The main problem appears to have been 'lock to grid' for the text. But thanks for the suggestion. -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 2 12:16:36 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JrYp1-25JVbs-06-CQu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 12:16:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JrYp1-25JVbs-06-CQu; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:27:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JrYp1-25JVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:27:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JrYp0-0002Co-Jd for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:27:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 54B5984C056; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10971-06; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C28CF84C14A; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 01 May 2008 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 90B5584C04F for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10585-05-4 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF81C84B352 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 107697747/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$ACCEPTED/pipex-customers/85.210.67.82 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.67.82 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMZhGUhV0kNS/2dsb2JhbACsWw X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 85-210-67-82.dsl.pipex.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([85.210.67.82]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 May 2008 14:26:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 14:26:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Help with imposition Message-ID: <4f98aa67earhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 665 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JCLl0thkTeAA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0wA2q7XUlhWCewf_eWwA:9 a=HPdR406uPIr0oGki77MA:7 a=h9jBQciiBFtVx2_SlPZqLJEDzCIA:4 a=8b0TY1xhFYQA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.7/1411] Can anyone help me with a bit of imposition that I'm having trouble working out whether I can get OvationPro to do for me. I've created an 8 page A5 landscape pamphlet that I want to print double sided onto A3 paper so as to get the folds in the correct places. I believe that means I want to print out to sheets in the form shown below: Sheet 1 Page 8 Page 1 Page 6 Page 3 Sheet 2 (i.e. the back of sheet 1) Page 2 Page 7 Page 4 Page 5 It is a bit like pamphlet mode but I'm assuming that only works with portrait A5 going on to A4 and not landscape A5 pages that need to go onto A3? Can anyone help? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 2 12:16:38 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JrZCs-42BVbs-01-C33.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 12:16:38 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JrZCs-42BVbs-01-C33; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:52:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JrZCs-42BVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:52:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JrZCo-0005EF-MQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 May 2008 13:52:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E643084B7DF; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23547-02-46; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9446384BD08; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 01 May 2008 09:50:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 410BF84B5E4 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23325-03 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7D1184B5D4 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:50:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 72431395/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$ACCEPTED/pipex-customers/85.210.67.82 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.67.82 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHFnGUhV0kNS/2dsb2JhbACsWA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 85-210-67-82.dsl.pipex.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([85.210.67.82]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 May 2008 14:51:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 14:51:24 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Help with imposition Message-ID: <4f98aca848rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4f98aa67earhnews@dsl.pipex.com> References: <4f98aa67earhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 666 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=i2v5GPMqeWEA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Kcf-epajSwtVVbc9pJsA:9 a=cTWxxATwmOaxJdWfuhkA:7 a=kgYo8oPPbbCp4787JOc7UBEh8HEA:4 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.7/1411] Sorry to answer my own post but I've been experimenting further and realised that I could get the effect I needed using the Booklet printing option. I'd forgotten about that! What a useful facility! In article <4f98aa67earhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > Can anyone help me with a bit of imposition that I'm having trouble > working out whether I can get OvationPro to do for me. > I've created an 8 page A5 landscape pamphlet that I want to print double > sided onto A3 paper so as to get the folds in the correct places. I > believe that means I want to print out to sheets in the form shown below: > Sheet 1 > Page 8 Page 1 > Page 6 Page 3 > Sheet 2 (i.e. the back of sheet 1) > Page 2 Page 7 > Page 4 Page 5 > It is a bit like pamphlet mode but I'm assuming that only works with > portrait A5 going on to A4 and not landscape A5 pages that need to go > onto A3? > Can anyone help? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 11:51:02 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JslZP-0KE000-08-EPA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 11:51:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JslZP-0KE000-08-EPA; Sun, 04 May 2008 21:16:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JslZP-0KE000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 04 May 2008 21:16:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JslZP-0001jI-Bh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 04 May 2008 21:16:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 867DB84B550; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27904-07; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A4F684B2A0; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 04 May 2008 17:14:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6EBD484B9F0 for ; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27831-06 for ; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38B0984B8A0 for ; Sun, 4 May 2008 17:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vigay.demon.co.uk ([80.177.103.19] helo=AriaCube) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JslYl-0001az-4d