From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:12 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DS8v4-0003uk-HQ-0003v5."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:12 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DS8v4-0003uk-HQ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS8v4-0003uk-HQ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:14 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS8v4-0006cP-7y; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:14 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DS8ut-00034m-Lu; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:31:03 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j417UsO01176 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:30:54 +0100 Received: from smtp.fireflyinternet.com (smtp.fireflyuk.net [207.44.238.99]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j417UkC01066 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:30:46 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost by smtp.fireflyinternet.com (FireFly SMTP Server v8.0.3) with SMTP id KLX74865 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:03:25 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This has been on my desktop for some time - It must have worked when I put it there. Recently someone has sent me some documents in RTF format - and I cannot load them into Ov Pro. It seems to try to import the file but then stops. The error message is sometimes: system variable transrtf$failure not found and mostly unknown object at 44, or 56 etc I wonder if these symptoms show what I am doing wrong. -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DS8vQ-000486-H7-00048K."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DS8vQ-000486-H7; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS8vQ-000486-H7; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS8vQ-0007cJ-4Z; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:31:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DS8ut-00035c-UI; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:31:03 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j417UlX01078 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:30:47 +0100 Received: from smtp.fireflyinternet.com (smtp.fireflyuk.net [207.44.238.99]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j417Ukr01065 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:30:46 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost by smtp.fireflyinternet.com (FireFly SMTP Server v8.0.3) with SMTP id KLX74865 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:30:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:51:55 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting Message-ID: <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate > >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DS9EM-0002kD-KR-0002kf."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DS9EM-0002kD-KR; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:51:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9EM-0002kD-KR; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:51:10 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9EM-0006PO-63; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:51:10 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DS9E6-0007xX-0M; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:50:54 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j417olU07799 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:50:47 +0100 Received: from mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout18.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j417okd07793 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:50:46 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501075046.NNKI18795.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:50:46 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.212.1]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501075045.EESF1352.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:50:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:56:20 +0100 Message-ID: <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) od@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > This has been on my desktop for some time - It must have > worked when I put it there. Recently someone has sent me > some documents in RTF format - and I cannot load them into > Ov Pro. > > It seems to try to import the file but then stops. > > > I wonder if these symptoms show what I am doing wrong. > It is a MS file. Rich Text Format. Easiwriter can deal with it. (On the Iyonix's) Writer+ will render it too. On another RISCOS machines then there is !Antiword as well which I think is freeware. If all fails send me the file and I'll sort it for you, Blessings Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:14 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DS9MN-0002fo-3a-0002gV."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:14 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DS9MN-0002fo-3a; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:59:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9MN-0002fo-3a; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:59:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9MM-0003g9-RJ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:59:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DS9M7-0001It-HE; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:59:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j417x7V10641 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:59:07 +0100 Received: from mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout15.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.15]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j417x6q10625 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:59:06 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501075906.MMIJ1168.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:59:06 +0100 Received: from ntlworld ([81.100.203.215]) by aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501075906.LUIV5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@ntlworld> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:59:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: JayCee X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:59:01 +0100 Message-ID: <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: JaySoft User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j417x6q10632 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> rod a wrote: > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > Sounds like just what I want. Any idea where I can find it, I have searched all the applet sites I can find on the web. JayCee -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:15 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DS9z6-0000tO-KN-0000tn."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:15 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DS9z6-0000tO-KN; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:39:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9z6-0000tO-KN; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:39:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DS9z6-0003IV-5T; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:39:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DS9ym-0001Vi-4C; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:39:08 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j418cwH22966 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:38:58 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j418cwd22963 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:38:58 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DS9vh-0003xT-4m for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:35:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 09:40:49 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting Message-ID: <4d642408c1charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j418cwd22964 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk>, JayCee wrote: > In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> > rod a wrote: > > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, > > > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate > >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > > > Sounds like just what I want. Any idea where I can find it, I have > searched all the applet sites I can find on the web. www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html is Gavin's site but I don't see it there. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:17 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSAZJ-0002WX-KP-0002Wu."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:17 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSAZJ-0002WX-KP; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:16:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSAZJ-0002WX-KP; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:16:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSAZJ-0002Xn-3h; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:16:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSAZ0-0003tP-Hl; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:16:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j419GHj02165 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:16:17 +0100 Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j419GHj02151 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:16:17 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from bts-0246.dialup.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.48.246] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DSAYh-0001pU-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:16:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:12:55 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting Message-ID: <4d6426f942mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d642408c1charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <4d642408c1charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d642408c1charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>, charles wrote: > In article <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk>, > JayCee wrote: > > In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> > > rod a wrote: > > > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > > >> Hi, > > > > > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate > > >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > > > > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > > > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > > > > > Sounds like just what I want. Any idea where I can find it, I > > have searched all the applet sites I can find on the web. > www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html is Gavin's site but I don't > see it there. Yes I did a search also and came up with Gavin web site but like you cannot find it on there. Best Regards, Mick -- |^^^^ Michael Martin ^^^^^ mmartin@zetnet.co.uk ^^^|Using Kinetic RiscPC| | * http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/fifepits/ *| Email and News by | | ^^^ http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/sign/ ^^^| !Pluto | |====== Risc OS immune to email Virus ======|===With RISC OS 4===| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:18 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSBE7-00018a-9p-00018z."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:18 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSBE7-00018a-9p; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:59:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSBE7-00018a-9p; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:59:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSBE6-0002zu-Ru; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSBDk-0006S0-FJ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:58:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j419wVb15497 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:58:31 +0100 Received: from smtp.fireflyinternet.com (smtp.fireflyuk.net [207.44.238.99]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j419wU615490 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:58:30 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost by smtp.fireflyinternet.com (FireFly SMTP Server v8.0.3) with SMTP id KLX74865 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:58:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:55:39 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > problem with using !TransRTF with RTF file > > It seems to try to import the file but then stops. > > > > > It is a MS file. Rich Text Format. Easiwriter can deal with it. > (On the Iyonix's) Writer+ will render it too. On another RISCOS > machines then there is !Antiword as well which I think is > freeware. If all fails send me the file and I'll sort it for you, > Blessings > Alan Thanks for the answer. It won't load into Antiword which tells me that it thinks it must be an RTF file. And that it what it is supposed to be as I asked the sender to send it to me as RTF as I had hoped to be able to load it into OvPro. So does this mean that there are different sorts of RTF file - and that !TransRTF will load only some of them into OvPro? Or that what I was sent isn't a proper RTF file at all? The particular document is not of importance as I was doing this as an experiment to find the best way of getting a quite simple document just with coloured text, bold, italic etc from Word (I think) into OvPro. -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSCUM-0006Nx-A9-0006OP."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:21 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSCUM-0006Nx-A9; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:19:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSCUM-0006Nx-A9; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:19:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSCUL-00032T-WC; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:19:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSCUF-0003Jx-Ep; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:19:47 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41BJYB11852 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:19:34 +0100 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41BJYF11845 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:19:34 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-228-244.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.228.244]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F46E0000CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:19:33 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:12:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 01 May, rod a wrote: > So does this mean that there are different sorts of > RTF file - and that !TransRTF will load only some > of them into OvPro? Or that what I was sent isn't a > proper RTF file at all? Both. As ever the MS version of the world isn't quite the same as reality. Most people call their modifications of standards "breaks" MS refer to them as "enhancements" -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSFC4-0001bC-Ng-0001be."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSFC4-0001bC-Ng; Sun, 01 May 2005 14:13:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSFC4-0001bC-Ng; Sun, 01 May 2005 14:13:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSFC4-0003Bk-6E; Sun, 01 May 2005 14:13:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSFBg-0004G7-8r; Sun, 01 May 2005 15:12:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41ECZi30148 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:12:35 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout16.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.16]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41ECZZ30143 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:12:35 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501141230.JNXB21532.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:12:30 +0100 Received: from ntlworld ([81.100.203.215]) by aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501141230.OART1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@ntlworld> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:12:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: JayCee X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 15:12:26 +0100 Message-ID: <1b6542644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: JaySoft User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j41ECZZ30144 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> rod a wrote: > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > No one seems to be able to find this; if it is shareware can you send me a copy please. JayCee -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:25 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSI1L-0001Ew-NP-0001FE."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:25 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSI1L-0001Ew-NP; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:14:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSI1L-0001Ew-NP; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:14:19 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSI1L-0000DV-3H; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:14:19 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSI0s-0007Cb-E6; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:13:50 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41HDYl15402 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:13:34 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41HDXq15395 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:13:33 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from skipton.demon.co.uk ([80.177.111.128] helo=IYONIX) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DSHxd-000Dw0-IJ for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:10:29 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Scanners To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: C J Craig X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:13:34 +0100 Message-ID: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j41HDYq15397 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Went out looking for scanners today Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one on Davids list that seems to be current. It does scan negatives as well but cost £350! The only Epson Perfection 2400s were in the bargain pile but alas without power supplies! Does anyone have a 4870 & is it USB compatible with the Iyonix? I will ask Castle what they have to offer? Chris -- C J Craig Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk www.chriscraig.co.uk Castle Iyonix XScale Processor RiscOS 32 bit PC. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:00:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSITg-00073F-G0-00073c."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:27 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSITg-00073F-G0; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:43:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSITg-00073F-G0; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:43:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSITg-0003Nx-Pd; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:43:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSITb-0006Vt-7j; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:43:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41HhII23710 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:43:18 +0100 Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net (ranger.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.32]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41HhIr23707 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:43:18 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from MARSDEN9.btinternet.com (81-86-166-106.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.166.106]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE30CE0001BA for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:43:17 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20050501184128.01d69008@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: phillip.marsden@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:43:17 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Phillip Marsden Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Sorting In-Reply-To: <1b6542644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> <1b6542644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7CB3BB Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) At 15:12 01/05/2005, JayCee wrote: >In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> > rod a wrote: > > > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, > > > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate > >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > > >No one seems to be able to find this; if it is shareware can you send >me a copy please. Perhaps an email to sales@crawford-print.co.uk might give you the information that you require. info@dc-soft.co.uk is the computer side of their business. -- Regards, Phillip Marsden. phillip.marsden@btinternet.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 29/04/2005 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:03 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSKvR-000371-PZ-00037T."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:03 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSKvR-000371-PZ; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:20:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSKvR-000371-PZ; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:20:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSKvR-0007UD-Om; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:20:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSKuu-0002EB-Ek; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:19:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41KJXv06335 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:19:33 +0100 Received: from mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout18.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41KJXR06332 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:19:33 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501201928.HHHQ18795.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:19:28 +0100 Received: from iyonix.iyonix.ntlworld.com ([213.106.195.34]) by aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501201928.GEU1844.aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@iyonix.iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:19:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanners To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Roger Noble X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:19:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4ffa63644d.rgn@iyonix.ntlworld.com> References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05S) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, C J Craig wrote: > Does anyone have a 4870 & is it USB compatible with the Iyonix? Yes and yes. Cheers, Roger -- Roger Noble rgnoble@ntlworld.com rgn@jb.man.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:05 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSLCW-000235-Bh-00023S."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:05 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSLCW-000235-Bh; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:38:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLCW-000235-Bh; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLCW-0004tl-FY; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLCE-0000EV-35; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:37:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41KbZk10859 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:37:35 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41KbYR10855 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:37:34 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from b-180-24-151.ma.dial.de.ignite.net[62.180.24.151] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1DSLC130Th-0002Ub; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:37:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:37:35 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> Steven Pampling wrote: > On 01 May, rod a wrote: > > > So does this mean that there are different sorts of RTF file - and > > that !TransRTF will load only some of them into OvPro? Or that what I > > was sent isn't a proper RTF file at all? > > Both. As ever the MS version of the world isn't quite the same as > reality. > > Most people call their modifications of standards "breaks" MS refer to > them as "enhancements" That sort of mud-slinging is not exactly helpful in this case. RTF is a Microsoft format, so even if any of Rod's suggestions were true, and there are no reasons to believe so, your comments would still not make any sense. It is up to Microsoft to define and change their own format in any way they wish. I am not aware of any general problems with the RTF format as such, in particular with there being "diferent sorts of RTF file". It is of course possible that a) the file is not an RTF file at all, but some other format, which is easy to check by looking at the first couple of characters, which should be something like "{\rtf1" b) the file is an RTF file but does not a valid RTF format, which can be checked by consulting the RTF specification c) there is a bug in TransRTF that stops the file from being loaded. None of the above would be Microsoft's fault in any way, unless it is case b) and the file was created by a Microsoft application, but that is an unlikely scenario. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:05 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSLHt-0000rq-Dz-0000sA."