From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 4 18:51:04 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039027790:20:02127:114".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:51:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039027790:20:02127:114; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:49:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2111421; 4 Dec 2002 18:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18JeaT-0000AM-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:49:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4InTx24486 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:49:29 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4InSQ24482 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:49:28 GMT Received: from 1cust117.tnt1.lnd9.uk.uudial.net ([62.188.100.117] helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18JeaK-0006WM-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:49:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:01:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document Message-ID: <4b9fa09811rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000d01c29b71$0716ce20$0100a8c0@padua> References: <4b9f4589c1rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <000d01c29b71$0716ce20$0100a8c0@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <000d01c29b71$0716ce20$0100a8c0@padua>, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > On Wed 04 Dec, Ray Favre" wrote: > > I have a 250-page Ovation Pro document which comprises some 45 > > separate chapters. > > > > I want to produce a single text-file from this document i.e. > > without styles/effects or graphics - just plain text with the > > original line-feeds though. > > > > Is there any way I can do this without going through it > > chapter-by-chapter gradually building up the text-file by 'saving > > story as text'? > > > > It seems something which might already be an applet, but I don't > > know them very well. > Print to PostScript file. The whole or in parts. Use the > GhostScript command *ps2ascii (after the filer has seen !GhostScr) > and you will have your plain text. Thanks to all who replied and particularly for this one. I used !RiScript instead and - after setting the 'text' options as appropriate - it produced a good result, but fairly slow (about 30 minutes for 235 pages). I'll have a look at the DDL extraction method in due course. I've no doubt that Dr Wimp will do it ..... but the good Doctor is cleverer than me! :-) -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 4 19:41:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039030440:20:25334:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:41:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039030440:20:25334:75; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:34:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101852; 4 Dec 2002 19:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Jd2l-000689-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:10:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4H9rY07799 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:09:53 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4H9rN07793 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:09:53 GMT Received: from mk-net.demon.co.uk ([194.222.12.18] helo=Tonys) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Jd20-000EAT-0Y; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:09:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:04:06 GMT From: Tony van der Hoff To: Andy.Ling@quantel.com Cc: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] News bits Message-ID: <7e52a69f4b.Tony@mk-net.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: CCC User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10d (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 4 Dec 2002, in message , Andy.Ling@quantel.com wrote: > > DPeye was this weeks idea. > > That will probably get pronounced "De-Pie" > "Dopey", I'm afraid ... -- Tony van der Hoff | MailTo:tony@mk-net.demon.co.uk | MailTo:avanderhoff@iee.org Buckinghamshire, England | http:www.mk-net.demon.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 4 20:51:09 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039034857:20:00266:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:51:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039034857:20:00266:62; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:47:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000511; 4 Dec 2002 20:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18JgQN-0008E8-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:47:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4KkfK07950 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:46:41 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4KkfT07946 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:46:41 GMT Received: from [62.188.151.126] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18JgPm-0001Rm-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:46:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:24:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] News bits Message-ID: <4b9fb8b40asteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b9c0cd65cchris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4b9dab9520steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 04 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > >I gather from people at the show, that you've been producing image > >translation stuff as an alternate to ImageFS... > Well a chance to refute this. Although if you read it carefully there is > nothing to refute. The statement comes from Castles press release on the > Iyonix going on sale. Actually it wasn't Castle that made the comment. And what they said was that *they* (not castle) themselves had been in touch with you. Interestingly, the said company's product could be seen as a form of competition for OPro. Am I being vague? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 4 22:31:12 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039040789:10:13558:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:31:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039040789:10:13558:40; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:26:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121993; 4 Dec 2002 22:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Jhy7-0007KT-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:26:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4MPgt20044 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:25:42 GMT Received: from siaag2ac.compuserve.com (siaag2ac.compuserve.com [149.174.40.133]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4MPfw20041 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:25:41 GMT Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id RAA05414 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:25:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:25:16 -0500 From: Nobilangelo Subject: Re: [softwarelist] News bits To: "INTERNET:softwarelist@davidpilling.net" Message-ID: <200212041725_MC3-1-1E0B-EA23@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id gB4MPgw20042 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist DPMaster? DPIMaster? Google has nothing that seems significant for the first; nothing at all for the second. DPIDoctor? -- Nobilangelo. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 4 23:51:15 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039045672:10:22986:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:51:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039045672:10:22986:42; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:47:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1102077; 4 Dec 2002 23:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18JjE5-0006BI-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:46:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4NkBD10111 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:46:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4NkBr10078 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:46:11 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18JjDW-0006hs-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:46:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:44:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Demo version References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021204160219.00a879d0@wlv.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021204160219.00a879d0@wlv.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >A quick question about the demo version of OPro. Is it version 2.60 or >is it updated to the latest version each time? It is 2.66 - to cope with any file format problems. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 5 18:38:02 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039113365:10:19524:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:38:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039113365:10:19524:40; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:36:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1017133; 5 Dec 2002 18:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18K0pZ-0004Et-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:34:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB5IYEE09988 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:34:14 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5IYEF09985 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:34:14 GMT Received: from cmcqueen ([62.252.188.11]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021205183412.OUER495.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@cmcqueen> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:34:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:33:10 GMT From: Colin McQueen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Applets Message-ID: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi I have downloaded 2.69 but cannot find 26/32 bit versions of some of the mentioned applets? The Changes file mentions OArtworks 1.08 but the site only has 1.06 (I have 0.07) Thanks for the new version :) which is performing nicely. -- Colin McQueen : Using an Acorn StrongARM Risc PC Web Domain : http://www.mcqueen.uk.net/ BSc Zoology + Oceanography : PGCE : MSc in CBL/T -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 5 18:48:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039113693:20:26954:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:48:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039113693:20:26954:43; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:41:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025287; 5 Dec 2002 18:40 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18K0vE-0004We-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:40:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB5IePt10764 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:40:25 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5IePj10759 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:40:25 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18K0vA-0006d0-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:40:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages Message-ID: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I understand that at the moment each chapter of an OP document uses a different masterpage definition, and I can see that that is versatile, but it also means that making a design change to a doc which has multiple chapters means making the same change to each masterpage definition. How difficult would it be to allow "subsequent" chapters in a doc to use the masterpage defined for some prior chapter(s)? I don't just mean making one masterpage definition work for all chapters, but perhaps having two or three sets that get used scattered through a document? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 5 19:38:03 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039116983:20:10848:137".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:38:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039116983:20:10848:137; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:36:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128861; 5 Dec 2002 19:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18K1ms-0003he-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:35:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB5JZms17809 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:35:48 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5JZmX17805 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:35:48 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18K1ml-0001WZ-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:35:47 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:34:14 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages References: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >How difficult would it be to allow "subsequent" chapters in a doc to use >the masterpage defined for some prior chapter(s)? I don't just mean >making one masterpage definition work for all chapters, but perhaps >having two or three sets that get used scattered through a document? What you're proposing is how it should work. This idea has been on the todo list for a long time. One for the Windows version ;-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 5 19:38:04 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039116936:20:09651:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:38:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039116936:20:09651:45; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:35:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2127491; 5 Dec 2002 19:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18K1m0-0007Qr-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:35:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB5JYRQ17619 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:34:27 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5JYQQ17616 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:34:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18K1lS-0003vi-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:34:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:33:12 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Applets References: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have downloaded 2.69 but cannot find 26/32 bit versions of some of the >mentioned applets? >The Changes file mentions OArtworks 1.08 but the site only has 1.06 (I >have 0.07) Well that's a good point. There isn't a 32 bit version of the Artworks applet. I am awaiting seeing 32 bit rendering modules, and a machine to test them on. Problem is that means not only can you not use Artworks on a 32 bit machine you can't use it on a 26 bit one either - running 2.69. Anyway, bearing that in mind Ovation Pro 2.69 is available along with the 26/32 bit applets you'll need. Probably easiest from www.davidpilling.net/news.html. The famous scanning software upgrades you'll also see there appear to require a next slot of around 1MB. That's due to a change in unsqueeze code. And I hope to fix this later today. I guess I'm not going to wait a long time before putting out a 32 bit AW applet. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 5 20:28:06 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039119486:20:27358:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:28:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039119486:20:27358:51; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:18:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112853; 5 Dec 2002 20:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18K2RH-0002yC-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:17:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB5KHUS23786 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:17:30 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5KHUh23783 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:17:30 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18K2R7-000KZI-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:17:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Applets Message-ID: <4ba03babacJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> References: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com>, Colin McQueen wrote: > I have downloaded 2.69 but cannot find 26/32 bit versions of some of the > mentioned applets? Was 2.69 announced somewhere? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 14:13:47 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039174425:10:24428:92".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:13:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039174425:10:24428:92; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:33:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122078; 6 Dec 2002 11:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KGia-0004fy-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:32:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6BW1U02501 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:32:01 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6BW1w02497 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:32:01 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18KGi8-0004xt-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:32:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:12:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages Message-ID: <4ba08dc296Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > What you're proposing is how it should work. This idea has been on the > todo list for a long time. One for the Windows version ;-) Do you mean a feature that will only be on the W version, or one that RO users will see in due course too? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 15:03:51 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039187027:10:19616:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:03:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039187027:10:19616:56; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:03:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1017115; 6 Dec 2002 15:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KJml-00050s-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:48:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6EmPG32286 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:48:25 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6EmO732269 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:48:25 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18KJmC-000FU2-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:48:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:46:44 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages References: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4ba08dc296Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba08dc296Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Do you mean a feature that will only be on the W version, or one that RO >users will see in due course too? I'm struggling to get the Windows version finished. The current Win version is identical to the current Acorn version. They can save and load one anothers documents. The look and feel is the same. However there are a lot of twiddly bits to resolve, like PostScript printing on Windows. Another example of Windows inferiority, there's no support for masked image printing to PostScript - this has received it's share of criticism in RISC OS, but something is better than nothing. So logically all my time should be going into finishing the Windows stuff. Once that is done, the temptation will be to start enhancing the Windows version of OP. Perhaps making radical changes to it. A Xara - ArtWorks scenario if you like. In the midst of the current excitement about 32 bit RISC OS, I still feel that software development on RISC OS is not a viable business, and that my future lies elsewhere. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 16:43:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039192704:10:13091:148".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:43:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039192704:10:13091:148; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:38:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1123897; 6 Dec 2002 16:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KLDy-0006hD-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:21:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6GKWU19654 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:20:32 GMT Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6GKVb19651 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:20:31 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.52.214]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H6PHCL02.3PI for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:19:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:18:51 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Good heavens! Message-ID: <4ba0a9da1bpaul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4ba08dc296Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > In the midst of the current excitement about 32 bit RISC OS, I still > feel that software development on RISC OS is not a viable business, and > that my future lies elsewhere. Good heavens! This is black Friday, for sure. In tears, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 17:33:45 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039195566:10:13238:96".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:33:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039195566:10:13238:96; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:26:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1106126; 6 Dec 2002 17:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KM56-00083N-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:16:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6HG2x30395 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:16:02 GMT Received: from hobbit.iso.port.ac.uk (hobbit.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.254.1]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6HG1S30392 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:16:01 GMT Received: from stm2-60.static.port.ac.uk ([148.197.243.60] helo=ARMless) by hobbit.iso.port.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18KM21-000851-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:12:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Young To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages Message-ID: <4ba0ae675dsimon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba032d3ffJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4ba08dc296Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -111.6 (------------------------------------------) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18KM21-000851-00*eCRR4G2oE0M* Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David, On 06 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > In the midst of the current excitement about 32 bit RISC OS, I still > feel that software development on RISC OS is not a viable business, and > that my future lies elsewhere. It's a shame to hear, but then hardly a surprise either. Good luck wherever the road may take you. Kind regards, Simon. -- Simon A. Young BPharm MRPharmS PhD ILTM | Tel: 023-9284-3610 Lecturer in Pharmaceutics | Fax: 023-9284-3565 University of Portsmouth | simon.young@port.ac.uk ================================================================== Please visit my web-site (pgp key available) located at: http://userwww.port.ac.uk/youngs ================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 17:43:44 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039196176:10:04210:90".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:43:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039196176:10:04210:90; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:36:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004723; 6 Dec 2002 17:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KMMD-0001jW-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:33:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6HX4m32737 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:33:04 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6HX4G32733 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:33:04 GMT Received: from cmcqueen ([62.252.176.88]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021206173303.ECSL29196.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@cmcqueen> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:33:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:31:57 GMT From: Colin McQueen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Applets Message-ID: <528bb0a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> References: <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> <4ba03babacJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba03babacJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4ba03babacJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > In article <305032a04b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com>, > Colin McQueen wrote: > > I have downloaded 2.69 but cannot find 26/32 bit versions of some of the > > mentioned applets? > > Was 2.69 announced somewhere? > David had said 2.68 would be on the site later this week so I thought I'd check each day but 2.69 was there instead. -- Colin McQueen : Using an Acorn StrongARM Risc PC Web Domain : http://www.mcqueen.uk.net/ BSc Zoology + Oceanography : PGCE : MSc in CBL/T -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 18:53:46 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039200626:20:25332:72".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:53:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039200626:20:25332:72; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:50:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2025531; 6 Dec 2002 18:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KNXh-0002Yf-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:49:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6ImJN10004 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:48:19 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6ImIl10001 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:48:18 GMT Received: from [62.64.237.208] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18KNW0-000Ejm-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:47:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.38 Message-ID: <4ba0a92d5adfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I've been trying to upgrade my SparkFS 1.38 to 1.39 without success. Yes I have the correct archive 1.38 to 1.39 Freshen unarchived. Most of the way through the process it fails with "Incorrect length for file Zip" The Archive as downloaded shows a size of 426,316 bytes. The Zip module in ...!Freshen.Patches.SparkFS.!SparkFS.Modules.Zip is 32,796 bytes... Are these correct? Interestingly (or not) The Zoo Module throws up the same error message and that's 12,927 bytes. Any thoughts please. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 18:53:47 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039200654:10:23470:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:53:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039200654:10:23470:42; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:50:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1118107; 6 Dec 2002 18:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KNYO-0000ad-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:50:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6Imto10060 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:48:55 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6ImtY10056 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:48:55 GMT Received: from tarazen.demon.co.uk ([193.237.156.226] helo=tarazen) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18KNWv-0006lE-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:48:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:47:24 GMT From: Jon Keates To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document Message-ID: <81f5b1a04b.jonkeates@tarazen.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Just as it comes User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: StrongEd 4.65 (20 Apr 02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling once upon a time wrote : > > What I have in mind is a function that can save a story as text (I'm > surprised there isn't one). That combined with existing commands for > stepping through a document would let you get there. > > I hope I can add this before 2.68 appears later this week. > Could that include an option to save text with paragraphs separated by two LNs and forced LFs (shift+return) as just a single LN. I layout poetry in that form, a verse is a paragraph and lines are forced -) Chapter and page separation is another issue cheers Jon -- How can Life ever be Created or Destroyed - this Ephemeral Being is constantly changing form. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 6 22:23:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039213162:10:26848:72".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:23:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039213162:10:26848:72; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 22:19:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1103729; 6 Dec 2002 22:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KQnf-0000R4-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 22:18:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6MFlv31515 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:15:47 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6MFkM31512 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:15:46 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18KQl8-00045U-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 22:15:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:14:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.38 References: <4ba0a92d5adfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba0a92d5adfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I've been trying to upgrade my SparkFS 1.38 to 1.39 without success. Unless you have an Iyonix SparkFS is probably not worth bothering upgrading. OTOH the scanning program will be for most people. >Most of the way through the process it fails with "Incorrect length for >file Zip" The usual problem with difference patches, is that what you set off from is different to what it should be. Say you've mixed up the modules between two versions of SparkFS, or perhaps I've supplied you with a version between releases to fix some specific problem. Or a previous patch has failed. Anyway the lengths it is complaining about, are those of the existing files in the old copy. It is doing a check to see if what it is about to patch looks like what the patch is for. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 01:14:00 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039223596:10:21615:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:14:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039223596:10:21615:41; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:13:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1021583; 7 Dec 2002 1:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KM2t-0007Q9-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:13:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB6HDek30052 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:13:40 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6HDev30049 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:13:40 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021206171339.QQCJ10657.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:13:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:13:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Fri 06 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > >Do you mean a feature that will only be on the W version, or one that RO > >users will see in due course too? > > I'm struggling to get the Windows version finished. The current Win > version is identical to the current Acorn version. They can save and > load one anothers documents. The look and feel is the same. > > However there are a lot of twiddly bits to resolve, like PostScript > printing on Windows. Another example of Windows inferiority, there's no > support for masked image printing to PostScript - this has received it's > share of criticism in RISC OS, but something is better than nothing. Does this mean that any app clipping images and printing to PostScript on Windows has to handle that itself and bypass the Windows printer drivers? Or does it require the Adobe driver with appropriate ppd file for the printer? It is now over 5 years since I used PageMaker 5 on PC and regularly cropped (clipped) images in a newsletter layout. Or has the Windows printer driver gone backwards in the meantime? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 02:24:02 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039227442:20:28940:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:24:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039227442:20:28940:48; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:17:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118176; 7 Dec 2002 2:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KUWD-0004wS-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:16:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB72GAd17249 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:16:10 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB72GAC17246 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:16:10 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18KUVl-000EtP-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:16:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:15:07 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: masterpages References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Does this mean that any app clipping images and printing to PostScript on >Windows has to handle that itself and bypass the Windows printer drivers? Or >does it require the Adobe driver with appropriate ppd file for the printer? Clipping is a different issue. Windows supports an irregular clipping curve in all versions, and that is a step forward on RISC OS. We've talked of this before, it's obvious that in many cases one could best print a masked sprite by using an irregular clip curve. However you can't always, there'll always be a case where this would be inefficient. OP running on RISC OS outputs PS direct to do irregular clipping, so that's no problem. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039234139:20:18915:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039234139:20:18915:45; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 04:08:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2102554; 7 Dec 2002 4:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KWFo-0005o7-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 04:07:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB747BI24223 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 04:07:11 GMT Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com (smtp01.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.131]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7478D24216 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 04:07:09 GMT Received: from 54-1-77-239.tky.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.77.239] helo=plattir.gol.com) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with smtp (Magnetic Fields) id 18KWF7-0004I2-00 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:07:06 +0900 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:42:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "Ian R. Platt" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <81f5b1a04b.jonkeates@tarazen.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Fri 06 Dec, Jon Keates wrote: > > In message > David Pilling once upon a time wrote : > > > > > What I have in mind is a function that can save a story as text (I'm > > surprised there isn't one). That combined with existing commands for > > stepping through a document would let you get there. > > > > I hope I can add this before 2.68 appears later this week. > > > Could that include an option to save text with paragraphs > separated by two LNs and forced LFs (shift+return) as just a > single LN. > > I layout poetry in that form, a verse is a paragraph and > lines are forced -) > > Chapter and page separation is another issue > > cheers > > Jon So _very_ good to have you back after 180yrs! Ian (When, in the interim, did you decide to lose the 'h'? - just curious) -- Ian Platt Risc OS4 + StrongARM = UK technology. Continuing to 'think differently':-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:37 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039249488:20:20056:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039249488:20:20056:70; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:24:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2020268; 7 Dec 2002 8:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KaG6-0003Hz-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:24:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB78O0e05911 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 08:24:00 GMT Received: from web10003.mail.yahoo.com (web10003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gB78Nxo05904 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 08:23:59 GMT Message-ID: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.11.48.37] by web10003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:23:57 PST Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: gary hughes Subject: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 and I now get an error message from Ovation Pro - 'ENOE' and the program fails to load. I'm currently running Select 4.33 Any ideas? bye Gary ===== .._ /_/_ gary_hughes_fp@yahoo.com /_/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:40 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039261850:20:08330:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039261850:20:08330:65; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:50:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008105; 7 Dec 2002 11:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KdTU-0000ur-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:50:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7Bnvr21816 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:49:57 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7Bnuf21812 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:49:56 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gB7Bo1Nd004367 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:50:02 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:49:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba11501c4ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com>, gary hughes wrote: > Hi > I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 > and I now get an error message from Ovation Pro - > 'ENOE' and the program fails to load. I'm currently > running Select 4.33 Any ideas? Yes, you've got a 26 bit applet installed - probably the Artworks one. Remove them all and replace a few at a time until rebloading OP doesn't give the error. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:41 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039263287:20:08799:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039263287:20:08799:40; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:14:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007662; 7 Dec 2002 12:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Kdpz-0008Oc-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:13:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7CDa424452 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:13:36 GMT Received: from mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.25]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7CDZi24448 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:13:35 GMT Received: from mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.61) by mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (6.7.010) id 3DEF20020016DDA4 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:13:30 +0100 Received: from habett (193.253.193.153) by mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (6.7.010) id 3DEDFF89001B4353 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:13:30 +0100 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:11:57 +0100 From: stephane HAbeTT roux To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <2b1517a14b.habett@Jesus.wanadoo.fr> References: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> <4ba11501c4ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba11501c4ray@raydawson.com> X-Organization: Islam Inc, canal anti.historique User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60 (MsgServe/2.00a) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 X-Peer2Peer-Protocol: Dummies to dummies X-Priority: 911 X-URL: http://habett.org/ X-Accept-Language: en, fr, perl, de X-Hello-Kitty: meow meow. Keywords: nihilism, random, chaos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4ba11501c4ray@raydawson.com> you wrote: > In article <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com>, > gary hughes wrote: > > Hi > > > I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 > > and I now get an error message from Ovation Pro - > > 'ENOE' and the program fails to load. I'm currently > > running Select 4.33 Any ideas? > > Yes, you've got a 26 bit applet installed - probably the Artworks one. On my system, the main problem was !ColSupp. Updated version, working with 2.69 can be found at http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/applet.html -- |":._.:"| http://habett.org/ | (=) | habett@habett.org | . | Being omni gaijin -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:41 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039263755:20:19014:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039263755:20:19014:51; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:22:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2127693; 7 Dec 2002 12:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18KdyU-0000ps-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:22:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7CMMQ25285 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:22:22 GMT Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7CMMQ25282 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:22:22 GMT Received: from modem-319.beedrill.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.33.63] helo=localhost) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18KdyP-0007gI-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:22:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Fraser To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:21:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba117f826mfraser@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com>, gary hughes wrote: > Hi > I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 and I now get an > error message from Ovation Pro - 'ENOE' and the program fails to load. > I'm currently running Select 4.33 Any ideas? I've also just upgraded to 2.69 and have gone through the list of Applets that I normally load. The ones that currently give the 'ENOE' error are: Impulse 1.02 - Probably due to the ImpulseII module OArtWrks 1.07 - I'm assuming that when the 32bit AWRender is released this will be ok Ovation1 1.03 - Again probably due to the Ovation module inside the applet. The remaining 38 applets load without problems :) -- What's going on, Mr. Peterson? The question is what's going in Mr. Peterson. A beer please, Woody. ______________________________________________________ |\ /| ark Fraser /mfraser@ukgateway.net www.mfraser.ukgateway.net | \/ | Somerset /Using !Pluto on an Acorn SA RISC PC | |___________/You know what the sig means! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:00:41 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039267952:20:12422:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:00:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039267952:20:12422:77; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:32:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2012480; 7 Dec 2002 13:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Kf43-0007nB-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:32:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7DVo631605 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:31:50 GMT Received: from web10008.mail.yahoo.com (web10008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.44]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gB7DVno31600 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:31:49 GMT Message-ID: <20021207133148.99646.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.11.48.37] by web10008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 05:31:48 PST Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 05:31:48 -0800 (PST) From: gary hughes Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4ba11501c4ray@raydawson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist --- Ray Dawson wrote: > ... > Remove them all and replace a few at a time until > rebloading OP doesn't > give the error. > ... Great. It works. I'd replaced all the applets with the new ones in the !Applets application forgetting that the installed applets are actually stored within !OvnPro i.e. I thought I was running the newer versions when in fact, I was still running (or trying to) the older versions. bye Gary ===== .._ /_/_ gary_hughes_fp@yahoo.com /_/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 7 14:20:27 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039270282:10:14833:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:20:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039270282:10:14833:41; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:11:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013951; 7 Dec 2002 14:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Kff8-0001pb-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:10:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7EASR02844 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:10:28 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7EARM02841 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:10:27 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Kff1-00023r-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:10:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:09:05 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem References: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 >and I now get an error message from Ovation Pro - >'ENOE' and the program fails to load. I'm currently >running Select 4.33 Any ideas? This is what happens when you have a 26 bit applet installed. It's a rubbish error message... I did write it to produce a nice one which even tells you which applet is at fault. For some reason although this works on the test version it doesn't on the release one. There's surely no mystery about which applets are to blame, the ReadMe file lists them and tells you to either replace with a new one or remove. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:02 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039286786:20:01988:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039286786:20:01988:57; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:46:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001582; 7 Dec 2002 18:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18KjxG-0007wZ-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:45:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB7IjA328880 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:45:10 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7Ij9n28877 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:45:09 GMT Received: from [62.188.133.146] (helo=ghc) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Kjwo-0003SC-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:45:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:44:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: StrongHelp Scrip Language Manual update Message-ID: <4ba13b0905gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist The StrongHelp version of the Ovation Pro Script Reference Guide has been updated and can be downloaded from http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html Now at version 1.05, this release includes the new savetextastype function introduced in Ovation Pro 2.69. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039438750:20:02890:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039438750:20:02890:40; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:59:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2121390; 9 Dec 2002 12:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LNNY-0008MI-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:51:20 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9CpJQ14411 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:51:19 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9CpIA14407 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:51:18 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gB9CpONd007058 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:51:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:51:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] 2.69 won't drag 'n drop text Message-ID: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Funny one here. I can't shift drag text from Zap into OP 2.69. Attmpting to do so brings up an error task window saying 'Error: can't open input file'. The title bar of the window is an OP scrap file pathname. Clicking the mouse then brings up an error window from ARCFAX saying 'File could not be converted'. The same applies to drag 'n dropping text from any other application - but not between OP windows. Reverting to 2.67 is fine. I'm using Select 2i3 Any ideas? Especially why the error comes from ArcFax which isn't even loaded, although it has been seen by the filer. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039440298:20:17179:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039440298:20:17179:68; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:24:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2110909; 9 Dec 2002 13:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LNtV-0006eR-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:24:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9DODx21510 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:24:13 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD9506367.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.99.103]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9DOCb21505 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:24:12 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18LNtK-00047L-00 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:24:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:23:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: 2.69 won't drag 'n drop text Message-ID: <4ba2254401sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> References: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Ray Dawson wrote: > Funny one here. I can't shift drag text from Zap into OP 2.69. > Attmpting to do so brings up an error task window saying 'Error: > can't open input file'. The title bar of the window is an OP scrap > file pathname. Works fine here (2.69 and Select 2i3). -- Stefan Bellon 3 quickest ways to spread news? Telephone, Television, Tellawoman. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:25 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039463950:20:04902:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039463950:20:04902:51; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 19:59:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125645; 9 Dec 2002 19:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LU2o-00068B-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 19:58:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9Jvl700300 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:57:47 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9Jvko32762 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:57:46 GMT Received: from [62.64.237.129] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18LU6T-0005Po-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:02:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 19:34:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba2474817dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> References: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl>, Paul Sprangers > wrote: > > Dear all, > > After having upgraded to 2.69, I encouter a problem with the new > > DDF-loader. When I try to drag a file (text of DDF) from a window into > > the Ovation frame, an error is generated: Can't open input file. > What new DDF loader? I didn't see that and am still running 1.09 with a > server dated 05 Aug 99. > > The window contents has to be saved to disk first, and from there it > > can be dragged into the Ovation frame. Is this a new bug? Or can things > > easily be modified? > Ah, same problem as mine when I drag text from another application. See > previous message. > Is there something we haven't upgraded, or should have removed but > haven't? > Cheers, > Ray D Sorry Guys, I don't actually know the answer, but just to report I don't have either problem here. Ray's Text dragging or the above DDF filter problem. SARPC Select RO 4.33 OvPro 2.69 and all the recent Filter upgrades. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:30 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039481836:20:25035:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039481836:20:25035:52; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:57:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025125; 10 Dec 2002 0:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LYhq-0004vC-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:57:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBA0uWh02432 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:32 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBA0uWS02429 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:32 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.96] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18LYhH-0003NL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 22:00:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: 2.69 won't drag 'n drop text Message-ID: <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba2254401sbellon@sbellon.de> References: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> <4ba2254401sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 09 Dec, Stefan Bellon wrote: > Ray Dawson wrote: > > Funny one here. I can't shift drag text from Zap into OP 2.69. > > Attmpting to do so brings up an error task window saying 'Error: > > can't open input file'. The title bar of the window is an OP scrap > > file pathname. > Works fine here (2.69 and Select 2i3). Silly question guys, but given that David said the 2.68 --> 2.69 transition was just for 32 bit status and IIRC tested on Iyonix why change the install for something on a Select boosted RPC?[1] Drag of text (shift or no) from the version of Zap on Iyonix (1.46 20 Nov 2002 [TEST]) to OvPro 2.69 works - on Iyonix. Strangely enough I haven't updated the copy on the RPC, just the test copy on the Iyonix. Admittedly fault reports from older machines are handy for compatibility purposes. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039512854:20:04557:147".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039512854:20:04557:147; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:34:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005790; 10 Dec 2002 9:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LglO-0001pb-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:33:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBA9Whw10294 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:32:43 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBA9Whv10287 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:32:43 GMT Received: from [62.188.110.7] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Lgkq-00088r-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:32:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:39:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] News bits Message-ID: <4ba2632ad6rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b9f716543paul@vigay.com> References: <4b9c0cd65cchris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4b9dab9520steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b9f716543paul@vigay.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b9f716543paul@vigay.com>, Paul Vigay wrote: > In article , Matthew Hambley > wrote: > > I still like ImageMiester but I can see the problem with that. > > In a similar vain how about UberScan. :-) > How about ImageDoctor - the Doctor always defeated the Master in > the end anyway. ;-) I think of it as ImageDP, as DP is undoubtedly the Master. RKP. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:33 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039526220:20:00935:131".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039526220:20:00935:131; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:17:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125526; 10 Dec 2002 13:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LkEr-0000gm-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:15:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBADF2R19539 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:15:02 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBADF1k19533 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:15:01 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gBADF7Nd028401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:15:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: 2.69 won't drag 'n drop text Message-ID: <4ba2a7ad9fray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> <4ba2254401sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 09 Dec, Stefan Bellon wrote: > > Ray Dawson wrote: > > > Funny one here. I can't shift drag text from Zap into OP 2.69. > > > Attmpting to do so brings up an error task window saying 'Error: > > > can't open input file'. The title bar of the window is an OP scrap > > > file pathname. > > Works fine here (2.69 and Select 2i3). > Silly question guys, but given that David said the 2.68 --> 2.69 > transition was just for 32 bit status and IIRC tested on Iyonix why > change the install for something on a Select boosted RPC?[1] Because I understood that OP would be 32 bit from now on and 2.69 is the latest bug fixed version. > Drag of text (shift or no) from the version of Zap on Iyonix (1.46 20 > Nov 2002 [TEST]) to OvPro 2.69 works - on Iyonix. Strangely enough I > haven't updated the copy on the RPC, just the test copy on the Iyonix. > Admittedly fault reports from older machines are handy for > compatibility purposes. There is definitely something not compatible here and it may be tied in with !TransDDF. I have all the !Transxxx apps in Boot:Resources, so the same one is used whichever version of OP is used. I think I may have altered a line in !TransDDF.!Boot to allow text dragging or something in the past. I can't remember. Anyway, it reads IconSprites .!Sprites Set TransDDF$Dir Set FFGServer$TransDDF -T &707 &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir Set FFGServer$TransDDFa -T &FFF &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir Set File$Type_707 DDF Set File$Type_B25 OvPDDL That dragged fine into Pluto btw via Zap, but OP won't accept it as it's from an Obey file. If I change the filetype to text, it gives the error I mentioned. Text files dragged from the filer window into OP are fine. Text dragged by selecting in another application and shift dragging give an error about not being able to open the input file. Something to do with OLE? Scrap directories? Needless to say, quitting OP 2.69 and booting up 2.67 works with no problems at all. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:35 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039532266:20:24420:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039532266:20:24420:64; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:57:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2108635; 10 Dec 2002 14:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LliZ-0002Mc-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:50:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBAEnBZ06465 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:49:11 GMT Received: from smtp02.fields.gol.com (smtp02.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.132]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBAEnAR06458 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:49:10 GMT Received: from 54-1-77-014.tky.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.77.14] helo=plattir.gol.com) by smtp02.fields.gol.com with smtp (Magnetic Fields) id 18Llh5-0005XC-00 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:49:07 +0900 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:07:25 +0000 (GMT) From: "Ian R. Platt" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4494bca14b.jonkeates@tarazen.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sun 08 Dec, Jon Keates wrote: > > In message > "Ian R. Platt" once upon a time wrote : > > > On Fri 06 Dec, Jon Keates wrote: > > > > > > > So _very_ good to have you back after 180yrs! > > > > Ian > > (When, in the interim, did you decide to lose the 'h'? - just curious) > > > no choice about it - when i gained an 'e' > > -) > > Jon Indeed. Ian -- Ian Platt Risc OS4 + StrongARM = UK technology. Continuing to 'think differently':-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:48 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039390197:10:25284:67".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039390197:10:25284:67; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:29:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1101375; 8 Dec 2002 23:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LArk-0002jW-00; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:29:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB8NTBY18946 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:29:11 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB8NTAM18942 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:29:10 GMT Received: from userko81.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.105.29] helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18LArE-000446-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:29:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document Message-ID: <4ba1ac7ae2rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b9f4589c1rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4b9f4589c1rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Many thanks for the ideas. I had a go at extracting the text from a DDL file and it was a lot easier than it first looked - at least, for what I wanted. I haven't got round yet to eliminating text in headers/footers - other than by (the slightly dangerous) discarding specific text strings. Tabbing and new paras worked out pretty well. Bearing in mind that the output took only 12 seconds for 235 pages (even using Basic and a Wimp front end) then I am quite content to do a small amount of final tidying in a text editor. This is a big improvement on the 30 minutes by the PostScript/RiScript route, although this latter does give a very good output format-wise. I look forward to using DP's proper facility! -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039438316:10:05900:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039438316:10:05900:65; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:51:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004347; 9 Dec 2002 12:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LNKq-0008AJ-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:48:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9ClxY13545 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:47:59 GMT Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9Clxr13537 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:47:59 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.51.231]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H6URJS00.VR0 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:47:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:46:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear all, After having upgraded to 2.69, I encouter a problem with the new DDF-loader. When I try to drag a file (text of DDF) from a window into the Ovation frame, an error is generated: Can't open input file. The window contents has to be saved to disk first, and from there it can be dragged into the Ovation frame. Is this a new bug? Or can things easily be modified? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039445873:10:08776:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039445873:10:08776:65; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:57:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1008754; 9 Dec 2002 14:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LPCb-0005Lf-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:48:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9ElZh07313 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:47:35 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9ElYh07305 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:47:34 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gB9EleNd021432 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:47:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:47:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> References: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl>, Paul Sprangers wrote: > Dear all, > After having upgraded to 2.69, I encouter a problem with the new > DDF-loader. When I try to drag a file (text of DDF) from a window into > the Ovation frame, an error is generated: Can't open input file. What new DDF loader? I didn't see that and am still running 1.09 with a server dated 05 Aug 99. > The window contents has to be saved to disk first, and from there it > can be dragged into the Ovation frame. Is this a new bug? Or can things > easily be modified? Ah, same problem as mine when I drag text from another application. See previous message. Is there something we haven't upgraded, or should have removed but haven't? Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039449496:10:29110:222".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039449496:10:29110:222; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:58:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123939; 9 Dec 2002 15:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LQHZ-0005Xc-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:57:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9Fubx21814 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:56:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9FuaC21809 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:56:36 GMT Received: from tarazen.demon.co.uk ([193.237.156.226] helo=tarazen) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18LQGm-0007hU-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:56:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 18:19:37 GMT From: Jon Keates To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Text-file of whole document Message-ID: <4494bca14b.jonkeates@tarazen.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Just as it comes User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: StrongEd 4.65 (20 Apr 02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message "Ian R. Platt" once upon a time wrote : > On Fri 06 Dec, Jon Keates wrote: > > > > So _very_ good to have you back after 180yrs! > > Ian > (When, in the interim, did you decide to lose the 'h'? - just curious) > no choice about it - when i gained an 'e' -) Jon -- Words : meaningless without the knowledge to understand, meaningless once the Truth has been realised, does anyone 'know' what happens inbetween ? -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039468072:10:24965:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039468072:10:24965:47; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:07:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1102226; 9 Dec 2002 21:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LV7J-0006Je-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:07:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB9L6a410179 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:06:36 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9L6ZT10164 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:06:35 GMT Received: from cmcqueen ([62.252.177.215]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021209210631.TJYZ7059.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@cmcqueen> for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:06:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:05:35 GMT From: Colin McQueen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <2f9c4fa24b.cmcqueen@cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> References: <20021207082357.87230.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >I've just 'Freshened' my copy of OvnPro 2.67 to 2.69 > >and I now get an error message from Ovation Pro - > >'ENOE' and the program fails to load. I'm currently > >running Select 4.33 Any ideas? > > This is what happens when you have a 26 bit applet installed. It's a > rubbish error message... I did write it to produce a nice one which even > tells you which applet is at fault. For some reason although this works > on the test version it doesn't on the release one. > I got well formatted and worded errors. -- Colin McQueen : Using an Acorn StrongARM Risc PC Web Domain : http://www.mcqueen.uk.net/ BSc Zoology + Oceanography : PGCE : MSc in CBL/T -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 16:55:59 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039481854:10:04933:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:55:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039481854:10:04933:55; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:57:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111408; 10 Dec 2002 0:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18LYhq-0004vB-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:57:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBA0ufh02451 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:41 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBA0uec02446 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:40 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.96] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18LYhL-0003NL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:56:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:00:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.38 Message-ID: <4ba25a243dsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba0a92d5adfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 06 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > The usual problem with difference patches, is that what you set off from > is different to what it should be. Say you've mixed up the modules > between two versions of SparkFS, or perhaps I've supplied you with a > version between releases to fix some specific problem. Or a previous > patch has failed. > Anyway the lengths it is complaining about, are those of the existing > files in the old copy. It is doing a check to see if what it is about to > patch looks like what the patch is for. You did supply a patch as I recall, but I could have sworn that it was only the "zoo" module that was affected. Anyway, current state of affairs is that I can remove the zoo module and the update gets further through but still fails with a complaint about the RunImage file length. Pain in the nether really since the bundled copy of SparkFS on Iyonix is of course read only. Time to buy a neat and tidy upgrade? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 21:44:23 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039556556:20:22192:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:44:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039556556:20:22192:59; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:42:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125549; 10 Dec 2002 21:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Ls8D-00051K-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:41:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBALdwH20963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:39:58 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBALdvJ20959 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:39:58 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Ls6f-0002kT-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:39:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:38:36 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem References: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >What new DDF loader? I didn't see that and am still running 1.09 with a >server dated 05 Aug 99. There is a new DDF loader with the 32 bit upgrades. The thing about "ArcFax" is an old one. The new !Server I created when RISC OS 4 came out was done by chopping an old copy of ArcFax down. Newer versions of !Server fix this, and there is a new !Server amongst the 32 bit upgrades. And yes you have to tweek the DDF loader so that text files go via it. However it sounds like there is some sort of bug in OP 2.69. Possible I guess since I tweeked that area when adding support for the Iyonix file swop system. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 22:04:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039557701:20:24684:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:04:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039557701:20:24684:42; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:01:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023756; 10 Dec 2002 22:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18LsNl-0005gK-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:57:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBALuce22794 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:56:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBALucV22791 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:56:38 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18LsMo-0006ue-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:56:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:54:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.38 References: <4ba0a92d5adfs@ukgateway.net> <4ba25a243dsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba25a243dsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Time to buy a neat and tidy upgrade? It seems that entropy will affect upgrades via the web, at least for difference patching (where one makes assumptions about what people have on their hard disc). There is the possibility that I will invent a scheme whereby you can pay for an upgrade that gives you a clean original enhanced copy of software and scraps all the fun with floppy discs and difference files. This probably depends on how many new machines are sold, and how expensive the current 'free' upgrades are. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 10 22:34:23 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039559408:20:10610:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:34:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039559408:20:10610:60; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:30:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2117302; 10 Dec 2002 22:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Lssg-0008DO-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:29:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBAMSYU27119 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:28:34 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBAMSYX27115 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:28:34 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.254] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Lsre-0003TO-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:28:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:40:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: 2.69 won't drag 'n drop text Message-ID: <4ba2d6a86fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba2a7ad9fray@raydawson.com> References: <4ba222559eray@raydawson.com> <4ba2254401sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4ba2a7ad9fray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 10 Dec, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article <4ba254a33fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling > wrote: > > On 09 Dec, Stefan Bellon wrote: > > > Ray Dawson wrote: > > > > Funny one here. I can't shift drag text from Zap into OP 2.69. > > > > Attmpting to do so brings up an error task window saying 'Error: > > > > can't open input file'. The title bar of the window is an OP scrap > > > > file pathname. > > > Works fine here (2.69 and Select 2i3). > > Silly question guys, but given that David said the 2.68 --> 2.69 > > transition was just for 32 bit status and IIRC tested on Iyonix why > > change the install for something on a Select boosted RPC?[1] > Because I understood that OP would be 32 bit from now on and 2.69 is the > latest bug fixed version. > > Drag of text (shift or no) from the version of Zap on Iyonix (1.46 20 > > Nov 2002 [TEST]) to OvPro 2.69 works - on Iyonix. Strangely enough I > > haven't updated the copy on the RPC, just the test copy on the Iyonix. > > Admittedly fault reports from older machines are handy for > > compatibility purposes. > There is definitely something not compatible here and it may be tied in > with !TransDDF. I have all the !Transxxx apps in Boot:Resources, so the > same one is used whichever version of OP is used. I think I may have > altered a line in !TransDDF.!Boot to allow text dragging or something in > the past. I can't remember. Anyway, it reads > IconSprites .!Sprites > Set TransDDF$Dir > Set FFGServer$TransDDF -T &707 &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir > Set FFGServer$TransDDFa -T &FFF &B25 -R TransDDF$Dir That one. I have an old, still in the archive, copy of the TransDDF with that last line commented out. type FFF = text and all that. I also seem to recall people having some problems relating to that bit some time back. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 13:49:39 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039590133:10:13244:84".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:49:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039590133:10:13244:84; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:02:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101011; 11 Dec 2002 7:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18M0sQ-0001ym-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:01:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBB709N01215 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:00:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBB709X01212 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:00:09 GMT Received: from march.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.59] helo=dlr-rpc) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18M0qk-0000YU-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:00:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Randles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:25:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist The latest Spark 2.28 upgrade only seems to upgrade to 2.26 ? Is there a problem here ? David -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 13:49:47 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039600202:10:04631:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:49:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039600202:10:04631:49; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:50:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1002951; 11 Dec 2002 9:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18M3Tx-00021R-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:48:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBB9l6T20808 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:47:06 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBB9l5n20799 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:47:05 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gBB9lBNd008506 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:47:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro 2.67 -> 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba3187c53ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba221f531paul@delink.nl> <4ba22cf5c9ray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >What new DDF loader? I didn't see that and am still running 1.09 with a > >server dated 05 Aug 99. > There is a new DDF loader with the 32 bit upgrades. Ok, I've installed all the new TRansloaders > The thing about "ArcFax" is an old one. The new !Server I created when > RISC OS 4 came out was done by chopping an old copy of ArcFax down. > Newer versions of !Server fix this, and there is a new !Server amongst > the 32 bit upgrades. The 'ArcFax' error is now replaced with a 'Transloader' one. I've also copied the new server into all the other Transloaders. (yes, I did back them up first) > And yes you have to tweek the DDF loader so that text files go via it. That's the way I've always had it, and done to the new one. > However it sounds like there is some sort of bug in OP 2.69. Possible I > guess since I tweeked that area when adding support for the Iyonix file > swop system. Still the same error with 2.69 about not being able to open the input file. Again, quitting and using 2.67 works fine with the new Transloaders. Note that the error only occurs when dragging text from a window into OP and not when dragging a text file into it. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 13:49:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039600728:10:19657:112".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:49:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039600728:10:19657:112; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:58:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1106305; 11 Dec 2002 9:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18M3cp-0002XX-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:57:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBB9vq222904 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:57:52 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD95065AE.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.101.174]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBB9vpk22898 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:57:52 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18M3ck-000579-00 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:57:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:57:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Randles wrote: > The latest Spark 2.28 upgrade only seems to upgrade to 2.26 ? Is > there a problem here ? AFAICT it's just the info window template that isn't updated. -- Stefan Bellon 2 + 2 = 5 for suitably large values of 2. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 16:48:01 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039625204:10:16504:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:48:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039625204:10:16504:74; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:46:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1016023; 11 Dec 2002 16:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18M9za-0006es-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:45:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBBGfG311880 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:41:16 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBBGfGT11873 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:41:16 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18M9v9-000NX1-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:40:09 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> The latest Spark 2.28 upgrade only seems to upgrade to 2.26 ? Is >> there a problem here ? >AFAICT it's just the info window template that isn't updated. I'll look into it. On the same subject, John Ferguson pointed out to me that Panorama 1.15 is a dud. So there's a 1.16 up there now. So many upgrades there were bound to be problems, and I'll be surprised if there aren't any more once people start running them on 32 bit RISC OS. I've got an Iyonix on my desk now. So I can confirm it does exist. It's a big achievement. Very fast. Quiet. A few rough edges that will be polished off soon. I would point out that I didn't pay for this machine. Anyway this should allow me to finish off the upgrade programme. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 20:07:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039637228:10:12667:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:07:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039637228:10:12667:59; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:07:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012456; 11 Dec 2002 20:06 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18MD7u-00035I-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:06:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBBK61m14414 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:06:01 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBBK61a14410 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:06:01 GMT Received: from [213.116.52.112] (helo=213.116.52.112) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18MD7C-0003At-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:05:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:37:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: [Snip] > I've got an Iyonix on my desk now. So I can confirm it does > exist. It's a big achievement. Very fast. Quiet. A few rough > edges that will be polished off soon. .... It's good to have approving comments from someone with your authority, David! > Anyway this should allow me to finish off the upgrade > programme. Will that include your Twain drivers and I***M***, or whatever you are going to call it - do please make up your mind and announce it soon. 'Nameless Image Thingummy' really is a bit of a mouthful :-) Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 21:27:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039641543:10:01952:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:27:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039641543:10:01952:77; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:19:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1120649; 11 Dec 2002 21:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18MEFK-0001wK-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:18:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBBLHfg23078 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:17:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBBLHe723074 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:17:40 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18MEEe-0003PD-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:17:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:16:12 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> Anyway this should allow me to finish off the upgrade >> programme. >Will that include your Twain drivers and I***M***, or whatever >you are going to call it - do please make up your mind and The scanning software upgrades have been available for a week or two. As to TWAIN. Yes, but... it depends how it goes. For example any sort of parallel port scanner isn't going to work on Iyonix. Some of the minority ones (I sold about 2 Powerlook drivers, and I know for sure one scanner has been scrapped) just won't be needed. So I'll only be doing what is needed. I've yet to meet someone with an Iyonix SCSI card. Castle are in possession of a batch of 32 bit Epson USB TWAIN drivers. To that extent 32 bit TWAIN exists already. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 11 21:37:58 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039642178:10:18235:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:37:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039642178:10:18235:51; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:29:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018231; 11 Dec 2002 21:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18MEPy-0004WG-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:29:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBBLTHR24421 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:29:17 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBBLTHr24417 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:29:17 GMT Received: from [62.64.203.135] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18MEUF-000GeP-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:33:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <4ba358a478dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk>, Brian Carroll wrote: [Snip] > Will that include your Twain drivers and I***M***, or whatever > you are going to call it - do please make up your mind and > announce it soon. 'Nameless Image Thingummy' really is a bit of > a mouthful :-) > Brian. I thought it did, DPlingScan is what the upgrade Info window displays. Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 13:51:31 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039691602:10:03925:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:51:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039691602:10:03925:91; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:13:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1005251; 12 Dec 2002 11:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MR8X-0005tt-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:04:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCB3fC02262 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:03:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCB3ea02259 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:03:40 GMT Received: from retreat.demon.co.uk ([158.152.123.49] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18MR7z-0003cE-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:03:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:06:08 GMT From: Malcolm Cowell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > As to TWAIN. Yes, but... it depends how it goes. For example any sort of > parallel port scanner isn't going to work on Iyonix. > > So I'll only be doing what is needed. I've yet to meet someone with an > Iyonix SCSI card. Do Iyonix SCSI cards exist? Though I paid a deposit on Omega if I give up on that and go for Iyonix I have two SCSI devices to be migrated from present system. Though it may be a fine price judgement to ditch an old Umax Astra SCSI scanner for a new USB one of superior performance and not need the purchase of a Iyonix card. > Castle are in possession of a batch of 32 bit Epson USB TWAIN drivers. > To that extent 32 bit TWAIN exists already. > At a guess even a moderately priced new Epson USB would be far better than my old Umax. -- Malcolm Cowell -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 14:01:36 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039701636:10:14003:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:01:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039701636:10:14003:58; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:00:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013770; 12 Dec 2002 14:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MTqX-0002mi-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:57:49 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCDvJ413852 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:57:19 GMT Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCDvIE13847 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:57:19 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.53.7]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H70ERC02.6KH for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:57:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:55:42 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear all, I think I came across another problem. The new version 2.69 refuses to display or print embedded graphics, at least on my computer (SA RiscPC, 4.02). Reverting to 2.67 solves the problem. Any clues? Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 18:31:36 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039717570:20:19534:80".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:31:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039717570:20:19534:80; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:26:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2018833; 12 Dec 2002 18:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18MU7a-0005vx-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:15:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCEFOh17861 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:15:24 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCEFOL17856 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:15:24 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18MU7X-000Mel-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:15:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:14:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.69 problem References: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I think I came across another problem. >The new version 2.69 refuses to display or print embedded graphics, at >least on my computer (SA RiscPC, 4.02). Not my experience. What you've got obviously won't display Artworks files. The 32 bit AW applet is coming up... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 20:10:39 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039722286:10:11805:69".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:10:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039722286:10:11805:69; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:44:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123081; 12 Dec 2002 19:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MU35-0004zV-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:10:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCEAiZ16784 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:10:44 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCEAhR16778 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:10:43 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18MU31-0002yA-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:10:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:09:33 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >Do Iyonix SCSI cards exist? I believe there will be a PCI card, in addition I'd be surprised if Castle don't update the Storm firmware for their old cards - given these machines have podule slots. I've not looked into this in any detail. Maybe there are issues like DMA not working on the podules (speculation). >present system. Though it may be a fine price judgement to ditch an old >Umax Astra SCSI scanner for a new USB one of superior performance and >not need the purchase of a Iyonix card. Yes probably an Epson (circa 130 quid) will not be much different to a SCSI card, and the new generation are much higher resolution than the scanners of 4 years ago. I don't think a SCSI card is the 'must have' it once was. In the PC world SCSI is declining as things like FireWire come in. Other things work on the IDE bus, or USB. And you've got USB2 which makes it reasonable to use USB for fast devices. So perhaps not the time to buy a 200 quid SCSI card in the expectation that it will be useful in 10 years time. I have no reason to believe new Iyonix cards will be 200 quid, but in the past some Acorn cards seemed to reach that price. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 20:10:42 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039723404:20:15762:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:10:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039723404:20:15762:46; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:03:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2107020; 12 Dec 2002 20:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MZX5-0001Vs-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:02:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCK1Ti13420 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:01:29 GMT Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.174]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCK1Tb13417 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:01:29 GMT Received: from modem-3845.snake.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.127.5] helo=riscpc) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18MZWR-000846-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:01:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:14:54 GMT From: Alan Adams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <01fcd0a34b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10 (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > >> The latest Spark 2.28 upgrade only seems to upgrade to 2.26 ? Is > >> there a problem here ? > >AFAICT it's just the info window template that isn't updated. > > I'll look into it. > > On the same subject, John Ferguson pointed out to me that Panorama 1.15 > is a dud. So there's a 1.16 up there now. > > So many upgrades there were bound to be problems, and I'll be surprised > if there aren't any more once people start running them on 32 bit RISC > OS. > > I've got an Iyonix on my desk now. So I can confirm it does exist. It's > a big achievement. Very fast. Quiet. A few rough edges that will be > polished off soon. I would point out that I didn't pay for this machine. > Anyway this should allow me to finish off the upgrade programme. > > If/when you start on the Twain drivers, I have one you supplied for the Canon IS22. I know, I know, it was supplied FOC and "if it works, great", but there is one small problem. If I forget to reload the original after preview and click scan, the machine freezes - a control-break is needed. I suspect there is no simple fix, but I thought I'd mention it. I am not currently planning to buy an Iyonix - being unemployed reduces your spending options somewhat - so I'm not asking for a 32-bit version. It just occurred to me that you probably use a lot of common code, and if the problem were fixable, it might help with other drivers. Feel free to ignore this if it doesn't fit in with your plans. Alan -- Alan Adams alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 20:20:39 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039724300:10:07377:114".