for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 21:15:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Louie To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 22:15:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames Message-ID: <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 667 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: louie@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=j8_cxEQ36LYA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cdF1t1_oltLCzPhgucMA:9 a=xoCPfBvLqR4tIuANUfsA:7 a=rruXD2qjFVj_1Tmfji4y0NpPa0UA:4 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In article <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsall wrote: > Chris Johnson wrote: > > In article <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk>, > > Clive Bonsall wrote: > >> I have a series of picture frames on a page. I want to place a > >> number (in a text frame) on top of each picture. In some cases, > >> the number disappears and I have an "empty" frame with the > >> overflow tag. > > > >> What settings do I need so that I can overlay a text frame anywhere > >> on a picture, so that the text in the frame is always visible? > > > > I don't quite follow. The overflow tag showing in an 'empty' frame > > indicates that the frame is not big enough for the first line (or > > char). It usually means that the height of the frame is not enough > > for the text or character height. Try making the frame a little > > bigger in the y direction until the text pops in to view, or > > alternatively make the font size smaller. > Changing the size of the frame makes no difference. I've now worked out > the solution ... switch off "lock to grid" in Format Text. These will all work, but you may find that it's because the frames for your photos (or something else) are 'invading' the space of the text frame. For instance, if you have one of your photo frames overlapping the text frame, you need to turn the 'text flow' to 'none'. This will mean that the picture does not cause text to wrap around it, and the text in the text frame will be left where you put it. Did that actually make the blind bit of sense?! - Louie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 13:51:05 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JszvZ-3AcVbs-01-8ZW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 13:51:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JszvZ-3AcVbs-01-8ZW; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:36:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JszvZ-3AcVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:36:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JszvZ-0002Sk-4K for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:36:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 124D584C194; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28860-03; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F31C84C284; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4735384C1B1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28694-04 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15D3B84C124 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jszus-0002PX-FC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:35:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:34:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 668 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_ZFMmSwOsckA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=NItLZdW8_BPvw3hgM8MA:7 a=cIPQN9wwz2Z9kX9gm5vXDGc-lU0A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In message <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Louie writes >These will all work, but you may find that it's because the frames for your >photos (or something else) are 'invading' the space of the text frame. For >instance, if you have one of your photo frames overlapping the text frame, >you need to turn the 'text flow' to 'none'. This will mean that the picture >does not cause text to wrap around it, and the text in the text frame will >be left where you put it. > >Did that actually make the blind bit of sense?! Quite right. If you don't want frames to move text in other frames then it is a good idea to set text flow to 'none'. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 13:51:05 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt09V-3lnVbs-03-Gs6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 13:51:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt09V-3lnVbs-03-Gs6; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:50:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt09V-3lnVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:50:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt09U-0000fD-J9 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:50:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94E3684C17D; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30049-05; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A79784C1C3; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 08:49:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4839A84C17D for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29870-04 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF32584C105 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk ([88.202.203.13]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m45CnnCi017143 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 13:49:50 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.42 Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:49:57 +0100 Message-ID: <0b60b69a4f.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.04 (MsgServe/3.35) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 669 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v6ySY3LH3VUA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4DBRpmAFggTISsce0GMA:9 a=JkPoKGxSkl7zJBqC0yQA:7 a=BJq5wzSYyT-WopVa3cR9VIYhixwA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Louie > writes >>These will all work, but you may find that it's because the frames for your >>photos (or something else) are 'invading' the space of the text frame. For >>instance, if you have one of your photo frames overlapping the text frame, >>you need to turn the 'text flow' to 'none'. This will mean that the picture >>does not cause text to wrap around it, and the text in the text frame will >>be left where you put it. >> >>Did that actually make the blind bit of sense?! > Quite right. If you don't want frames to move text in other frames then > it is a good idea to set text flow to 'none'. However I think in this case the OP had a different problem. Apparently the solution was to set "lock to grid" to off. This would mean that the text inside these small frames was being pulled to the nearest grid position, which in some cases meant it was no longer visible. A style with grid-lock off, applied to these captions, would allow them to work without altering the rest of the document's appearance. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 14:06:06 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt0Gp-47OVbs-03-Gkm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:06:06 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt0Gp-47OVbs-03-Gkm; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:58:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt0Gp-47OVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:58:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt0Go-0002W0-U6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 12:58:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E222084C1BF; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30830-08; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5F29C84C1D5; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 08:56:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30E0D84C1BF for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30723-09 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D166084C1B5 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 08:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so34038uge.37 for ; Mon, 05 May 2008 05:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.29.4 with SMTP id g4mr3739065ugj.84.1209992258334; Mon, 05 May 2008 05:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clive-bonsalls-macbook-pro.local ( [90.202.220.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x33sm1126716ugc.32.2008.05.05.05.57.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 May 2008 05:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <481F043C.8060808@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:57:32 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Text frames on top of picture frames References: <4f90798b39robin@brushford.com> <8cbb15974f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9cy1O6BrZcFIFwVq@pilling.demon.co.uk> <87eb34974f.alan@ntlworld.com> <481631C1.3090806@ed.ac.uk> <4f97469c1echris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <48163879.9080508@ed.ac.uk> <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Clive Bonsall X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 670 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Jh1xGCU41fwA:15 a=uC0SqKlirJAA:10 a=giJikqPkzcQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FqY4eIH6jAuhowy-SBcA:9 a=YOq5-ibFZLXesKFLtxEA:7 a=3oXmaM8uimF4GS-nU8NumvN9zukA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] David Pilling wrote: > In message <4f9a60cc0elouie@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Louie > writes >> These will all work, but you may find that it's because the frames for >> your >> photos (or something else) are 'invading' the space of the text frame. >> For >> instance, if you have one of your photo frames overlapping the text >> frame, >> you need to turn the 'text flow' to 'none'. This will mean that the >> picture >> does not cause text to wrap around it, and the text in the text frame >> will >> be left where you put it. >> >> Did that actually make the blind bit of sense?! > > Quite right. If you don't want frames to move text in other frames then > it is a good idea to set text flow to 'none'. True. I believe I did that, but it didn't solve the problem ... switching off "lock to grid" did. -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 19:36:17 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt5Xk-3MCVbs-04-BTr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 19:36:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt5Xk-3MCVbs-04-BTr; Mon, 05 May 2008 18:36:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt5Xk-3MCVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 18:36:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt5Xk-0007Jr-Gk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 18:36:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6313D84C5B1; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04425-09; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFE1B84C527; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 14:34:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7855F84C674 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04375-01 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mxout5.netvision.net.il (mxout5.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.29]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A76084C5B7 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 14:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.bgnet ([89.139.69.20]) by mxout5.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0K0E00LPPRMUJ500@mxout5.netvision.net.il> for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:35:18 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 21:35:17 +0300 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] Import text to Ovation Pro with basic stye information To: davidpilling@freelists.org Message-id: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 671 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mybg@netvision.net.il Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=k8IxhlyBIpEA:15 a=s9LIYu7S5aAA:10 a=BY8LfkBhzmIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=A6QsZlcWxzzqve2ovncA:9 a=D-Ma3ALGkHXfCO2Tp-UA:7 a=6AvnpcsJDatqegYdyTJw9b2gSdMA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] I want to import text to Ovation Pro with basic styles. Something like commands to right or left justify lines of text. Is there any way to do this? I have thought about doing it via Impression DDF, but that is more complicated than I want: To justify just one line I need to do: {justify left}text {justify} The second {justify} command must be on the next line. If I had 3 styles define in OPro, 'left' 'right' and 'centre' and I set them up with 'line' scope and there was some way to embed them into imported text, that would be ideal. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance, Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 21:36:21 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt7Ht-2AKGPo-06-9ji.