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:05 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSLHt-0000rq-Dz; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLHt-0000rq-Dz; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLHt-00012g-4n; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:43:37 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLHn-0007PO-DD; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:43:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41KhPS12366 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:43:25 +0100 Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41KhOf12358 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:43:24 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=56917 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLHg-0002Jm-4H for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:43:24 +0200 Received: from cp418204-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.250.27]:55712 helo=padua) by smtp1.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLHf-0006yt-6J for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:43:23 +0200 Message-ID: <005001c54e8e$7fa4b370$6502a8c0@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:43:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:55 AM , roda wrote: >>> problem with using !TransRTF with RTF file >>> It seems to try to import the file but then stops. >>> > ... It won't load into Antiword which > tells me that it thinks it must be an RTF file. > > And that it what it is supposed to be as I asked the > sender to send it to me as RTF as I had hoped to be > able to load it into OvPro. > > So does this mean that there are different sorts of > RTF file - and that !TransRTF will load only some > of them into OvPro? Yes, there are different 'flavours' and yes, many programs can't load all flavours. When a RTF file -no matter by which program in Windows it is made in the first place- is loaded and saved in Wordpad as RTF, it will be accepted in OvPro (and Easiwriter). Wordpad also accepts Word files, so there is no need to save as RTF from Word first. > Or that what I was sent isn't a proper RTF file at all? What is 'proper', when there are different views? Or when more is implemented on saving in one program and when the more isn't accepted by receiving programs? > The particular document is not of importance as I was > doing this as an experiment to find the best way > of getting a quite simple document just with coloured > text, bold, italic etc from Word (I think) into OvPro. In my view a good way is to use 'Wordpad' in windows to clean-up the RTF (or Word doc), before trying to use the RTF in any other program -on Windows or on RISC OS. Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:06 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSLRJ-0003wn-Nc-0003xH."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:06 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSLRJ-0003wn-Nc; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:53:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLRJ-0003wn-Nc; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:53:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLRJ-0002hg-5X; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:53:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLRE-0007Du-Qr; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:53:16 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41Kr8114050 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:53:08 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41Kr7S14046 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:53:07 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from skipton.demon.co.uk ([80.177.111.128] helo=IYONIX) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DSLR5-000D7h-6g for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:53:07 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Scanners 4870 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: C J Craig X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:53:14 +0100 Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi What is "not ICE" - in car entertainment?? At end of DP's list? "2400,4870,4990 (not ICE) USB." Chris -- C J Craig Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk www.chriscraig.co.uk Castle Iyonix XScale Processor RiscOS 32 bit PC. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:06 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSLfc-00007T-RP-00007o."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:06 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSLfc-00007T-RP; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:08:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLfc-00007T-RP; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:08:08 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLfc-0006VJ-5k; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:08:08 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLfZ-0001r2-LT; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:08:05 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41L7xR16478 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:07:59 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41L7xx16475 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:07:59 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501210759.UPTG28254.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:07:59 +0100 Received: from iyonix.iyonix.ntlworld.com ([213.106.195.34]) by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050501210759.DFAI1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@iyonix.iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:07:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanners 4870 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Roger Noble X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:07:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1f6c68644d.rgn@iyonix.ntlworld.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05S) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, C J Craig wrote: > What is "not ICE" - in car entertainment?? > At end of DP's list? > > "2400,4870,4990 (not ICE) USB." It is a means of removing dust marks, scratch marks, and the like whilst scanning. DP's drivers do not support turning this on. Neither do the linux drivers provided by Epson ... Cheers, Roger -- Roger Noble rgnoble@ntlworld.com rgn@jb.man.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:07 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSLlh-000668-GI-00066R."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:07 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSLlh-000668-GI; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:14:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLlh-000668-GI; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:14:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSLlg-0000JG-TJ; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:14:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSLlc-0005o4-16; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:14:20 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41LEEW17343 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:14:14 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41LEE317339 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:14:14 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from g4iat.demon.co.uk ([80.177.19.185] helo=Iyonix) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DSLlW-0000Vi-0H for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:14:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:14:14 +0100 From: Barry Smith To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanners Message-ID: References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.07) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j41LEE317340 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> C J Craig wrote: > Hi > > Went out looking for scanners today > Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one > on Davids list that seems to be current. > It does scan negatives as well but cost > £350! The only Epson Perfection 2400s were in the bargain pile but > alas without power supplies! 24v DC at 0.8 amp, centre positive. I managed to buy a 2400 while PCWorld still had a few. I'm not sure if CJE still have any. Barry -- Old weavers never die, they just keep bobbin along. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:07 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSNoJ-0004ib-Ax-0004j1."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:07 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSNoJ-0004ib-Ax; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSNoJ-0004ib-Ax; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSNoJ-0007LK-7s; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSNoG-0004a4-7r; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:25:12 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41NOtP14033 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:55 +0100 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41NOtw14028 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:55 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-197-92.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.197.92]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD822E0000E5 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:54 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 00:16:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > None of the above would be Microsoft's fault in any way, unless it is > case b) and the file was created by a Microsoft application, but that is > an unlikely scenario. Excuse me Martin, but have you ever consider a career as a stand up comic? MS are the most likely candidates to break any standard - especially their own. It's just something you learn to deal with when you use (or support) MS operating systems etc. -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:08 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSNok-000333-M9-00033N."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:08 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSNok-000333-M9; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSNok-000333-M9; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:42 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSNok-0007UF-ND; Sun, 01 May 2005 23:25:42 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSNoF-000314-Fd; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:25:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j41NOwk14037 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:58 +0100 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j41NOs214026 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:55 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-197-92.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.197.92]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3F6E0000DB for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:24:53 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 00:13:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > That sort of mud-slinging is not exactly helpful in this case. RTF is a > Microsoft format, so even if any of Rod's suggestions were true, and > there are no reasons to believe so, your comments would still not make > any sense. It is up to Microsoft to define and change their own format > in any way they wish. It isn't the defining so much as the *re* defining. Rather like the standard for XP compatible/approved software installs. You can't have the logo on a product that hasn't been confirmed by MS to install into the Program Files directory - and then they produce the Office Suite version for XP that doesn't install into that location... -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:11 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSVIe-00042C-Pc-00042Z."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:11 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSVIe-00042C-Pc; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:25:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSVIe-00042C-Pc; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:25:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSVIe-0005JB-Q7; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:25:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSVIO-0006yz-3P; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:24:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j427OT328366 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:24:29 +0100 Received: from relay.freeuk.net (relay.freeuk.net [212.126.144.54]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j427OSq28362 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:24:28 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from du-008-0129.freeuk.com ([195.8.75.129] helo=bonytaker.freeuk.com) by relay.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DSVI3-000Kis-90 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:24:28 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:27:29 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Baker Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanners To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Organization: Tony Baker Warrington. bonytaker@freeuk.com X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun 01 May, Barry Smith wrote: > > Hi > > > > Went out looking for scanners today > > Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one > > on Davids list that seems to be current. > > It does scan negatives as well but cost > > £350! The only Epson Perfection 2400s were in the bargain pile but > > alas without power supplies! > > 24v DC at 0.8 amp, centre positive. > > I managed to buy a 2400 while PCWorld still had a few. I'm not > sure if CJE still have any. > > Barry Hi If you go into PC World and get a 'Partsmaster" telephone number you will be able to order just about any power supply that you want. -- Tony Baker Warrington, 01925 630097 Everything has to change and sometimes that change isn't perceived as an improvement. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:12 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSY9Y-0001Ki-CI-0001Kz."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:12 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSY9Y-0001Ki-CI; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:27:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSY9Y-0001Ki-CI; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:27:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSY9Y-0006kA-Lb; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:27:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSY9S-0001Jl-9d; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:27:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42ARTr12458 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:27:29 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.191]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42ARSq12455 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:27:29 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9A-0000tt-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:28 +0200 Received: from [62.180.26.57] (helo=bach) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9A-00026l-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:22:31 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <712eb1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SEE_FOR_YOURSELF,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> Steven Pampling wrote: > On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > None of the above would be Microsoft's fault in any way, unless it is > > case b) and the file was created by a Microsoft application, but that > > is an unlikely scenario. > > Excuse me Martin, but have you ever consider a career as a stand up > comic? Well, I do get quite a few laughs in my theatre talks, so you are welcome to come along to Wakefield and see for yourself. :-) > MS are the most likely candidates to break any standard - especially > their own. It's just something you learn to deal with when you use (or > support) MS operating systems etc. If that is so, you can surely quote an example of how they have broken the RTF standard? Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSYA2-0002Nq-K9-0002OQ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSYA2-0002Nq-K9; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYA2-0002Nq-K9; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYA2-0007KI-2v; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSY9k-0005dO-Fj; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:28:04 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42AS1f12551 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:01 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.176]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42AS1j12537 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:01 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9h-0008V1-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:28:01 +0200 Received: from [62.180.26.57] (helo=bach) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9A-00026l-02 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:02 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <2e98b1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <005001c54e8e$7fa4b370$6502a8c0@padua> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <005001c54e8e$7fa4b370$6502a8c0@padua> "Tonnie Demarteau" wrote: > > Or that what I was sent isn't a proper RTF file at all? > > What is 'proper', when there are different views? I only know one view: The official RTF specification. What other relevant views are there? We are discussing a published format here. The situation is the same as with all other published formats: If a file conforms to the specification, it is valid, otherwise it isn't. If a program exports an invalid file, then file a bug report to the vendor. If a program claiming to support the file format refuses to import it, file a bug report to its vendor. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSYAK-0003gl-Hq-0003hQ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSYAK-0003gl-Hq; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYAK-0003gl-Hq; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYAK-0000wJ-BI; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:28:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSY9m-0001Rl-Nw; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:28:06 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42AS1h12557 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:01 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42AS1e12546 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:01 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9h-0001dJ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:28:01 +0200 Received: from [62.180.26.57] (helo=bach) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DSY9A-00026l-01 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:19:16 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <66e2b0644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> Steven Pampling wrote: > On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > That sort of mud-slinging is not exactly helpful in this case. RTF is > > a Microsoft format, so even if any of Rod's suggestions were true, and > > there are no reasons to believe so, your comments would still not make > > any sense. It is up to Microsoft to define and change their own format > > in any way they wish. > > It isn't the defining so much as the *re* defining. Fine, so do you have any specific example of aspects of RTF that were redefined in an incompatible way by Microsoft? Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSYRY-0002wH-6w-0002wl."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSYRY-0002wH-6w; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:46:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYRY-0002wH-6w; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:46:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYRX-0007h1-VE; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:46:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSYRT-0006Sv-V3; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:46:23 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42AkIW18217 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:46:18 +0100 Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42AkHU18214 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:46:17 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from bts-0186.dialup.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.48.186] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DSYRM-0003VN-00 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:46:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:44:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanners Message-ID: <4d64b3395bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Anthony Baker wrote: > On Sun 01 May, Barry Smith wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Went out looking for scanners today > > > Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one > > > on Davids list that seems to be current. > > > It does scan negatives as well but cost > > > £350! The only Epson Perfection 2400s were in the bargain pile but > > > alas without power supplies! > > > > 24v DC at 0.8 amp, centre positive. > > > > I managed to buy a 2400 while PCWorld still had a few. I'm not > > sure if CJE still have any. > > > > Barry > Hi > If you go into PC World and get a 'Partsmaster" telephone number you > will be able to order just about any power supply that you want. Part Master phone number. Tel: 0870 9090444 I was on at them last week for the power supply for my Lap top went down, and got one from them delivered the next morning. Best Regards, Mick -- |^^^^ Michael Martin ^^^^^ mmartin@zetnet.co.uk ^^^|Using Kinetic RiscPC| | * http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/fifepits/ *| Email and News by | | ^^^ http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/sign/ ^^^| !Pluto | |====== Risc OS immune to email Virus ======|===With RISC OS 4===| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:14 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSYYf-0001oP-Ha-0001om."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:14 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSYYf-0001oP-Ha; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:53:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYYf-0001oP-Ha; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:53:49 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYYf-0000gs-AN; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:53:49 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSYYa-0000wT-Q5; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:53:44 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42Arc719803 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:53:38 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42ArcH19800 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:53:38 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050502105333.WMJG28254.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:53:33 +0100 Received: from Iyo ([80.0.194.45]) by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050502105333.QORS1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyo> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:53:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Grahame Parish To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:53:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64b402edmaillist.parish@millers-way.net> In-Reply-To: <712eb1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <712eb1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <712eb1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> > Steven Pampling wrote: > > On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > > None of the above would be Microsoft's fault in any way, unless it is > > > case b) and the file was created by a Microsoft application, but that > > > is an unlikely scenario. [snip] > > MS are the most likely candidates to break any standard - especially > > their own. It's just something you learn to deal with when you use (or > > support) MS operating systems etc. > If that is so, you can surely quote an example of how they have broken > the RTF standard? There was a scare in the IT mags a couple of years back where it was stated that M$'s tampering with RTF had made it susceptible to viruses. I seem to remember that they had changed it to allow the transfer of macros in an RTF file - and we all know how safe VBA macros are! I always thought that RTF was a non-M$ standard. They have badly implemented it in the past. Somewhere around Word 2 or the next version it was unable to import the RTF it had generated itself! Cheers, Grahame. -- Grahame Parish maillistDOTparishATmillersHYPHENwayDOTnet -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:15 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSYiH-0007Ot-JA-0007PW."