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:20:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039724300:10:07377:114; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:18:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119620; 12 Dec 2002 20:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MZmL-0002nC-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:17:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCKHpw15325 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:17:51 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCKHoZ15318 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:17:50 GMT Received: from [62.188.120.19] (helo=62.188.120.19) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18MZmG-0006ci-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:17:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Spark2.28 upgrade Message-ID: <4ba3c6fe9cbric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba118489fdrandles@march.demon.co.uk> <4ba31a2809sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba349c0d4bric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: [Snip] > The scanning software upgrades have been available for a week > or two. > As to TWAIN. Yes, but... it depends how it goes. .... > So I'll only be doing what is needed. I've yet to meet someone > with an Iyonix SCSI card. I have not yet ordered and may not be ordering at all, but for me an important factor in the decision is going to be the use of one of my SCSI cards in an Iyonix podule slot. This will depend on the SCSI maker: I hope at Castle will upgrade their Storm card's firmware even if Partis do not amend the Power-tec's. I have too much invested in SCSI devices to consider replacing or scrapping them. I know some other people think the same, so I hope (in due course) you will update the SCSI TWAINs. at least. Thanks for the information. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 12 21:30:43 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039728046:10:19703:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:30:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039728046:10:19703:54; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:20:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018996; 12 Dec 2002 21:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MakW-0007z7-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:20:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBCLJTt21702 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:19:29 GMT Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBCLJSc21699 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:19:28 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.52.246]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H70Z8A01.U0U for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:19:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:16:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba3dc1598paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > What you've got obviously won't display Artworks files. > The 32 bit AW applet is coming up... That was me again. Didn't think of that. It was indeed a Artworks file. Stupid me. But the text drag bug still exists. Not only DDF-related as I stated previously. However, this will be cured as soon as I have got my Iyonix, isn't it? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 13 01:40:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039743643:10:10629:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:40:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039743643:10:10629:47; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:40:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119255; 13 Dec 2002 1:40 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Menr-0007FU-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:39:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBD1dG714662 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:39:16 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBD1dFF14659 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:39:15 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18MenL-000JUW-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:39:15 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:37:36 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] A few more upgrades References: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> <4ba3dc1598paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4ba3dc1598paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, A few more 32 bit upgrades have appeared. In particular the ArtWorks and Ovation1 applets the lack of which would probably cramp your style using OP on a 26 bit system. Also Hearsay, Kermit... It occurs to me I'd not bet the ship on any of these upgrades. Something like OP is a massive C program which has gone through a C compiler which has been substantially modified by Castle. Even if the compiler is perfect it may still change things in such a way that bugs become apparent. The ArtWorks applet was always a popular way of costing people money (incorrect separations etc). In addition to being made 32 bit compatible (I've actually seen it render stuff on Iyonix), even on 26 bit systems it makes use of new features which Martin Wuerthner has added to the AW modules. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 13 14:23:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039769781:10:26498:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:23:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039769781:10:26498:57; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:56:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1106418; 13 Dec 2002 8:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Mlc1-0006su-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:56:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBD8rTP11451 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:53:29 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBD8rSq11447 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:53:28 GMT Received: from [213.116.60.107] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18MlZS-0001Nh-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:53:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:47:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro 2.69 problem Message-ID: <4ba3e47d80steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba3dc1598paul@delink.nl> References: <4ba3b3c2c7paul@delink.nl> <4ba3dc1598paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 12 Dec, Paul Sprangers wrote: > But the text drag bug still exists. Not only DDF-related as I stated > previously. However, this will be cured as soon as I have got my Iyonix, > isn't it? Dunno, who can say. I don't have the problem on either machine. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 13 19:33:48 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039807784:20:10699:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:33:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039807784:20:10699:60; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:29:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120189; 13 Dec 2002 19:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18MvUQ-0007K8-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:28:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBDJSIh30054 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:28:18 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBDJSIC30050 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:28:18 GMT Received: from [62.188.131.233] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18MvTp-0005S3-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:28:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:25:29 GMT From: Richard Watkinson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Freshen & CLIB 5.34 Message-ID: <27ca55a44b.Richard@user.argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I downloaded the 2.69 upgrade and 26/32 bit aplets last night. Freshen is asking me for Clib 5.34. I have the Select 2 CD with RISC OS 4.33 (which I'm running from the download rather than the CD). I thought I might find this module on the CD but so far no luck. I hasten to add tht I am using a 26 bit RISC PC but got the impression (sorry about that) that this upgrade was 26/32 bit compatible. Have I missed something? Richard __ __ __ _ __ __ __ _____________________________ |__|| |__|| |/ |_ |_||_ |_ |__| / ...Ceilidh/Barndance music |__||__ | ||__ |\ _|| ||__|__| / for all occasions. ___________________________/ blacksheep@argonet.co.uk A kitten is for life... -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 13 21:53:57 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039816350:20:22722:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:53:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039816350:20:22722:61; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:52:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022507; 13 Dec 2002 21:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Mxj1-00005p-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:52:03 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBDLpam12126 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:51:36 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBDLpZ512122 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:51:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18MxiZ-0000H2-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:51:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:50:34 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Freshen & CLIB 5.34 References: <27ca55a44b.Richard@user.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <27ca55a44b.Richard@user.argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I hasten to add tht I am using a 26 bit RISC PC but got the impression >(sorry about that) that this upgrade was 26/32 bit compatible. You can get the new C lib etc. by downloading www.davidpilling.net/system.zip however read www.davidpilling.net/news.html for some of the background e.g. why we suddenly need a new C lib. For patches that let you add the new C lib to Select see http://www.vigay.com/software -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:13:20 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039964492:20:02346:122".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:13:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039964492:20:02346:122; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:01:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002384; 15 Dec 2002 15:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18NaGZ-0001iv-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:01:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBFF0XU28821 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:00:33 GMT Received: from nt6.griffin.net.uk ([217.79.111.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBFF0XE28818 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:00:33 GMT Received: from RayLeo.aaugonline.net [217.79.97.116] by nt6.griffin.net.uk (SMTPD32-7.13) id A9B010890112; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:03:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Leo To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Thanks to David's efforts in making them available, I've successfully upgraded 25 applications and applets to their new 32 bit versions. Finally, I've come to one which is giving me problems. When I try to upgrade Chess 2.08, Freshen gives the error message "Incorrect patch for file !Runimage". I have tried a fresh download of the upgrade, with the same result. I have also gone back to version 2.06 on my original disc, applied the 2.06/2.08 upgrade OK, then re-tried the 32 bit upgrade again, with the same result. Could someone please enlighten me as to what I might be doing wrong, or confirm that there is a problem with the upgrade. Ray -- Ray Leo RayLeo@aaugonline.net -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:13:28 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039995222:20:07538:111".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:13:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039995222:20:07538:111; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:33:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007841; 15 Dec 2002 23:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18NiFl-0007kv-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBFNWOR19083 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:24 GMT Received: from mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (mta1-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBFNWOE19080 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:24 GMT Received: from localhost ([62.255.12.10]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021215233222.EMDK277.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@localhost>; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:31:33 GMT From: Gerald Cobbe To: ian@lowrys.demon.co.uk Cc: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <91fd73a54b.Gerald@virgin.net> References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> <2e644da54b.Ian@ian.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <2e644da54b.Ian@ian.ntlworld.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id gBFNWOE19081 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <2e644da54b.Ian@ian.ntlworld.com> Ian Lowry wrote: > In message <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> > Ray Leo wrote: > > > Thanks to David's efforts in making them available, I've successfully > > upgraded 25 applications and applets to their new 32 bit versions. > > > > Finally, I've come to one which is giving me problems. > > When I try to upgrade Chess 2.08, Freshen gives the error message > > "Incorrect patch for file !Runimage". I have tried a fresh download of > > the upgrade, with the same result. I have also gone back to version 2.06 > > on my original disc, applied the 2.06/2.08 upgrade OK, then re-tried the > > 32 bit upgrade again, with the same result. > > > > Could someone please enlighten me as to what I might be doing wrong, or > > confirm that there is a problem with the upgrade. > > > > Ray > > > I have the same problem. Had the problem which I reported to David Pilling and he kindly sent me a fix -- Gerald Cobbe -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:13:28 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040025591:20:13809:87".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:13:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040025591:20:13809:87; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:59:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104880; 16 Dec 2002 7:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Nq7i-0005NY-00; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:57:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBG7uT318162 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:56:29 GMT Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBG7uTa18159 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:56:29 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.53.109]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H77CPW00.XNL for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:56:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:53:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I've had no problems at all upgrading to 2.08. But the 32 bit version seems to be a lot slower than the previous one. This can easily be checked with a solve mate problem. I haven't timed it yet, but I'd say that the 2.08 is two or even three times slower than 2.07. As soon as I found a backup of the previous version, I'll do an exact timing. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:13:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039969853:10:16466:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:13:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039969853:10:16466:50; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:30:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111257; 15 Dec 2002 16:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Nbea-0006xX-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:30:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBFGTSh04985 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:29:28 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBFGTRU04982 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:29:27 GMT Received: from lowrys.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.208] helo=Ralph) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Nbdv-0006rS-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:29:27 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:29:57 GMT From: Ian Lowry To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <2e644da54b.Ian@ian.ntlworld.com> References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> X-Organization: Matchstick User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.00eS) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> Ray Leo wrote: > Thanks to David's efforts in making them available, I've successfully > upgraded 25 applications and applets to their new 32 bit versions. > > Finally, I've come to one which is giving me problems. > When I try to upgrade Chess 2.08, Freshen gives the error message > "Incorrect patch for file !Runimage". I have tried a fresh download of > the upgrade, with the same result. I have also gone back to version 2.06 > on my original disc, applied the 2.06/2.08 upgrade OK, then re-tried the > 32 bit upgrade again, with the same result. > > Could someone please enlighten me as to what I might be doing wrong, or > confirm that there is a problem with the upgrade. > > Ray > I have the same problem. Ian -- Every silver lining has a cloud -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:13:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1039970490:10:27578:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:13:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1039970490:10:27578:65; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:41:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101184; 15 Dec 2002 16:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Nboz-0005tQ-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:40:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBFGeoQ06501 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:40:50 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBFGeoR06498 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:40:50 GMT Received: from [62.188.172.125] (helo=62.188.172.125) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Nbot-0000SQ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:40:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Keith Pascall) To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:30:06 +0000 X-Organization: ArgoNet, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.34 for RISC OS 4.02 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-Id: 2452624.163069klp@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sun 15 Dec 2002 (14:55:38 +0000), rayleo@aaugonline.net wrote: > Finally, I've come to one which is giving me problems. > When I try to upgrade Chess 2.08, Freshen gives the error message > "Incorrect patch for file !Runimage". I have tried a fresh download of > the upgrade, with the same result. I have also gone back to version > 2.06 on my original disc, applied the 2.06/2.08 upgrade OK, then > re-tried the 32 bit upgrade again, with the same result. > I have just had the same problem with the chess upgrade and their also seems to be a problem with Star Chart. After the upgrade, when you create a chart, it then freezes the desktop (but not the pointer) Alt+Break will stop the program and return the desktop to normal. Panorama upgrade worked OK. (RISC PC600 + OS 4.02 + Strongarm) Keith -- __ |/ | |__| |\ . |__ . | . klp@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 17:14:19 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040069989:10:13844:249".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:14:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040069989:10:13844:249; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:19:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1014443; 16 Dec 2002 20:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18O1i4-00026l-00; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:19:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBGKIYS02766 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:18:34 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBGKIY102762 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:18:34 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18O1hC-00026R-00 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:18:34 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0180.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.180]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBGKITm19071 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:18:33 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:16:40 GMT From: Ken Paton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Hearsay 2 Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I have been trying to get Hearsay II working again after not having used it for a number of years. I tried installing it from the original disk, and it loads but crashes when any attempt is made to use it. I have downloaded the upgrade pack from Davids website and upgraded to the latest version. However, when I try to run it, it fails with the error message "system.clib not found". The version I am trying to upgrade from is 2.19. Is it possible to upgrade this version? -- Ken Paton -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 21:42:53 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040160820:20:16606:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:42:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040160820:20:16606:91; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128638; 17 Dec 2002 21:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OPKt-0005FU-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHLWTI27881 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:29 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHLWT527878 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:29 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OPKG-0004xX-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:31:10 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Hearsay 2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have been trying to get Hearsay II working again after not having >used it for a number of years. >I tried installing it from the original disk, and it loads but crashes >when any attempt is made to use it. >I have downloaded the upgrade pack from Davids website and upgraded to >the latest version. However, when I try to run it, it fails with the error >message "system.clib not found". Like all the new stuff, it needs the new 32 bit Clib. You can get it from www.davidpilling.net/system.zip -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 21:42:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040160824:20:16919:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:42:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040160824:20:16919:51; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2016385; 17 Dec 2002 21:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OPKw-0005Fe-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHLX7E27963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHLX7P27960 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OPKs-00054a-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:00 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> <2452624.163069klp@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2452624.163069klp@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >be a problem with Star Chart. After the upgrade, when you create a chart, it >then freezes the desktop (but not the pointer) Alt+Break will stop the program >and return the desktop to normal. I suspect this is the same thing which affected the earlier Panorama upgrade. I'll fix it tonight. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 21:42:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040161052:20:22901:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:42:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040161052:20:22901:52; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:37:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022811; 17 Dec 2002 21:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OPOq-0005OO-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:37:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHLb9828539 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:37:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHLb8b28536 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:37:08 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OPOm-0004sk-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:37:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:35:28 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But the 32 bit version seems to be a lot slower than the previous one. Ah you're obviously not running it on an Iyonix. As to the problems. I'm sorry about this, tends to come with the territory of difference patching. It would be interesting to know how you got your 2.08's. Off disc, from patching 2.06 or perhaps direct from me. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 21:52:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040161406:20:01979:71".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:52:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040161406:20:01979:71; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121323; 17 Dec 2002 21:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OPUh-00056h-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHLhBd29238 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHLhAU29235 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:10 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OPUc-00038F-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:41:42 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >When I try to upgrade Chess 2.08, Freshen gives the error message >"Incorrect patch for file !Runimage". I have tried a fresh download of And of course, the explanations we don't mention - a virus, or a disc filing system that is gradually corrupting all your files. 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 22:42:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040164626:20:26523:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:42:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040164626:20:26523:49; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:37:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025562; 17 Dec 2002 22:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OQJq-00015y-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:36:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHMYZW03427 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:34:35 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHMYY903423 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:34:35 GMT Received: from dhcppc1 ([213.106.195.3]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021217223434.RXVC900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@dhcppc1>; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:34:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:33:50 GMT From: Roger Noble To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Cc: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <906076a64b.rgn@rgnoble.ntlworld.com> References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > > As to the problems. I'm sorry about this, tends to come with the > territory of difference patching. > > It would be interesting to know how you got your 2.08's. Off disc, from > patching 2.06 or perhaps direct from me. I have the same problem with my copy of Chess. My 2.08 was obtained by patching 2.06. Roger -- Roger Noble rgnoble@ntlworld.com rgn@jb.man.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 22:52:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040165067:20:08035:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:52:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040165067:20:08035:41; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:44:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006593; 17 Dec 2002 22:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OQQm-0001Sm-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:43:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHMgHX04280 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:42:17 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHMgH404277 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:42:17 GMT Received: from iyonix ([194.106.52.185]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with ESMTP id gBHMgNNd007928 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:42:23 GMT Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:41:59 GMT From: Peter Bell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: family User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.00) POPstar/2.04-32-pre4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >But the 32 bit version seems to be a lot slower than the previous one. > > Ah you're obviously not running it on an Iyonix. > > As to the problems. I'm sorry about this, tends to come with the > territory of difference patching. > > It would be interesting to know how you got your 2.08's. Off disc, from > patching 2.06 or perhaps direct from me. I have 2.06. I upgraded to 2.08 with the patch freshly loaded from the website. This worked fine, and runs on RO4.33. Then applied the 2.08 to 2.09 patch which failed the 'Incorrect patch for file !RunImage' message. It would seem, therefore, that the 2.09 patch is incompatible with the 2.08 patch. -- Peter Bell - peter@bellfamily.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Dec 17 23:22:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040166828:20:22152:145".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:22:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040166828:20:22152:145; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:13:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022417; 17 Dec 2002 23:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OQu4-0004MN-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:13:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHNDSb07868 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:13:28 GMT Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHNDR107865 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:13:27 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.51.161]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H7ADU900.V7L for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:13:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:13:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4ba679fac1paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > It would be interesting to know how you got your 2.08's. Off disc, from > patching 2.06 or perhaps direct from me. I seem to remember that I got it directly from you, because I had missed all previous updates. But I am not entirely sure. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 03:13:03 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040181146:10:19090:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:13:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040181146:10:19090:51; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:12:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1017541; 18 Dec 2002 3:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OUbs-0002W2-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:11:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBI37dY26700 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:07:39 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBI37db26696 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:07:39 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OUYc-000AO9-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:07:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:06:34 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >And of course, the explanations we don't mention - a virus, or a disc >filing system that is gradually corrupting all your files. And the explanation of last resort, that I've made a mistake. OK, I'm sorry, it appears that 2.08 as supplied on disc is very slightly different from 2.08 derived by patching 2.06. Why that should be I don't know. Maybe the moths are eating away my hard disc. Anyway there is now a new Chess208.zip patch. This contains two patches, one for each way of deriving 2.08. Other bugs that have come to light are that the Freshen in the Snapper patch was not 32 bit compatible although the resulting Snapper is. And the problem with StarChart. Both are now updated. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 14:04:08 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040215939:20:16223:109".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:04:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040215939:20:16223:109; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:52:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2105933; 18 Dec 2002 12:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OdfM-0003VM-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:51:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBICod632575 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:50:39 GMT Received: from nt6.griffin.net.uk ([217.79.111.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBICocr32568 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:50:39 GMT Received: from RayLeo.aaugonline.net [217.79.97.140] by nt6.griffin.net.uk (SMTPD32-7.13) id AFB830300DE; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:53:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Leo To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:02:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4ba6c06617RayLeo@aaugonline.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >But the 32 bit version seems to be a lot slower than the previous one. > Ah you're obviously not running it on an Iyonix. > As to the problems. I'm sorry about this, tends to come with the > territory of difference patching. I'm sure we're all very grateful for the work that you're doing. > It would be interesting to know how you got your 2.08's. Off disc, from > patching 2.06 or perhaps direct from me. I bought the original version 2.06 disc from you, and upgraded it to 2.08 using the upgrade from your website. This runs with no problems. It's only the latest 2.09 upgrade that doesn't work for me. With regard to your previous suggestion, I have just checked again, and I can't find any sign of a virus. Ray -- Ray Leo RayLeo@aaugonline.net -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 17:03:57 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040230462:10:01792:96".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:03:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040230462:10:01792:96; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:54:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123475; 18 Dec 2002 16:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Ogpn-0005mz-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:14:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIGDRd08886 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:13:27 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIGDQ608882 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:13:27 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Ogp4-0005Jz-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:13:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:12:22 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba5a1f193paul@delink.nl> <4ba679fac1paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4ba679fac1paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Top chessman Colin Granville replies... Paul Sprangers wrote: > >I've had no problems at all upgrading to 2.08. >But the 32 bit version seems to be a lot slower than the previous one. >This can easily be checked with a solve mate problem. >I haven't timed it yet, but I'd say that the 2.08 is two or even three >times slower than 2.07. >As soon as I found a backup of the previous version, I'll do an exact >timing. > I've tried the mate test on versions from version 2.05 - 2.09 and get virtually identical times for all versions. If you are running 2 versions sumultaneously or other programs which use null events this can slow things down but I can't find any difference between versions. Colin -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 21:44:04 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040247486:20:10430:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:44:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040247486:20:10430:52; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:38:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2113254; 18 Dec 2002 21:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Olsq-00008X-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBILb8K23225 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:08 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBILb8N23222 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:08 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021218213706.UWKO900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing To: Ovation Pro List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist My son uses Opro on my RiscPC for his homework. Today he has written a document, included some jpegs and wants to print it. We print to file then drop that onto !lpr to send to an IP print server. Usually no problem, but today the 2 page document generates a Postscript file 167948 bytes which goes to the printer but nothing is printed and the printer returns to ready. Select 4.33, Opro 2.67 (23-March-02). There was a patch tp 2.67a to fix a problem with jpegs, I thought I had applied it but am now unsure. Has it been included in the 2.67 patch which is on the website? or is it still available separately somewhere? I think this work is due in tomorrow (Thursday) so I'm certainly not going to attempt the 2.69 and applets upgrade just now! Sounds like a good aim for the holiday.:-) Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 21:54:07 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040248251:20:29107:145".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:54:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040248251:20:29107:145; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:50:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2029652; 18 Dec 2002 21:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Om4t-0003J3-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:50:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBILo1j24542 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:50:01 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBILo1U24538 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:50:01 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Om4m-0004r4-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:50:00 +0000 Message-ID: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:48:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Select 4.33, Opro 2.67 (23-March-02). There was a patch tp 2.67a to fix a >problem with jpegs, I thought I had applied it but am now unsure. Has it been >included in the 2.67 patch which is on the website? or is it still available >separately somewhere? No, it is still available separately. http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove 267 and 267a. >I think this work is due in tomorrow (Thursday) so I'm certainly not going to >attempt the 2.69 and applets upgrade just now! Sounds like a good aim for the >holiday.:-) Plan B would be to replace the JPEG's with Sprites. i.e. convert to Sprite outside of OP. One can do clever things like use my scanning program to save the JPEG's as EPS. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 22:34:06 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040250597:10:28462:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040250597:10:28462:64; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:29:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1027570; 18 Dec 2002 22:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OmgI-000746-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:28:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIMSYC28809 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:28:34 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIMSYa28806 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:28:34 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021218222833.RTYY8008.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:28:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:28:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 18 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > >Select 4.33, Opro 2.67 (23-March-02). There was a patch tp 2.67a to fix a > >problem with jpegs, I thought I had applied it but am now unsure. Has it > >been included in the 2.67 patch which is on the website? or is it still > >available separately somewhere? > > No, it is still available separately. > > http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip Thank you - I've saved a copy with my Opro backups this time. > Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove 267 > and 267a. Any chance of a single 26/32 bit archive with 2.69 and all applets you have (saves me having to work out which applets I have actually got installed - pure laziness on my part)? > >I think this work is due in tomorrow (Thursday) so I'm certainly not going > >to attempt the 2.69 and applets upgrade just now! Sounds like a good aim > >for the holiday.:-) > > Plan B would be to replace the JPEG's with Sprites. i.e. convert to > Sprite outside of OP. One can do clever things like use my scanning > program to save the JPEG's as EPS. Thank you for the ideas, I do have your scanning software. Tim has said it is only a draft so the quick option of printing without pictures will do for now and allow us time to sort it out properly. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 22:44:06 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040250897:10:06320:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:44:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040250897:10:06320:47; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006016; 18 Dec 2002 22:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Omlv-0006IZ-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIMYXC29501 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:33 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD900736F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.111]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIMYTR29488 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:30 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18Omlj-0000iO-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:34:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:34:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove > 267 and 267a. You once mentioned that one mustn't mix 26-bit and 26/32-bit neutral applets. Now I recall that not all applets are available in 26/32-bit neutral form. Is it a good idea to remove the 26-bit version then? Or have I misunderstood something? -- Stefan Bellon Ceterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 22:44:07 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040250981:20:09957:69".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:44:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040250981:20:09957:69; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2123073; 18 Dec 2002 22:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OmnR-0006PG-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIMa8X29649 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:08 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIMa7A29644 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:07 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021218223606.SDLQ8008.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 18 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > >Select 4.33, Opro 2.67 (23-March-02). There was a patch tp 2.67a to fix a > >problem with jpegs, I thought I had applied it but am now unsure. Has it > >been included in the 2.67 patch which is on the website? or is it still > >available separately somewhere? > > No, it is still available separately. > > http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip I took another copy from my backup of 2.66, first applied the 2.67 patch then the 2.67a patch. Both were reported as successful but immediately before the success report for 2.67a an error was reported. "Special field not allowed in filing system prefix to OS_CLI" with an OK button. RISC OS 4.33. Probably not a problem worth a lot of looking into as it is superceded by 2.69 Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:04:07 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040252604:20:22219:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040252604:20:22219:55; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:03:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022086; 18 Dec 2002 23:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OnDI-00005z-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:02:52 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIN29C32149 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:02:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIN28932146 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:02:08 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OnCa-0006Mq-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:02:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:00:31 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >You once mentioned that one mustn't mix 26-bit and 26/32-bit neutral >applets YES! OP 2.67 or earlier - only 26 bit applets OP 2.68 or later - only 26/32 bit applets (i.e. not 26 bit only ones) >. Now I recall that not all applets are available in 26/32-bit >neutral form. There's only one which is not available, and that is Impulse. We're awaiting the 32 bit Impulse module being made available. In fact you could use the 26/32 bit Impulse applet with the 26 bit Impulse module on a 26 bit OS. But I guess there are few Impulse users. > Is it a good idea to remove the 26-bit version then? It is compulsory, and OP 2.69 will not run if you have any 26 bit applets installed. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:14:08 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040253192:20:06769:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:14:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040253192:20:06769:51; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:13:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112837; 18 Dec 2002 23:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OnN0-0000PP-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:12:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBINCoY01035 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:12:50 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBINCnt01031 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:12:49 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OnMv-000NRd-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:12:49 +0000 Message-ID: <3My5TTQUCQA+EwH2@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:11:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove >> 267 and 267a. >Is it a good idea to remove the 26-bit version then? Or >have I misunderstood something? > No but I didn't read your question the right way. OK, I'll only remove 2.67 when the Impulse issue is resolved. On the one hand I don't have unlimited web space, on the other some people will come unstuck on using 2.69 on older systems. So 2.67 will probably be there for some time. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:14:09 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040252670:20:24157:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:14:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040252670:20:24157:45; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023969; 18 Dec 2002 23:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OnEX-0000kN-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIN48232459 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:08 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIN48O32455 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:08 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OnEV-0006su-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:04:08 +0000 Message-ID: <8ED7BfPR6PA+Ew32@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:02:41 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Any chance of a single 26/32 bit archive with 2.69 and all applets you have >(saves me having to work out which applets I have actually got installed - >pure laziness on my part)? No, it would have been better to have an installer that looked what applets you had and upgraded them as needed. I just don't have time to produce that at the moment. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:54:12 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040255168:10:22089:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:54:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040255168:10:22089:56; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1125345; 18 Dec 2002 23:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Onsp-0007KD-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBINji204490 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:44 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBINjiN04487 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:44 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Onsm-00057F-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:44 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0763.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.251]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBINjgm32629 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:43 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:44:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba700b2c9mmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3My5TTQUCQA+EwH2@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <3My5TTQUCQA+EwH2@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <3My5TTQUCQA+EwH2@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > >> Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove > >> 267 and 267a. > >Is it a good idea to remove the 26-bit version then? Or > >have I misunderstood something? > > > No but I didn't read your question the right way. > OK, I'll only remove 2.67 when the Impulse issue is resolved. > On the one hand I don't have unlimited web space, on the other some > people will come unstuck on using 2.69 on older systems. So 2.67 will > probably be there for some time. Yes I had to go back to version 2.67 see my other email to the group. as 2.69 will not run. Mick. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:54:12 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040255187:20:25673:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:54:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040255187:20:25673:54; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2124344; 18 Dec 2002 23:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OntF-0001JS-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBINkDW04548 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:13 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD900736F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.111]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBINkCX04543 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:12 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18OntC-0000oz-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:46:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:46:24 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > There's only one which is not available, and that is Impulse. That's taking into account only your applets. I think there are three other not yet 32-bit ready applets: Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software I'm not sure whether there are later, 32-bit versions. But those versions are not 32-bit ready AFAICT. -- Stefan Bellon ... A)bort R)etry G)et a stick and kill it. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Dec 18 23:54:12 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040255173:20:25692:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:54:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040255173:20:25692:56; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:46:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025632; 18 Dec 2002 23:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Onso-0001Ih-00; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBINjhb04485 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:43 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBINjgl04482 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:42 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Onsk-000575-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:42 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0763.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.251]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBINjdm32612 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:45:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Problem with Version 2.69 Message-ID: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Just tried to install version 2.69 over my copy of 2.67 what seem to work ok until I tried loading it and got the following ' Message from Ovation Pro ENOE ' have any one got a clue to what is going on here. Went back to version 2.67. PS. My Computer Kinetic RiscPC, with OS 4.04 and 134 Mb memory, Window manager version 4.16, with Castle DMA32 SCSI Interface, Also Castle USB Card. Mick -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 00:34:10 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040257916:20:01928:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:34:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040257916:20:01928:51; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128969; 19 Dec 2002 0:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OoY1-0004oN-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:28:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ0RlJ08848 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:47 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ0Rd108826 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:40 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gBJ0RkNd021858 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:19:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba703e7dcray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove 267 > and 267a. Please could you fix the problem with text file transfers via scrap (or OLE?) that exists with 2.69. I'm not the only one experiencing it. It seems to be tied in with the way it interacts with the TransDDF loader I think. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 00:34:11 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040257916:20:01920:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:34:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040257916:20:01920:48; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001417; 19 Dec 2002 0:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OoY1-0004oL-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:28:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ0Rev08834 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:40 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ0RdF08828 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:40 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gBJ0RkNe021858 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:27:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:22:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Problem with Version 2.69 Message-ID: <4ba7042b39ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk>, Michael M Martin wrote: > Just tried to install version 2.69 over my copy of 2.67 what seem to > work ok until I tried loading it and got the following ' Message from > Ovation Pro ENOE ' have any one got a clue to what is going on here. > Went back to version 2.67. You've got a 26 bit applet installed. Try removing the OArtworks one - that gave the error for me. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 01:34:13 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040261388:10:14945:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:34:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040261388:10:14945:85; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015217; 19 Dec 2002 1:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OpUx-0003QE-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ1SND12781 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:28:23 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ1SMX12777 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:28:22 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OpU6-000HI1-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:28:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:26:51 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond >NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell >PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software I've sent off the fix for Peter Bond's applet. So I guess Chris will put that up on his site shortly. The others are beyond my control. I think the point is that the other applets won't cause a disaster, and you only need them in 32 bit form if you have a 32 bit machine. The applets that are worrying me are the ones intimately linked into OP. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 01:34:13 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040261407:11:21642:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:34:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040261407:11:21642:40; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:30:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121422; 19 Dec 2002 1:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OpVU-0001Q3-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ1Tgo12857 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:42 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ1Tg612854 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:42 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OpVN-000HO8-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:29:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:28:20 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Problem with Version 2.69 References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Pro ENOE ' have any one got a clue to what is going on here. Went back to You've got to replace any 26 bit applets with 26/32 bit compatible ones. The instructions with the 2.69 upgrade list the small set of such applets, and with the exception of Impulse new versions are available on my web site. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 13:16:31 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040272596:10:18429:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:16:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040272596:10:18429:41; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:36:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1124697; 19 Dec 2002 4:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OsPb-0005Vd-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:35:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ4ZKk24905 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:35:20 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ4ZJ624902 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:35:19 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OsP1-0002ie-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:35:19 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0245.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.245]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBJ4ZIm20344 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:35:18 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Problem with Version 2.69 Message-ID: <4ba71aa85cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Pro ENOE ' have any one got a clue to what is going on here. Went back to > You've got to replace any 26 bit applets with 26/32 bit compatible ones. > The instructions with the 2.69 upgrade list the small set of such > applets, and with the exception of Impulse new versions are available on > my web site. Thank you all I'm now up and running with the new version 2.69, This is all new to me, - still on the learning stage. Mick -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 13:16:35 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040286835:10:09974:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:16:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040286835:10:09974:62; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:33:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1008842; 19 Dec 2002 8:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Ow6f-0008CL-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ8W2d08063 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:02 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ8W2d08058 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:02 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Ow65-0003ic-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:01 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0502.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.49.246]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBJ8W0m02350 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:30:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] DialCost and Ovation Pro. Message-ID: <4ba730dd9bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist As any one notice this problem with DialCost and Opation Pro. V2.69 I have sent away a email to Ian Hartley the Author. I'm starting to get a Problem with DialCost, Since I updated Ovation Pro, here is the error what I get, when I try to log onto the Internet, DialCost will not load after I get the error Internal Error: Abort on data Transfer at &03A82418 Post Mortem requested 3A82410 In Unknown Procedure. 3A82984 In Unknown Procedure. 2321CAC In Unknown Procedure. C710 In Unknown Procedure. 23575B0 In Unknown Procedure. 8E84 In Anonymous Function. I hope this will help you trying to trace this problem, This as all started since updating Ovation Pro from version 2.67a to version 2.69 (04-Dec-02) Best Regards, Mick -- |^^^^ Michael Martin ^^^^^ mmartin@zetnet.co.uk ^^^|Using Kinetic RiscPC| | * http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/fifepits/ *| Email and News by | | ^^^ http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/sign/ ^^^| !Pluto | |======== Member of the Foundation =========|===With RISC OS 4===| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 13:16:35 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040287130:10:17973:100".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:16:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040287130:10:17973:100; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:38:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121897; 19 Dec 2002 8:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OwCQ-0000uF-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:38:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJ8cV708669 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:38:31 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD9007333.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.51]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJ8cVO08666 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:38:31 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18OwCL-0001Dd-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:38:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:38:40 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba731963bsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: [snip] > I think the point is that the other applets won't cause a disaster, > and you only need them in 32 bit form if you have a 32 bit machine. I have. ;-) > The applets that are worrying me are the ones intimately linked into > OP. Alright, thanks for the information. -- Stefan Bellon (((((YOU)))))((((ARE))))((((((FEELING))))))(((((SLEEPY))))) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 13:36:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040304874:20:10723:101".