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 21:36:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt7Ht-2AKGPo-06-9ji; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:27:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt7Ht-2AKGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:27:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt7Ho-0006t7-8b for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:27:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B64B84CD77; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13387-04; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D54BD84D11D; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 15:55:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F0C084D10D for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13290-07 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A57B84CF97 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 15:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jt6m8-00076V-88 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 19:55:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:53:24 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Import text to Ovation Pro with basic stye information References: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 672 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6uSRrY-08V4A:15 a=wBmzslxtH-0A:10 a=ObHGXd_HR84A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=odWoQlP6AAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JLBeGKWx2xYsfsEq1OoA:9 a=EeY0RyMAk-qFesVYJ0UA:7 a=3CdEGSMIIpHFbyIslr0VeHwMm9IA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In message <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon writes >I want to import text to Ovation Pro with basic styles. >Something like commands to right or left justify lines of text. >Is there any way to do this? I have thought about doing it via >Impression DDF, but that is more complicated than I want: I'd think DDF was pretty simple, the other obvious option is OP DDL - mark some text and save it as DDL to get the idea. There is somewhere an HTML import filter. (http://www.heyrick.co.uk/software/ovhtmlwin.html) Plan B would be to use macro commands - look at some of the macro definitions. You could of course write your own filter, whatever format you want in, and OP DDL out. It only has to be a command line program with two arguments - in and out file names. >If I had 3 styles define in OPro, 'left' 'right' and 'centre' and I set >them up with 'line' scope and there was some way to embed them into >imported text, that would be ideal. OP DDL I think would do that, probably the snag is that DDL wants text strings quoting and then things like styles in {}'s {addstyle "bold"} "Hello World" {remstyle "bold"} something like that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 21:51:23 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt7YK-10C000-07-9TH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 21:51:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt7YK-10C000-07-9TH; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:44:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt7YK-10C000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:44:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt7YF-0005ma-OE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:44:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 47BE284D37D; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17439-04; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BA54684C025; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44EEC84C7AC for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17347-02 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mxout5.netvision.net.il (mxout5.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.29]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DB2D184C3B8 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.bgnet ([89.139.69.20]) by mxout5.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0K0E00DZ1XHHTXE0@mxout5.netvision.net.il> for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 23:41:41 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:41:41 +0300 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] Tab settings granularity To: davidpilling@freelists.org Message-id: <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 673 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mybg@netvision.net.il Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=k8IxhlyBIpEA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7G338GsxRKfOJ87hKP0A:9 a=qXLrrSNiW8X1beyfxCAA:7 a=eyhslESDJg_OII-jq_E3q1tK7s0A:4 a=birkmQ2h4YEA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] Is there any way to set tabs at intervals which do not fall on exact millimeter boundaries? I have tried entering a value (say, 41.5mm) in the dialogue box but it gets truncated to 41mm later. Thanks, Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 5 21:51:24 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt7aE-2vHGPo-02-9RN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 21:51:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt7aE-2vHGPo-02-9RN; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:46:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt7aE-2vHGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:46:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt7aB-0000Pu-5c for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BAE1784C7AC; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17941-09; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4045F84D50E; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 16:44:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A0CBD84C7AC for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17836-05 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mxout5.netvision.net.il (mxout5.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.29]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6884F84C025 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.bgnet ([89.139.69.20]) by mxout5.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0K0E00D4CXMATXF0@mxout5.netvision.net.il> for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:34 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:34 +0300 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Import text to Ovation Pro with basic stye information In-reply-to: To: davidpilling@freelists.org Message-id: <481F71B2.7070301@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 674 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mybg@netvision.net.il Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=k8IxhlyBIpEA:15 a=wBmzslxtH-0A:10 a=ObHGXd_HR84A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=odWoQlP6AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=bJMtgawTTMATU1N7krsA:9 a=-L6KFv6fLPEXKhxV3PgA:7 a=zf3l3NwxV-hVUgo6f4OPavr-mKYA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] David Pilling wrote: > In message <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon > writes >> I want to import text to Ovation Pro with basic styles. >> Something like commands to right or left justify lines of text. >> Is there any way to do this? I have thought about doing it via >> Impression DDF, but that is more complicated than I want: > > I'd think DDF was pretty simple, the other obvious option is OP DDL - > mark some text and save it as DDL to get the idea. > > There is somewhere an HTML import filter. > > (http://www.heyrick.co.uk/software/ovhtmlwin.html) > > Plan B would be to use macro commands - look at some of the macro > definitions. > > You could of course write your own filter, whatever format you want > in, and OP DDL out. It only has to be a command line program with two > arguments - in and out file names. > >> If I had 3 styles define in OPro, 'left' 'right' and 'centre' and I >> set them up with 'line' scope and there was some way to embed them >> into imported text, that would be ideal. > > OP DDL I think would do that, probably the snag is that DDL wants text > strings quoting and then things like styles in {}'s > > {addstyle "bold"} "Hello World" {remstyle "bold"} > > something like that. > I was looking for something really simple. I need to export text from a Fireworkz sheet and import it into an OPro template document. I don't want too much stuff cluttering up the spreadsheet as it will make maintenance difficult (the sheet is about 1M big). In the end I think I can manage with just one tab in any line which can then be done neatly with DDL (which at least understands a simple {tab} command. -- Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 6 21:39:32 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt7ms-1Xf000-07-9Ej.