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:15 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSYiH-0007Ot-JA; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:03:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYiH-0007Ot-JA; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:03:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSYiH-00009B-Mp; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:03:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSYhf-0007AE-0f; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:03:07 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42B30421976 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:03:00 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42B2xd21971 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:02:59 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from cpc3-cmbg4-5-0-cust55.cmbg.cable.ntl.com[81.96.74.55] (helo=linux.at.home) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1DSYhU3A2l-0002Mq; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:02:56 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:02:52 +0100 From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4d64b402edmaillist.parish@millers-way.net> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d64742b86steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <712eb1644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d64b402edmaillist.parish@millers-way.net> Mail-Followup-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Gemini/2.22 (Qt/3.3.1) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="1400166704--650954152--2112823359"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:e57c3e1a4e3b0a42ebfd9b8d18fc39cc Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) --1400166704--650954152--2112823359 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a previous message, Grahame Parish w= rote: > I always thought that RTF was a non-M$ standard. IIRC, it was originally non-MS but they adopted and formalised it. As a r= esult of the dominance of Word, it then became a de facto MS standard despite i= ts external origins. John --=20 John Pettigrew Headstrong Games=20 john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price=20 http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the ban= k=20 Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards --1400166704--650954152--2112823359 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCdgjgp6M/P/S/JWgRArxfAJ9DK+dk4jbRvc7RbkkFvUzIUNhZIwCeNdwd R0CVhcrAdLir2N7ao9nUqMg= =1BbM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1400166704--650954152--2112823359-- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:17 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSc1T-00074y-As-00075P."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:17 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSc1T-00074y-As; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:35:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSc1T-00074y-As; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:35:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSc1T-0001Xb-6h; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:35:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSc1O-0003Yh-A2; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:35:42 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42EZMx12385 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:35:22 +0100 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42EZMx12376 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:35:22 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-197-92.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.197.92]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD882E00004E for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:35:21 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:29:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64c7cd80steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <66e2b0644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <66e2b0644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 02 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> Steven Pampling > wrote: > > On 01 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > > That sort of mud-slinging is not exactly helpful in this case. RTF > > > is a Microsoft format, so even if any of Rod's suggestions were > > > true, and there are no reasons to believe so, your comments would > > > still not make any sense. It is up to Microsoft to define and change > > > their own format in any way they wish. > > > > It isn't the defining so much as the *re* defining. > Fine, so do you have any specific example of aspects of RTF that were > redefined in an incompatible way by Microsoft? Where would you like to start? The version of RTF that Word 2.0 understood, the version that came with Word 6 and it understood, or would you like to move on a little? The point I was making is that the revisions they introduce are not always understood by their own programs so the fact that someone else has a problem isn't necessarily that other persons fault. Try exporting an RTF from Word and importing it to WordPad and see what it does to the document. If you're lucky the answer is nothing, mostly the answer is "oops" -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:18 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSc8p-0000tl-3L-0000uL."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:18 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSc8p-0000tl-3L; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:43:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSc8p-0000tl-3L; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:43:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSc8o-000549-RQ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:43:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSc8i-00052o-Pg; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:43:16 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42Eh9F14658 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:43:09 +0100 Received: from smtp.fireflyinternet.com (smtp.fireflyuk.net [207.44.238.99]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42Eh8D14648 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:43:08 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost by smtp.fireflyinternet.com (FireFly SMTP Server v8.0.3) with SMTP id KLX74865 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:42:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:42:01 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Thanks to all the many people who have taken the trouble to comment on my original query. What I actually would like to be able to do is to communicate with someone who uses a Windows machine in some form other than text. To be specific what is happening is that I want to be able to correct the English in her emails and vice versa. It is helpful to be able to use colour, bold, italic underlining etc. to distinguish original text, corrections from corrections of corrections etc. Now HTML works fine in the inwards direction but is not so good in OvPro->HTML (using OvHTML) as it seems to miss some instructions and for example continue the italics till the end of the paragraph etc. or refuses to continue in red onto the next line and won't use type-face other than Times. I can read a Word .doc file (using Antiword) but then cannot do anything with it except in text form. >From what I understand from the kind comments, it seems that RTF is not much good either. If there is a solution to my specific problem (other than getting my correspondent to use OvPro for windows) or my using Word, then I would be grateful to hear it. -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DScAo-0006XW-OI-0006YR."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:21 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DScAo-0006XW-OI; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:45:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DScAo-0006XW-OI; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:45:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DScAo-0005k7-C8; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:45:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DScAP-0006l0-CT; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:45:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42Eitt14963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:44:55 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42Eish14960 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:44:54 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DScAI-000F90-Ji for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:44:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:43:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64c90cf8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d64c7cd80steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d6431f6e7steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <38a865644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d6473eb99steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <66e2b0644d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4d64c7cd80steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) returning to original title: where do I find a 32 bit copy of !TransRTF? The one on DP's site gives me an error message saying it's not 32 bit compatable. Or am I doing something wvery silly? -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DScCx-00009j-Ph-0000AH."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:21 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DScCx-00009j-Ph; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:47:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DScCx-00009j-Ph; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:47:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DScCx-0006cu-Nv; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:47:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DScCs-0007nL-RC; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:47:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42ElVY15452 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:47:31 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42ElVp15448 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:47:31 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DSc9q-00017g-HW for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:44:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:49:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64c99d4acharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> References: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j42ElVp15450 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk>, rod a wrote: > Thanks to all the many people who have taken the trouble > to comment on my original query. [Snip] > If there is a solution to my specific problem (other than > getting my correspondent to use OvPro for windows) or my using > Word, then I would be grateful to hear it. You could read the Word documents in Easiwriter and then save the correct versions back in Word format. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:22 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSdIm-0001FX-HO-0001G1."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:22 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSdIm-0001FX-HO; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:57:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSdIm-0001FX-HO; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:57:44 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSdIm-0005TQ-7k; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:57:44 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSdIP-0001wn-Am; Mon, 02 May 2005 16:57:21 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42FvCG30750 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:57:12 +0100 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42FvBe30741 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:57:11 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-197-92.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.197.92]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F617E000183 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:57:10 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:37:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <4d64ce0809steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> References: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 02 May, rod a wrote: > From what I understand from the kind comments, it seems that > RTF is not much good either. Yes and no. Keep the information simple and it will stay within the common bounds of the portions of the standard implemented in most software. -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSflV-0001In-Ic-0001JM."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:27 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSflV-0001In-Ic; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:35:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSflV-0001In-Ic; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:35:33 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSflV-00017N-IW; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:35:33 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSfl1-00031e-Pu; Mon, 02 May 2005 19:35:03 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42IYkZ13126 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:34:46 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.47]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42IYi413117 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:34:45 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from dsl-80-41-179-232.access.as9105.com ([80.41.179.232]:10635 helo=dave.nom) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSfkh-000PUt-Kf for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:34:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:34:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners Message-ID: <4d64de3f69dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4d64b3395bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> References: <4d64b3395bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j42IYj413122 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d64b3395bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk>, Michael M Martin wrote: > In article , > Anthony Baker wrote: > > On Sun 01 May, Barry Smith wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Went out looking for scanners today > > > > Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one > > > > on Davids list that seems to be current. > > > > It does scan negatives as well but cost > > > > £350! The only Epson Perfection 2400s were in the bargain pile but > > > > alas without power supplies! > > > > > > 24v DC at 0.8 amp, centre positive. > > > > > > I managed to buy a 2400 while PCWorld still had a few. I'm not > > > sure if CJE still have any. > > > > > > Barry > > Hi > > If you go into PC World and get a 'Partsmaster" telephone number you > > will be able to order just about any power supply that you want. > Part Master phone number. Tel: 0870 9090444 > I was on at them last week for the power supply for my Lap top went > down, and got one from them delivered the next morning. > Best Regards, Mick But have you done any price comparisons. Replacement battery for my mobile phone from them 36-99 UKpounds. >From batteriesplus 12-99 UKpounds. Additional Li-Ion battery for my Olympus camera from them would be 34-99 plus postage. >From Tantronic 20-49 including postage. I've not done any other comparisons, but based on the above I'd not use them, unless there was not other source. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:28 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSiEW-0004To-Jq-0004UJ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:28 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSiEW-0004To-Jq; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:13:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSiEW-0004To-Jq; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:13:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSiEV-0002Id-Us; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:13:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSiEP-0002XG-As; Mon, 02 May 2005 22:13:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j42LDAl06619 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:13:10 +0100 Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j42LD9A06616 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:13:10 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from user-3276.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.79.236.204] helo=rpc) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DSiE1-0000D0-GD for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 22:13:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:12:32 +0100 From: Alan Adams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: <00b1ec644d.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4d64c8f096rod@argonet.co.uk> <4d64ce0809steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4d64ce0809steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d64ce0809steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> you wrote: > On 02 May, rod a wrote: > > > From what I understand from the kind comments, it seems that > > RTF is not much good either. > > Yes and no. > > Keep the information simple and it will stay within the common bounds of > the portions of the standard implemented in most software. > I've recently been sent an RTF file created by Word10 (Office 2003). It will load into Word10. It will not load in a usable form in Ovation Pro, Easiwriter, or Open Office on a PC. It looks as though each word is in a separate line in each of these. I think the layout was a table of some sort. The cynical part of me says breaking Open Office may be the reason for Microsoft changing the format in the way they have. I haven't been able to test it in Word 6, and I don't now have the file - as it was unusable I deleted it. Alan -- Alan Adams alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSstE-0005cp-7p-0005dm."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:33 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSstE-0005cp-7p; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:36:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSstE-0005cp-7p; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:36:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSstE-0000AW-8S; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:36:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSst7-0007sX-Tu; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:36:17 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j438Zun27443 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:35:56 +0100 Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (A.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.51]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j438Ztg27426 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:35:55 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [81.2.82.47] (helo=Art) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSssk-00071N-QN for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:35:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:13:38 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Sorting Message-ID: <4d6529379agav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> References: <81f8de634d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j438Ztg27435 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <503520644d.jaycee@jstp.freeserve.co.uk>, JayCee wrote: > In message <4d641a1086rod@argonet.co.uk> > rod a wrote: > > On 30 Apr, David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, > > > >> >Is there an applet which allows you to sort a number of seperate > >> >lines into alphabetical order - such as you can do in StrongEd? > > > > There is AlphaSort by Gavin Crawford which does the job. > > I use it for sorting vocabulary lists into alphabetical order. > > > Sounds like just what I want. Any idea where I can find it, I have > searched all the applet sites I can find on the web. Hi, I never got around to putting it on my website. It wasn't perfect and was just a rough applet that was knocked up very quickly. I wrote it at the request of Rodger Davis who was looking for an alphabetical sort, and at the time I'd been working on another applet to provide string array handling to the OPro script language, so AlphaSort provided a nice little way for me to test my ArrayLib applet. AlphaSort does have some shortcomings in that it loses any styles or effects when the lines are sorted, so its use is some what limited. I also seem to remember there may have been another unresolved issue with its use, but I can't remember off hand what that was. I will put AlphaSort up on my website when I get chance, along with the ArrayLib applet that will also need to be installed at the same time. I will reply on here to announce when it is available. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:38 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSw79-0006B2-HS-0006By."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:38 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSw79-0006B2-HS; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:03:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSw79-0006B2-HS; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:02:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSw79-00025J-56; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:02:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSw6q-0003yg-QG; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:02:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j43C2M320633 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:02:22 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.12]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j43C2Lm20622 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:02:22 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [82.111.76.143] (helo=nails.norbins) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1DSw6X-0004bS-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:02:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:01:45 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Nagel Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Sorting To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4d6529379agav@crawford-print.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: speaking for myself X-Return-Rcpt-To: jim@abbeypress.net X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i emailed a wee utility called !Sort to JayCee and RodA. not an OPro applet, simply works on textfiles, but might suit their needs. it came with Impression2 from CC years and years ago and still works on all versions of RiscOS up to 4.02; havent tried it on Iyonix. -- jim -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:01:39 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DSxAe-0002Mu-4C-0002Ne."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:39 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DSxAe-0002Mu-4C; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSxAe-0002Mu-4C; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DSxAe-0004xS-2y; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSxAH-00086T-DI; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:10:17 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j43D9rp16025 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:09:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.mailbox.co.uk (smtp.mailbox.net.uk [195.82.125.32]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j43D9rW16020 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:09:53 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [195.82.127.159] (helo=Iyonix.pnyoung.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.mailbox.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DSx9s-00026w-Jp for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:09:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Sorting To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.01 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:03:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 3 May 2005 Jim Nagel wrote: > i emailed a wee utility called !Sort to JayCee and RodA. > not an OPro applet, simply works on textfiles, > but might suit their needs. > > it came with Impression2 from CC years and years ago > and still works on all versions of RiscOS up to 4.02; > havent tried it on Iyonix. The other way of doing it, which I've always done, is to export the text needing sorting to StrongED and use block > process > sort, and then put it back into OPro. An applet would be nice, though. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/pnyoung family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \_____________ pnyoung@argonet.co.uk. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 17:02:04 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DTLYx-0001lT-3Z-0001m2."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:02:04 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DTLYx-0001lT-3Z; Wed, 04 May 2005 15:13:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTLYx-0001lT-3Z; Wed, 04 May 2005 15:13:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTLYw-0005y0-U1; Wed, 04 May 2005 15:13:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTLYk-0002lL-AL; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:13:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j44FCIc04818 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:12:18 +0100 Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-06.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j44FCGI04797 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:12:16 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost.com.nom (194.230.225.98) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.0.043) id 42534ED4001819D3 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:12:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:18:12 +0100 From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Sorting Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION, IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message you wrote: > On 3 May 2005 Jim Nagel wrote: > > > i emailed a wee utility called !Sort to JayCee and RodA. > > not an OPro applet, simply works on textfiles, > > but might suit their needs. > > > > it came with Impression2 from CC years and years ago > > and still works on all versions of RiscOS up to 4.02; > > havent tried it on Iyonix. > > The other way of doing it, which I've always done, is to export the > text needing sorting to StrongED and use block > process > sort, and > then put it back into OPro. And yet another way to do it is using the sort routines of PipeDream and/or Fireworkz. Both are fast. > > An applet would be nice, though. Faster of course JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 23:20:25 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DTS68-0002ML-Lu-0002Mp."