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:36:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040304874:20:10723:101; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:34:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2127216; 19 Dec 2002 13:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18P0oC-0004l2-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:33:52 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJDWo828912 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:32:50 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJDWne28905 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:32:49 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18P0nA-0007NN-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:32:48 +0000 Message-ID: <+kv7JcCiocA+EwEe@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:31:14 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DialCost and Ovation Pro. References: <4ba730dd9bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba730dd9bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > I'm starting to get a Problem with DialCost, Since I updated >Ovation Pro, here is the error what I get, when I try to log onto the >Internet, DialCost will not load after I get the error The obvious line is that OP 2.69 loads the new C library. Could be that loading it actually does the damage - test, does running OP before DialCost resolve the problem? Could be that the code of DialCost is in some way incompatible with the new C library - in theory that shouldn't be the case. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 14:16:08 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040306998:10:15716:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:16:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040306998:10:15716:44; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:09:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013859; 19 Dec 2002 14:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18OyQr-0006ip-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:01:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJB0xv32542 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:00:59 GMT Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJB0wS32537 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:00:58 GMT Received: from modem-3722.wolf.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.142.138] helo=riscpc) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OyQD-0004nS-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:00:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:00:53 GMT From: Alan Adams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Problem with Version 2.69 Message-ID: References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10 (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> you wrote: > Just tried to install version 2.69 over my copy of 2.67 what seem to work > ok until I tried loading it and got the following ' Message from Ovation > Pro ENOE ' have any one got a clue to what is going on here. Went back to > version 2.67. > > PS. My Computer Kinetic RiscPC, with OS 4.04 and 134 Mb memory, Window > manager version 4.16, with Castle DMA32 SCSI Interface, Also Castle USB > Card. > I believe this is because you have a 26-bit applet in your applets directory. -- Alan Adams alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 16:56:16 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040316693:20:08231:93".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040316693:20:08231:93; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:51:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008825; 19 Dec 2002 16:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18P3Vl-0007HI-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:27:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJGQNA30162 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:26:23 GMT Received: from hetnet.nl (net90s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.183]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJGQML30157 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:26:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:37:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:36:25 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18OPKy-0005Fe-00; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBHLX7E27963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHLX7P27960 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18OPKs-00054a-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:00 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4ba544c17fRayLeo@aaugonline.net> <2452624.163069klp@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2452624.163069klp@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-maillist: softwarelist Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >be a problem with Star Chart. After the upgrade, when you create a chart, it >then freezes the desktop (but not the pointer) Alt+Break will stop the program >and return the desktop to normal. I suspect this is the same thing which affected the earlier Panorama upgrade. I'll fix it tonight. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 17:16:16 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040317712:20:00414:170".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:16:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040317712:20:00414:170; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:08:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2113515; 19 Dec 2002 17:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18P3z9-0004qp-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:57:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJGvG103508 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:57:16 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJGvF403505 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:57:15 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18P3z1-0007Ke-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:57:15 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0023.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.23]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBJGvEd13591 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:57:14 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:54:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DialCost and Ovation Pro. Message-ID: <4ba75ef20dmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <+kv7JcCiocA+EwEe@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <4ba730dd9bmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <+kv7JcCiocA+EwEe@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <+kv7JcCiocA+EwEe@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > > I'm starting to get a Problem with DialCost, Since I updated > >Ovation Pro, here is the error what I get, when I try to log onto the > >Internet, DialCost will not load after I get the error > The obvious line is that OP 2.69 loads the new C library. Could be that > loading it actually does the damage - test, does running OP before > DialCost resolve the problem? Could be that the code of DialCost is in > some way incompatible with the new C library - in theory that shouldn't > be the case. Yes that did the trick, I also notice that DialCost is generated by WimpBasic if that has any thing to do with it also. Mick -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 19:16:17 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040325137:20:03963:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:16:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040325137:20:03963:49; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:12:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003342; 19 Dec 2002 19:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18P650-0004Kf-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:11:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJJB6531456 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:11:06 GMT Received: from he103war.uk.vianw.net (he103war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.249.210]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJJB4r31451 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:11:05 GMT Received: from [195.102.200.13] (helo=bulldog.u-net.com) by he103war.uk.vianw.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18P64V-00074r-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:11:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:11:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond > >NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell > >PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software > I've sent off the fix for Peter Bond's applet. So I guess Chris > will put that up on his site shortly. The fixed version is now up on both sites. http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/index.html http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/index.html regards Chris... -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 20:26:19 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040329529:10:07421:109".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:26:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040329529:10:07421:109; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:25:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1124193; 19 Dec 2002 20:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18P7Du-0002o4-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJKO9K07490 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:09 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJKO8T07486 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:09 GMT Received: from centipede ([127.0.0.1] helo=argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18P7DC-0008CZ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:07 +0000 Received: from userat53.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.137.156]) (WebMail authenticated user bb07) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:06 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1065.62.188.137.156.1040329447.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:06 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing From: "David Breakwell" To: In-Reply-To: <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> References: <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: WebMail (version 3.21 ß) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > David Pilling wrote: > >> There's only one which is not available, and that is Impulse. > > That's taking into account only your applets. I think there are three > other not yet 32-bit ready applets: > > Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond > NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell > PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software > New Frame is a normal applet which calls a BASIC program - what do you see when it fails? If I know the issue I might be able to resolve it. !IdxPro should work and provides better indexing functions than Index. David Breakwell -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 19 20:46:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040330381:20:24726:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:46:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040330381:20:24726:51; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:39:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2123311; 19 Dec 2002 20:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18P7RS-00061x-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:38:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJKcgL09292 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:38:42 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD9007333.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.51]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJKce409285 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:38:41 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18P7RE-0002co-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:38:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:38:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba7738437sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <1065.62.188.137.156.1040329447.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> References: <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> <1065.62.188.137.156.1040329447.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Breakwell wrote: > New Frame is a normal applet which calls a BASIC program - what do > you see when it fails? If I know the issue I might be able to resolve > it. !IdxPro should work and provides better indexing functions than > Index. I haven't tried it on my Iyonix yet (mainly because I haven't connected the Iyonix to my switch as I have to re-design my network topology first). But I looked inside all applets and noted down those with things inside which looked 32-bit unready. Inside !NewFrame there's a file "Work" which is untyped and has an load and execution address instead of a time stamp. Therefore I draw the conclusion that this has to be some executable file which -- given the release date of !NewFrame -- cannot be 32-bit ready. If this file "Work" however isn't an executable, then of course I'm wrong and !NewFrame should work. -- Stefan Bellon Please all, and you will please none. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 20 18:44:04 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040409544:10:16009:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:44:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040409544:10:16009:57; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:39:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1128475; 20 Dec 2002 18:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18PS2U-0005Ui-00; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:38:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKIc0Q08354 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:38:00 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKIbxE08348 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:38:00 GMT Received: from centipede ([127.0.0.1] helo=argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18PS22-0008IQ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:37:58 +0000 Received: from usermh41.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.122.126]) (WebMail authenticated user bb07) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:37:58 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1206.62.188.122.126.1040409478.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:37:58 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing From: "David Breakwell" To: In-Reply-To: <4ba7738437sbellon@sbellon.de> References: <4ba7738437sbellon@sbellon.de> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: WebMail (version 3.21 ß) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > David Breakwell wrote: > >> New Frame is a normal applet which calls a BASIC program - what do you >> see when it fails? If I know the issue I might be able to resolve it. >> !IdxPro should work and provides better indexing functions than Index. > > I haven't tried it on my Iyonix yet (mainly because I haven't connected > the Iyonix to my switch as I have to re-design my network topology > first). But I looked inside all applets and noted down those with > things inside which looked 32-bit unready. Inside !NewFrame there's a > file "Work" which is untyped and has an load and execution address > instead of a time stamp. Therefore I draw the conclusion that this has > to be some executable file which -- given the release date of !NewFrame > -- cannot be 32-bit ready. If this file "Work" however isn't an > executable, then of course I'm wrong and !NewFrame should work. > > -- > Stefan Bellon > > Please all, and you will please none. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > > Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net Work is a work file used by the Applet to store the font outline (the output of the BASIC program ) and is not an executable so nothing to worry about. David -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 20 19:04:08 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040411029:10:25354:183".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:04:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040411029:10:25354:183; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:03:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129109; 20 Dec 2002 19:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18PSNK-00076s-00; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKIxs410624 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:54 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKIxsX10620 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:54 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18PSNG-0005Bq-00 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:54 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-1006.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.51.238]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id gBKIxpb18258 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:51 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:36 GMT From: Ken Paton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Hearsay 2 Message-ID: <9a45eea74b.KenPaton@kenpaton.zetnet.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >I have been trying to get Hearsay II working again after not having > >used it for a number of years. > >I tried installing it from the original disk, and it loads but crashes > >when any attempt is made to use it. > >I have downloaded the upgrade pack from Davids website and upgraded to > >the latest version. However, when I try to run it, it fails with the error > >message "system.clib not found". > > Like all the new stuff, it needs the new 32 bit Clib. You can get it > from > > www.davidpilling.net/system.zip > > > Thanks David, Hearsay is now working. -- Ken Paton -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 20 22:34:11 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040423115:10:15729:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:34:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040423115:10:15729:48; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:25:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015670; 20 Dec 2002 22:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18PVZZ-0004Gy-00; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:24:49 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKMOIf31991 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:24:18 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKMOHm31988 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:24:17 GMT Received: from [62.64.224.246] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18PVdk-000Bkj-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:29:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond > > >NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell > > >PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software > > I've sent off the fix for Peter Bond's applet. So I guess Chris > > will put that up on his site shortly. > The fixed version is now up on both sites. > http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/index.html > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/index.html > regards > Chris... Well if it is, I'd like to know just where. Last entry in "What's new" is dated 24 june 2002. In Applets it's still the old version. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 20 22:44:11 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040423840:20:25355:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:44:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040423840:20:25355:51; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:37:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2110805; 20 Dec 2002 22:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18PVlG-0004w5-00; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:36:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKMaiS00676 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:36:44 GMT Received: from roma.localnet (pD9007347.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.71]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKMaeM00668 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:36:41 GMT Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18PVkv-0006gE-00 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:36:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:36:48 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba8022810sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e2 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dave Symes wrote: > In article <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com>, > Chris Johnson wrote: [snip] > > The fixed version is now up on both sites. > > http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/index.html > > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/index.html [snip] > Well if it is, I'd like to know just where. > Last entry in "What's new" is dated 24 june 2002. > In Applets it's still the old version. But inside the applet, the "Sort" binary is updated. -- Stefan Bellon If the answer is Microsoft, the question must have been quite stupid. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 20 23:04:13 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040425087:20:26312:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:04:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040425087:20:26312:54; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:58:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2026397; 20 Dec 2002 22:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18PW5U-0006Rm-00; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKMvgK02089 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:42 GMT Received: from he102war.uk.vianw.net (he102war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.249.209]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKMvgd02085 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:42 GMT Received: from [195.102.205.48] (helo=bulldog.u-net.com) by he102war.uk.vianw.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18PW5M-0000q0-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba8040d21chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com>, > Chris Johnson wrote: > > In article , > > David Pilling wrote: > > > >Index 1.00 by P.D. Bond > > > >NewFrame 1.01 by David Breakwell > > > >PhotoCD 0.01 by Levens Software > > > I've sent off the fix for Peter Bond's applet. So I guess Chris > > > will put that up on his site shortly. > > The fixed version is now up on both sites. > > http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/index.html > > http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/ovationpro/index.html > > regards > > Chris... > Well if it is, I'd like to know just where. > Last entry in "What's new" is dated 24 june 2002. > In Applets it's still the old version. I have just downloaded it - it now contains the sort module fixed by David Pilling. I must confess I haven't had time to update the What's New page, or the Applet page - I just uploaded the fixed file in the archive. Sorry, I should have explained more fully. Chris... -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 21 13:45:13 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040455555:20:00066:78".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:45:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040455555:20:00066:78; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:25:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2106762; 21 Dec 2002 7:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Pe0t-0000gD-00; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:25:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBL7Mqm04156 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:22:52 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBL7MqV04153 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:22:52 GMT Received: from [62.64.227.207] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Pdwy-0006yr-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:21:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:22:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Opro 2.67 not printing Message-ID: <4ba8324fd3dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ba8040d21chris@bulldog.u-net.com> References: <50X6N2LC1OA+EwE+@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4ba6fa4892sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba700db93sbellon@sbellon.de> <4ba76b7b93chris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4ba801148edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ba8040d21chris@bulldog.u-net.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4ba8040d21chris@bulldog.u-net.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: [Snip] > > Well if it is, I'd like to know just where. > > Last entry in "What's new" is dated 24 june 2002. > > In Applets it's still the old version. > I have just downloaded it - it now contains the sort module fixed by > David Pilling. I must confess I haven't had time to update the What's > New page, or the Applet page - I just uploaded the fixed file in the > archive. > Sorry, I should have explained more fully. > Chris... Ah! so that's why it looks like the same old version, it's only a module inside the app that has changed. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 21 13:45:22 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040472745:20:19198:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:45:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040472745:20:19198:61; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:12:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2018860; 21 Dec 2002 12:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18PiTr-0003cf-00; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:11:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBLCB5928040 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:11:05 GMT Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBLCB5p28035 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:11:05 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.51.206]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H7GXUA02.NWI for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:10:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:53:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4ba84b1f80paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear all, I have to take back my words about a much slower response on ChessII 2.09. At last I've tested both versions after a clean boot and this time they show almost identical responses indeed (18 seconds for a solve mate problem on 2.08 and 20 seconds for the same problem on 2.09). Probably the first time I had indeed a program running that uses null events, as Colin Granville suggested. However, I would like to use this opportunity to point at a minor, but nasty little bug in all versions. After having solved a mate problem, the program automatically jumps to a playing level, when dragging a new problem into the ChessII window. Changing back to Mate search and clicking Change does not work. At least, not here on my computer. The only work around that I've found is quitting and reloading. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Dec 23 13:45:10 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040637639:10:23143:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:45:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040637639:10:23143:53; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:00:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1022464; 23 Dec 2002 10:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18QPNO-0002es-00; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:59:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBN9xtF14469 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:59:56 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBN9xtm14465 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:59:55 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021223095954.TGKH14589.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:59:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:59:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: [softwarelist] Opro Applet To: Ovation Pro List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist While upgrading to OPro 2.69 and checking for updated applets I noticed Mines for the first time - it is about 5 years old so is probably on the CD but I'd never noticed it. It appeals to my sense of the rediculous to play a game in a DTP application (as with Fireworkz which also has a mine-hunter game written in its macro language). Goes to show how much can be done with David's scriptiong language. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Dec 23 13:45:18 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040637361:20:13707:133".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:45:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040637361:20:13707:133; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:56:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125926; 23 Dec 2002 9:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18QPIV-0002M2-00; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:54:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBN9sUH13640 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:54:30 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBN9sTe13634 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:54:29 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021223095428.TCAX14589.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:54:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:54:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Opro 2.67 not printing To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 18 Dec, Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Wed 18 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > > >Select 4.33, Opro 2.67 (23-March-02). There was a patch to 2.67a to fix > > >a problem with jpegs, I thought I had applied it but am now unsure. Has > > >it been included in the 2.67 patch which is on the website? or is it > > >still available separately somewhere? > > > > No, it is still available separately. > > > > http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip > > Thank you - I've saved a copy with my Opro backups this time. > > > Since 2.69 seems to have been a success, I think I will soon remove 267 > > and 267a. > > Any chance of a single 26/32 bit archive with 2.69 and all applets you have > (saves me having to work out which applets I have actually got installed - > pure laziness on my part)? > > > >I think this work is due in tomorrow (Thursday) so I'm certainly not > > >going to attempt the 2.69 and applets upgrade just now! Sounds like a > > >good aim for the holiday.:-) > > > > Plan B would be to replace the JPEG's with Sprites. i.e. convert to > > Sprite outside of OP. One can do clever things like use my scanning > > program to save the JPEG's as EPS. > > Thank you for the ideas, I do have your scanning software. Tim has said it > is only a draft so the quick option of printing without pictures will do > for now and allow us time to sort it out properly. Have just upgraded to Opro 2.69 with appropriate Applet and filters upgrades and the document which previously wouldn't print now prints fine. -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 13:45:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040833143:10:24508:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:45:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040833143:10:24508:41; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:19:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119316; 25 Dec 2002 16:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18REEe-00009u-00; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:18:20 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBPGHj924970 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:17:45 GMT Received: from smtp09.wxs.nl (smtp09.wxs.nl [195.121.6.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBPGHiS24967 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:17:44 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.52.227]) by smtp09.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H7ONXE02.C94 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:17:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:17:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade Message-ID: <4baa729ed0paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear Mr. Pilling, I've had the opportunity to test ChessII on a Iyonix. I can't say anything about speed, though, because ChessII is doing very silly things. After leaving the opening book, all kind of illegal moves are done. Is this RISC OS 5.00 or do I have a badly recompiled version of ChessII? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 13:46:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040927597:10:14216:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:46:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040927597:10:14216:70; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:33:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013862; 26 Dec 2002 18:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Rco9-0000Pf-00; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:32:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBQIVHW09946 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:31:17 GMT Received: from chaos.uk.clara.net (chaos.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.185]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBQIVG609943 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:31:16 GMT Received: from du-005-0051.claranet.co.uk ([212.126.134.51] helo=stevegreen.clara.net) by chaos.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Rcmo-000PlG-00; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:31:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven J Green To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:16:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner Message-ID: <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-RBL-Warning: (relays.osirusoft.com) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David I have your TWAIN driver for this device at version 2.01. My SARPC has RISC OS3.7. SCSI card is Powertech SCSI3. In the ReadMe file you state: "If the Canoscan 2700F is reset whilst there is a film in it, it will go into a 'hardware error' state. A reset may be caused by a machine reset or powering the scanner on. So if you get 'scanner is not responding' (having set the correct SCSI id etc.) then remove the film and do a machine reset. In addition I never got this scanner to work on my StrongARM RISC PC, other people have done so. Symptoms here are that F12 then *devices does not show the scanner. In this case talk to your SCSI card vendor." I cannot make the scanner work. F12/*devices correctly shows the scanner to be present. When I go to either 'scan' or 'preview' in your scanning programme I get an error message "Scanner not responding". Resetting the scanner and/or computer has no effect. Tried your programme at versions 1.15 and 1.18 - effect is same. Questions: a. if you never got the scanner to work on your SARPC, did you get it to work on a non-SA RPC or older machine? or am I just reading more than you intended into your phrasing? b. is there a later version of your driver which addresses the problem? best wishes Steve Green -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 13:46:14 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040991264:10:00520:173".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:46:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040991264:10:00520:173; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:14:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000599; 27 Dec 2002 12:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18RtN4-0006P7-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:13:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBRCCWd31270 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:12:32 GMT Received: from chaos.uk.clara.net (chaos.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.185]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBRCCWh31264 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:12:32 GMT Received: from du-028-0016.claranet.co.uk ([195.8.84.16] helo=stevegreen.clara.net) by chaos.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18RtLg-000Abm-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:12:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven J Green To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:12:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner Message-ID: <4bab63cf5astevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 26 Dec, Stephen Parkin wrote: > In on Thu 26 Dec, Steven J Green wrote: - > Have you checked your SCSI chain termination is correct? Is the Twain > driver configured to the correct SCSI ID? Stephen Checked the above. SCSI chain was correct and terminated - but realised I didn't know how to configure the driver to the correct SCSI ID. Got manual out, and found SCSI setting was wrongly configured. (It would have been correct about 3 years ago when I got the film scanner - shows how little I use it!). Reset and all is now well! Thanks very much for your help. Still doesn't explain why the film scanner won't save on the PC side using the Canon drivers, but hey, who cares now... :-))) best wishes Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 13:46:26 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040946885:20:11961:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:46:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040946885:20:11961:45; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:54:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125495; 26 Dec 2002 23:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18RhpM-0002pO-00; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:54:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBQNpkb07260 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:51:46 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBQNpkK07256 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:51:46 GMT Received: from spcap.demon.co.uk ([62.49.28.232] helo=riscpc.local.net) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Rhmz-0003VZ-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:51:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:51:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Parkin Subject: Re: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Thu 26 Dec, Steven J Green wrote: > David > > I have your TWAIN driver for this device at version 2.01. My SARPC has RISC > OS3.7. SCSI card is Powertech SCSI3. > > In the ReadMe file you state: "If the Canoscan 2700F is reset whilst > there is a film in it, it will go into a 'hardware error' state. A reset > may be caused by a machine reset or powering the scanner on. So if you get > 'scanner is not responding' (having set the correct SCSI id etc.) then > remove the film and do a machine reset. > > In addition I never got this scanner to work on my StrongARM RISC PC, > other people have done so. Symptoms here are that F12 then *devices does > not show the scanner. In this case talk to your SCSI card vendor." > > I cannot make the scanner work. F12/*devices correctly shows the scanner to > be present. When I go to either 'scan' or 'preview' in your scanning > programme I get an error message "Scanner not responding". Resetting the > scanner and/or computer has no effect. Tried your programme at versions > 1.15 and 1.18 - effect is same. > > Questions: > > a. if you never got the scanner to work on your SARPC, did you get it to > work on a non-SA RPC or older machine? or am I just reading more than you > intended into your phrasing? > > b. is there a later version of your driver which addresses the problem? > > best wishes > > Steve Green Have you checked your SCSI chain termination is correct? Is the Twain driver configured to the correct SCSI ID? I have a 2700F working here with the same driver on a SA RiscPC and a PowerTec SCSI3 card. I am running RISC OS Select 4.33, but the scanner also used to work correctly with RISC OS 3.7 and the old-style Twain driver. I read the above warning when I first obtained the driver, but have never encountered any problems myself. Stephen -- Stephen Parkin -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 14:05:17 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040997912:10:27801:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:05:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040997912:10:27801:62; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:05:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1114305; 27 Dec 2002 14:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Rv6a-00071o-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:04:52 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBRE3xA19573 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:03:59 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBRE3x219569 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:03:59 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Rv5i-000Kgy-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:03:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:02:20 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >a. if you never got the scanner to work on your SARPC, did you get it to >work on a non-SA RPC or older machine? Yes, I did. I would guess on my ARM 3 based R260. As I dimly recall such was the SCSI trouble, I loaned the scanner to Castle, on their SA RPC's it worked fine. Subsequently a modest number of people bought and used the driver on such systems. Just shows how tricky SCSI can be, because I had about 5 different SCSI cards with which to try the thing. I never had any such problems with the later Canon 2710. >b. is there a later version of your driver which addresses the problem? No, because there is no problem - at least that I can do anything about. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 14:05:18 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1040997660:20:23570:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:05:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1040997660:20:23570:55; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:01:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023278; 27 Dec 2002 14:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Rv2B-0006WM-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:00:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBRDwbR18746 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:58:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBRDwbi18741 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:58:37 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Rv0X-000AGc-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:58:37 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:56:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Chess: 32 bit upgrade References: <4baa729ed0paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4baa729ed0paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >I've had the opportunity to test ChessII on a Iyonix. >I can't say anything about speed, though, because ChessII is doing very >silly things. After leaving the opening book, all kind of illegal moves are >done. Is this RISC OS 5.00 or do I have a badly recompiled version of >ChessII? We'd be interested to hear if anyone else is having this problem. I've not heard of this so far. Colin Granville offered to talk direct to you last week (as per my email) and I'd guess telling him would be your best bet. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 21:55:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041026023:10:03221:82".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:55:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041026023:10:03221:82; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:53:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104232; 27 Dec 2002 21:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18S2Pi-0007yC-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:53:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBRLode22064 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:50:39 GMT Received: from chaos.uk.clara.net (chaos.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.185]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBRLocY22059 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:50:38 GMT Received: from du-005-0011.claranet.co.uk ([212.126.134.11] helo=stevegreen.clara.net) by chaos.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18S2NJ-000I8a-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:50:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven J Green To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner Message-ID: <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-RBL-Warning: (relays.osirusoft.com) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 27 Dec, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > >a. if you never got the scanner to work on your SARPC, did you get it to > >work on a non-SA RPC or older machine? > Yes, I did. I would guess on my ARM 3 based R260. As I dimly recall such > was the SCSI trouble, I loaned the scanner to Castle, on their SA RPC's > it worked fine. Subsequently a modest number of people bought and used > the driver on such systems. > Just shows how tricky SCSI can be, because I had about 5 different SCSI > cards with which to try the thing. > I never had any such problems with the later Canon 2710. > >b. is there a later version of your driver which addresses the problem? > No, because there is no problem - at least that I can do anything about. David thanks for your reply. By now you'll have seen Stephen's comments in another post on this forum, and my reply to him. Basically - should have RTFM..... I assumed that all was still set up correctly from some time ago. In the meantime I'd loaned the scanner to a mate and he'd obviously altered the SCSI ID setting, which is why the thing didn't want to work... I'd forgotten you have to set up the SCSI ID in your scanning software :-( So I now have it working on the SARPC. It's a bit temperamental and (as your ReadMe suggests) prone to locking up - in which case the only thing which works is to reset both RPC and scanner. This could be an actual problem with my scanner, since I still can't make it work properly on the PC side: it won't let me save the final rsult and gives a hardware error code. I'll contact Canon to find out what the latter means. The point of question (b) was to ask, if you had not originally got the scanner to work with an RPC but had been able to with another machine, whether you might subsequently have determined the reason why it wouldn't work with the RPC and been able to fix it with a later software issue. As you say, there turns out not to be a problem (other than incompetence on my part - and you certainly can't do anything about that... :-)) ). best wishes for the New Year Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Dec 27 22:25:36 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041027352:20:15230:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:25:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041027352:20:15230:41; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:15:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101664; 27 Dec 2002 22:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18S2l8-0000Ht-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:15:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBRMDOT25399 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:13:24 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBRMDOf25395 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:13:24 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18S2jM-000Nnt-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:13:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:11:56 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >So I now have it working on the SARPC. It's a bit temperamental and (as >your ReadMe suggests) prone to locking up I don't think I'd characterise it as 'temperamental' on my RPC it wouldn't work, at all, not a sign of life. When SCSI things are temperamental, incorrect termination always comes to mind. Either that or bad connections, wiggling the SCSI podule in the back plane can pay off. The TWAIN drivers do have an auto device setting where they will work out the scanner id - this feature is not enabled in honour of some Morley (where are they now) SCSI cards which hang if one attempts to scan the attached devices. So if you're not going to use one of those cards you could use that setting. Although in real life SCSI id's have to be thought out or else you end up with clashes. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 28 14:05:51 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041082487:20:02472:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:05:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041082487:20:02472:41; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:34:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112148; 28 Dec 2002 13:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18SH5T-0001YZ-00; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:33:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBSDUiY03782 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:30:44 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBSDUhR03776 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:30:43 GMT Received: from [62.188.142.28] (helo=62.188.142.28) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18SH33-0001gS-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:30:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: problem with CanoScan 2700F film scanner Message-ID: <4babddf7d0bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > .... Although in real life SCSI id's have to be thought out or > else you end up with clashes. May a lurker add a warning to David's aside? If you accidentally set the same ID on 2 devices, one of which is a hard disc, you will almost certainly destroy the disc's contents. Disc errors will be reported, but by then the damage has been done. This happened to me - fortunately I had a fairly recent backup. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 28 18:35:46 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041100324:20:02422:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:35:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041100324:20:02422:43; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:32:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002235; 28 Dec 2002 18:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18SLkI-0002KO-00; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBSITIo05617 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:29:18 GMT Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net (mail@dinopsis.arachsys.net [212.74.117.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBSITHU05614 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:29:18 GMT Received: from du-040-0024.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.24] helo=standalone) by dinopsis.arachsys.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18SLcN-0003eo-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:23:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:15:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] O-Pro Toolbox Message-ID: <4bac0366c6richard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03-auth Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Is there a way to regain a missing toolbox? Turning it on/off doesn't make it visible. I can only assume the pane is so far detached from the document that it's nowhere in sight! I'd hate to have to export as DDF and start a new document... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 28 20:05:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041105291:20:10871:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:05:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041105291:20:10871:42; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:54:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010694; 28 Dec 2002 19:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18SN2Q-0005u0-00; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:54:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBSJqC314994 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:52:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBSJqBE14989 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:52:12 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18SN0F-000L3u-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:52:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:50:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] O-Pro Toolbox References: <4bac0366c6richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <4bac0366c6richard@4qd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Is there a way to regain a missing toolbox? >Turning it on/off doesn't make it visible. I can only assume the pane is >so far detached from the document that it's nowhere in sight! This is a long running problem. How it happens I still don't know. It is possible to regain the toolbox, by using the attach/detach feature from view->choices. I suppose if this was a big problem one could work out the locations in a document to poke. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Dec 28 20:26:07 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041106710:20:07231:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:26:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041106710:20:07231:47; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:18:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006523; 28 Dec 2002 20:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18SNOy-0002Pj-00; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:17:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBSKFZP17909 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:15:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBSKFYv17906 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:15:34 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18SNMs-000MR2-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:15:34 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:14:22 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] some random bits References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, It appears that RISC OS 5.01 on Iyonix handles one SWI (Font_ReadFontMetric) 20 or more times slower than previous versions of RISC OS do. The result is that text with a tab leader renders very slowly. A few other text effects will be affected. Something will be done about this... I've tracked down the problem with imports via transloaders which appeared in Ovation Pro 2.69 (drag text into OP etc...). Sorry about that, and 2.70 will appear shortly. Happens with graphics too - try loading a GIF into Edit and dragging the save box to an OP picture frame. The programme of 32 bit upgrades is complete, just about everything is now available from my web site (www.davidpilling.net/news.html). Of course there are some things - SCSI scanner drivers - which won't be available for a long time to come. Talking of scanner drivers, I've seen the Iyonix drive an Epson USB scanner just about as fast as using my PC. So Epson USB scanner drivers for Iyonix are available. However Castle have to update their podule USB card before the same can be said for that. Simtec USB has been OK for a month or two. If you're after a calendar/maker for the new year, see http://davidpilling.net/calendar.html which has versions for both RISC OS and Windows -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From tim@powys.org Sun Dec 29 13:33:15 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041141207:20:07524:6".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:33:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041141207:20:07524:6; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:53:27 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007228; 29 Dec 2002 5:53 GMT Received: from southfrm.demon.co.uk ([158.152.159.240] helo=southfrm) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18SWNm-0002aN-0Z for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:53:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 01:11:28 GMT From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [softwarelist] some random bits Message-ID: <24012fac4b.tim@southfrm.demon.co.uk> References: <4ba7005c4cmmartin@zetnet.co.uk> <4bab014e4bstevegreen@clara.net> <4bab987618stevegreen@clara.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Return-Receipt-To: tim@southfrm.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message you wrote: > Hi, > > It appears that RISC OS 5.01 on Iyonix handles one SWI > (Font_ReadFontMetric) 20 or more times slower than previous versions of > RISC OS do. The result is that text with a tab leader renders very > slowly. A few other text effects will be affected. Something will be > done about this... > > I've tracked down the problem with imports via transloaders which > appeared in Ovation Pro 2.69 (drag text into OP etc...). Sorry about > that, and 2.70 will appear shortly. Happens with graphics too - try > loading a GIF into Edit and dragging the save box to an OP picture > frame. Just another thanks for all the good work. regards, -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org From zed@zed.net.nz Mon Jan 6 17:04:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041473034:20:05654:2".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:04:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041473034:20:05654:2; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 02:03:54 GMT Received: from dragon.actrix.co.nz ([203.96.16.164]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2119857; 2 Jan 2003 2:03 GMT Received: from .actrix.gen.nz (ak-d106.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.106]) by dragon.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id E63C816A35 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:02:52 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:52:52 +0100 From: David Love To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Printing chapters ... Message-ID: <590e84ae4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi! The subject: A newsletter in a format of the same subject headings each issue, with sub headings under the main subject. Present Layout: One masterpage double sided in A5, 2 column format, with page numbers inserted. One continuous chapter. Each subject has a heading within a frame, spread over two columns. Sub headings are typed straight onto the page, wherever appropriate. Autopage insert is checked in Preferences. Images are also dropped onto the appropriate page, where necessary. Problem: Inserting additional text and/or subheadings for the subject often leads to the text flowing onto a page which already contains a frame for the next subject, as OP, quite correctly, sees no need to insert another page when one is already present :-) My attempt to solve the problem: Ah! I thought, why not use chapters and make each subject have its own. This worked perfectly. I even got the page numbers in sequence, I think! But when it came to printing, in pamphlet form, I got blank pages, where the chapters did not have equal number of left and right pages. I have tried choosing 'Start on left', Start on right', 'count preceding blank pages' in various combinations but obviously am doing something wrong! And, yes, I even read the manual :-) Plea for assistance : Please would someone far more knowledgeable than I, let me know what settings I should have in the Masterpage and the Modify Chapter dialogue box to achieve what I want: simply to print pages in sequence, in pamphlet form, regardless whether or not the chapter contains an odd number of pages. Note: The number of pages will always be divisible by four, as the newsletter is printed two A5 on on A4 both sides in landscape orientation. Regards from New Zealand on a blisteringly hot 2nd January 2003. David -- David Love: If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else. From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041541909:20:15532:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041541909:20:15532:57; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:11:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2014598; 2 Jan 2003 21:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18UCc3-0001PS-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:10:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02LAAN12587 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:10:10 GMT Received: from oracle.uk.clara.net (oracle.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02LA9E12582 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:10:09 GMT Received: from du-013-0165.freeuk.com ([212.126.150.165] helo=freeuk.com) by oracle.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 18UCbQ-000C1B-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:10:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:09:45 GMT From: Alex Cessford Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OArtWrks problem - More MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I don't regularly check on the OvPro mailing list. Last night I posted a query regarding this OArtWrks module but having checked the mailing list tonight for possible replies I now see that I have had no fetches from the list since 27th October 2002!!! In spite of fiddling for a fair while, I can't seem to find a way of persuading MessengerPro version 2.60a to do a new fetch, so would any possible kind helpers mind replying direct to this address, please? -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041542489:20:00022:198".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041542489:20:00022:198; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:21:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2105614; 2 Jan 2003 21:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18UCls-0007ZG-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:20:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02LKiH14030 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:20:44 GMT Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02LKht14026 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:20:43 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.53.99]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H83VAD02.A53 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:20:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:20:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Bubble help Message-ID: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear Mr. Pilling, Despite the tremendous list of your Iyonix compatible software, I miss the elegant BubbleHelp program. Is it lost somewhere, or did you cease development? Of all the little gems that I really miss on my brand new Iyonix, this is perhaps the brightest one. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041544856:20:02492:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041544856:20:02492:48; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:00:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002410; 2 Jan 2003 22:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18UDOB-0000On-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:00:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02M0Lb19539 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:00:21 GMT Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02M0Kn19536 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:00:21 GMT Received: from host62-7-11-118.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.7.11.118] helo=anon.anon) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18UDNy-0000ug-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:00:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:58:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Bubble help Message-ID: <4baeb07951paul@vigay.com> In-Reply-To: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> References: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) X-No-Archive: Yes Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4baead0980paul@delink.nl>, Paul Sprangers wrote: > Despite the tremendous list of your Iyonix compatible software, I miss > the elegant BubbleHelp program. Is it lost somewhere, or did you cease > development? Of all the little gems that I really miss on my brand new > Iyonix, this is perhaps the brightest one. If anyone wants to help with the conversion of BubbleHelp, the source code is available to download from my web site at http://www.vigay.com/cgi-bin/r?a=thirdparty -- Paul Vigay __\\|//__ Life, (` o-o ') the Universe http://www.vigay.com -----ooO-(_)-Ooo------ & Everything ------ There must be something worth living for, even some things worth dying for. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:08 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041549024:20:17836:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041549024:20:17836:42; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:10:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2122848; 2 Jan 2003 23:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18UERK-0004xi-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:07:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02N7OE30370 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:07:24 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02N7Ov30366 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:07:24 GMT Received: from iyonix ([194.106.52.185]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h02N7UMv007933 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:07:31 GMT Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:07:24 GMT From: Peter Bell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] TransRTF loader? Message-ID: <4ed3b6ae4b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.01) POPstar/2.04-32-pre4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Ummm, have I missed something, or is there really no 32-bit compatible RTF loader for Ovation?? -- Peter Bell - peter@bellfamily.