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:39:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt7ms-1Xf000-07-9Ej; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt7ms-1Xf000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt7ms-0006Kg-12 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5C4084C778; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19915-10; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 774A184D127; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD5A384D0B7 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19823-03 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8C99B84D04D for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 16:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1Jt7mC-000ESC-8J for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:57:38 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Tab settings granularity References: <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 675 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6uSRrY-08V4A:15 a=GQ2xsTMKaAUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=Tt-6wbkKc-_FMRQzy8kA:7 a=Z20V_TGQsfjXVQnYSt3G4axVVvcA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In message <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon writes >Is there any way to set tabs at intervals which do not fall on exact >millimeter boundaries? I have tried entering a value (say, 41.5mm) in >the dialogue box but it gets truncated to 41mm later. Hmm. that is probably a bug, at some point, someone had the bright idea that tabs should snap to mm boundaries. I think you can set tabs where you want e.g. 49.5 mm, the tab stops there until you select it, when the dialogue snaps it to the nearest mm. So you can set them via the dialogue or DDL. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 6 21:39:34 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt8Ey-2Wq000-04-8md.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:39:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt8Ey-2Wq000-04-8md; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:28:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt8Ey-2Wq000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:28:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt8Et-0000kg-Sq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:28:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 851FE84CEBD; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23260-06; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 10D3584D18C; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 17:27:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 619F184CEBD for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23176-01 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com [213.75.38.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0EB7384CD23 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpsmtp-eml106.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.106]) by cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 May 2008 23:28:07 +0200 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.75.73]) by cpsmtp-eml106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 May 2008 23:28:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:28:42 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Import text to Ovation Pro with basic stye information Message-ID: <4f9ae5de18Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> References: <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2008 21:28:07.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8DEEA10:01C8AEF6] X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 676 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VD7-w-7zdEwA:15 a=wBmzslxtH-0A:10 a=ObHGXd_HR84A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FJlEiPSWUEcJTairtSUA:9 a=ug7ispK82EMIjWVgcxsA:7 a=HIqJRIpkSHrllXHy3MbeNRvi4qUA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] In article <481F5365.3070508@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > If I had 3 styles define in OPro, 'left' 'right' and 'centre' and I set > them up with 'line' scope and there was some way to embed them into > imported text, that would be ideal. DDF is very simple and very effective. For example, if the style that justifies left is called 'left', then you could write: {"left" on}text {"left" off} That's what I'm doing since years and it works a treat. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 6 21:39:37 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Jt8bG-2Gu000-08-Gwr.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:39:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Jt8bG-2Gu000-08-Gwr; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:51:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Jt8bG-2Gu000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:51:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Jt8bG-0005cQ-1l for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:51:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0FF984CD92; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26385-07; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 404D684CDC3; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 05 May 2008 17:50:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92E4D84CD92 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26310-01 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19DB884CD10 for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 17:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080505215454.CCBY17818.