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:20:25 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DTS68-0002ML-Lu; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:12:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTS68-0002ML-Lu; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:12:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTS68-0000tm-Kh; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:12:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTS5J-0002rE-IZ; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:11:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j44MAhh22398 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:10:43 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j44MAgP22392 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:10:42 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DTS4n-000COw-1x for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:10:41 +0000 Message-ID: <0azf60EJgUeCFwEH@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:09:13 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF References: <9xmtgtBV$+cCFwXg@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d641b1e28rod@argonet.co.uk> <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> > problem with using !TransRTF with RTF file >> > It seems to try to import the file but then stops. All I can do is tell the old tale. TransRTF was written for Beebug by Rob Clark, he vanished and Beebug didn't have the source code. So there can be no maintenance on the program, 32 bit versions or bug fixes. I have partly written a new RTF importer, which I will finish in the near future. It might be interesting to see your RTF file, there may be some simple reason why it won't load. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 4 23:50:26 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DTSdo-0004dQ-Oa-0004eA."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:50:26 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DTSdo-0004dQ-Oa; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:46:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTSdo-0004dQ-Oa; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:46:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTSdo-0005ZE-Ej; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:46:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTSdi-0002qm-B7; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:46:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j44MkXx31333 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:46:33 +0100 Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j44MkWq31321 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:46:32 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DTSdU-00009K-8P for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:46:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:41:37 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF Message-ID: References: <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com<4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <0azf60EJgUeCFwEH@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0azf60EJgUeCFwEH@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.06-ds.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 4 May, David Pilling wrote: > >> > problem with using !TransRTF with RTF file > >> > It seems to try to import the file but then stops. > > All I can do is tell the old tale. TransRTF was written for Beebug by > Rob Clark, he vanished and Beebug didn't have the source code. So there > can be no maintenance on the program, 32 bit versions or bug fixes. > > I have partly written a new RTF importer, which I will finish in the > near future. I would cheerfully pay a modest fee for the upgrade. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 5 16:26:51 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DTi6y-0001fX-6M-0001hS."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:26:51 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DTi6y-0001fX-6M; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTi6y-0001fX-6M; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTi6y-00056Y-Oy; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTi6p-0005bu-7G; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j45FHCK01629 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:17:12 +0100 Received: from cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j45FHCo01626 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:17:12 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from modem-1592.hartebeest.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.230.56] helo=localhost.com.freeuk.com) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DTi67-0007gX-Jv for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:08 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !TransRTF To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Kevin Corney X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: <9aa657664d.Kevin@freeuk.com> References: <61f61f644d.alan@ntlworld.com<4d642ae2e9rod@argonet.co.uk> <0azf60EJgUeCFwEH@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 4 May, David Pilling wrote: > >> >> > problem with using !TransRTF with RTF file >> >> > It seems to try to import the file but then stops. >> >> All I can do is tell the old tale. TransRTF was written for Beebug by >> Rob Clark, he vanished and Beebug didn't have the source code. So there >> can be no maintenance on the program, 32 bit versions or bug fixes. >> >> I have partly written a new RTF importer, which I will finish in the >> near future. > > I would cheerfully pay a modest fee for the upgrade. Me too. -- Kevin Corney, Emley, West Yorkshire, HD8 9RG 01924 848882 Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten. - W. Ulbricht -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 6 13:36:06 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DTzcg-0004DW-Pu-0004EC."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:06 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DTzcg-0004DW-Pu; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTzcg-0004DW-Pu; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DTzcf-0001hs-PL; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTzbl-0000no-D4; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:58:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j469uxY20059 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:56:59 +0100 Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (B.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.52]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j469uwc20048 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:56:58 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [81.2.82.47] (helo=Art) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTzZp-00005V-V3 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:56:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:36:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] AlphaSort applet available Message-ID: <4d66bc4f98gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The AlphaSort applet is now on available for download from http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html#alphasort Please note that you will also require the arrayLib applet to be installed, as AlphaSort relies on the array functions that it provides. arrayLib is available from the same site at: http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/oproresources.html#arraylib If anyone has any problems or finds any bugs with these applets then do please get in touch with me. Gav. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 17:12:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DUrb1-0002zN-DS-0002zs."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:13 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DUrb1-0002zN-DS; Sun, 08 May 2005 19:37:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUrb1-0002zN-DS; Sun, 08 May 2005 19:37:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUrb1-0003aS-0z; Sun, 08 May 2005 19:37:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUrau-000683-BD; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:37:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j48Jb9p26177 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:37:09 +0100 Received: from desire.actrix.co.nz (desire.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.164]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j48Jb6Z26144 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:37:07 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from rpc.actrix.co.nz (ak-d250.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.250]) by desire.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A5D163D2 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:36:59 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [softwarelist] DPlngScan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Love X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 07:39:07 +1200 Message-ID: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_10,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi! This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this possible? Regards from New Zealand on a very cool but fine morning. David -- David Love The older you get, the better you realize you were. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 17:12:14 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DUslP-0000KE-Qw-0000KU."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:14 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DUslP-0000KE-Qw; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:52:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUslP-0000KE-Qw; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:52:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUslP-0000h2-6W; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:52:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUskr-00013u-Ro; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:52:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j48Kpjm20511 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:51:45 +0100 Received: from smtp3.global.net.uk (smtp3.global.net.uk [80.189.92.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j48KpiZ20508 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:51:44 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from 178.205.adsl.brightview.com ([80.189.205.178] helo=RTV) by smtp3.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1DUska-000HTX-1c for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:51:44 +0100 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:45:33 +0100 From: Mik Towse To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan Message-ID: <4D68013C9C%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 3.21 POPstar/2.05 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Authenticated-Sender: Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> David Love wrote: > This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images and > often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It > occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the > default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this > possible? 99% of my rescales use the 'rescale to' & 'Lock aspect ratio' so it would be a great time saver if I could make these as my default settings. -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net Difficult things take a long time; the impossible takes a little longer. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 17:12:15 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DUt7y-0006D6-OE-0006DU."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:15 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DUt7y-0006D6-OE; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:15:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUt7y-0006D6-OE; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:15:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DUt7y-0004gQ-BS; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:15:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUt7O-0007xT-0q; Sun, 08 May 2005 22:15:18 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j48LF4226173 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:15:04 +0100 Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j48LF3a26166 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:15:03 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from bts-0283.dialup.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.49.27] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DUt78-0001sN-00 for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 22:15:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 22:12:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan Message-ID: <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz>, David Love wrote: > Hi! > This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images > and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It > occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the > default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this > possible? Yes I would also love to see this also. Mick. -- |^^^^ Michael Martin ^^^^^ mmartin@zetnet.co.uk ^^^|Using Kinetic RiscPC| | * http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/fifepits/ *| Email and News by | | ^^^ http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/sign/ ^^^| !Pluto | |====== Risc OS immune to email Virus ======|===With RISC OS 4===| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 17:12:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVEUo-0002Hb-9g-0002Hp."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVEUo-0002Hb-9g; Mon, 09 May 2005 20:04:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVEUo-0002Hb-9g; Mon, 09 May 2005 20:04:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVEUn-0004VD-PP; Mon, 09 May 2005 20:04:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVEU6-0003JA-IJ; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:04:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j49K3Wd31489 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:03:32 +0100 Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-07.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.27]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j49K3Vq31485 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:03:31 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.8.66) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.0.043) id 42534ED8001CC90D for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:03:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 20:47:16 +0100 From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] AlphaSort applet available Message-ID: References: <4d66bc4f98gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d66bc4f98gav@crawford-print.co.uk> X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d66bc4f98gav@crawford-print.co.uk> you wrote: > The AlphaSort applet is now on available for download from > http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html#alphasort Great. Thanks. JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 17:12:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVFnV-0000Gv-OR-0000HM."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVFnV-0000Gv-OR; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:28:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVFnV-0000Gv-OR; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:28:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVFnV-0001nf-CA; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:28:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVFnR-0002LZ-DM; Mon, 09 May 2005 22:28:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j49LRib29363 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:27:44 +0100 Received: from roma.localnet (p549CCA05.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.202.5]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j49LRhR29351 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:27:43 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [192.168.0.100] (helo=iyonix) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DVFmw-0005vN-00 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 23:27:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 23:27:45 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners Message-ID: <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) C J Craig wrote: > Went out looking for scanners today > Epson Perfection 4870 is the only one > on Davids list that seems to be current. Yes, I think this is a pity. My father has bought a new Iyonix and has to sell his good old HP ScanJet 3c now (which is still a good scanner!) and go for something new (USB-ish). But there's not much that will work. I have the Epson Perfection 2400 but that is almost nowhere available. The 2480 apparently does not work. Why is this? What's the USB scanner that works with the Iyonix and has the best price? -- Stefan Bellon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 21:52:03 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVy7f-0004wV-Nw-0004xE."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:52:03 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVy7f-0004wV-Nw; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVy7f-0004wV-Nw; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVy7f-0005sA-7u; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVy7L-0006Cc-0H; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:47:43 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4BKlEP07922 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:47:14 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4BKlDM07911 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:47:14 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DVy6r-0002gl-Aw for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:47:13 +0000 Message-ID: <85wtC4B87mgCFw3O@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:45:48 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >available. The 2480 apparently does not work. Why is this? Probably because it does not use the standard Epson command set. The vast majority of the scanners Epson have sold over the last 15 years have used the same command set. The easiest way these days to sort things out, is to look at the Sane web site (Linux scanner drivers), that will tell you which scanners work with which drivers. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 23:02:07 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVzEt-0004Wb-6O-0004Xj."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:02:07 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVzEt-0004Wb-6O; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:59:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzEt-0004Wb-6O; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:59:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzEt-0004Sm-PD; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:59:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVzEc-0001Ep-Bn; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:59:18 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4BLx5x32233 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:59:05 +0100 Received: from roma.localnet (p549CCD26.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.205.38]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4BLx4V32221 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:59:04 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [192.168.0.100] (helo=iyonix) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DVzEM-0004M0-00 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:59:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:59:07 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners Message-ID: <4d69937aedsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <85wtC4B87mgCFw3O@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> <85wtC4B87mgCFw3O@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Pilling wrote: > The easiest way these days to sort things out, is to look at the Sane > web site (Linux scanner drivers), that will tell you which scanners > work with which drivers. Ah, nice idea. So, is it safe to assume that all scanners listed at http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epson.5.html do work with your driver? Are there additional Sane drivers apart from the sane-epson driver that are supported by your drivers? -- Stefan Bellon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 23:22:08 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVzTH-0002Z0-7z-0002Zb."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:22:08 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVzTH-0002Z0-7z; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:14:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzTH-0002Z0-7z; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:14:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzTH-0007Sh-9o; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:14:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVzS5-0004Zq-HX; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:13:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4BMCvg04474 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:12:57 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4BMCvM04464 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:12:57 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DVzRo-000EhG-Lw for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:11:38 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> <85wtC4B87mgCFw3O@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d69937aedsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4d69937aedsbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Ah, nice idea. So, is it safe to assume that all scanners listed at >http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epson.5.html do work with your >driver? "fair", it is fair to assume that. I just looked and it seems they don't list all the ones that do work like the 4870 and 4990. > Are there additional Sane drivers apart from the sane-epson >driver that are supported by your drivers? I have nothing to do with Sane. All I'm saying is that certain scanners have command sets in common. The Sane web site is an easy way to discover that information. Just to underline that, my Epson driver was written long before Sane existed, it drives the scanner in a way that is not identical to the Sane Epson driver. However the two drivers are attempting to use the same command set, what they do will probably have the same result on any given scanner. There never have been many scanner makers, as a result a lot of scanners have been badged, so it was common to say "the brand Y scanner can be used with the brand X driver". However your problem is that the only USB scanner I support is the Epson. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 11 23:52:09 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DVzxA-0004wn-4I-0004xS."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:52:09 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DVzxA-0004wn-4I; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:45:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzxA-0004wn-4I; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:45:20 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DVzxA-0002SU-4o; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:45:20 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DVzx0-00084V-LQ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:45:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4BMj1w17838 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:45:01 +0100 Received: from roma.localnet (p549CCD26.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.205.38]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4BMixU17802 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:44:59 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [192.168.0.100] (helo=iyonix) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DVzwp-0004nr-00 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:44:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:45:03 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanners Message-ID: <4d6997af7dsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: <96fa52644d.Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> <4d6888efa2sbellon@sbellon.de> <85wtC4B87mgCFw3O@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4d69937aedsbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Pilling wrote: > However your problem is that the only USB scanner I support is the > Epson. Ah, ok, that's what I wanted to know. Thanks. -- Stefan Bellon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 13 22:46:47 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DWhyd-0004Tm-FK-0004UI."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:46:47 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DWhyd-0004Tm-FK; Fri, 13 May 2005 21:45:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWhyd-0004Tm-FK; Fri, 13 May 2005 21:45:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWhyd-0003gk-IC; Fri, 13 May 2005 21:45:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWhyZ-0002QO-Kg; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:45:43 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4DLj1M00827 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:45:01 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4DLj1X00819 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:45:01 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DWhuj-000LNg-6G for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 13 May 2005 21:41:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:43:57 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images >> and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It >> occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the >> default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this >> possible? >Yes I would also love to see this also. I was surprised to find this setting is not saved. ISTR being asked for this feature in the past. If you wanted to arrange this right now, you'd have to unsqueeze the run image and find the right word to change from 0 to 1, hint there are a couple of 100's right next to it... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 14 14:07:34 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DWovN-00028c-50-000296."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:07:34 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DWovN-00028c-50; Sat, 14 May 2005 05:10:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWovN-00028c-50; Sat, 14 May 2005 05:10:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWovN-0002JL-DD; Sat, 14 May 2005 05:10:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWouR-0000IB-0u; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:09:55 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4E59S430150 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:09:28 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.39]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4E59Sj30147 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:09:28 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from dsl-80-41-179-140.access.as9105.com ([80.41.179.140]:10371 helo=dave.nom) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWotz-0004xu-R1 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 14 May 2005 05:09:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 06:09:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <4d6ac2949cdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > >> This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images > >> and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It > >> occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the > >> default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this > >> possible? > >Yes I would also love to see this also. > I was surprised to find this setting is not saved. ISTR being asked for > this feature in the past. > If you wanted to arrange this right now, you'd have to unsqueeze the run > image and find the right word to change from 0 to 1, hint there are a > couple of 100's right next to it... Not much chance of us doing it then! I get "Unrecognised squeeze format". Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 14 14:07:35 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DWpjb-0003iU-IH-0003jf."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:07:35 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DWpjb-0003iU-IH; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:02:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWpjb-0003iU-IH; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:02:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWpjb-0006l7-G9; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:02:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWpjM-0007w7-2w; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:02:32 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4E60n412438 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:00:49 +0100 Received: from desire.actrix.co.nz (desire.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.164]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4E60fl12295 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:00:48 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from rpc.home.co.nz (ak-d122.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.122]) by desire.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2989D153A8 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:00:20 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:23:48 +1200 From: David Love To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan Message-ID: <93e7a26a4d.zed@actrix.co.nz> References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message David Pilling wrote: > >> This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images > >> and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It > >> occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the > >> default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this > >> possible? > >Yes I would also love to see this also. > > I was surprised to find this setting is not saved. ISTR being asked for > this feature in the past. > > If you wanted to arrange this right now, you'd have to unsqueeze the run > image and find the right word to change from 0 to 1, hint there are a > couple of 100's right next to it... How do I do this, please? Is it achievable by the technically challenged? :-) David -- David Love Happiness is a way of seeing good in everything and everybody. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 14 14:17:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DWwMa-00034k-Hu-00035m."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:17:27 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DWwMa-00034k-Hu; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:07:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWwMa-00034k-Hu; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:07:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWwMa-00068S-CA; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:07:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWwM8-0004Oy-N1; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:07:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4ED6b215358 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:06:37 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4ED6aq15355 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:06:36 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from b-180-24-31.ma.dial.de.ignite.net [62.180.24.31] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1DWwLj2Kqb-0005lL; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:06:35 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:07:37 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan Message-ID: <8dd5e86a4d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.12 (MsgServe/3.00) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message David Pilling wrote: > >> This excellent application is my default choice for viewing images > >> and often I use the Scale function to enlarge/reduce the image. It > >> occurred to me that it would be very convenient if I could alter the > >> default so that "Lock aspect ratio" was permanently ticked. Is this > >> possible? > >Yes I would also love to see this also. > > I was surprised to find this setting is not saved. ISTR being asked for > this feature in the past. While we are at it: Is the "New format" option the default and can it be saved? At the moment, ArtWorks 2 does not like non-deep new format sprites (yes, sooner or later I will address that), so 256 colour sprites saved by DPlngScan with the "New format" option on are refused by ArtWorks. I think that the default way of saving sprites with 256 colours or less should be the standard RISC OS 3.1 format for maximum compatibility. The only benefit of using new format for indexed colour sprites is the 1bpp mask, but then as soon as you want a palette as well, you lose RISC OS 3.5 compatiblity, too, so I wonder whether it is really worth it. At least, I think this option should be off by default. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 14 14:17:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DWwQe-0005KV-Gk-0005Li."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:17:27 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DWwQe-0005KV-Gk; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:11:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWwQe-0005KV-Gk; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:11:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DWwQd-000491-Vq; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:11:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DWwQY-0001NO-Su; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:11:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4EDBUp16132 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:11:30 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4EDBUo16126 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:11:30 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DWwQT-000JtX-7t for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:11:29 +0000 Message-ID: <$AA9MQA4ifhCFwNa@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:10:16 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4d6ac2949cdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4d6ac2949cdfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I get "Unrecognised squeeze format". Get an up to date copy of unsqueeze (ISTR there is one inside the Patch/Freshen program on my web site). But seriously, this is a complex job, not to be undertaken lightly. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 14 22:27:51 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DX45o-0007Wq-Nf-0007Xd."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:27:51 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DX45o-0007Wq-Nf; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:22:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DX45o-0007Wq-Nf; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:22:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DX45o-0002Y4-5i; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:22:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DX45Q-0002xh-KD; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:22:16 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4ELLX127656 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:21:33 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4ELLWK27652 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:21:33 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DX41Y-000AYd-4c for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:18:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:19:54 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <8dd5e86a4d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <8dd5e86a4d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >While we are at it: Is the "New format" option the default and can it be >saved? You can save it, with choices. Getting the wrong value for this has upset one or two people. >compatiblity, too, so I wonder whether it is really worth it. At least, I >think this option should be off by default. I'm sure you're right. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 20 13:53:37 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DYzPV-0002KW-M6-0002Ko."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:53:37 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DYzPV-0002KW-M6; Fri, 20 May 2005 04:46:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DYzPV-0002KW-M6; Fri, 20 May 2005 04:46:57 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DYzPV-0005xl-Md; Fri, 20 May 2005 04:46:57 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DYzPG-0002Sf-Mu; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:46:42 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DYzP2-0004ks-09; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:46:28 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4K4g6m09972 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:42:06 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4K4g6f09968 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:42:06 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DYzHX-000Cbd-4C for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 20 May 2005 04:38:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 05:42:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] scanners Message-ID: <4d6dd711c7charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Does anyone know of an A3 scanner that works with DPSS? I have found a Mustek but Castle's site no longer gives any relevant info. I suppose I could ask them tomorrow, but has anyone first hand experience? -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 20 14:13:31 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DZ7Eq-0003u3-Iv-0003uw."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:13:31 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DZ7Eq-0003u3-Iv; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:08:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DZ7Eq-0003u3-Iv; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:08:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DZ7Eq-0002E7-JD; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:08:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DZ7C6-0000MO-JE; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:05:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4KD1ho13537 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:01:43 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4KD1hm13531 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:01:43 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DZ78E-0009Wl-MS for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:01:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:59:56 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] scanners References: <4d6dd711c7charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6dd711c7charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Does anyone know of an A3 scanner that works with DPSS? These are dim recollections, so may not be correct. Mustek did an A3 scanner and Castle got their version of my driver working with them. That was a long time ago, so you're talking SCSI interface. I'd doubt these are still available and it is perhaps unlikely they will be available second hand. The other option was Epson. Epsons should be OK as long as they use the standard Epson command set - as we've said here recently many new Epsons don't. I do believe people successfully used A3 Epson scanners with my software in the past. I suppose other options are photo stitching software or using a digital camera. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:11 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Da12r-0006zb-O6-000709."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:11 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Da12r-0006zb-O6; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:43:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Da12r-0006zb-O6; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:43:49 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Da12r-0005Ga-Ah; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:43:49 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Da0yj-0000Zt-C9; Mon, 23 May 2005 01:39:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4MLM3C22150 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:03 +0100 Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4MLM2122145 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:02 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from bri.ww.co.nz (port-219-88-142-185.orcon.net.nz [219.88.142.185]) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4MLLl1e020259 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:21:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: list To: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:21:31 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Master Page Crashes v2.75 Message-ID: <4d6f3a3bablists@ww.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Is there a limitation on Opro (v.2.75) whereby a circle frame must NOT be in the same position as one of the same size on the master page? I have had several crashes immediately after pressing enter on the final dimension, described below. I'm making a CD label. Menu=>New... Ctrl-E to open Master page. Draw circle frames X 45 Y 26 W 118 H 118 X 157 Y 22 W 40 H 40 Close Master window Save file Draw the same circle frame X 45 Y 26 W 118 H 118 X 157 Y 22 W 40 H 40... Internal Error, no stack for trap handler Internal Error, abort on data fetch at &FFFC58AC, pc=FFFC58A8; registers at 00319EDC The crash happens sometimes after making the first circle. And other times when I selected two circles on the Master page then closed the window. At one point I got this error: Internal Error, no stack for trap handler Internal Error, abort on instruction fetch at &FFFC58AC, pc=FFFC58A8; registers at 00319EDC Comments? Don't make another frame where there's already on on the master page? -- Brian Adam Auckland NEW ZEALAND -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:19 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaEhc-0006Tg-Fm-0006Um."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:19 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaEhc-0006Tg-Fm; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:18:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaEhc-0006Tg-Fm; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:18:48 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaEhc-0002jE-LN; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:18:48 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaEXp-0003cg-F2; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:08:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NBojd09821 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:50:45 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NBojQ09815 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:50:45 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaBSG-0001Tf-Fq for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:50:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:49:55 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-ID: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the error: "Not enough memory" and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of these, meaning I should reboot each time. I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max size (Choices) but neither made any difference. Any views on how I might proceed? I would prefer not to have to make 10 separate booklets, each containing a few pictures. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaI8u-0006f5-7P-0006fr."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaI8u-0006f5-7P; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:59:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaI8u-0006f5-7P; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:59:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaI8u-0005RM-3o; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:59:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaI43-00013V-H7; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:54:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NFaUs23629 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:36:30 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NFaUM23625 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:36:30 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaEyj-000A0Y-6r for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:36:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:38:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > error: > "Not enough memory" > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. > I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > these, meaning I should reboot each time. > I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max > size (Choices) but neither made any difference. > Any views on how I might proceed? I would prefer not to have to make > 10 separate booklets, each containing a few pictures. Chapter 10 Large Picture Support. There are options so it's best reading through to see which is best for you. -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:26 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaKc0-0000mu-QR-0000nP."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:26 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaKc0-0000mu-QR; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:37:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaKc0-0000mu-QR; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:37:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaKc0-0006tf-1O; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:37:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaKUQ-0001GZ-J8; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:29:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NICJU22852 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:12:19 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NICJX22848 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:12:19 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaHMC-000Kiz-5K for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:08:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:12:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > error: Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaMH2-0002rp-BR-0002sM."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:27 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaMH2-0002rp-BR; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:23:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaMH2-0002rp-BR; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:23:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaMH2-0003Jx-Cz; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:23:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaMDJ-0003BH-Rt; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:20:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NK2n224289 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:02:49 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NK2mk24279 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:02:49 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaJ56-000Iw4-3k for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:59:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:53:02 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6fb5f7f6Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > these, meaning I should reboot each time. Dynamic areas can be freed, using the appropriate SWIs. There are lots of utilities around which will do this (assuming that RO 5 doesn't allow it from the task manager display?). I've emailed you a copy of my utility, which works in RO 3.70 and hopefully also in RO 5. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:28 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaMSm-0004RW-3x-0004U9."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:28 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaMSm-0004RW-3x; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaMSm-0004RW-3x; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaMSl-0004HE-W1; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaMKj-0005ys-AR; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:27:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NKARo26138 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:10:27 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NKARR26134 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:10:27 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [62.188.156.90] (helo=62.188.156.90) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 1DaJ6W-0002VN-Kg for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:00:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mr S A O Yandell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:15:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6fad0713steyan@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > error: > "Not enough memory" > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. > I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > these, meaning I should reboot each time. > I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max > size (Choices) but neither made any difference. > Any views on how I might proceed? I would prefer not to have to make > 10 separate booklets, each containing a few pictures. Have you tried using referenced pictures, which allows you to use low resolution versions in the computer document, but invokes the full resolution on printing. (Consult the manual!) If you do find this helps, beware if you save the file to CD: the file path to the full pictures needs to be clear. HTH Steve Yandell -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ steyan@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:34 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaPrp-0005zj-Mg-00060G."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:34 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaPrp-0005zj-Mg; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:14:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaPrp-0005zj-Mg; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:14:05 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaPro-00009h-S8; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:14:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaPrF-00008s-9o; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:13:29 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NNpQd22218 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:51:26 +0100 Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NNpQB22215 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:51:26 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaMhf-0000JS-Nr for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:51:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:49:27 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 23 May, John Cartmell wrote: > In article , > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > > error: > > > "Not enough memory" > > > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. > > > I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. > > > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > > these, meaning I should reboot each time. > > > I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max > > size (Choices) but neither made any difference. > > > Any views on how I might proceed? I would prefer not to have to make > > 10 separate booklets, each containing a few pictures. > > Chapter 10 Large Picture Support. > There are options so it's best reading through to see which is best for > you. Thanks. Fx: Digs for CDROM. Muttered curses, Finds it! Reads ditto. /Fx Yes, glad to see it included referenced pictures as I had already found that got round the problem (which I wonder if anyone else can reproduce? Hence I have not snipped the problem in this note - before the snip police get at me!). Anyhow while inserting all those referenced pictures, I found another funny and a half, this time with the Insert pages option in Menu > Page > Insert page. I had set up a document with an additional frame of about three-quarters the size of the main page, in the master page. I started loading the pictures in one by one, adding one page at a time with Ctrl-P then thought it would be nice to add several new blank pages. But I could not use the above menu option to insert multiple pages, it ignored this and only added one. Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent new blank pages vanished. Why? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:41 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaSxb-0000d2-Dn-0000d5."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:41 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaSxb-0000d2-Dn; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaSxb-0000d2-Dn for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaSxb-0002Yl-47 for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaSvH-0005RK-1m; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:29:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NNSWF17394 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:28:32 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NNSVl17391 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:28:31 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050523232831.GXNG9046.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:28:31 +0100 Received: from dad ([80.3.74.164]) by aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050523232831.QDIY18002.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@dad> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:28:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:58:38 +0100 From: Andy Wingate To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4D6FC6F5E9%andy-l@sparse.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Non-zero Probability User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 X-Magic-Word: XYZZY X-Location: Brighton, UK X-URL: http://www.sparse.net X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (05 May 2005) Snapshot, ZapEmail 0.28.3 (25 Mar 2005) (32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > error: > "Not enough memory" > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. Presumably not, however, the Wilhelm scream: > I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. > > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > these, meaning I should reboot each time. Stefan Bellon's DAK (Dynamic Area Killer) should help you to remove the stagnant Dynamic Area without needing to reboot. > I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max > size (Choices) but neither made any difference. You are hitting the 128M Dynamic Area limit set by !Boot.Choices.PreDesk.DALimit (.DALimit). See a recent thread on iyonix-support 'Getting PhotoDesk to work.' It is set at that level to prevent programs which ask for the maximum size of Dynamic Area grabbing up all the address space. You may be able to increase it to 256M by changing the second 128*1024*1024 in the DALimit BASIC program to 256*1024*1024 if you absolutely need to. John's suggestion of investigating 'Large Picture Support' (p141) may be more useful and make the document easier to handle. In the Picture Choices, you can set a maximum filesize over which an image will be proxied or referenced. -- Andy Wingate OpenPGP key 0xC642BF8A You're at the end of the road again. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:42 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaSxd-0004sI-Ow-0004sP."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:42 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaSxd-0004sI-Ow; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaSxd-0004sI-Ow for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaSxd-0006Ml-IM for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:32:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaSvA-0005RK-96; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:29:44 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4NNVOg18071 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:31:24 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4NNVOV18067 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:31:24 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaMOI-0004Wc-2w for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 00:31:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:26:42 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <9887c96f4d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 23 May, I wrote: > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > error: > > "Not enough memory" > > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. > > I'm running OPro 2.75 on a 512 Mbyte Iyonix. I'm not running Aemulor. > > After the collapse, there is left behind a Dynamic Area for OPro of > 121,312K in size. Each succesive crash leaves behind another one of > these, meaning I should reboot each time. > > I've tried increasing the wimpslot (in Run) and the picture cache max > size (Choices) but neither made any difference. > > Any views on how I might proceed? I would prefer not to have to make > 10 separate booklets, each containing a few pictures. > I've discovered can get round the problem by loading the pictures only by Reference. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:00:51 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaW9H-0002Tj-HK-0002V4."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:51 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaW9H-0002Tj-HK; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaW9H-0002Tj-HK; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaW9H-0004Nd-77; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DaW5V-0000BY-Up; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:52:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4O6ZLP21895 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:35:21 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4O6ZLW21886 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:35:21 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaT0a-000J4N-Bq for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:35:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:31:04 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6ff061e0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: [Snip] > I had set up a document with an additional frame of about three-quarters > the size of the main page, in the master page. I started loading the > pictures in one by one, adding one page at a time with Ctrl-P then > thought it would be nice to add several new blank pages. But I could > not use the above menu option to insert multiple pages, it ignored this > and only added one. > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > new blank pages vanished. Why? Menu > Misc > Preferences. Is "Auto page delete" ticked? If it is, you'll get that effect. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:00 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Dafsy-0007QU-Jd-0007Qk."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:00 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Dafsy-0007QU-Jd; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:20:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Dafsy-0007QU-Jd; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:20:20 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Dafsx-0007HS-Rc; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:20:19 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DafsZ-0007L5-LS; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:19:55 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DafsJ-0007Ak-PB; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:19:39 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4OG5QH03763 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 17:05:26 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4OG5Q003760 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 17:05:26 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050524160521.KRMH9046.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 17:05:21 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050524160521.HJEK29369.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 17:05:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:51:46 +0100 Message-ID: <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> charles wrote: > In article , > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >> I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging >> around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the >> error: > > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. > That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:05 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DagQV-0004IH-3b-0004Ic."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:05 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DagQV-0004IH-3b; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:54:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DagQV-0004IH-3b; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:54:59 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DagQU-0005Fk-Ud; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:54:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DagOf-0004IQ-OG; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:53:05 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DagNw-0001WA-FW; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:52:20 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4O8xdC26118 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:59:39 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4O8xbf26107 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:59:39 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaVCr-000CVc-Ha for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:56:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:02:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6ffe3b6fjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > Chapter 10 Large Picture Support. > > There are options so it's best reading through to see which is best for > > you. > Thanks. > Fx: Digs for CDROM. Muttered curses, Finds it! Reads ditto. /Fx Unless you're limited for room why not copy the manual onto your hard drive? In my ignorance I have to refer to the friendly manual on a regular basis and there is no way I'd be able to put my hand on a free-floating CD. ;-) -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:05 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaijL-0006Nk-S4-0006Nv."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:05 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaijL-0006Nk-S4; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaijL-0006Nk-S4; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:22:35 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaijL-00050z-Ha; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:22:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Daij2-0002nL-58; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:22:16 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Daiie-0003kH-2h; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:21:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4O9fF518839 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:41:15 +0100 Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-05.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.26]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4O9fF718826 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:41:15 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.224.215) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.0.043) id 42534ED100368ED5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:41:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:41:25 +0100 From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <554d07704d.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message you wrote: snip > > Anyhow while inserting all those referenced pictures, I found another > funny and a half, this time with the Insert pages option in Menu > Page > > Insert page. and snip some more > > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > new blank pages vanished. Why? Because it is how the program works. See the manual 11.8 (page 159). The text in the 5th paragraph on that page hints at a possible solution. Add a page, enter a small dummy sprite on that page. Then insert as many pages as you want before the page with the dummy sprite. JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:06 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DajFD-00071u-MS-000723."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:06 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DajFD-00071u-MS; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:55:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DajFD-00071u-MS; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:55:31 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DajFD-0002BX-PI; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:55:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DajEy-0004Wb-Pn; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:55:16 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DajEQ-0008C2-C2; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:54:42 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4O94b528499 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:04:37 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4O94bw28496 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:04:37 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaVHh-000Euk-IL for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:01:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:06:42 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > new blank pages vanished. Why? I don't think it's anything to do with referencing. If you produce a string of blank pages then ignore them and work on an earlier page they will sulk and disappear. I don't produce the blank pages until I'm ready to add some content; in that case they are happy to hang around and wait for you to reach them with your full-page-worth of goodies. -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:11 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Dal65-0005Cw-3u-0005D3."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:11 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Dal65-0005Cw-3u; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:54:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Dal65-0005Cw-3u; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:54:13 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Dal64-0005Ot-TM; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:54:13 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Dal5f-0007Ep-Ad; Wed, 25 May 2005 02:53:47 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dal5Z-0004Ou-GP; Wed, 25 May 2005 02:53:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4O9Jb203317 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:19:37 +0100 Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (fuzznuts.plus.net [212.159.14.133] (may be forged)) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4O9JbE03313 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:19:37 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaVZU-0005oV-Ab for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:19:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:19:10 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: References: <4D6FC6F5E9%andy-l@sparse.net> In-Reply-To: <4D6FC6F5E9%andy-l@sparse.net> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 23 May, Andy Wingate wrote: > In message > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > > I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > > around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > > error: > > > "Not enough memory" > > > and dies, sometimes making a disturbing noise with the hard disc. > > Presumably not, however, the Wilhelm scream: > That only sounds like a tired crow from our back garden - nothing blood curdling about it at all, or not via Oregano2 to the tinny Iyonix speaker. > You are hitting the 128M Dynamic Area limit set by > !Boot.Choices.PreDesk.DALimit (.DALimit). See a recent > thread on iyonix-support 'Getting PhotoDesk to work.' > > It is set at that level to prevent programs which ask for the maximum > size of Dynamic Area grabbing up all the address space. You may be > able to increase it to 256M by changing the second 128*1024*1024 in > the DALimit BASIC program to 256*1024*1024 if you absolutely need to. Brilliant and many thanks. I had thought of Aemulor as a cause but not for one moment had remembered this tiny prog. > John's suggestion of investigating 'Large Picture Support' (p141) may > be more useful and make the document easier to handle. In the Picture > Choices, you can set a maximum filesize over which an image will be > proxied or referenced. Indeed yes and I had slowly worked that out in the silence following Wakefield. The file is currently a mere 57k holding 22 piccies totalling 354M, all nice a ready to go to the printer when I've got an hour or two for no other computing activities. Then there are a further 41 pics to go into another file. Many thanks for the expert guidance. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:22 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DasbE-0006Rf-8J-0006S5."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:22 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DasbE-0006Rf-8J; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:54:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DasbE-0006Rf-8J; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:54:52 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DasbE-00056n-80; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:54:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DasWp-0002Vh-TK; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:50:19 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DasW8-0006UD-1p; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:49:36 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P5Y1d29663 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:34:01 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P5Y1c29657 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:34:01 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DaoWm-000FhF-Fe for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 05:34:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 06:32:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com>, Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> > charles wrote: > > In article , > > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > >> I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > >> around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > >> error: > > > > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. > > > That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( > Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? It's all in the manual. Section 10.10 in the new (CD) version. Drag the picture into the frame while holding down -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DatM9-0006Ny-O5-0006OS."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DatM9-0006Ny-O5; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:43:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DatM9-0006Ny-O5; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:43:21 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DatM9-00079z-8a; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:43:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DatJ9-0002aR-QJ; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:40:15 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dasor-0002TB-CV; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:08:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P5rat04406 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:53:36 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P5raa04403 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:53:36 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Daopj-000LJl-8S for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 05:53:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 06:35:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d706f2735charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com>, Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> > charles wrote: > > In article , > > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > >> I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging > >> around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the > >> error: > > > > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. > > > That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( > Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? See chapter 10 in the new (CD) version of the manual. Basically, drag in the picture while holding down . -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DatkP-0003DW-MD-0003Du."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DatkP-0003DW-MD; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:08:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DatkP-0003DW-MD; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:08:25 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DatkP-0000VJ-OG; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:08:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DatkC-0006KL-1W; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:08:12 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DatkB-0003bk-6I; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:08:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P6rZU19391 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:53:35 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P6rZg19387 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:53:35 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DapiQ-000LSM-6N for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:50:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:38:49 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d7074ed6echarles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4D6FC6F5E9%andy-l@sparse.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: [Snip] > Indeed yes and I had slowly worked that out in the silence following > Wakefield. The file is currently a mere 57k holding 22 piccies > totalling 354M, all nice a ready to go to the printer when I've got an > hour or two for no other computing activities. make sure that the references still work when you copy it all onto CD to send away. I've been caught once. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DauCW-0003rk-6N-0003sm."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DauCW-0003rk-6N; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:37:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauCW-0003rk-6N; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:37:28 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauCW-0003Bn-P0; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:37:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DauBu-0007Wx-3F; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:36:50 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DauBs-0002r3-G5; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:36:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P7Mpo28888 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:22:51 +0100 Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P7Mol28885 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:22:50 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaqE2-0006LG-H6 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:22:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:21:44 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <2fdb78704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ff061e0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6ff061e0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 24 May, charles wrote: > In article , > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > [Snip] > > > I had set up a document with an additional frame of about three-quarters > > the size of the main page, in the master page. I started loading the > > pictures in one by one, adding one page at a time with Ctrl-P then > > thought it would be nice to add several new blank pages. But I could > > not use the above menu option to insert multiple pages, it ignored this > > and only added one. > > > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > > new blank pages vanished. Why? > > Menu > Misc > Preferences. Is "Auto page delete" ticked? If it is, you'll > get that effect. It was ticked, it isn't now and I can insert multiple pages with no problems. Many thanks. (Sounds like a quicke glance at the manual on this one is in order.) -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DauSC-0000Xb-LR-0000Xp."