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041626578:20:20538:117".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041626578:20:20538:117; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:42:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2019955; 3 Jan 2003 20:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18UYdo-0001rE-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:42:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03KfbI20051 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:41:37 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h03Kfab20047 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:41:36 GMT Received: from [62.188.137.37] (helo=62.188.137.37) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18UYdJ-0004lu-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:41:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:39:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Iyonix & Risc PC Message-ID: <4baf2d2735charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist An interesting "stupid" which has occurred. I started work on a document in OvPro on the Iyonix yesterday, saved it and closed down. Today, I added something to it on the RISC PC and now can't open it on the Iyonix. I get the error message "Document has been changed since saved". Is there a way round this - I'm using v2.67 on the Risc Pc and v2.69. Should I have the same versions, or is there a bit more to it? ps I can get round the problem by re-saving as DDL. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:32 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041705161:20:26031:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041705161:20:26031:41; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:32:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2124784; 4 Jan 2003 18:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Ut4t-00039o-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:31:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04ITgw08357 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:29:42 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h04ITgZ08354 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:29:42 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Ut3F-0007Up-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:29:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:25:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Printing Chapters ... Message-ID: <4bafa4b476Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Love wrote: > The subject: A newsletter in a format of the same subject headings each > issue, with sub headings under the main subject. > Present Layout: One masterpage double sided in A5... If you don't have to have a double paged masterpage, it might be possible to avoid the extra blank pages by using only a single-page master. I wonder if it's because the double-page one introduces the left/right concept that you get the extras. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041762674:20:14668:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041762674:20:14668:43; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:31:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101716; 5 Jan 2003 10:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18V83S-00008L-00; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:30:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05AUP803409 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:30:25 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h05AUPE03406 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:30:25 GMT Received: from userkq89.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.105.235] helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18V82x-0004lL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:30:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Printing Chapters ... Message-ID: <4baffc825arayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Love wrote: > Hi! > The subject: A newsletter in a format of the same subject headings > each issue, with sub headings under the main subject. I raised the same problem many months back and DP's explanation led me to solve it as per Jeremy Nicolls reply. But, at the time, I thought DP said that he would shortly be introducing a button/menu item to ripple through a document (to be printed as a pamphlet) so as to reset the chapter starting side to eliminate blank pages. Perhaps I got it wrong - or perhaps only the 'shortly' :-) Happy New Year to all. -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041804418:20:11968:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041804418:20:11968:54; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:06:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2113684; 5 Jan 2003 22:06 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18VIuI-0001kW-00; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:06:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05M5eE01327 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:05:40 GMT Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (smtp.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h05M5d201322 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:05:39 GMT Received: from janvredenburchsmile.ch (abo-be-1-2-dialup-237.spectraweb.ch [194.230.117.237]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id h05M5UY14924 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:05:30 +0100 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:03:47 +0100 (GMT) From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Printing Chapters ... To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: CIC member; Secretariaat St. Van Vredenburch X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sat 04 Jan, David Love wrote: snip some > > I have tried choosing 'Start on left', Start on right', 'count preceding > blank pages' in various combinations but obviously am doing something > wrong! > > And, yes, I even read the manual :-) Great. It does sound that the "Start on Left/Right" are not properly set. Try the following: Select View Options (Ctrl O) and them select "Facing Pages". On screen you can then see where you have blank pages. Anthony Hilton's suggestion of page numbering is useful in this case as well. As it then also shows where the page numbering might be incorrect. JohnvV -- JM van Vredenburch, CH - 6006 Luzern **new email address** email: janvredenburch@smile.ch . -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:05:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041819632:20:00551:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:05:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041819632:20:00551:52; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:20:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2000298; 6 Jan 2003 2:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18VMra-0008Al-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:19:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h062JBg25324 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:19:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h062JAY25321 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:19:10 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18VMr8-000CH5-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:19:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:18:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] kyocera laser duplexer jams? Message-ID: <4bb053deddJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist [Email copy of news posting to comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc] Did someone recently post about a problem they'd had with paper jams in a Kyocera laser printer...? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:06:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041549991:10:10742:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:06:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041549991:10:10742:91; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:26:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1010072; 2 Jan 2003 23:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18UEid-000715-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:25:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02NPbk32572 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:25:37 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02NPb732569 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:25:37 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.176]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030102232534.KLKX900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:25:34 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510102CA94 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 02 Jan 2003 23:05:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:05:17 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Bubble help Message-ID: References: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 2 Jan, in message <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> Paul Sprangers wrote: > >Dear Mr. Pilling, > >Despite the tremendous list of your Iyonix compatible software, I miss the >elegant BubbleHelp program. Is it lost somewhere, or did you cease >development? Of all the little gems that I really miss on my brand new >Iyonix, this is perhaps the brightest one. If you are referring to the program I think you are then http://www.vigay.com/cgi-bin/r?a=bubblehelp might answer your question. Although supplied with OvationPro, BubbleHelp was written by Miles Sabian and can be downloaded (with source) from the URL above. You could either try 32-bitting it yourself, or asking in the newsgroups for someone else to. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:07:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041588143:10:18365:73".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041588143:10:18365:73; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:02:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1105077; 3 Jan 2003 10:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18UOe3-0007CF-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:01:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03A14522234 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:01:04 GMT Received: from dinopsis.arachsys.net (mail@dinopsis.arachsys.net [212.74.117.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h03A13G22229 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:01:03 GMT Received: from du-040-0031.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.31] helo=standalone) by dinopsis.arachsys.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18UOYo-0002NW-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 09:56:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: O-Pro Toolbox Message-ID: <4baef2a7adrichard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4bac0366c6richard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03-auth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h03A13G22231 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Is there a way to regain a missing toolbox? > >Turning it on/off doesn't make it visible. I can only assume the pane is > >so far detached from the document that it's nowhere in sight! > This is a long running problem. How it happens I still don't know. It is > possible to regain the toolbox, by using the attach/detach feature from > view->choices. Yes, that got it back! Assuming it was far detached, I had used a couple of 'virtual desk' programs, hoping to see it. Without luck. When I detached it, it re-appeared bottom right corner of the screen. Attempts to move it were difficult as not much border was grabbable. I use MouseAxess and grabbing one of the buttons via this resulted in the document moving, but NOT the pane! Just possibly this gives a clue? > I suppose if this was a big problem one could work out the locations in > a document to poke. If I had had a location, maybe I would have been able to see what this was set to. That could give clues as to cause? It's the first time it's happened here, so no big deal. Except as an unsolved bug! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:07:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041609323:10:12496:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041609323:10:12496:68; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:55:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1010785; 3 Jan 2003 15:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18UU94-0000dd-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03FrY932733 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:53:34 GMT Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h03FrYg32728 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:53:34 GMT Received: from blueyonder ([62.31.98.160]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:54:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: William McNee To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OArtWrks problem - More Message-ID: <4baf1346c1w-mcnee@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Alex Cessford wrote: > I don't regularly check on the OvPro mailing list. Last night I posted a > query regarding this OArtWrks module but having checked the mailing list > tonight for possible replies I now see that I have had no fetches from > the list since 27th October 2002!!! That's probably because the O-Pro list has been discontinued, and it is now included in this list (softwarelist), which is for discussion of all of David Pilling's software. > In spite of fiddling for a fair while, I can't seem to find a way of > persuading MessengerPro version 2.60a to do a new fetch, so would any > possible kind helpers mind replying direct to this address, please? Well, your posting has now appeared in the correct list, so hopefully you'll see the replies. I don't use M-Pro, so can't help. William -- w-mcnee@argonet.co.uk West Lothian, Scotland 162MB SARPC 20GBHD RISC OS 4.33 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:07:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041700133:10:03588:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041700133:10:03588:75; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:08:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1106357; 4 Jan 2003 17:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Urmb-0004yV-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:08:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04H7ri18332 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:07:53 GMT Received: from tiger.actrix.co.nz (tiger.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.160]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h04H7pq18323 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:07:52 GMT Received: from .actrix.gen.nz (ak-d225.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.225]) by tiger.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ECD06FF6 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:07:46 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:46:35 +1400 From: David Love To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Printing Chapters ... Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi! The subject: A newsletter in a format of the same subject headings each issue, with sub headings under the main subject. Present Layout: One masterpage double sided in A5, 2 column format, with page numbers inserted. One continuous chapter. Each subject has a heading within a frame, spread over two columns. Sub headings are typed straight onto the page, wherever appropriate. Autopage insert is checked in Preferences. Images are also dropped onto the appropriate page, where necessary. Problem: Inserting additional text and/or subheadings for the subject often leads to the text flowing onto a page which already contains a frame for the next subject, as OP, quite correctly, sees no need to insert another page when one is already present :-) My attempt to solve the problem: Ah! I thought, why not use chapters and make each subject have its own. This worked perfectly. I even got the page numbers in sequence, I think! But when it came to printing, in pamphlet form, I got blank pages, where the chapters did not have equal number of left and right pages. I have tried choosing 'Start on left', Start on right', 'count preceding blank pages' in various combinations but obviously am doing something wrong! And, yes, I even read the manual :-) Plea for assistance : Please would someone far more knowledgeable than I, let me know what settings I should have in the Masterpage and the Modify Chapter dialogue box to achieve what I want: simply to print pages in sequence, in pamphlet form, regardless whether or not the chapter contains an odd number of pages. Note: The number of pages will always be divisible by four, as the newsletter is printed two A5 on on A4 both sides in landscape orientation. Regards from New Zealand on a blisteringly hot 4th January 2003. David -- David Love: Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. No is the answer! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:07:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041702189:10:16756:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041702189:10:16756:51; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:43:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1016070; 4 Jan 2003 17:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18UsJS-0006Xa-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:42:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04HgDn23112 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:42:13 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h04HgDn23108 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:42:13 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030104174212.RAKS14589.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:42:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:42:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Printing Chapters ... To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 04 Jan, David Love wrote: > Hi! > > > The subject: A newsletter in a format of the same subject headings each > issue, with sub headings under the main subject. > > Present Layout: One masterpage double sided in A5, 2 column format, with > page numbers inserted. One continuous chapter. Each subject has a > heading within a frame, spread over two columns. Sub headings are > typed straight onto the page, wherever appropriate. Autopage insert is > checked in Preferences. Images are also dropped onto the appropriate > page, where necessary. > > Problem: Inserting additional text and/or subheadings for the subject > often leads to the text flowing onto a page which already contains a > frame for the next subject, as OP, quite correctly, sees no need to > insert another page when one is already present :-) > > My attempt to solve the problem: Ah! I thought, why not use chapters > and make each subject have its own. This worked perfectly. I even got > the page numbers in sequence, I think! But when it came to printing, > in pamphlet form, I got blank pages, where the chapters did not have > equal number of left and right pages. > > I have tried choosing 'Start on left', Start on right', 'count preceding > blank pages' in various combinations but obviously am doing something > wrong! > > And, yes, I even read the manual :-) > > Plea for assistance left>: > > Please would someone far more knowledgeable than I, let me know what > settings I should have in the Masterpage and the Modify Chapter dialogue > box to achieve what I want: simply to print pages in sequence, in > pamphlet form, regardless whether or not the chapter contains an odd > number of pages. Note: The number of pages will always be divisible by > four, as the newsletter is printed two A5 on on A4 both sides > in landscape orientation. This is a task for when all editing is done - just before printing really. It helps if you have a frame (header or footer?) with the page number included on all master pages as this displays the overall document page number not the chapter.page-in-chapter which you get in the Info pallette. If you don't want the page numbers printed set them in a colour and set the colour to non-printing. You need to set the first chapter as you want (probably start on right). Then go through the document chapter by chapter and modify where necessary. If the first page of a chapter is even in the overall document count the chapter needs to start on the left, if odd it starts on the right. The "Count blank pages" option relates to numbering and might give you a clue when a blank is going to be insterted at print time. If the page number jumps at the start of a chapter you know you need to change that chapter to start on the other side. Hope this helps. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 17:07:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041715705:10:11328:114".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041715705:10:11328:114; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:28:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109136; 4 Jan 2003 21:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Uvpt-0007a1-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:28:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04LReS00906 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:27:40 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h04LReK00902 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:27:40 GMT Received: from [62.64.221.205] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Uvo2-000J7w-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:26:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing Chapters ... Message-ID: <4bafad53c9dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Love wrote: > Regards from New Zealand on a blisteringly hot 4th January 2003. Lucky 'Ol you, some parts of the UK are under flood water, here in Bournemouth on the south coast... We has snow today (Saturday). Dave -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 18:33:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041877707:20:08056:279".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:33:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041877707:20:08056:279; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:28:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010130; 6 Jan 2003 18:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18VbyI-0004lf-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:27:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06IR9O07212 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:27:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06IR9r07209 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:27:09 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Vbxs-0000UM-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:27:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:25:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix & Risc PC References: <4baf2d2735charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4baf2d2735charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >An interesting "stupid" which has occurred. I started work on a document >in OvPro on the Iyonix yesterday, saved it and closed down. Today, I >added something to it on the RISC PC and now can't open it on the Iyonix. >I get the error message "Document has been changed since saved". >Is there a way round this - I'm using v2.67 on the Risc Pc and v2.69. >Should I have the same versions, or is there a bit more to it? Interesting. 2.69 adds a checksum to documents. The idea being to spot if documents are changed by dodgy disc systems. I presume the loophole above is that older versions preserve that checksum but OP 2.69 doesn't check which version produced the checksum. Anyway the workaround is to use Ovation Pro choices, General, untick 'check on load'. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 18:33:49 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041877759:10:04734:182".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:33:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041877759:10:04734:182; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:29:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004774; 6 Jan 2003 18:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18VbzE-0004z2-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:28:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06ISV807453 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06ISUe07449 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:30 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18VbzC-00045b-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:28:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:27:22 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] TransRTF loader? References: <4ed3b6ae4b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> In-Reply-To: <4ed3b6ae4b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Ummm, have I missed something, or is there really no 32-bit >compatible RTF loader for Ovation?? Oh.... This was written by Rob Clark (for Beebug), who appears to have then vanished. I'm faced with having to convert the program with no C source code. I have started, but not finished. Got any tips? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 18:33:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041877865:10:08313:138".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:33:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041877865:10:08313:138; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:31:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1008129; 6 Jan 2003 18:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Vc19-0005LS-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:30:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06IUTk07850 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:30:29 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06IUTR07847 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:30:29 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Vc17-0004Tp-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:30:29 +0000 Message-ID: <+1or9RGnrcG+EwVm@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:55 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Bubble help References: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >>Despite the tremendous list of your Iyonix compatible software, I miss the >>elegant BubbleHelp program. Is it lost somewhere, or did you cease >>development? Of all the little gems that I really miss on my brand new >>Iyonix, this is perhaps the brightest one. Little to add... It was written by Miles Sabin, Paul Vigay's web site is its current home. We've got the source code. If no one else does the port, I expect I will in time. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 20:13:47 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041883074:20:10042:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:13:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041883074:20:10042:47; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:57:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118425; 6 Jan 2003 19:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18VdND-0002bT-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:57:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06Jucs23957 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:56:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06JubW23953 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:56:37 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18VdMT-000FC6-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:56:37 +0000 Message-ID: <3X3JFqLZ8dG+Ewml@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:55:05 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] !OArtWorks problem References: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> <+1or9RGnrcG+EwVm@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <+1or9RGnrcG+EwVm@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Alex Cessford Having eventually got round to using OP version 2.67 today, I have hit a small problem. On loading, I get the RO4 cube error message saying: File name 'RMStore.ImageExtnd' not recognised. Clicking the C a n c e l button gets OP to load anyway, but then a Throwback window, (presumably the result of my use of StrongEd?), appears which gives the following details: Errors in !OvnPro.Applets.!OArtWrks.Library.Quality 19 S Unknown identifier awsetwysiwyg What do I need to do to stop this, please? -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Jan 6 21:23:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041888016:10:13602:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:23:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041888016:10:13602:51; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:20:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1102893; 6 Jan 2003 21:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Vef7-0000DR-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:19:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06LJQI06972 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:19:26 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06LJPG06967 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:19:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Veeb-0002nM-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: <80B7tfMDKfG+EwEe@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:17:55 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !OArtWorks problem References: <4baead0980paul@delink.nl> <+1or9RGnrcG+EwVm@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3X3JFqLZ8dG+Ewml@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3X3JFqLZ8dG+Ewml@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >On loading, I get the RO4 cube error message saying: File name >'RMStore.ImageExtnd' not recognised. Clicking the C a n c e l button >gets OP to load anyway, but then a Throwback window, (presumably the >result of my use of StrongEd?), appears which gives the following details: > Errors in !OvnPro.Applets.!OArtWrks.Library.Quality > 19 S Unknown identifier awsetwysiwyg > > What do I need to do to stop this, please? Either make sure that the ArtWorks viewer is visible, or the Artworks modules are installed inside !Boot. Or (more likely) you're not a fan of ArtWorks files, so just delete the OArtWorks applet from inside Ovation Pro. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 7 14:21:47 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1041948460:20:23876:86".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:21:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1041948460:20:23876:86; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:07:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2024435; 7 Jan 2003 14:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18VuNQ-00067x-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:06:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07E6AS21236 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:06:10 GMT Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.68.35]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h07E68c21223 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:06:08 GMT Received: from uff411.ucs.de (212-62-86-136.teleos-web.de [212.62.86.136]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D79E203CD5 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:05:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from kaskaskia.ucs.de ([192.168.202.184]) by uff411.ucs.de; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:06:48 +0100 Received: from martinv by kaskaskia.ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 1.53beta2) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 07 Jan 2003 15:05:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:05:48 +0100 From: Martin Vethake To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] kyocera laser duplexer jams? Message-ID: <916b18b14b.martinv@kaskaskia.ucs.de> References: <4bb053deddJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb053deddJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60 (RemoteNB/1.53beta2) (RISC-OS/3.70) X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bb053deddJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > [Email copy of news posting to comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc] > > Did someone recently post about a problem they'd had with paper jams in a > Kyocera laser printer...? > I haven't posted anything about this, but it is a well known problem with Kyoceras. These printers are very picky about paper humidity and use of the duplexer seems to aggravate the problem. Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net