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 22:54:54 +0100 Received: from PC01 ([82.4.96.249]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20080505215347.YTK17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@PC01> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 22:53:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c8aefa$226ee890$9601a8c0@PC01> From: "John Grogan" To: References: <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Tab settings granularity Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:51:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 677 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: johngrogan@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ffn86aHo4QYA:15 a=GQ2xsTMKaAUA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XrJjX6k-Our37tWNNDAA:9 a=ude9OXyGJpPA_hTd9SYA:7 a=S_vraomF5qyR6SBBCg6nc20Wdk0A:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.8/1415] > In message <481F7105.60904@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon > writes >>Is there any way to set tabs at intervals which do not fall on exact >>millimeter boundaries? I have tried entering a value (say, 41.5mm) in the >>dialogue box but it gets truncated to 41mm later. > > Hmm. that is probably a bug, at some point, someone had the bright idea > that tabs should snap to mm boundaries. > > I think you can set tabs where you want e.g. 49.5 mm, the tab stops there > until you select it, when the dialogue snaps it to the nearest mm. > > So you can set them via the dialogue or DDL. > Setting non-integral mm tab stops in the dialogue works fine for me on the Iyonix. They even stay put if I select them on the slider. As you suggest, however, if I move them using the slider, I can only move them to integral mm positions (which I don't consider to be a bug!). Regards John Grogan To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 7 11:43:59 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JtVaI-3wdknw-03-B0r.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 11:43:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JtVaI-3wdknw-03-B0r; Tue, 06 May 2008 22:24:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JtVaI-3wdknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 06 May 2008 22:24:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JtVaE-0006FY-Ri for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 06 May 2008 22:24:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF0AD84D7E9; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24045-02; 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d="scan'208";a="96891397" Received: from ppp121-44-124-146.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([121.44.124.146]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 07 May 2008 07:53:43 +0930 Message-ID: <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:24:15 +1000 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ovation software list Subject: [softwarelist] centre listing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 678 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=45dRtjRrmz4A:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PCVgUg1SHN7fqV2vIGwA:9 a=K3laOIlLVKWV_PZt6yUA:7 a=DQ5PGSY6-KrvNNajVQqVnYq5wCwA:4 a=uL3qOuNcMWcA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.9/1419] How can I get Ovation to centre on the = in the following:- 1 ton = 1.02 tonne 1 foot = 0.305 metre 1 yd = 0.91 metre 1 mile = 1.61 km 1 chain = 20.1 metre -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 7 11:44:00 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JtVpM-4SLknw-08-Aln.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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Wed, 7 May 2008 00:39:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: Ovation software list Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 00:39:52 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: centre listing Message-ID: <4f9b703836Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net> References: <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2008 22:39:18.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[052F0000:01C8AFCA] X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 679 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FU-CWTAwuFYA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UmB3jWtEraGFlRu8mSoA:9 a=HVKoc9ou_keEG_-LspcA:7 a=A0tg_tCJdJVqqBCxJJ3cx0EIoeYA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.9/1419] In article <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett wrote: > How can I get Ovation to centre on the = in the following:- > 1 ton = 1.02 tonne > 1 foot = 0.305 metre > 1 yd = 0.91 metre > 1 mile = 1.61 km > 1 chain = 20.1 metre It depends on what you want. Do you want... 1 ton = 1.02 tonne 1 foot = 0.305 metre 1 yd = 0.91 metre 1 mile = 1.61 km 1 chain = 20.1 metre Tabs ..L.......L.L (all left tabs) Then you type: {TAB} 1 ton {TAB} = {TAB} 1.02 tonne etc. ...or do you want... 1 ton = 1.02 tonne 1 foot = 0.305 metre 1 yd = 0.91 metre 1 mile = 1.61 km 1 chain = 20.1 metre Tabs .........R.L (a right tab and a left tab) Then you type: {TAB} 1 ton = {TAB} 1.02 tonne etc. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers PS Please, use a monospaced font for proper viewing the above examples To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 7 11:44:10 2008 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1JtWXk-17gVbs-02-A3P.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 11:44:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1JtWXk-17gVbs-02-A3P; Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1JtWXk-17gVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1JtWXg-0004Q0-7u for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 16CDF84DBE0; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29952-09; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A6D284DAC8; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 06 May 2008 19:24:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9289384DBE0 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29861-05 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62A2A84DA47 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newble.demon.co.uk ([80.176.249.168] helo=iyonix.iyonix) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JtWX1-0003In-LY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: P C Newble To: Ovation software list Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 00:25:10 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: centre listing Message-ID: <4f9b745dc0peter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <4f9b703836Paul@sprie.nl> References: <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net> <4f9b703836Paul@sprie.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 680 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sB_1LgfI5zUA:15 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=pMdtZHg6hnHVLmAUEJaFkA==:17 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=pqe-Dm8yVcXZF9xYfUcA:9 a=oQw__WQmKgHeZoIqpeUA:7 a=vjLTnqFJitIts52OSisOUd6s8i4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.93 [269.23.9/1419] In article <4820DA8F.9080007@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett wrote: > How can I get Ovation to centre on the = in the following:- > 1 ton = 1.02 tonne > 1 foot = 0.305 metre > 1 yd = 0.91 metre > 1 mile = 1.61 km > 1 chain = 20.1 metre Create a decimal tab with = in the box next to that option (instead of the usual decimal point). 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