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DauSC-0000Xb-LR; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:53:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauSC-0000Xb-LR; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:53:40 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauSC-0001re-Er; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:53:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DauRT-0005Wi-1f; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:52:55 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DauRR-00060C-J4; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:52:53 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P7d3w03864 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:39:03 +0100 Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P7d2303860 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:39:02 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaqTm-0001mY-GO for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:39:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:38:52 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <116d7a704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 24 May, Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> > charles wrote: > > > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. > > > That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( > Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? Prepare a new frame or the right size and in the right place. Find your picture file. Shift-drag this picture file to the frame. Observe the Proxy and References window appear. Tick the References button (it is pre-ticked on subsequent drags). Click OK and ... Bingo. Very useful for putting logos on your standard letter form. And for lots of other purposes. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DaucL-0001cP-CD-0001cq."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DaucL-0001cP-CD; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:04:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaucL-0001cP-CD; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:04:09 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DaucK-00076T-RF; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:04:09 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DauIR-00010L-6F; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:43:35 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DauGa-0003A6-TU; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:41:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P7RmD30310 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:27:48 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P7RmL30299 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:27:48 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaqIt-0000yd-Me for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:27:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:25:50 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 24 May, John Cartmell wrote: > In article , > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > > new blank pages vanished. Why? > > I don't think it's anything to do with referencing. If you produce a string > of blank pages then ignore them and work on an earlier page they will sulk > and disappear. I don't produce the blank pages until I'm ready to add some > content; in that case they are happy to hang around and wait for you to > reach them with your full-page-worth of goodies. Things should nto happen unexpectedly. (The corrollorary to Ockhams razor?) Anyhow the pages don't vanish with Misc > Preferences > Auto page delete unticked. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 17:01:25 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DauiG-00065s-Cn-00066B."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:01:25 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DauiG-00065s-Cn; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:10:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauiG-00065s-Cn; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:10:16 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DauiG-0006n5-MS; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:10:16 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DauLN-0007Dc-0c; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:46:37 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DauLM-00012X-EV; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:46:36 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4P7Wn232309 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32:49 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay04.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4P7Wn132301 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32:49 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DaqNk-0004NF-IQ for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32:08 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <33cf79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <554d07704d.janvred@smile.ch> In-Reply-To: <554d07704d.janvred@smile.ch> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.06-ds.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message of 24 May, JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > In message you wrote: > > snip > > > > Anyhow while inserting all those referenced pictures, I found another > > funny and a half, this time with the Insert pages option in Menu > Page > > > Insert page. > > and snip some more > > > > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > > new blank pages vanished. Why? > > Because it is how the program works. See the manual 11.8 (page 159). Indeed it seems to say this, though there is a "possibly" about it in the penultimate paragraph of the first column. > The text in the 5th paragraph on that page hints at a possible solution. > Add a page, enter a small dummy sprite on that page. Then insert as many > pages as you want before the page with the dummy sprite. I suspect something has changed as this problem does not occur with Misc > Preferences > Auto delete pages unticked. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org              For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 19:40:08 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db0fl-0001rm-Fn-0001rw."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:40:08 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db0fl-0001rm-Fn; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:32:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db0fl-0001rm-Fn; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:32:05 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db0fl-000259-Ms; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:32:05 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db0eg-00078O-AB; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:30:58 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db0dk-0007w8-Ov; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:30:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PEFur14489 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:15:56 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout16.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.16]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PEFtl14480 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:15:55 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050525141555.MLNO26549.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:15:55 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050525141554.KPLC8884.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:15:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:22:31 +0100 Message-ID: <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> charles wrote: > In article <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com>, > Alan Leighton wrote: >> In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> >> charles wrote: > >> > In article , >> > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >> >> I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging >> >> around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the >> >> error: >> > >> > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. >> > >> That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( >> Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? > > It's all in the manual. Section 10.10 in the new (CD) version. > > Drag the picture into the frame while holding down >I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers What have I done wrong? Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 21:50:14 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db2iD-0002aW-LM-0002ad."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:50:14 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db2iD-0002aW-LM; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:42:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db2iD-0002aW-LM; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:42:45 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db2iD-00016y-F9; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:42:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db2f8-0006wU-Mo; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:39:34 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db2ea-0001Nd-1r; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:39:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PGP4504784 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:25:04 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PGP4S04772 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:25:04 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Daygo-000FZT-Li for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:25:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:36:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d709b2952Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d6fad0713steyan@argonet.co.uk> References: <4d6fad0713steyan@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d6fad0713steyan@argonet.co.uk>, Mr S A O Yandell wrote > If you do find this helps, beware if you save the file to CD: the > file path to the full pictures needs to be clear. If you look in a DDL version of an OP document which has referenced pictures you'll see something like: PICTURE_117={picture {reference "IDEFS::Elf.$.Crosswords.OPexpts.ImageRefs.Spriteg"} } However something like this also works: PICTURE_117={picture {reference ".Spriteg"} } and that means you can use setting a system variable as a means of including one set of pictures or another set. The whole document and the pictures can be copied from one directory to another, and provided you reset the definition of your system variable the pictures will still be found. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 25 23:40:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db4Xl-0006N6-KB-0006NL."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:40:21 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db4Xl-0006N6-KB; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:40:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db4Xl-0006N6-KB; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:40:05 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db4Xl-0003rv-2p; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:40:05 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db4Vq-0008Pj-S3; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:38:06 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db4Vg-000403-By; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:37:56 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PINtp08365 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:23:55 +0100 Received: from mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout19.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.19]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PINs208362 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:23:54 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050525182350.FVKP12530.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:23:50 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050525182350.NGSO2626.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:23:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:30:25 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> charles wrote: > In article <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com>, > Alan Leighton wrote: >> In message <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> >> charles wrote: > >> > In article , >> > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >> >> I'm trying to construct a booklet of rather large pictures, averaging >> >> around 10M each. After loading in about 12 of these OPro gives the >> >> error: >> > >> > Reference the pictures, rather than importing them. >> > >> That seems difficult but then so does so much for me 8-( >> Could you list out how to do it in a very simply way...please? > > It's all in the manual. Section 10.10 in the new (CD) version. > > Drag the picture into the frame while holding down I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers What have I done wrong? Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:20:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db58W-0002yO-Pl-00030p."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:20:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db58W-0002yO-Pl; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:18:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db58W-0002yO-Pl; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:18:04 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db58W-0006oA-Ql; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:18:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db57U-0000eQ-Tq; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:17:00 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db55l-0004tj-Gc; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:15:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PJ0H622124 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:00:17 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PJ0ER22082 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:00:15 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db13c-000Llx-J5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:56:45 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:58:57 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> Drag the picture into the frame while holding down >>I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers >What have I done wrong? What happens? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:30:22 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db5JA-0007GA-Kk-0007HI."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:30:22 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db5JA-0007GA-Kk; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5JA-0007GA-Kk; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:04 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5JA-0000c1-87; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db57y-0007Ty-Gz; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:17:30 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db55m-0008Od-Nb; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:15:14 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PJ0HO22119 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:00:17 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PJ0EG22081 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:00:15 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db13c-000Llw-J5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:56:45 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:58:34 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Master Page Crashes v2.75 References: <4d6f3a3bablists@ww.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <4d6f3a3bablists@ww.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Is there a limitation on Opro (v.2.75) whereby a circle frame must NOT >be in the >same position as one of the same size on the master page? I have had several >crashes immediately after pressing enter on the final dimension, described >below. I'm making a CD label. I can only plead guilty. If you stick a frame exactly on top of another of the same size then things may go wrong. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:30:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db5JR-0007Pt-48-0007Q1."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:30:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db5JR-0007Pt-48; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5JR-0007Pt-48; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:21 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5JR-0002Gv-4G; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db58p-0003CK-JB; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:18:23 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db56X-0004h4-Mg; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:16:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PJ1bX22724 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:01:37 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PJ1aj22718 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:01:37 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db14w-000Lxp-IL for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:58:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:00:21 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >From: Jeremy Brayshaw In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Then I added several pages, one after another; this worked. But when I > put a (referenced) picture into the first new page, all the subsequent > new blank pages vanished. Why? From the document window, look at menu > misc > preferences and you'll see two tick boxes - auto page insert and auto page delete. Both are ticked by default. Untick the auto page delete and the created empty pages should stay there. OPro adds new pages when text overflows the bottom of a page (but only in a 'master' frame) - that's the auto>page>insert option. It looks occasionally to see if blank pages are present at the end of the document, and deletes them if they are present (auto>page>delete). So what's happening is that you're creating blank pages, then OPro looks and finds blank pages so kindly deletes them for you! You can get round it by either unticking the option(s) mentioned above, or adding an empty frame to the last created page before OPro does this check! (It does this check, I believe, whenever it needs to re-format the document, such as by adding/removing/altering pictures or text) -- Jeremy Brayshaw -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:30:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db5Jj-0000YU-E1-0000YY."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:30:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db5Jj-0000YU-E1; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5Jj-0000YU-E1; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:39 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5Jj-0000lj-5k; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db5Ci-0005WE-6i; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:22:24 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db5C4-0000hU-8J; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:21:44 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PJ7oV24551 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:07:50 +0100 Received: from mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout19.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.19]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PJ7oE24547 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:07:50 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050525190750.PZZW12530.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:07:50 +0100 Received: from risco.home ([81.110.160.151]) by aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050525190750.LPFG18138.aamta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:07:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:07:25 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: All Pages Odd (was "Not enough memory") To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In on Wed 25 May, Alan Leighton wrote: >I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers > > What have I done wrong? > > Alan Are you displaying facing pages in a window only wide enough for 1 page so you only see the odd numbered pages (right hand of the pair)? This gives the impression of odd numbered pages only, but the width of the horizontal scroll bar gives a clue. Is the document set for Double Sided but with a master frame only on the right (odd number) master page auto-linked to itself? No just tested that and adding text to overflow the first page still gives the blank even numbered page in the document. Further details may be required a better diagnosis and solution. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:40:23 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db5LF-0000az-L8-0000b9."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:40:23 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db5LF-0000az-L8; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:31:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5LF-0000az-L8; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:31:13 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5LF-0001AB-Bh; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:31:13 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db59i-0003CK-BG; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:19:18 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db57D-0004nq-Qw; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:16:43 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PJ2tg23370 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:02:55 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PJ2tW23367 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:02:55 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db16E-000M7b-Iy for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:59:26 +0000 Message-ID: <6CZcc2ENuMlCFwdN@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:01:33 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: <9127fb674d.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4d6803b736mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <8dd5e86a4d.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >From: Chris Manning In message <4d6ac2949cdfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: >> If you wanted to arrange this right now, you'd have to unsqueeze the >> run image and find the right word to change from 0 to 1, hint there >> are a couple of 100's right next to it... This seems to make the necessary changes to the version of DPlngScan that I have here. # Patch to make "Lock aspect ratio" the default for # Edit -> Scale with DPlngScan 1.21. Application:!DPlngScan &2000 Description:Scanning software Patch:Changes scale default to "Lock aspect ratio" File:!DPlngScan.!RunImage &FF8 Transform:Squeeze Location:&80 VerifyString:(06-Oct-04)<0> Location:&93154 VerifyWord:&64 VerifyWord:&64 Location:&93150 ChangeWord:&0 &1 > I get "Unrecognised squeeze format". I presume you're using xpand, possibly wrapped in a suitable alias? *xpand -h xpand vsn 5.08 [15 Oct 2002] - takes an executable AIF image or data file compressed by 'squeeze' and decompresses it to reproduce the original image (possibly with an extra 4 bytes of zeros on the end). syntax: xpand [] That version worked OK when I tried it. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 00:50:24 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db5Wd-0007N2-OE-0007ND."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:50:24 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db5Wd-0007N2-OE; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:42:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5Wd-0007N2-OE; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:42:59 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db5Wd-00016Z-AT; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:42:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db4zK-0001Yr-DI; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:08:34 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db4yn-0007Yj-Kk; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:08:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PIs8G18928 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:54:08 +0100 Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PIs8o18922 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:54:08 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from RiscPC (81-178-150-77.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.150.77]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F9EE0000D3 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:54:07 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:24:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 25 May, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > (The corrollorary to Ockhams > razor?) Corollary - aren't doubled consonants fun? Occam. (Why do people have strange names? Um, yes, I know, sin- stone - throw) -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 03:00:31 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db7cJ-0007DR-FF-0007E1."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 03:00:31 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db7cJ-0007DR-FF; Thu, 26 May 2005 01:57:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db7cJ-0007DR-FF; Thu, 26 May 2005 01:56:59 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db7cJ-0004X5-Ik; Thu, 26 May 2005 01:56:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db7Uj-0000h6-NY; Thu, 26 May 2005 02:49:09 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db7UN-0007sK-VN; Thu, 26 May 2005 02:48:47 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PLYo003320 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:34:50 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PLYor03316 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:34:50 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db3Wb-000Crc-EV for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:34:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:17 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" References: <4d6fad0713steyan@argonet.co.uk> <4d709b2952Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d709b2952Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> If you do find this helps, beware if you save the file to CD: the >> file path to the full pictures needs to be clear. >and that means you can use setting a system variable as a means of >including one set of pictures or another set. I think you can enter these paths in a dialogue box - no need to start hacking. There is an option to save image paths in a document relative form - thus allowing portability, and there is a function that does this for you and "collects" all the images together for you (all in the manual). However you're quite right, a path variable can be another useful technique. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 14:43:09 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Db9hP-0005Sd-NS-0005Sk."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:43:09 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Db9hP-0005Sd-NS; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:10:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db9hP-0005Sd-NS; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:10:23 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Db9hP-0005tp-3U; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:10:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Db9f2-0006ce-Gp; Thu, 26 May 2005 05:07:57 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Db9eN-0007x0-6Q; Thu, 26 May 2005 05:07:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4PNrNg05663 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:53:23 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4PNrNe05660 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:53:23 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Db5gh-0009d7-9t for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:53:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:53:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d70d3a730john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com>, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 25 May, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > (The corrollorary to Ockhams > > razor?) > Corollary - aren't doubled consonants fun? > Occam. (Why do people have strange names? Um, yes, I know, sin- stone - > throw) Ockham is the name of the village where William came from. ;-) -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 14:43:20 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbHTW-0000wW-7C-0000xF."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:43:20 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbHTW-0000wW-7C; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHTW-0000wW-7C; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:34 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHTU-0000Ax-Lf; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:34 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbHF1-0000TE-M1; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:13:35 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbHEr-0005xL-Su; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:13:25 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4Q7xDi27062 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:13 +0100 Received: from mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout18.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4Q7xC227059 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:12 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526075908.YDLA20297.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:08 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526075908.ZYEU29369.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:08 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: All Pages Odd (was "Not enough memory") To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:05:30 +0100 Message-ID: <09b300714d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Wed 25 May, Alan Leighton wrote: >>I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers >> >> What have I done wrong? >> >> Alan > > Are you displaying facing pages in a window only wide enough for 1 page so > you only see the odd numbered pages (right hand of the pair)? This gives the > impression of odd numbered pages only, but the width of the horizontal scroll > bar gives a clue. > > Is the document set for Double Sided but with a master frame only on the > right (odd number) master page auto-linked to itself? No just tested that > and adding text to overflow the first page still gives the blank even > numbered page in the document. > > Further details may be required a better diagnosis and solution. > Well Anthony I am sure you are right but still can't make it out. My pages are large and wide and numbered in odd numbers. Can I send you my manual for you to look at, Lost from M'bro! Alan > -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 14:43:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbHj8-0006Cp-MI-0006DM."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:43:21 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbHj8-0006Cp-MI; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:44:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHj8-0006Cp-MI; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:44:42 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHj8-0000a0-Nq; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:44:42 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbHd3-0001q5-IW; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:38:25 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbHcB-0007Nz-NT; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:37:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4Q8Ncc02716 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:23:38 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4Q8Ncl02713 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:23:38 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DbDb6-0009gk-3u for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:23:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <4d71025a3acharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d70d3a730john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4d6ffea16cjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <493b79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> <4d70d3a730john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4d70d3a730john@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell wrote: > In article <4d70b587f5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com>, > Steven Pampling wrote: > > On 25 May, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > > (The corrollorary to Ockhams > > > razor?) > > Corollary - aren't doubled consonants fun? > > Occam. (Why do people have strange names? Um, yes, I know, sin- stone - > > throw) > Ockham is the name of the village where William came from. ;-) only just over a mile from where I live. It has a pretty church which would have been standing in William's time. -- >From KT24 - in "leafy" Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 14:43:22 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbHk0-0001w6-Iw-0001xg."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:43:22 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbHk0-0001w6-Iw; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:45:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHk0-0001w6-Iw; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:45:36 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbHk0-0006lX-Kb; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:45:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbHIA-000740-2I; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:16:50 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbHHm-0003I7-L6; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:16:26 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4Q82JJ28340 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:19 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4Q82J728337 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:19 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526080218.WURP9046.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:18 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526080218.GXS29369.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message David Pilling wrote: >>> Drag the picture into the frame while holding down >>>I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers >>What have I done wrong? > > What happens? > I have odd pages in wide pages. It is if they are landscape and not A4 portrait. Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 15:53:07 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbJiL-0006Lo-Fb-0006MC."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:53:07 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbJiL-0006Lo-Fb; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:52:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbJiL-0006Lo-Fb; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:52:01 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbJiL-0002MP-Lk; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:52:01 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbJ2q-00073c-6t; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:09:08 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbJ2k-0004Ez-1e; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:09:02 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4Q9t5527048 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:55:05 +0100 Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-06.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4Q9t5L27044 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:55:05 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.225.105) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.0.043) id 428ABC3700075C2E for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:04 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:18 +0100 From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message you wrote: > > I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers > But are they all the *same* chapter? Check Infobar bottom left. A new chapter generally starts on the right-hand side, explaining the odd numbers. (Possibly wrong button on the Buttonbar??) If you only have one chapter it sounds as if your document is corrupted somehow. Save out as DDL file and reload that file. JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 26 16:53:10 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbKZU-0006e5-5j-0006fB."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:53:10 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbKZU-0006e5-5j; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:46:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbKZU-0006e5-5j; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:46:56 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbKZU-0001Zo-Ii; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:46:56 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbIcb-0002Tf-3p; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:42:01 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbIcY-0002n4-0w; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:41:58 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4Q9S0u09912 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:28:00 +0100 Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-06.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4Q9S0c09904 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:28:00 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.9.218) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.0.043) id 428ABC3700075716 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:28:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:14:45 +0100 From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" Message-ID: <5e880c714d.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4d6f9ea381john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <554d07704d.janvred@smile.ch> <33cf79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <33cf79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <33cf79704d.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > > I suspect something has changed as this problem does not occur with Misc > > Preferences > Auto delete pages unticked. > You are quite right. To be found in the manual (Risc version) on page 230. I seem to have forgotten a reference on page 160 to page 230. JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 27 00:13:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbRVP-0002Pe-PY-0002Px."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:13:33 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbRVP-0002Pe-PY; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:11:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbRVP-0002Pe-PY; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:11:11 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbRVP-0006Ll-Nw; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:11:11 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbRUe-0005wx-6U; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:10:24 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbRUR-0005KA-U7; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:10:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4QIuMW29015 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:56:22 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4QIuM429011 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:56:22 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526185617.BZKJ9046.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:56:17 +0100 Received: from risco.home ([81.110.160.151]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050526185617.CCJR8884.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@risco.home> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:56:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:46:33 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: All Pages Odd (was "Not enough memory") To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <09b300714d.alan@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In on Thu 26 May, Alan Leighton wrote: > In message > Anthony Hilton wrote: > > > In on Wed 25 May, Alan Leighton wrote: > >>I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers > >> > >> What have I done wrong? > >> > >> Alan > > > > Are you displaying facing pages in a window only wide enough for 1 page > > so you only see the odd numbered pages (right hand of the pair)? This > > gives the impression of odd numbered pages only, but the width of the > > horizontal scroll bar gives a clue. > > > > Is the document set for Double Sided but with a master frame only on the > > right (odd number) master page auto-linked to itself? No just tested > > that and adding text to overflow the first page still gives the blank > > even numbered page in the document. > > > > Further details may be required a better diagnosis and solution. > > > Well Anthony I am sure you are right but still can't make it out. > My pages are large and wide and numbered in odd numbers. > Can I send you my manual for you to look at, > > Lost from M'bro! > > Alan Certainly send me the file, if none of the other suggestions help. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 27 00:33:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbRht-0003AN-H2-0003AR."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:33:33 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbRht-0003AN-H2; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:24:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbRht-0003AN-H2; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:24:05 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.101] (helo=sh01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbRht-00067D-3d; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:24:05 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbRep-0007HY-Mf; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:20:55 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbRe6-0005T9-F8; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:20:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4QJ6OX32127 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:06:24 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4QJ6OT32124 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:06:24 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DbNd7-0003bx-5E for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:02:53 +0000 Message-ID: <4uycnYBh3hlCFwus@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:05:05 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <93619f704d.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I have odd pages in wide pages. It is if they are landscape and not A4 >portrait. I'd appreciate a bit more description of the problem and what you are doing. Are you talking about the Ovation Pro manual? or are you describing the effect of attempting to reference images? If the manual is the problem then the definitive version is on the CD - and can't be altered. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 27 01:33:36 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DbSgo-0001yB-E2-0001yX."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:33:36 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DbSgo-0001yB-E2; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:27:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbSgo-0001yB-E2; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:27:02 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DbSgo-0006EA-50; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:27:02 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DbSg7-00067W-7T; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:26:19 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DbSfe-0007S8-Ve; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:25:50 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j4QKC4214752 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:12:04 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j4QKC4V14748 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:12:04 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: from aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526201159.SNMR9046.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:11:59 +0100 Received: from Iyonix ([82.9.213.224]) by aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050526201159.HBDT10462.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Iyonix> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:11:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: "Not enough memory" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.04 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:18:36 +0100 Message-ID: <31d143714d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4d6facc441charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <0cc5f76f4d.alan@ntlworld.com> <4d706ee5e4charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.21 (MsgServe/3.05) (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > In message you wrote: > > >> >> I dont get it all my pages are odd numbers >> > > But are they all the *same* chapter? Check Infobar bottom left. A new > chapter generally starts on the right-hand side, explaining the odd > numbers. Cracked it. The pages are all there but when they load they show the right hand side(odd numbers) of a large pamphlet with the left hand side (even numbers) out of sight. Using the slider at the bottom sorts it or 50% view shows them side by side. Yes, I know, you all knew that. ;-) Blessings Alan -- Rev Dr Alan GC Leighton Priory Lodge, 86B Church Lane, Eston,TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jun 1 23:59:57 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DdcB0-0007KI-3n-0007KY."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:59:57 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DdcB0-0007KI-3n; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:59:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (helo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DdcB0-0007KI-3n; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:59:06 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DdcAz-0007nn-VA; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:59:06 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DdcAe-0000kn-5P; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:58:44 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DdcAN-00040Z-Qk; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:58:27 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j51IiJA13218 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:19 +0100 Received: from smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.35]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with SMTP id j51IiIC13212 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:19 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: (qmail 74638 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 18:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (paul?witheridge@82.15.63.237 with login) by smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 18:44:15 -0000 From: Paul Witheridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows - Creating Table of Contents and an Index Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:44:36 +0100 Organization: Marlow Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j51IiJC13214 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_10,FOR_FREE,HAS_ORGANIZATION,USER_AGENT_FORTE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I know that this subject has been raised before; but I am unable to find any clear guidance in the archives. I have just taken over as editor of a low circulation (and very low budget) magazine and intend to use OvnPro instead of MS Word (which all the previous editors used). I see OvnPro as much more capable than MS Word, except for tables of contents and indices. I shall be publishing both in hardcopy (A5 booklet in black and white only) and digital (A4 PDF in colour). Old copies of the magazine are only available in hardcopy (criminal loss of digital information by my predecessors!); but I can OCR them and republish in PDF digital form (using pdfFactory) so that the back numbers are readily available and can be searched for references. I need to create a TOC at the beginning of each issue, and I would like to create a master index covering all the issues (back to 1987 if I can). I can build the TOCs manually; although I would love an automated solution. A far as the index goes: am I right in thinking that the indexing applet is only available on RISCOS? Is there any other solution that applies to OvnPro for Windows? I realise I could export to OvnPro on RISCOS, and create the index there (although I am a complete beginner as far as the IdxPro Applet goes). If I do that, I am a little worried about page boundary shifts caused by font substitution. Are there other problems with such an approach? Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Paul Witheridge - Marlow, UK ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jun 2 00:09:56 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1DdcKm-000489-7M-00048L."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 00:09:56 +0100 Return-path: Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1DdcKm-000489-7M; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:09:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (helo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DdcKm-000489-7M; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:09:12 +0000 Received: from [195.13.65.102] (helo=sh02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DdcKm-0001wL-38; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:09:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by sh02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DdcKR-0006fM-OJ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:08:51 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DdcJL-0006dA-9i; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:07:43 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id j51IrpR16523 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:53:51 +0100 Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.34]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with SMTP id j51IrpS16516 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:53:51 +0100 Delivered-To: Received: (qmail 8597 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 18:53:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (paul?witheridge@82.15.63.237 with login) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 18:53:50 -0000 From: Paul Witheridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows - Mice with scroll wheels Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:54:11 +0100 Organization: Marlow Message-ID: <1h0s91djkodtveevntor0akhceiqqpfn1n@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id j51IrpS16517 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_10,HAS_ORGANIZATION,USER_AGENT_FORTE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I recently changed to a cordless mouse; it came, inevitably, with a scroll wheel instead of a middle button. The scroll wheel can still be pressed, like the good old middle button, and then generates the same result (thank heavens - otherwise my Virtual RiscPC would be almost unusable). However, I discovered that with some software, including XaraX1, if you hold down the CTRL key you can zoom in/out with the scroll wheel. This is a very convenient feature. I know that with OvnPro you can zoom in and out with CTRL+ALT and the left/right mouse buttons. But I think that the use of CTRL with a scroll wheel is becoming a de facto standard in Windows, and so I would ask David if he can put it on his list of "maybe, one-day" features. -- Paul Witheridge - Marlow, UK ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net